2K already? I begin to worry that it will be done too quickly

In your previous thread there are a lot of articles about features of uNL and "how-to-beat-it"-advices... It would be nice if you do the same in this thread too Even if just a little

Verneer: how are you finding the games at 25NL Rush compared to 10NL Rush?

I only have ~500 hands at 25NL because I'm not rolled for it, but it seemed softer when I tried it out in December. Are you finding it softer as well?

Yeah - I've been going back and forth on this. The thing is - the bonus gets taking out of my MGR which lowers my rakeback. Thus, I have to account for it somehow.

Maybe I'll just go with w/e HEM says 27% of rake on top of my winnings is.

Did you check on Monday's free video on CardRunners on note-taking?

Verneer that red line is immense.Are you finding it easier to rise it as you move up levels? I find mine is constantly below 0 but lately i have been able to keep it going straight .Its tough to see it move up wards which seems quite normal playing at 5nl/10nl due to the fact that im trying less bluffs etc.worse players and just folding situations where its marginal(stick ~ 15 bb then fold )

I have played 6-max rush from 10NL to 50NL now. No the games are not softer at NL25, and only a donk stuck at 10NL, would try to give themselves some false hope by claiming that the games above the level he plays, are softer.

Maybe, just maybe, 500 hands isn't a great sample to judge to quality of the games...

No need to be rude - I was just wondering if my admittedly small sample was accurate, or not. I figured it wasn't.

don't ) thank you for url. already watchin' =)

verneer, afaik, eoty bonus doesnt affect mgr. any bonuses purchased with medals or points do but the eoty bonus doesnt. i just finished my $100 eoty bonus and no mgr hit.

btw, watched the notetaking vid last nite, awesome vid. cant wait til feb so i can watch your 1st vid this year with my free cr subscription thx to tfpt

Same here

Seems like there are a bit of discussion between NL10 vs NL25. Fact is that rake is doubled at NL10 which is extreeeeeemely high. It's around 10BB/100 in rake! At NL25 rake is equal to around 5BB/100.
This will be misleading for some players not ware of this.
Let's say you are a winner by 4BB/100 (a good winrate) at NL25.
You now, for some reason, start playing NL10 assuming you will beat it for 6BB/100.
But since rake is 5BB/100 higher than NL25, you will end up with a 1BB/100 winrate at NL10 even though you crush NL25!

EDIT: I'm talking about Fullt tilt here btw.

so players stuck at nl10 should move ip to nl25 where they respect your raises and also your wr will improve due to less rake? ;b lol in all seriousness tho, cant wait for the move

Well, if you don't have a bankroll, you don't have a bankroll. But you will be giving at minimum 2/3 of your winnings away in rake. That's the information I wanted to give you.

yea, i understand. i was jus makin a joke with what i could. didnt realise that tho about the rake. thx for the info

Imo this would be the best way to do it since it is a moving through the micros challenge not boosting my roll with 50% through eoty bonus. Well nearly 50%..

edit: and i want it to last longer

wow your bad for even considering to lay down AA on AKK flop at any point in the hand..

thanks for your valuable input...

January 19th Update:

Booked my 9th positive day in a row @ 25NL while picking up around 6 BI's. Moving right along:



Some fun stats:

* Played in 18/19 days of the month so far.
* 85,754 hands = 4764 hands/day.
* 80.24 hours played = 1,068 hands/hr and 4.45 hr/day.
* 45.80 hours played @ 10NL at $4.78/hr before rakeback.
* 34.44 hours played @ 25NL at $23.03/hr before rakeback.
* $911.92 rake paid.

ur a beast verneer. One thing though, is that the EOY IM bonus does not touch your MGR.

Easy game:

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BTN): $36.75
SB: $18.86
BB: $5.27
UTG: $54.01
UTG+1: $9.94
UTG+2: $58.79
MP1: $12.41
MP2: $16.34
CO: $18.71

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J J
3 folds, MP1 raises to $12.41 all in, 2 folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $12.41, 2 folds

Flop: ($25.17) 2 T 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($25.17) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($25.17) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG+2: $26.74
MP1: $10.59
MP2: $38.78
CO: $13.48
Hero (BTN): $26.30
SB: $42.31
BB: $26.75
UTG: $32.21
UTG+1: $31.46

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A K
4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.85

Flop: ($5.55) 3 6 A (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $3, MP2 calls $3

Turn: ($11.55) J (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.55) 4 (2 players)
MP2 bets $9, Hero calls $9


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (UTG+1): $58.27
UTG+2: $6.74

MP1: $38.93
MP2: $32.84
CO: $11.56
BTN: $20.23
SB: $13.63
BB: $40.36
UTG: $14.61

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with J J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) T 9 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.35) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.35, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $4.35

River: ($13.05) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $13.88 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $13.88


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $28.63
BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $34.20
BB: $10.00
UTG: $16.38
UTG+1: $35.52
UTG+2: $56.21
MP1: $24.36
MP2: $8.43

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.75, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $12.50, 2 folds


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (MP1): $27.01
MP2: $32.07
CO: $25.10
BTN: $25.00
SB: $10.10
BB: $25.00
UTG: $14.72
UTG+1: $29.16
UTG+2: $29.34

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP1 with A K
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.60, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1.85

Flop: ($8.15) 3 A 5 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $4, BTN raises to $8.75, UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $24.41 all in, BTN folds


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP1: $10.20
MP2: $48.15
CO: $29.08
BTN: $19.47
SB: $57.11
BB: $33.57
UTG: $18.05
Hero (UTG+1): $32.54
UTG+2: $8.18

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 3 folds, CO calls $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.40) 5 Q 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($3.40) 3 (4 players)
SB bets $2.50, BB folds, Hero calls $2.50, CO folds

River: ($8.40) T (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

I've made the decision to not include it in this challenge.

$450 --> Wire --> ATM --> You know the rest.

I'll spend a little time tomorrow morning answering some question about anything you guys are interested in. So ... fire away if you've got any.

Verneer, you folded KK PF...

1st hand, why did you check turn? Is it for pot control(vs AJ or sets?) or for value(so that he will bet later streets).

2nd hand, what was your reason for x/c the turn and the river allin.
Turn, I guess you didn't want to be bluffed of your hand since you have good equity (Jh, gutshot, and Mpair)?
Im guessing by the river you just polarized his range to flush or air?