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05-08-2014 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Number1Hater
In my opinion, Cake rewards are better. I'm pretty sure I'm getting 55%-60% RB with the promos they have. Cake rake is still dealt method, so the rake back is really heavy. The monthly reloads are very easy to clear. Also if you're putting in decent volume, you can easily place in top 5 in the FPP race.

As for WPN, their rake is contributed, so less RB for you. You get 27% RB instead of the 36% that you get on Cake. I also think 'the beast' isn't that great. You need to place in top 3 for good money, and the same players are constantly winning those week after week. I'm pretty sure those guys put in the minimum 100k hands/week.

More regs on WPN. Cake also has a ton of regs, but I see a lot more fish on Cake than on WPN.

Hope this helps, GL.
I will keep this in mind, if i get to a point where i need moar volume i might add cake as a second network. Was considering equity but cake sounds better as at least hm2 works here without a hh convertor
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05-08-2014 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BeezerBrigade
I will keep this in mind, if i get to a point where i need moar volume i might add cake as a second network. Was considering equity but cake sounds better as at least hm2 works here without a hh convertor
I snap left Equity. I don't even know how you can play there with that software.
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05-08-2014 , 06:08 PM
I haven't even checked it out, was choice due to rake and rb. It's how i chose acr over merge. The week before i had to choose acr dropped beast fee so it was easy decision
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05-09-2014 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Number1Hater
I snap left Equity. I don't even know how you can play there with that software.
you serious? b4 getting banned in january i had 5 fish per 6max table at 200nl and 6-7 on fullring tables..

Best reg was 35/12 5%
that means ACR and WPN are soft as hell too?
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05-09-2014 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
you serious? b4 getting banned in january i had 5 fish per 6max table at 200nl and 6-7 on fullring tables..

Best reg was 35/12 5%
that means ACR and WPN are soft as hell too?
I'm pretty sure the games are good. However, I'm talking about their software...

35/12 seems like your live poker recreational fish, not a reg.

No, I'm not a bumhunter.
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05-09-2014 , 11:28 AM
Theres no way to logically justify not playing a site with an OK software that isnt perfect when you can basically get all your tables with 0 to 1 regs on them

That's like gettting offered to go back in time to the party days and refusing because the 1 stipulation is that you cant have a tracker/hud.
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05-09-2014 , 01:26 PM
Wow equity sounds juicy, how soft is cake vs wpn?
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05-09-2014 , 04:00 PM
found some hands from the site

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Party)
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 16, 08:21:00 ET 2014
Table CaptainJack (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 ( $1067.55 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 57
Seat 4: Player4 ( $115.87 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 1.0, Hands: 115
Seat 5: Hero ( $191.00 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 11, AF: 1.6, Hands: 1597
Seat 6: Player6 ( $27.08 USD ) - VPIP: 38, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 16
Seat 7: Player7 ( $425.89 USD ) - VPIP: 70, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1.6, Hands: 23
Seat 8: Player8 ( $231.22 USD ) - VPIP: 38, PFR: 6, 3B: 3, AF: 1.8, Hands: 216
Seat 9: Player9 ( $123.19 USD ) - VPIP: 43, PFR: 8, 3B: 2, AF: 1.8, Hands: 120
Hero posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 4s 4c ]
Player7 raises [$4.00 USD]
Player8 calls [$4.00 USD]
Player9 calls [$4.00 USD]
Player2 folds
Player4 folds
Hero calls [$3.00 USD]
Player6 calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 4d, 5s ]
Hero checks
Player6 checks
Player7 bets [$10.00 USD]
Player8 calls [$10.00 USD]
Player9 calls [$10.00 USD]
Hero calls [$10.00 USD]
Player6 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
Hero checks
Player7 bets [$14.25 USD]
Player8 calls [$14.25 USD]
Player9 raises [$28.50 USD]
Hero calls [$28.50 USD]
Player7 calls [$14.25 USD]
Player8 folds
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
Hero bets [$69.00 USD]
Player7 folds
Player9 calls [$69.00 USD]
Hero shows [4s, 4c ]
Player9 wins $0.00 USD from main pot
Hero wins $294.75 USD from main pot

every table was like at or better at 400 too.

Id suck all the ***** to play there permanently.

dont ask about the line it makes no sense to me.. probably some weird read on a spewtard.
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05-09-2014 , 04:06 PM
found an other hand i posted

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Party)
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, January 17, 12:03:00 ET 2014
Table Faith (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 5: Player5 ( $23.51 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 27
Seat 6: Player6 ( $108.83 USD ) - VPIP: 53, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 1.6, Hands: 38
Seat 7: Player7 ( $88.49 USD ) - VPIP: 40, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 20
Seat 8: Hero ( $301.21 USD ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 22, 3B: 9, AF: 1.5, Hands: 2586
Seat 9: Player9 ( $48.00 USD ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 56
Seat 10: Player10 ( $269.00 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 1.8, Hands: 466
Player6 posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Player7 posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h 9d ]
Hero raises [$6.00 USD]
Player9 folds
Player10 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 calls [$5.00 USD]
Player7 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 7c, Jh ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$7.00 USD]
Player6 calls [$7.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
Player6 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
Player6 bets [$26.60 USD]
Hero calls [$26.60 USD]
Hero shows [9h, 9d ]
Player6 shows [5s, 4c ]
Hero wins $78.20 USD from main pot

if wpn and cake are that soft i need to get on american sites
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05-10-2014 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BeezerBrigade
Wow equity sounds juicy, how soft is cake vs wpn?
Depends on time of day. ACR seems pretty much like a regfest during peak hours. Fish seem to come out during the graveyard shifts. Cake is pretty much the same.
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05-10-2014 , 11:33 AM
Past few days haven't really gone well. Breakeven at best.

Spoiler:





Given positions, I think this should have been a fold pre. He 3bets a total of 5% from the blinds.

    Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $52.26 (104.5 bb)
    BB: $132.10 (264.2 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $62.68 (125.4 bb)
    MP: $69.81 (139.6 bb)
    CO: $90.72 (181.4 bb)
    BTN: $60.93 (121.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J J
    Hero raises to $1.50, 4 folds, BB raises to $5.38, Hero calls $3.88

    Flop: ($11.01) K J 3 (2 players)
    BB bets $7.34, Hero calls $7.34

    Turn: ($25.69) A (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $17.13, BB raises to $119.38 and is all-in, Hero calls $32.83

    River: ($125.61) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $125.61 pot ($4.00 rake)
    Final Board: K J 3 A 8
    BB showed K K and won $121.61 ($58.93 net)
    Hero showed J J and lost (-$62.68 net)





    Can I fold here? I'm just never good in these spots for some reason. He folds 65% in 3bet pots vs a Cbet.

      Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $53.15 (106.3 bb)
      BB: $106.87 (213.7 bb)
      UTG: $60.39 (120.8 bb)
      MP: $68.80 (137.6 bb)
      CO: $49.25 (98.5 bb)
      BTN: $56.76 (113.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
      UTG raises to $1.34, MP folds, CO calls $1.34, BTN folds, Hero raises to $5.68, 2 folds, CO calls $4.34

      Flop: ($13.20) 7 Q 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.80, CO raises to $18.10, Hero raises to $47.47, CO calls $25.47 and is all-in

      Turn: ($100.34) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($100.34) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $100.34 pot ($4 rake)
      Final Board: 7 Q 9 3 8
      Hero showed A Q and won $0.00 (-$49.25 net)
      CO showed Q 9 and won $96.34 ($47.09 net)





      Thoughts on going for 3! here?

        Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)
        BB: $89.09 (178.2 bb)
        MP: $20.09 (40.2 bb)
        Hero (CO): $60.70 (121.4 bb)
        BTN: $48.37 (96.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with Q T
        MP folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

        Flop: ($3.75) 7 9 J (2 players)
        Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

        Turn: ($8.75) A (2 players)
        Hero bets $5.84, BTN calls $5.84

        River: ($20.43) 4 (2 players)
        Hero bets $13.62, BTN raises to $38.53, Hero folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $47.67 pot ($2.35 rake)
        Final Board: 7 9 J A 4
        Hero mucked Q T and lost (-$23.46 net)
        BTN mucked and won $45.32 ($21.86 net)





        This one is laughable. Value owning myself.

          Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: $56.16 (112.3 bb)
          BB: $81.39 (162.8 bb)
          Hero (CO): $84.33 (168.7 bb)
          BTN: $52.50 (105 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
          Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

          Flop: ($3.75) 3 6 T (2 players)
          Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

          Turn: ($8.75) 2 (2 players)
          Hero bets $6.75, BTN calls $6.75

          River: ($22.25) 6 (2 players)
          Hero bets $18.66, BTN calls $18.66

          Spoiler:
          Results: $59.57 pot ($2.00 rake)
          Final Board: 3 6 T 2 6
          Hero showed A A and lost (-$29.41 net)
          BTN showed 4 5 and won $57.57 ($28.16 net)





          Vs the mark at the table. Decided to just gii/gamble and hope to bink before anyone gets his money.

            Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            SB: $98.90 (98.9 bb)
            BB: $93.15 (93.2 bb)
            Hero (MP): $103.70 (103.7 bb)
            CO: $202.41 (202.4 bb)
            BTN: $93.50 (93.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP with A J
            Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB raises to $7.67, BB folds, Hero calls $4.67

            Flop: ($16.34) 9 5 2 (2 players)
            SB bets $16.34, Hero raises to $96.03 and is all-in, SB calls $74.89 and is all-in

            Turn: ($198.80) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
            River: ($198.80) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $198.80 pot ($4.00 rake)
            Final Board: 9 5 2 T Q
            SB showed A A and won $194.80 ($95.90 net)
            Hero showed A J and won $0.00 (-$98.90 net)





            I had to quit after this one. Nothing tilts me more than regs butchering hands and getting there.

              Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

              SB: $51.87 (103.7 bb)
              BB: $73.98 (148 bb)
              UTG: $43.93 (87.9 bb)
              MP: $46.78 (93.6 bb)
              CO: $40.88 (81.8 bb)
              Hero (BTN): $63.87 (127.7 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 A
              3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

              Flop: ($2.50) 9 A 3 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $1.67, SB raises to $5.34, Hero calls $3.67

              Turn: ($13.18) 8 (2 players)
              SB bets $7.59, Hero calls $7.59

              River: ($28.36) Q (2 players)
              SB bets $18.91, Hero calls $18.91

              Spoiler:
              Results: $66.18 pot ($3.30 rake)
              Final Board: 9 A 3 8 Q
              SB showed 8 8 and won $62.88 ($30.04 net)
              Hero mucked 9 A and lost (-$32.84 net)





              I'm burnt out and need a couple days off. Definitely not playing my best, making some light call downs in some spots, and mental game hasn't been that great either. I'll put in some volume, but won't be mass tabling until the weekend is over.
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              05-11-2014 , 04:32 PM
              Gl bro keep the spirits up!
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              05-14-2014 , 02:04 AM
              I'm back. Took a couple days off to refresh.

              Today started off well, then head asplode.

              Spoiler:





              Value owning myself once again.

                WPN, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                SB: $53.32 (106.6 bb)
                Hero (BB): $55.59 (111.2 bb)
                CO: $54.59 (109.2 bb)
                BTN: $50 (100 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
                CO folds, BTN raises to $1.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $3.25

                Flop: ($9.25) 4 Q 3 (2 players)
                Hero bets $4.39, BTN calls $4.39

                Turn: ($18.03) 2 (2 players)
                Hero bets $11.42, BTN calls $11.42

                River: ($40.87) A (2 players)
                Hero bets $35.28 and is all-in, BTN calls $29.69 and is all-in

                Spoiler:
                Results: $100.25 pot ($2 rake)
                Final Board: 4 Q 3 2 A
                Hero showed A K and lost (-$50 net)
                BTN showed 5 5 and won $98.25 ($48.25 net)





                I'm thinking 88/99. Those can't call rivers, but what do I know..

                  Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                  SB: $19.14 (38.3 bb)
                  BB: $17.34 (34.7 bb)
                  Hero (UTG): $142.79 (285.6 bb)
                  MP: $45.25 (90.5 bb)
                  CO: $16.27 (32.5 bb)
                  BTN: $17.22 (34.4 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is UTG with T A
                  Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 4 folds

                  Flop: ($3.75) 7 4 4 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $2.50, MP calls $2.50

                  Turn: ($8.75) Q (2 players)
                  Hero bets $6.34, MP calls $6.34

                  River: ($21.43) 2 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $16.93, MP calls $16.93

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $55.29 pot ($2.75 rake)
                  Final Board: 7 4 4 Q 2
                  Hero showed T A and lost (-$27.27 net)
                  MP showed J J and won $52.54 ($25.27 net)





                  Same thought process, wrong result.

                    Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                    Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
                    BB: $97.29 (194.6 bb)
                    UTG: $17.89 (35.8 bb)
                    MP: $69.96 (139.9 bb)
                    CO: $77.50 (155 bb)
                    BTN: $49.25 (98.5 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
                    2 folds, CO raises to $1.34, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4.52, BB folds, CO calls $3.18

                    Flop: ($9.54) 8 4 3 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $6.36, CO calls $6.36

                    Turn: ($22.26) 3 (2 players)
                    Hero checks, CO checks

                    River: ($22.26) K (2 players)
                    Hero bets $16.34, CO calls $16.34

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $54.94 pot ($2.70 rake)
                    Final Board: 8 4 3 3 K
                    Hero showed A Q and lost (-$27.22 net)
                    CO showed J J and won $52.24 ($25.02 net)





                    This is probably just a river bet/fold given he can have AQ/AJ.

                      Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                      SB: $49.43 (98.9 bb)
                      BB: $59.02 (118 bb)
                      UTG: $52.42 (104.8 bb)
                      Hero (MP): $50 (100 bb)
                      CO: $51.34 (102.7 bb)
                      BTN: $54.57 (109.1 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is MP with K A
                      UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

                      Flop: ($4.75) A 9 4 (3 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $3.17, BTN calls $3.17, BB folds

                      Turn: ($11.09) 9 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $7.90, BTN calls $7.90

                      River: ($26.89) T (2 players)
                      Hero checks, BTN bets $13.45, Hero calls $13.45

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $53.79 pot ($2.65 rake)
                      Final Board: A 9 4 9 T
                      Hero mucked K A and lost (-$26.02 net)
                      BTN showed A T and won $51.14 ($25.12 net)





                      I definitely have a tell.

                        Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                        BB: $101.47 (101.5 bb)
                        Hero (SB): $103.84 (103.8 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 T
                        Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

                        Flop: ($6) 2 8 J (2 players)
                        BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

                        Turn: ($14) K (2 players)
                        BB checks, Hero bets $10.34, BB calls $10.34

                        River: ($34.68) 9 (2 players)
                        BB checks, Hero bets $24.12, BB calls $24.12

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $82.92 pot ($1 rake)
                        Final Board: 2 8 J K 9
                        BB showed T J and won $81.92 ($40.46 net)
                        Hero showed 2 T and lost (-$41.46 net)





                        He tried repping quads and I didn't believe him.

                          Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                          SB: $28.38 (56.8 bb)
                          BB: $116.13 (232.3 bb)
                          Hero (MP): $50.75 (101.5 bb)
                          CO: $96.50 (193 bb)
                          BTN: $49.75 (99.5 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is MP with J T
                          Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

                          Flop: ($3.75) 9 9 4 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

                          Turn: ($8.75) Q (2 players)
                          Hero bets $6.34, BTN calls $6.34

                          River: ($21.43) 7 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $15.79, BTN raises to $39.41 and is all-in, Hero calls $23.62

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $100.25 pot ($4 rake)
                          Final Board: 9 9 4 Q 7
                          Hero showed J T and won $96.25 ($46.50 net)
                          BTN showed T J and lost (-$49.75 net)





                          This has been a boring ass month so far, I'm breakeven at best/slightly up with RB. Just the way things goes sometimes. Nothing I can do but to review and try to get better everyday. I will also cut down on tables. You know you're playing too many tables when you dont even know how the action went down, or you're asking yourself 'how did the pot get so big?'
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                          05-14-2014 , 01:16 PM
                          Solid solution, keep your head up and it'll turn around
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                          05-14-2014 , 02:46 PM
                          Subbed, gl. Brutal day today it seems
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                          05-14-2014 , 08:17 PM
                          Seems that you're 3 barreling too much. In the 2nd hand you posted flop was 744, no one ever folds to cbets on those boards in my experience. I would also check back on the T2 hand on the turn and fold/check non heart rivers.
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                          05-15-2014 , 08:00 PM
                          You got this buddy!
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                          05-16-2014 , 09:16 PM
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                          Originally Posted by GazzyB123
                          Subbed, gl. Brutal day today it seems
                          Thanks.

                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by Dang_Man
                          Seems that you're 3 barreling too much. In the 2nd hand you posted flop was 744, no one ever folds to cbets on those boards in my experience. I would also check back on the T2 hand on the turn and fold/check non heart rivers.
                          Yeah, I was getting mentally frustrated and tried to force things.

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                          Originally Posted by !uSwEEt!
                          You got this buddy!
                          I hope so!
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                          05-16-2014 , 09:37 PM
                          WEEK UPDATE:

                          Spoiler:


                          Even though I am under EV, I definitely feel like I am leaking somewhere. I have loosened up a bit, and I'm defending more 3bets, and just playing fit/fold post flop. Also my river call efficiency is around 1, which is very poor. Looking to fold more rivers.




                          100NL UPDATE:

                          About 25% complete of 100k hands. Breaking even for the most part.

                          Spoiler:





                          I felt like I needed to defend here, given how much I've been getting 3b by villan.

                            Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                            SB: $305.47 (305.5 bb)
                            BB: $144.61 (144.6 bb)
                            Hero (BTN): $156.49 (156.5 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is BTN with J Q
                            Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB raises to $7, Hero calls $5

                            Flop: ($14.50) 8 8 J (2 players)
                            BB bets $7.25, Hero calls $7.25

                            Turn: ($29) 4 (2 players)
                            BB bets $19.34, Hero calls $19.34

                            River: ($67.68) 6 (2 players)
                            BB bets $50, Hero calls $50

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $167.68 pot ($2 rake)
                            Final Board: 8 8 J 4 6
                            BB showed J J and won $165.68 ($82.09 net)
                            Hero mucked J Q and lost (-$83.59 net)





                            I don't think this is thin at all. 59/17, and he is passive.

                              Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                              SB: $100.70 (100.7 bb)
                              BB: $100 (100 bb)
                              Hero (MP): $104.90 (104.9 bb)
                              CO: $61.67 (61.7 bb)
                              BTN: $176.82 (176.8 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is MP with Q K
                              Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 3 folds

                              Flop: ($7.50) K 4 2 (2 players)
                              Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

                              Turn: ($17.50) 6 (2 players)
                              Hero bets $12.50, CO calls $12.50

                              River: ($42.50) A (2 players)
                              Hero bets $26.50, CO calls $26.50

                              Spoiler:
                              Results: $95.50 pot ($4 rake)
                              Final Board: K 4 2 6 A
                              Hero showed Q K and lost (-$47 net)
                              CO showed A 5 and won $91.50 ($44.50 net)





                              A pretty annoying fold, but villan is loose-PASSIVE, and I don't feel like he's even betting worse here.

                                Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
                                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                                SB: $100.40 (100.4 bb)
                                BB: $150.80 (150.8 bb)
                                CO: $103.85 (103.9 bb)
                                Hero (BTN): $116.21 (116.2 bb)

                                Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
                                CO folds, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

                                Flop: ($9) 2 T Q (3 players)
                                SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7, BB calls $7

                                Turn: ($30) 6 (3 players)
                                SB checks, BB bets $20, Hero calls $20, SB folds

                                River: ($70) K (2 players)
                                BB bets $46.67, Hero folds

                                Spoiler:
                                Results: $70 pot ($2 rake)
                                Final Board: 2 T Q 6 K
                                BB mucked and won $68 ($38 net)
                                Hero mucked K K and lost (-$30 net)





                                I am up for the month, but it's been pretty frustrating at the tables. RB/Bonuses are bailing me out at the moment. I guess I'm just going to have to grind it out.




                                Some hands where I feel lost and just click call:

                                  Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                                  SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)
                                  BB: $49.27 (98.5 bb)
                                  MP: $51.50 (103 bb)
                                  CO: $73.13 (146.3 bb)
                                  Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)

                                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
                                  2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3, BB folds, Hero calls $2

                                  Flop: ($6.50) 2 J 3 (2 players)
                                  SB bets $4.34, Hero calls $4.34

                                  Turn: ($15.18) 7 (2 players)
                                  SB bets $10.12, Hero calls $10.12

                                  River: ($35.42) 2 (2 players)
                                  SB bets $32.79 and is all-in, Hero calls $32.54 and is all-in

                                  Spoiler:
                                  Results: $100.50 pot ($4 rake)
                                  Final Board: 2 J 3 7 2
                                  SB showed 2 4 and won $96.50 ($46.50 net)
                                  Hero showed J A and lost (-$50 net)





                                    Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
                                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                                    SB: $88.11 (176.2 bb)
                                    BB: $52.74 (105.5 bb)
                                    CO: $61.41 (122.8 bb)
                                    Hero (BTN): $57.57 (115.1 bb)

                                    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 Q
                                    CO folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

                                    Flop: ($2.50) 4 T 8 (2 players)
                                    SB checks, Hero bets $1.67, SB calls $1.67

                                    Turn: ($5.84) Q (2 players)
                                    SB checks, Hero bets $5.34, SB raises to $13.60, Hero calls $8.26

                                    River: ($33.04) 6 (2 players)
                                    SB bets $22.03, Hero calls $22.03

                                    Spoiler:
                                    Results: $77.10 pot ($2 rake)
                                    Final Board: 4 T 8 Q 6
                                    SB showed 4 2 and won $75.10 ($36.80 net)
                                    Hero mucked 8 Q and lost (-$38.30 net)


                                    How to approach these?

                                    GL.
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                                    05-18-2014 , 09:17 PM
                                    H1: turn is probably bad, river is def bad
                                    H2: I don't like river cuz a lot of his range is Acxc
                                    H3: good fold, turn sizing looks like value
                                    H4: idk, I feel like we're behind to his tb range with his sizing and texture. Not sure wo reads.
                                    H5: that's tough. If river was non diamond I would feel better about. I think his xr range is fds and J9. So that diamond sucks balls and the fact that he barrels is pretty strong.

                                    Haven't checked spoilers btw. Will do now.
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                                    05-18-2014 , 09:24 PM
                                    Lol at H4, unlucky. Exploit him by defending vs his 3bet with an extended value range, 4b him lighter, I think the fact that he barrels a 2x river says a lot about his TB range, like if he barrels a blank he probably has it. Not exactly sure how to exploit him post. That was just off the top of my head.
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                                    05-19-2014 , 03:06 AM
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by mkultra88
                                    H1: turn is probably bad, river is def bad
                                    H2: I don't like river cuz a lot of his range is Acxc
                                    H3: good fold, turn sizing looks like value
                                    H4: idk, I feel like we're behind to his tb range with his sizing and texture. Not sure wo reads.
                                    H5: that's tough. If river was non diamond I would feel better about. I think his xr range is fds and J9. So that diamond sucks balls and the fact that he barrels is pretty strong.

                                    Haven't checked spoilers btw. Will do now.
                                    h1: yeah i should probably fold river. even up to nl100 i don't see 3barrels as being bluffs.
                                    h2: if you add in KT/KJ, then it becomes a clear vbet. this guy's vpip is well over 50%.
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                                    05-19-2014 , 03:51 AM
                                    Last week:

                                    Spoiler:





                                    A spot I struggle with constantly.

                                      Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
                                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                                      Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
                                      BB: $93.98 (94 bb)
                                      BTN: $103.54 (103.5 bb)

                                      Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
                                      BTN raises to $2.67, Hero raises to $9.01, BB folds, BTN calls $6.34

                                      Flop: ($19.02) 4 J T (2 players)
                                      Hero bets $9.51, BTN calls $9.51

                                      Turn: ($38.04) A (2 players)
                                      Hero checks, BTN bets $19.02, Hero calls $19.02

                                      River: ($76.08) 7 (2 players)
                                      Hero checks, BTN bets $66, Hero folds

                                      Spoiler:
                                      Results: $76.08 pot ($2 rake)
                                      Final Board: 4 J T A 7
                                      Hero mucked K A and lost (-$37.54 net)
                                      BTN mucked and won $74.08 ($36.54 net)





                                      I tried balancing here and got owned.

                                        Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                                        SB: $127.59 (255.2 bb)
                                        BB: $45.25 (90.5 bb)
                                        Hero (MP): $114.07 (228.1 bb)
                                        CO: $55.70 (111.4 bb)
                                        BTN: $49.56 (99.1 bb)

                                        Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
                                        Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

                                        Flop: ($4.75) T 3 K (3 players)
                                        BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $3.17, BB folds, Hero calls $3.17

                                        Turn: ($11.09) 2 (2 players)
                                        Hero checks, BTN bets $7.40, Hero calls $7.40

                                        River: ($25.89) 3 (2 players)
                                        Hero checks, BTN bets $17.26, Hero calls $17.26

                                        Spoiler:
                                        Results: $60.41 pot ($3.00 rake)
                                        Final Board: T 3 K 2 3
                                        Hero mucked A K and lost (-$29.33 net)
                                        BTN showed 2 2 and won $57.41 ($28.08 net)





                                        River was just a punt. I know I'm beat and still call lol.

                                          Cake Poker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                                          SB: $60.85 (121.7 bb)
                                          BB: $27.54 (55.1 bb)
                                          UTG: $21.88 (43.8 bb)
                                          Hero (MP): $84.13 (168.3 bb)
                                          CO: $10.75 (21.5 bb)
                                          BTN: $61.30 (122.6 bb)

                                          Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
                                          UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, BB folds, UTG calls $1

                                          Flop: ($5) 5 5 K (3 players)
                                          SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3.34, SB calls $3.34, UTG folds

                                          Turn: ($11.68) 6 (2 players)
                                          SB checks, Hero bets $8.29, SB calls $8.29

                                          River: ($28.26) 7 (2 players)
                                          SB bets $23.72, Hero calls $23.72

                                          Spoiler:
                                          Results: $75.70 pot ($3.75 rake)
                                          Final Board: 5 5 K 6 7
                                          SB showed 5 7 and won $71.95 ($35.10 net)
                                          Hero mucked A A and lost (-$36.85 net)





                                          Should I fold the river?

                                            WPN, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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                                            SB: $48.85 (97.7 bb)
                                            Hero (BB): $52.31 (104.6 bb)
                                            MP: $32.77 (65.5 bb)
                                            CO: $22.97 (45.9 bb)
                                            BTN: $78.55 (157.1 bb)

                                            Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
                                            MP folds, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $1, SB folds, Hero raises to $4, CO folds, BTN calls $3

                                            Flop: ($9.25) A 4 8 (2 players)
                                            Hero checks, BTN checks

                                            Turn: ($9.25) K (2 players)
                                            Hero bets $6.50, BTN raises to $13, Hero calls $6.50

                                            River: ($35.25) 7 (2 players)
                                            Hero checks, BTN bets $50, Hero calls $35.31 and is all-in

                                            Spoiler:
                                            Results: $105.87 pot ($2 rake)
                                            Final Board: A 4 8 K 7
                                            Hero showed K K and lost (-$52.31 net)
                                            BTN showed 3 T and won $103.87 ($51.56 net)





                                            I might drop Cake out of my schedule. I'm getting in volume but not enough under the stake. short term goal is to show a profit at nl100, but overall goal is to get to nl200+ by the end of the year. i truly believe it's possible with the help of the stable.
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                                            05-19-2014 , 01:07 PM
                                            Last hand. Reason for not re raising turn?
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                                            05-19-2014 , 02:58 PM
                                            Quote:
                                            Originally Posted by mkultra88
                                            Last hand. Reason for not re raising turn?
                                            +1
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