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... That's what we're talking about...

When we have a total win/loss graph and a total chip ev graph then we have an accurate representation of how it's going in terms of luck and whether he's beating the game.

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02-07-2013 , 09:23 PM

#1102

blakkman08

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OP, have your goals changed for this year? not sure what your new goals are wrt nosebleed hypers but i assume you re gonna try and be a pre rb winner and reduce the vpp goal?

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02-07-2013 , 09:49 PM

#1103

Rusemandingo

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Originally Posted by eh777

You realize in sngs a chip won isnt worth the same as a chip lost? Or a chip won vs 1 villain isnt worth the same as a chip won from a different villain?

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02-07-2013 , 10:09 PM

#1104

eh777

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

You realize in sngs a chip won isnt worth the same as a chip lost? Or a chip won vs 1 villain isnt worth the same as a chip won from a different villain?

How is that relevant here? We're talking about all-in EV to see how he's running...

It's like you're trying to find a reason why EV graphs don't matter, when there isn't one.

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02-07-2013 , 10:19 PM

#1105

debacle

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IDK what everybody else is talking about but what I want to see are "luck adjusted winnings" lol you know, red line in HM or orange line in PT4

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02-07-2013 , 10:26 PM

#1106

Rusemandingo

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Originally Posted by eh777

How is that relevant here? We're talking about all-in EV to see how he's running...

It's like you're trying to find a reason why EV graphs don't matter, when there isn't one.

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02-07-2013 , 10:37 PM

#1107

daddyrnac

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mayb by bb graphs he meant bad beat graphs?

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02-07-2013 , 10:53 PM

#1108

LTT777

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Originally Posted by eh777

How is that relevant here? We're talking about all-in EV to see how he's running...

It's like you're trying to find a reason why EV graphs don't matter, when there isn't one.

What you are looking for is a luck adjusted winnings graph. Why Ruse is doing such a good job of trolling you is a chip ev graph is useless in determining how someone is running in sngs where ICM plays a significant role.

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02-07-2013 , 11:11 PM

#1109

Rusemandingo

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I think the BB graph guy meant Cev graph though. Funny cause with AW's abi the Cev graph could look similar to the $ev graph. I mean the 500s are 1 dollar per chip :O

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02-08-2013 , 01:05 AM

#1110

Gramps

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I want to see chip EV graphs too. But with the stats that lay out ranges, %'s, etc. by blind level. That's what this thread is really missing.

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02-08-2013 , 01:26 AM

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Zima421

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i would like to see paragraphs outlining the reads you have on the following hyper players:

riverprayer

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02-08-2013 , 01:54 AM

#1112

debacle

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I want to see graph comparing AWice's volume past two days with MO's.

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02-08-2013 , 02:01 AM

#1113

p2 dog, p2

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Hey guys btw what could I do to make this thread better?

Post nudes, I'm horny

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02-08-2013 , 02:08 AM

#1114

Gramps

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Originally Posted by Zima421

i would like to see paragraphs outlining the reads you have on the following hyper players:

riverprayer

Folds too much, calls way too many pushes obv.

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02-08-2013 , 03:05 AM

#1115

gamboneee

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

I think the BB graph guy meant Cev graph though. Funny cause with AW's abi the Cev graph could look similar to the $ev graph. I mean the 500s are 1 dollar per chip :O

could look, maybe. last part doesnt graph that simple im sure you know

next writeup new goals and reasons for changing could be good too

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02-08-2013 , 03:36 AM

#1116

eh777

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Originally Posted by LTT777

Yeah thanks that's what I mean

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02-08-2013 , 03:36 AM

#1117

eh777

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Just any graphs would be nice atm, give us something

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02-08-2013 , 03:52 AM

#1118

debacle

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OP: Pics pls

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02-08-2013 , 11:47 AM

#1119

juicestain100

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What kind of car/cars do you drive? legit question.

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02-08-2013 , 11:59 AM

#1120

michty6

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I'd like to see your reads on all the players you play with the most often (but only the ones that see this thread), complete stats across all blind levels/positions, videos of you instructing people how to play these games, for you to send me some free money every now and then and also for you to take over my account to grind me up one VPP level.

I don't think I'm asking for much but these are all things that I consider absolutely necessary in a thread on a free poker discussion forum. Otherwise the thread is just pointless...

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02-08-2013 , 12:19 PM

#1121

streetwalkincheeta

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^^^^^^^^
Yeah when attempting to do something really tough that hasn't been done before you owe us readers at least that. If you're not going to, why make a thread in the first place?

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02-08-2013 , 01:02 PM

#1122

grmbl

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Anybody know whats up with Mouldy since februari? He didn't play the first couple of days and the last two days a very low volume (3 and 8 games a day). I know he had computer problems at the end of january so maybe he has them again?