From a purely economic sense, if Broken gains more utility from coaching than playing (hypothetically speaking ofc) it makes complete sense for him to coach rather than play, ceteris paribus.

It seems pretty futile to argue Broken would/would not be winning on stars when there’s no chance of him being able to play there.

Yeah. I just think it's funny people saying definitively that he'd get crushed lol.

500z is way overrated, I'm sure Broken could do ok hunting the whales like the majority of the mediocre regs there. The % of legit elite players would be surprisingly smaller than most think. Just watch Innerspy streams to see the lol awful plays from the pool. Apparently even Xenoblade wins there.

Agree with this. Good to see someone who thinks like an economist.

lol 100$ is a steal for someone with his winrate at 200/500z

also comparing hourly vs coaching rate is ******ed for multiple obvious reasons

+1 500z overrated, 50z where the real crushers play

^lmao. Mirage berating xenoblade for his attitude, not realising that he’s the 2nl equivalent

Idk why there are so many people talking about 500z, broken cant play there and even if he had the option he wouldnt play, he makes way more with his sick reads vs those whales at ignition.

Also people are overestimating so much the top regs of 500z. They are people too, if your game is ok and your ranges are on check, if you dont try to make explo plays vs them you will do fine. Theonly ones that should be afraid of getting owned are regfish that telegraph the strength of their hands with their sizings/do stupid ****. And brokenstars doesnt play like that.

Im brokenstars' student and played some hands vs some top 500z regs at 200z and so far I didnt get owned in the hands Ive played vs them. Brokenstars is way better than I am, so Im really sure those guys wouldnt do anything they want vs him and abuse him.

I dont have a huge sample though, also their skill advantage should be more effective after they get more reads. But at least in the first 50-100k hands he would be protected by being an unknown to them.

wtf are you talking about, you have no positive results at 200z , how are you not getting owned by the 500z regs if you can't beat the silly 200z ones

no 500z top reg in his perfect mind would make such statement

this is also complete nonsense , since when running hot everyone tends to play a game above their average winrate, and when running bad the opposite , so these numbers are gonna inflate a lot in reality and that's why you see big winners running the lowest percentiles more often than they should

Theres different skills involved in playing each type of player, if brokenstars is playing a reasonable strategy without overfolds, underbluffs and overbluffs, playing his range in a way to protect himself from the tougher players, then he will limit the amount of bbs he can lose to a better player. If he manages to exploit the rest of the pool doing that, cool.

And as I said, sample is small, I could have been dealt only std spots so far that even a weak reg wouldnt be able to play poorly.

+$2k last night

I don't disagree. I stated previously that the model does not take into account everything and many variables are not quantifiable.

Don't get all the brokenstars hate. He's prob running well overall on the year, who cares. He's clearly a good player and I'm sure he's had plenty of gross downers just like everyone else. $100/hr seems like a very reasonable rate for his coaching, especially considering the students have said he's essentially giving them more than an hour of his time.

This. People don't realise that 1 hour of coaching is more than 1 hours work for any good coach.

not gonna lie I usually can't stand coaches but Brokenstars has really won me over he is clearly a good player and a good guy

You are welcome Mason. In 4 years your thread hasnt been this entertaining.

Free marketing for me imo

People see one night's worth of hands where people bluff catch with top pair for 2x pot and assume he's just lucky.

I've spent quite a few hours watching Broken play and I have quite a few hours played on Ignition. He's well above the curve when it comes to exploiting pool tendencies at 200z and 500z.

That's very true. Broken is ok. Just another decently mediocre reg trying to make it. He's one of my fans so hes lucky he's safe.

Broken just know if you're getting hate from people when you're crushing the games like you are it means you're doing something right and they're jealous. Keep it up man sick results.

You're all too sweet

Give the man some breathing space lol

Who cares if he beats 500z stars if he doesnt play there and doesnt want to play there either.

Hes clearly beating ignition so what exactly is the point in this discussion?

Even if he doesnt know much complex strat or theory, 100/hr seems more than fair if he manages to coach people who want to beat ignition towards beating it. Plus its not up to you to decide whether what he charges is fair or not. Just let the customers decide for themselves if they think the price is fair...

Everyone underestimates variance, innit?

That's not a knock on OP, btw. Mason's clearly a winner in his particular player pool, but **** knows what his 'true' winrate would be, or how well he'd do on Stars. I'm not sure why some other people ITT are so angry about Mason winning so much. He's not gloating about it, and hasn't overcharged anyone for coaching, as far as I can tell.

Keep up the good work, Broken!