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Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada.  Possibly future career? Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada.  Possibly future career?

01-04-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hOoLiGaNNNNNNN
You really think Ignition is that much softer than ACR?

Also, why do you believe bots are prevalent on ACR but not on other sites?

Just curious since I've just had my BR on ACR and been too lazy to move it. But, if Ignition really is that much easier maybe I'll give it a shot. Just not a huge fan of the anonymous player pool. I like being able to build histories on opponents.
This is just my opinion based on my experiences. I haven't played on WPN in almost 4 years, so I'm sure a lot has changed in that time. The reasons why I believe Ignition is softer is because of the anonymous player pool. Of course there are pros and cons to this feature as call downs you might do against a villain with a lot of history on a particular reg, may not be +EV on Ignition.

With WPN, there's a lot of reg friendly features with the use of a historical HUD, rakeback, and promos for high volume players. With screennames available, there probably are seat scripts to try and get the best seats when a known whale/fish is on the table. While again there's value for regs that have these features, I personally don't like them and will have a tough time going back to a site like this, unless it was like pre Black Friday.

Bots may be a problem on any site. They're getting more difficult to detect and they're getting better. I wouldn't be surprised if I've played with a bunch of bots on either site and it hasn't been detected. Many feel due to the anonymous nature of Ignition, bots and collusion are prevalent on the site, though I personally don't think that's the case.

In the end, it really depends on your preferences. I had a hard time adjusting to the anonymous player pool at first but now I heavily prefer it. No seat scripts, no database HH's, just relying on your intuition and skills. My only complaint is the 4 table limit and the inability to put hands into my database for tracking purposes without a converter.
01-05-2017 , 03:36 AM
Start: 11090.18
End: 10906.15
Loss: (-184.03)

Ughhh, so annoying. People runner runnered me to win some huge pots off of me. Well it happens. Nothing I can do but keep playing solid.
01-05-2017 , 04:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Start: 11090.18
End: 10906.15
Loss: (-184.03)

Ughhh, so annoying. People runner runnered me to win some huge pots off of me. Well it happens. Nothing I can do but keep playing solid.
Exactly. Keep playing your game. Letting single day sessions frustrate you will do nothing but sabotage your technical and mental game. It's really important to think of the big picture. Are you playing well and are you winning, even barely, over a long time? If yes, then every hand you are playing you are making X amount of money. If it's a tough game it's less than your average $/hand and if it's a good game it's more, but overall it's X $ per hand.

You need to separate yourself from these tiny swings. I took about 10 disgusting coolers in the past 10 days, shortly after moving to 400 full time. Sure I was tilted but I didn't have a blowout and continued to play my game. In the old days I would have had a blowout and needed a really long break to even have a chance at not punting the rest off. It's super important if you want to break through to 400+ now that you don't let coolers tilt the **** out of you.

I think you have some entitlement tilt. I have it pretty bad too. It sounds like you feel robbed and doomed when the cards don't go your way. It's very difficult to get rid of but I know you can certainly improve it. When you have a losing session you usually say you got screwed, which is often the case, but just framing it like that sounds like you feel entitled to win when you play well, which is logical but getting rid of that train of thought is a good thing in poker.

You should also seriously take the coaching suggestion I told you about. Even if just for a session or two. It will pay for itself. The best thing I ever did was give up $ for coaching. If you are 4 tabling 200NL it will pay for itself within the first session. BTW if you want to play PLO I have another guy who coaches me who is excellent.

GL in 2017 bro
01-05-2017 , 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStuntman
This is just my opinion based on my experiences. I haven't played on WPN in almost 4 years, so I'm sure a lot has changed in that time. The reasons why I believe Ignition is softer is because of the anonymous player pool. Of course there are pros and cons to this feature as call downs you might do against a villain with a lot of history on a particular reg, may not be +EV on Ignition.

With WPN, there's a lot of reg friendly features with the use of a historical HUD, rakeback, and promos for high volume players. With screennames available, there probably are seat scripts to try and get the best seats when a known whale/fish is on the table. While again there's value for regs that have these features, I personally don't like them and will have a tough time going back to a site like this, unless it was like pre Black Friday.

Bots may be a problem on any site. They're getting more difficult to detect and they're getting better. I wouldn't be surprised if I've played with a bunch of bots on either site and it hasn't been detected. Many feel due to the anonymous nature of Ignition, bots and collusion are prevalent on the site, though I personally don't think that's the case.

In the end, it really depends on your preferences. I had a hard time adjusting to the anonymous player pool at first but now I heavily prefer it. No seat scripts, no database HH's, just relying on your intuition and skills. My only complaint is the 4 table limit and the inability to put hands into my database for tracking purposes without a converter.
I have recently found ignition and getting back into the game. 10 years ago in college I played on FT and put myself thru school with winnings there and the local casino boat. I have found the competition to be mediocre probably due to it primarily being a casino site. Deposited $50 around the holiday to play one tournament and decided to play a cash game instead; rolled it up to 2k as of last night
01-05-2017 , 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bm303
Exactly. Keep playing your game. Letting single day sessions frustrate you will do nothing but sabotage your technical and mental game. It's really important to think of the big picture. Are you playing well and are you winning, even barely, over a long time? If yes, then every hand you are playing you are making X amount of money. If it's a tough game it's less than your average $/hand and if it's a good game it's more, but overall it's X $ per hand.

You need to separate yourself from these tiny swings. I took about 10 disgusting coolers in the past 10 days, shortly after moving to 400 full time. Sure I was tilted but I didn't have a blowout and continued to play my game. In the old days I would have had a blowout and needed a really long break to even have a chance at not punting the rest off. It's super important if you want to break through to 400+ now that you don't let coolers tilt the **** out of you.

I think you have some entitlement tilt. I have it pretty bad too. It sounds like you feel robbed and doomed when the cards don't go your way. It's very difficult to get rid of but I know you can certainly improve it. When you have a losing session you usually say you got screwed, which is often the case, but just framing it like that sounds like you feel entitled to win when you play well, which is logical but getting rid of that train of thought is a good thing in poker.

You should also seriously take the coaching suggestion I told you about. Even if just for a session or two. It will pay for itself. The best thing I ever did was give up $ for coaching. If you are 4 tabling 200NL it will pay for itself within the first session. BTW if you want to play PLO I have another guy who coaches me who is excellent.

GL in 2017 bro
Hey man, yea I did get some coaching. It has helped a bit and I'm sure it's payed off for itself already. I've been dabbling at the 400 level for a bit, hopefully I'll make the jump by the time I return from Vegas, but I still feel I need to improve more before I do.

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Originally Posted by suovrennancy
I have recently found ignition and getting back into the game. 10 years ago in college I played on FT and put myself thru school with winnings there and the local casino boat. I have found the competition to be mediocre probably due to it primarily being a casino site. Deposited $50 around the holiday to play one tournament and decided to play a cash game instead; rolled it up to 2k as of last night
Nice man. Though, many speculated moving away from the sportsbook would make it a bit tougher.
01-06-2017 , 03:57 AM
Start: 10906.15
End: 11389.88
Profit: 483.73

Played a bit of 400 NL as I saw some juicy tables. Then proceded to play some 10.50 hypers and proceeded to run pretty terribly on those lol.
01-06-2017 , 02:49 PM
I forgot to post some goals for the month, both personally and poker. We'll see how this goal setting will go.

January goals:
[] Play 10,000 hands at combined at 200 and 400NL.
[] Win 5bb/100
[] Go out socially
01-06-2017 , 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStuntman
I forgot to post some goals for the month, both personally and poker. We'll see how this goal setting will go.

January goals:
[] Play 10,000 hands at combined at 200 and 400NL.
[] Win 5bb/100
[] Go out socially


Remove the "win 5bb/100" imo. 10,000 hands is literally nothing. I've had months of winning 20bb/100 over 25k hands and months of losing -20bb/100 over 25k hands. Trying keep that as a goal seems pretty unrealistic and will throw your mind off whether you win or lose.
01-06-2017 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pots-For-Sale
Remove the "win 5bb/100" imo. 10,000 hands is literally nothing. I've had months of winning 20bb/100 over 25k hands and months of losing -20bb/100 over 25k hands. Trying keep that as a goal seems pretty unrealistic and will throw your mind off whether you win or lose.
Fair point, just trying to motivate myself to play well.
01-06-2017 , 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Fair point, just trying to motivate myself to play well.
i would suggest rating each session with a quality of play score and try to aim for a certain average over the course of this month
01-06-2017 , 06:46 PM
Yeah I feel ya but that kinda goal setting could hinder your mind set. How about tilt related goals? Or study related goals? Or something you can control?
01-06-2017 , 06:47 PM
It certainly seems like coaching has helped. I'm looking to get some myself.

Y u no plo ne mo?
01-06-2017 , 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStuntman
[] Go out socially
Glad to find out I'm not the only one who have that goal.
GL mate
01-06-2017 , 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaritia
It certainly seems like coaching has helped. I'm looking to get some myself.

Y u no plo ne mo?
While I enjoy PLO, it's really hard for me at times to see idiots run so good playing literally any 4 and hit a board so hard and/or get lucky with back door draws. While you will argue, Stuntman look at your graph at PLO, you're running way above EV!, and I'll say you're right, but I can assure you I had pot odds to get it in while behind, where as these idiots are cold calling 3 and 4 bets at times and winning.

Short answer: swings and variance.

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Originally Posted by smileAgain
Glad to find out I'm not the only one who have that goal.
GL mate
Yea, trying to find a girlfriend this year. Pretty hard though when my face looks like I survived an acid attack. Thankfully, I just got my acne prescription back last week, so hopefully it won't be so bad in a month.
01-06-2017 , 08:13 PM
Don't take accutane no matter how tempted you are. Everyone I know that took that stuff has stomach problems for life. Like, everyone I know. 4 out of 4 people. I almost took it. I am so glad I didn't...
01-06-2017 , 08:30 PM
Yea acne is diet man this is coming from a former pizza face. Reduce sugar as much as possible and stay away from lactose.

Literally like every weird ailment on earth is diet and I used to think this was hippie vegan bs but it isn't, it's true. It's not genetics. It's not bad luck. It's processed food and drinks that are like 50% sugar.

Also stress. Which sucks for any poker player.
01-06-2017 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by outfit
Don't take accutane no matter how tempted you are. Everyone I know that took that stuff has stomach problems for life. Like, everyone I know. 4 out of 4 people. I almost took it. I am so glad I didn't...
My doctor doesn't like accutane because of the side effects, but it is very effective. He gave me ampicilion.

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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Yea acne is diet man this is coming from a former pizza face. Reduce sugar as much as possible and stay away from lactose.

Literally like every weird ailment on earth is diet and I used to think this was hippie vegan bs but it isn't, it's true. It's not genetics. It's not bad luck. It's processed food and drinks that are like 50% sugar.

Also stress. Which sucks for any poker player.
My Dr. says diet has very little to do with acne. Some of it is genetics and some of it is beyond our control.
01-06-2017 , 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaritia
Yea acne is diet man this is coming from a former pizza face. Reduce sugar as much as possible and stay away from lactose.

Literally like every weird ailment on earth is diet and I used to think this was hippie vegan bs but it isn't, it's true. It's not genetics. It's not bad luck. It's processed food and drinks that are like 50% sugar.

Also stress. Which sucks for any poker player.
For sure.

Regarding acne, I got rid of mine completely by cutting out processed foods and, most importantly, I stopped washing my face. Literally no product on my face whatsoever. The first 10 days or so things got even worse. Then my skin rapidly cleared up and I went from multiple pimples per day to maybe one per year. Turns out the products were drying out my skin and causing irrtation, and I was using the 'gentlest' stuff on the market.

I switched to natural shampoo and soap and nothing but water goes on my face. Perfectly clear skin since.

Fish oil also helped a lot.

Taking antibiotics, or accutane, is not addressing the 'root cause' of the issue. There's more to it than doctors want to admit and that goes for every health condition.
01-06-2017 , 10:31 PM
Doctors are some of the most closed minded individuals on the planet and the bad ones (many) say exactly that.

Again this is coming from someone who was once a skeptic to all the hype diet/exercise gets but doctors want to prescribe your wife Zoloft for depression instead of telling her to work out, they want you to take Ambien for insomnia instead of telling you to avoid foods high in fat, and they want to give your kids Adderall instead of telling the parents to stop giving their kid 5 ****ing cokes a day.

There are tons of good documentaries/ studies out there that show that native tribes have some of the healthiest physiology on the planet and instead of being fascinated/curious why Aboriginal people have perfect teeth and no heart disease we just pump fluoride in tap water and prescribe Lipitor and call it a day.

*removes tin foil hat*
01-07-2017 , 03:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bm303
For sure.

Regarding acne, I got rid of mine completely by cutting out processed foods and, most importantly, I stopped washing my face. Literally no product on my face whatsoever. The first 10 days or so things got even worse. Then my skin rapidly cleared up and I went from multiple pimples per day to maybe one per year. Turns out the products were drying out my skin and causing irrtation, and I was using the 'gentlest' stuff on the market.

I switched to natural shampoo and soap and nothing but water goes on my face. Perfectly clear skin since.

Fish oil also helped a lot.

Taking antibiotics, or accutane, is not addressing the 'root cause' of the issue. There's more to it than doctors want to admit and that goes for every health condition.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaritia
Doctors are some of the most closed minded individuals on the planet and the bad ones (many) say exactly that.

Again this is coming from someone who was once a skeptic to all the hype diet/exercise gets but doctors want to prescribe your wife Zoloft for depression instead of telling her to work out, they want you to take Ambien for insomnia instead of telling you to avoid foods high in fat, and they want to give your kids Adderall instead of telling the parents to stop giving their kid 5 ****ing cokes a day.

There are tons of good documentaries/ studies out there that show that native tribes have some of the healthiest physiology on the planet and instead of being fascinated/curious why Aboriginal people have perfect teeth and no heart disease we just pump fluoride in tap water and prescribe Lipitor and call it a day.

*removes tin foil hat*
I agree with some aspects of what you're saying. Many doctors rather prescribe drugs as they are paid/reimbursed the more they prescribe. You guys may be right though, my diet is pretty poor, so it may be the cause of my acne.

Start: 11389.88
End: 11703.20
Profit: 313.32

Session started up pretty terribly, lost 4 buyins pretty quick due to coolers and me making very bad calls. Then the cards turned and I started running pretty hot.
01-08-2017 , 04:25 AM
Start: 11703.20
End: 11126.38
Loss: -(576.82)

Well, I ran into coolers and lost a flip for 2.5 BI's. Couldn't hit draws and whiffed on flops. Tough day today.
01-09-2017 , 02:30 AM
Start: 11126.38
End: 10753.70
Loss: -(372.68)

Played mostly 400NL tonight, got some good tables but unfortunately didn't run very well. Happens.
01-10-2017 , 03:06 AM
Start: 10753.70
End: 10536.11
Loss: -(217.59)

Played solid but the cards weren't with me today. Had AKss and ran into KK against a whale and also lost a flip with TT vs AK. Got river a couple of times too so that sucked.
01-12-2017 , 03:18 AM
Start: 10536.11
End: 10619.37
Profit: 83.26

My numbers may be off because I'm clearing a 100 dollar bonus. Didn't feel like playing last night, just felt really tired and depressed so I didn't want to force myself to play. Session started off solid, then went to hell, but then I recovered towards the end of the session.
01-13-2017 , 02:26 AM
Start: 10619.37
End: 10664.81
Profit: 45.44

I ran really really poorly post flop. Had KK 4 times, 3 of em an Ace showed up and I had to fold to pressure. Got in a flip vs a whale with 33 vss.......j8 off. I 4 bet jammed after a squeeze attempt and a call by the whale to try and pick up dead money. Whale obv flopped a straight gg me. But I got someone else back, 54 cc vs 43 hh on a 4682hh board on a 4 bet(!) pot. Good times. I stopped playing because I was starting to get tilted.

      
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