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12-27-2012 , 02:57 PM
**** Rick Ross, but good luck with your challenge.
12-27-2012 , 03:02 PM
Subbed how the hell your going to do this is beyond me. Very sick. I wish you all the luck and this is going to be epic.

Gl

UnitedAs1
12-27-2012 , 03:58 PM
such a dumb idea

try to actually get good at poker so you can win a million not counting rakeback

you will end depressed and pissed off about wasting a year of your life because of "money over everything" and other stupid BS like that.
12-27-2012 , 04:02 PM
looool at guy who is telling someone who plays and wins pre rb on HS hypers to get good at poker
12-27-2012 , 04:13 PM
Gl sicko

All the best.
12-27-2012 , 04:38 PM
Damn will be so crazy to follow!
GL man!
12-27-2012 , 04:44 PM
This will be crazy! GL
12-27-2012 , 04:51 PM
i don't think you will need any luck the way you are approaching this, but gl anyway!
12-27-2012 , 05:06 PM
sick goal, gl
12-27-2012 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pontylad #MillionClub - It ain't cheese if it's less than a mil'
I worry about how likely you are to succeed when you have to do psychological things like keep x buy ins online. Compare that to the $50k-$100k downswings you are likely to get at some point and it's going to be interesting to see how you cope. either way gl.
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Originally Posted by jdawg91 #MillionClub - It ain't cheese if it's less than a mil'
Doubt Awice isn't prepared for a 100k downswing
Him and I ready for the swiiiiiiiiings
I think there are two points that you have entangled.
1. Psychological effect of keeping x buyins online is a poor reason
2. Ability to handle big downswing is seriously in question

I feel that #1 is a weak point and #2 is a legitimate point.

With #1, it's not just for psychological reasons, there are practical reasons. On any given day no matter what the result, I can never be in a position where I am not overrolled for a game. Because I have to play every day. And because if I am not overrolled, then there is some legit risk of busting my account, and it is hard/clumsy to deposit a lot at a time (maybe you need a bank wire or something, I've only ever deposited with CC.) Realistically I don't want to deposit a lot / find it hard to deposit and that's part of the reason why it is a psychological advantage for me.

With #2, I have never had a big downswing. Even playing HSMTTs in the past where I would "downswing" big, that wasn't playing on my own. Maybe jdawg is ready for a 100k downer but I honestly don't know if I am considering its 100% my money and considering it's never happened. My hope is that I win enough by then that it isn't so bad.

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Originally Posted by B3RTstare #MillionClub - It ain't cheese if it's less than a mil'
I don't think it's worth your time to learn sats. The competition is much tougher there imo.
I think its not that much tougher wrt the stake, but I think it also requires a lot of effort to study. (Obviously the higher the stake, the tougher the game is)

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Originally Posted by Two SHAE #MillionClub - It ain't cheese if it's less than a mil'
such a dumb idea
try to actually get good at poker so you can win a million not counting rakeback
you will end depressed and pissed off about wasting a year of your life because of "money over everything" and other stupid BS like that.
I feel there are 3 separate points you made:
  • Real poker allows you to win 1m w/o rb
This is the most resonating point. You are correct, but this is just the way the cookie crumbled. On Jan 1st 2012 I would have eg. played MTTs if I had more money, and cash games if I had slightly more money, but I didn't have enough to spread onto X different sites as necessary. Realistically, SNGs were the best option in terms of making money, that's why I played SNGs (which at the time I knew 0 about) rather than MTTs or Cash (which I knew way more about.) I headed down this SNG road long enough that I am sort of stuck in it. There is a cost to learning new games.
  • Hyper SNGs are an inferior flavor of poker
This is just something we have to agree to disagree. If PLO is the game, I will play PLO. Or 5 card plo, or open face chinese, or poker with 1bb stacks, or whatever. I just happen to play the game I feel I can win the most at. I don't think any game is intrinsically more or less stupid than another, I think they are all pretty stupid.
  • Wasting a year of your life
I agree that this goal isn't ideal, and it is a poor choice at best for things like being happy and etc. So it is in fact "wasting one's life." I don't really have a response to this point but I agree in the sense that you mean it in.

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Originally Posted by All
gl
Thanks guys, it means a lot

Last edited by Alex Wice; 12-27-2012 at 05:29 PM.
12-27-2012 , 05:31 PM
I think the likelihood of you not experiencing a 50k+ swing during this challenge is almost non-existent, and you're probably still an underdog to never have a 100k+ swing, so you should prepare for that .

Any more info on the videogame? Got a kickstarter or something?

GL with this
12-27-2012 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg #MillionClub - It ain't cheese if it's less than a mil'
I think the likelihood of you not experiencing a 50k+ swing during this challenge is almost non-existent, and you're probably still an underdog to never have a 100k+ swing, so you should prepare for that .

Any more info on the videogame? Got a kickstarter or something?

GL with this
Thanks, I know these risks and I have run sims. -.-;;

No info on the videogame, sorry -- not really allowed to say anything on it. I intend for it to be extremely popular. The closest thing like it in terms of core gameplay is probably Sirlin's "Codex" game [but his game is intended basically only for hardcore players, and probably won't have the sort of "rounding" necessary to be a super popular game.]

I initially thought we would do a kickstarter after a meeting a long time ago. After review, I agree with the team and our inclination is that we won't do it (costs [there are many indirect ones] outweigh benefits) but that we will also review that decision in a few months.

If you are really interested in eg. being a beta tester, maybe email me [alexwice at gmail]. There will be a beta in stages (eg. stage 1 100 people, stage 2 1000 people, stage 3 10000 people.) But even stage 1 won't happen for something like 4-12 months (depends how fast other people work on it which I don't know. I wanted to say 6 months but these things are often slower than they seem they should be. Sometimes I get surprised too though.)
12-27-2012 , 05:55 PM
Maximum respect 4 u if u can pull this off! I truly believe this is humanly impossible but human limits are broken every now and then and you speak logic in every post so I will def be rooting for u. Esp since it doesn't look like there's any action on this

I wud lead the charge for an official A Wice day to be incorporated on the day u finish this if u do manage to. GLGL

Also, somebody asked about expected ROI/hourly. You must have calculated it all out. Cud u give us a rough estimate assuming all works out?

Last edited by Donkab0mber; 12-27-2012 at 06:03 PM.
12-27-2012 , 06:11 PM
GL, probably very interesting to follow your progress
12-27-2012 , 06:37 PM
Sick, will be following for sure, but I think you will reach your goals, given how you represent your mental image.

Last edited by 7595; 12-27-2012 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Goodluck!
12-27-2012 , 06:42 PM
Did anything end up happening with that phantom game?
12-27-2012 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ibavly #MillionClub - It ain't cheese if it's less than a mil'
Did anything end up happening with that phantom game?
Haha, "phantom" was/is still actually a good idea but a 5 man team [especially with money] is much better than a 1 man show. I'm suprised you remember, that was just some random idea I had many years ago.
12-27-2012 , 07:06 PM
lol this is crazy

subbed

Good luck!!
12-27-2012 , 07:16 PM
This has got to be impossible and unhealthy
12-27-2012 , 07:26 PM
sick, when do you think you will reach SN in 2013? in the first week for sure right :P?
12-27-2012 , 07:28 PM
How many hours/day is this ?

GL but I think this is insane and imo a bad idea, and extremely bad for both your physical and mental health. Money isn't worth that much.

I mean obv you're not going to not do it because some random people on 2p2 tell you it's a bad idea, but yeah.

Anyways, GL if you do go through with it.

Last edited by Klakteuh; 12-27-2012 at 07:35 PM.
12-27-2012 , 07:30 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but how many sngs do you think you'll have to play to reach 8m VPPs? Are you going to play 6m Hypers exclusively?
12-27-2012 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyFoldICM #MillionClub - It ain't cheese if it's less than a mil'
sick, when do you think you will reach SN in 2013? in the first week for sure right :P?
If he is going for 1m in January, as he stated, he should hit SN in about 3 days
12-27-2012 , 08:30 PM
I am prepared and waiting for a 100k (pre rb) downswing once $300 6m hts are released....you should join that club with me
12-27-2012 , 09:25 PM
glgl OP.

^100k downswing club would be legit.

      
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