Well yeah, it goes both ways.

From Alex earlier- "At EPT Deauville when I didn't tip on 450k I got harassed many times, and many months later. That's my choice though."

Were you harassed by the casino/organisers after or just by other people? Interested in this because I know Timex felt he was totally pressured into giving like 15k as a tip on his win in EPT munich- seemed really shady to me considering he was pretty young and management obviously felt they could squeeze a lot there. Agree with the view on tipping- never quite understood some of the tipping in a casino that has millions of dollars in revenue a year (ie feels more like a corporation and impersonal- thats just me tho).

Playing poker and running a business are two completely different skillsets. The main difference, which I think is a fault of the majority of poker players, is that you have to do **** when you don't want to do it. In poker, you can just take days off randomly, wake up whenever you want, work some hours here and there, basically work whenever you feel like it and still be very successful. If you bring that same attitude to running a business, it's going to fail close to 100% of the time. You have to wake up and bust your ass on days when there's nothing you would hate doing more. This is why I would choose an Ivy league college grad over a random "successful" poker player(What does this even mean? Like how much money needs to be made to be qualified as successful? It's not that hard to make a living player poker). Someone who graduated from an Ivy league college has already shown the ability to do **** they don't want to do. They've woken up for classes when they didn't want to, written papers when they didn't want to, worked with other people at some point or another, and have shown the ability to balance their time. All this over a period of at least 4 years. You need a decent idea to start a business, but it's alot more about the amount of work you put into it than "figuring things out" imo, and graduating from an Ivy league school shows more of that than being successful at poker.

This thread is cool. Life is cool. Everyone in this thread can do cool things. Lets all do cool things.

Yeh I do agree poker players tend to think they can conquer other avenues easier then expected, but I still think someone like Alex is way ahead of the curve for 20 somethings coming out of with high level educations

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Highly successful poker players aren't as lazy as they seem - if you're capable of making say 120/hr+ in todays games it takes alot of dedication and hard work to get to that level........there's just so many skills in poker that can't be duplicated in the classroom that kids coming out of school are clueless about. How would a college grad understand what his or her edge is in a specific field? How would a college grad understand that results aren't always correlated with correct decision making? Say I have a business and run into a huge road block on a project - can the college grad think outside the box? I mean maybe they can but high level poker players must "think outside the box" against high level talent where they have 30 seconds to make a decision for thousands of dollars. Frankly I don't think this is even a comparison but to each their own.

Being a lazy poker player was so 3 years ago.

haha. What a great outlook.

120/hr? That is your definition of a successful player? You realize that's probably like less than 5% of professionals. Then compare that to the top 5% of students coming out of IVY league schools... really? You'd take a random poker player from that group over a random top 5% student from an IVY league school if you needed a partner to start a business?

Wait I didn't even realise how stupid that comment was, I thought you were saying random people, not random IVY league graduates.

Yes I'd absolutely take an IVY league graduate over an arrogant poker player like yourself, that thinks dropping out of school and teaching himself poker makes him more qualified than a graduate from an IVY league school.

They taught themselves poker, they must be geniuses at business.

What's a college graduation when you've taught yourself how to win at a game, clearly poker players are actually the smartest people of all people, let alone college graduates.

by dealers and whatever, not by players, like oh theres the guy that won 0.5m and didnt tip. but only a very specific subset of dealers (small and local)

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I can't say I'd be tipping in a tournament, in a cash game... Not a tournament.

But we have a very different view on tipping in England.

One of the many reasons why I hate live poker ... extra charge here here and here blah blah blah. And I wonder if that money actually reach dealers at the end in some cases ...

Hey guys btw what could I do to make this thread better?

free money?

To make this thread better... daily/weekly updates on progress example: Number of games, VPP's for the day, If you on pace, etc.

Ya things are starting to look good, I may do freerolls in this thread soon

Okay I was doing a blog every monday, I know last monday I skipped it. I will try to have an update every wednesday and saturday with # of games and graphs and stuff.

I can also answer questions more often, the pace has sort of changed

ofc, but we were talking about poker and business.

What do you mean? You play less?
If so why? Less motivated? Dropped down in buyins and because of that less motivated? Won a bunch of money back and will take it easy for some time now?
Care to explain im curious!

Games aren't as frequent with the new changes and higher stakes games.