What's the rakeback like for 10nl FR rush?

Yeah, I think long term at FR I play like 17/14 and am usually one of the loosest regs at the tables.

Although FWIW, vinivici9586 crushed 100NL FR playing 11/9, so it's not like you can't make money just waiting for hands.

During December, I played ~550-600 hands of 10NL Rush per day to hit ironman silver. I made around $11-12 rakeback per week during that time.

Sup verneer. GL with this challenge. I learned alot from your previous thread and refer back to it often. Couple questions. Do you plan on playing RUSH the whole challenge? How much volume do you average on a regular day?

Verneer - what is a good solid bb/100 from co,btn and sb/bb (least negative) in nl25 and nl50 6max?

my co is 9 bb/100
btn 16 bb/100
sb -24 bb/100
bb - 44 bb/100

major leak??

Could be worse. Here is my Rush stats by position (5NL/10NL):



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Obviously I should only play the Button!

good luck verneer, will be following this with interest, props that it's for charity

Good luck, will follow this

Out of curiosity whats your showdown and non showdown winnings like?

Win @ SD, lose at non-SD.

Except for today where I got crushed at both.

How many hands you get in today? Anytime i checked you were at the tables

gl, your other thread was great but i didnt fully read it at the time, look forward to this.
I'm doing similar in mtts fwiw

Day 2 Summary:

Over 7,300 hands, down around 4 BI's. Not sure what to say other than it was brutal - there was a point where I just could hit a hand and whatever they needed, they got. I'm also tweaking my game and there are still way too many people on whom I have hardly any info. This will come (along with notes)

Monthly update:



Can't be all smooth sailing, even though I would have liked it

The main area where I seem to be getting destroyed is the SB. Seems very atypical, but I'll run some filters, make some adjustments, and go from there.

Wow.... I see you have a nasty 8 buyin downswing over 3000 hands or so. Is this quite common at these stakes? Also, do u spend much time table selecting at uNL in general?

Keep up the good work!

in. love your videos

I'd really like to hear what type of info you look for when developing reads. For example, what are the most obvious signs of exploitable play in your opponents? When you see an opponent showdown a bad or good hand, what is the general process you go through to decide what to take notes on?

Obviously some reads will be easier to spot; some more complex; some more profitable than others. It's the process I find myself faltering on and I'd like to systemize it. Preferably in a way that's reliable, like from someone with your credentials.

Good luck.

The 2010 thread was/is awesome, glad to see a new verneer moving up in 2011 thread!
Are you going to be playing exclusively FR and rush for this challenge?

awesome stuff, thanks verneer for doing this.

also, 12k hands in two days i played 15k in whole december

it's all about the volume, isn't it ? i need to learn to 10+ table although u did it 4 tabling but i dont like rush, also i play on ipoker now.

Basically, what needs to happen in a session for you to quit?

Losing 2 buy ins. Either by bleeding out or bad calls.

Getting sucked out in a big pot?

I take a break of 30 mins.

Seeing someone bluff you?

No, I learn from that. Study their bet sizing and how they bluffed.
Figure out why they bluffed, was it deception for defense or was it some kind of tilt?
Related to their bankroll or a previous hand?


After you quit, how long do you need to stay away from the tables before you can sit down and play again?

4 hours.

In your follow-up session, what needs to happen for you to quit again?

Simply losing a big pot or 1 buy in. Quit for the day.


Secondly, let's say you open pocket aces and see a flop. Do you have an exit strategy for the specific hand?
Under what conditions will you fold your hand?


If flop contains K,Q,J or flush draw and villain 4bets then I fold if calling doesn't meet a profitable stack ratio.

I usually ride over a mid or low straight draw if the villain is out of position and of decent tight competence.


What would be considered a great flop set for you?

AA7

lol

Nah, any flop with mid non connectors is standard relief.
Great flops would be a single royal card with low companions. Might encourage villain to bet into us with KK or QQ pair.

God tier is another ace with a flop pair to make us hit a full house.
Villain with underneath poket pair would probably shove their stack with trips if they're not very good at laying down made hands.

A poor flop setup?

Hmmmm,
10, J, K of of a suit we don't have.
both flush and straight draws for any tight villain who may wield hold AQ, AK or AJ and have one card of the drawing suit.

Given the flop, what is the best possible turn card?

4 offsuit

The worst possible turn card?
9 of the drawing suit.

So what range of hands will they have preflop to continue given my 3-bet?

AK
AQ
PP's from 77 up
AJ

How will those hands play the flop (there is a fair bit of guessing involved - who will you be able to narrow down more accurately?).

QQ would bet for value.
AK would make a smaller bet for strength if the player is decent.
If AK is a bit weak, he would would check/call.
If AK is better than the weak player but not crushing it, he would fold out.

AQ would bet.
77 would bet

Narrow down tiem.
UTG1 Checks, I could place him as any 88+ pocket pair which didn't hit or AK/AJ

Bu calls raise, I would have him at AQ or A7 (but not at low limit and full ring tbh)

UTG1 then calls the raise meaning he likely doesn't have air.
He would have a pocket pair below Q. Probably JJ


Given the preflop and flop action, How many turn cards are bad for you? What's the worst possible card that can come?

Hearts.
Aces, Charles.
Then a jack


Why is that?
AQ would go two pair and dominate.
Hearts would have a much lower but feasible chance of pulling a draw.

Jacks aren't in general dangerous here but JJ in this specific hand..

Which ones are great?
Kings!

Low numbers clubs, spades or diamonds.

What, if anything, will make you fold your hand on the turn?


J, 9 or 10 lands and UTG1 pushes.

Will do

That looks almost exactly like my 10NL Rush graph for December. Except at the end, it continues to trail downward... continuing downward into this month so far

I was looking through my HEM stats this weekend, and I admit I'm not sure what I'm looking at. I have no idea where to start to turn my graph around except I know I'm playing way too many hands.

Would it be too much to ask for you to post what adjustments you make based on what you see in your stats? I'm sure I'm not the only one who could learn something from the thought process you go through

I'll do a 20K hand review when I get there. @ 14K right now.

Awesome! I saw you at the tables today (I think I know your sn), but I don't think we actually tangled in a hand. I only had about 10 hands data on you

we tangled in a hand yesterday verneer you donk :P

Did you have Kc3c?

his sn is the-xc. verneer why are we playing rush and not 16 table fr?