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Petals Around The Rose
January 21st, 2013

Threes and fives. That's what I saw when I woke up this morning, and immediately started playing. A 6 swing in the first hour, and then back to even. Woosh. With stakes like these now a reality, elite regs come out of the woodwork. For them, twos are too low to bother. Fives pique their interest -- a $500 tournament that lasts 20 hands can be a source of tremendous profit, but you'd have to squeeze every drop of value out of those hands.

I had to stop and evaluate. How much did I have to put up? Maybe 100ish. How much downswing time could that buy me? Before I got back into the black this year, I withstood a 60 prerb downswing, running very, very below. I ran 22 below on the worst such day and I ran 10 below yesterday. And yet through all of that, I recovered sharply. However, how much was that in petals land -- and was I ready? I started getting ready.

There was no option. If threes and fives were a reality, then the volume available at twos diminishes. It makes it mandatory to play higher to recapture that volume. At the same time, my earning potential could be higher. But only if I became an even better reg. Winnings are not equally distributed. At a table of 5 regs, the elite reg wins the majority of the money. As the stakes increased, competition did too. Those positions were now being contested sharply.

The day had me re-evaluate. In many ways, I feel renewed, that this is a new race, with a different goal. Now, instead of volume being the motive, skill was. It pushed me to pursue studying holdem deeply. Before, my goal was a classical approach: apply "the solution" to the game in great volume. Now, my goal is a more modern one: realize that no one understands the game and try to understand it better than everyone else. Win at nosebleed stakes, with low volume and high winrate. Study the important subgames of the format very deeply; beyond a superficial level. Try to exploit as much as possible. And get back to playing a lot every day, regardless of results.

The key moment is when I really tried. And then I began to notice things. One hand in particular that I played, I think is a completely standard hand at any other limit. But I realized it was actually theoretically awful. In a one, this was standard and the best line. In a five, this was completely unacceptable -- precisely because people would notice and attack. And it really stuck with me, all these glaring weaknesses I could spot in my game when measured under an elite lens.

Here, theory mattered; and players, especially elite players, seemed to find much more poker to play than the typical regs, even with the shortest of stack sizes. Nash play seemed to be heralded, even in minraised and limped pots. The time for guessing was over. I actually needed to know how to play every spot optimally. And I needed to know right now.

I decided to study hard. Then, refresh by watching the leafs game (home opener) with my friends. It was sorely needed. Beforehand, over coffee, I overheard someone chitchatting with another: "...won big on the leafs last time. $250." At that point I realized, my world had actually changed. The units in my life were and became thousands, not ones. We are not the same, I am a martian.

There's no turning back. Before, I was ready to put 50 over the line. Now, the stakes are even higher. 100 is going over the line. Maybe for an established regular, this would be modest. For me, its everything I can put up for poker. If I lost more than 100 at fives and threes, I would have to drop down to twos. Daily swings of 10 might be common. And anything can happen.

I'm ready. I want the title. It's my money, and I want it now. Bay bay, AY. GET THAT MONEY, GO.

AW

I confess I didn't understand a single word on this post. GL with your English next time.

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01-22-2013 , 05:25 PM

#802

JMKPUNTER

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Martians drive Phantoms, not ghey baby blue cars.

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01-22-2013 , 05:48 PM

#803

simpledude16

grinder

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you may or may not be ******ed

gonna lean towards ******

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01-22-2013 , 05:54 PM

#804

stanski

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Awice on trying to make his life into a bad dramatic novel, pretty sure stars put in nosebleed stakes "threes and fives" just as a fatality for his bankroll.

In b4 busto and finding some other idiots to invest in him.

Drink a ****in beer and get some hookers dude, seriously relaxxx man.

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01-22-2013 , 05:59 PM

#805

slayerv1fan

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Originally Posted by stanski

Drink a ****in beer and get some hookers dude, seriously relaxxx man.

(hifive) to that. Take a vacation to mexico Alex and we can be knee deep in hookers (sun)

Me, Ruse and oct_c (all pictured obv) will take u to the right places

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01-22-2013 , 09:38 PM

#806

MickyPearce

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Originally Posted by simpledude16

you may or may not be ******ed

gonna lean towards ******

Dude, never go full ******!

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01-22-2013 , 11:44 PM

#807

Camzace

old hand

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Originally Posted by Rufus the Jew

$300 and $500 SNG's are considered nosebleed stakes?

gl anyways op

Assuming an even split and 50 games an hour (which is 9-10 tabling), that's $20k in buyins per hour. Might not be nosebleed but its pretty freaking high.

GL OP, **** these frat boy coolest-kid-on-the-playground idiots. Keep doing what you're doing. Am finding this to be a very interesting read.

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01-23-2013 , 12:39 AM

#808

tyler11

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Originally Posted by Camzace

I agree I have been enjoying this thread as well. Good luck to you man!

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01-23-2013 , 12:46 AM

#809

IsaacAsimov

old hand

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Still no update on the setup yet? I would like to know what mouse you are using?

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01-23-2013 , 12:47 AM

#810

Rocky-PN

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Originally Posted by Yazzx

Yes... ;o

Take a look at the nick of the guy who asked

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01-23-2013 , 01:02 AM

#811

Yazzx

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Originally Posted by Rocky-PN

Take a look at the nick of the guy who asked

Rofl, didn't see that.

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01-23-2013 , 02:26 AM

#812

147_star

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Originally Posted by Alex Wice

I like to think that you had this script written down on draft paper and then used Siri to upload it, making sure to make the correct intonations at the dramatic parts for full effect.

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01-23-2013 , 05:34 AM

#813

MrHoliday

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Still wishing you best of luck Awice, wont even pretend to have a faintest clue what it is like to deal with these types of downswings and to play at the highest level possible against probably the best in these games.

Just update as much as you can, it is a fun read

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01-23-2013 , 05:41 AM

#814

babyduck

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Keep posting! Best of luck!

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01-23-2013 , 09:35 AM

#815

D3nBr0

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Great read! Good luck!

Hopefully u will reach ur epic Goal! Subed.

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01-23-2013 , 12:21 PM

#816

GutPunch

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great thread, i hope you keep it updated throughout the year!

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01-23-2013 , 12:43 PM

#817

realeyezImno1

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Originally Posted by jdawg91

(hifive) to that. Take a vacation to mexico Alex and we can be knee deep in hookers (sun)

Me, Ruse and oct_c (all pictured obv) will take u to the right places

Is that Arron Rodgers on the left?

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01-23-2013 , 12:46 PM

#818

OMGsuperstaR

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Originally Posted by realeyezImno1

Is that Arron Rodgers on the left?

yeah! right after he lost to the 49ers, he went straight to mehicoooo to party hard

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01-23-2013 , 12:55 PM

#819

Zaerdy

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7

Don't know why people hating on Alez last post but I really enjoyed reading it.

Keep posting OP et GL @ the tables.

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01-23-2013 , 01:20 PM

#820

islander32

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 345

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Originally Posted by Zaerdy

Don't know why people hating on Alez last post but I really enjoyed reading it.

Keep posting OP et GL @ the tables.

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01-23-2013 , 01:53 PM

#821

Gramps

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Originally Posted by realeyezImno1

Is that Arron Rodgers on the left?

Lynn Dickey is looking pretty good these days.

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01-23-2013 , 02:26 PM

#822

WhiteRabbito

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Originally Posted by Zaerdy

Don't know why people hating on Alez last post but I really enjoyed reading it.

Keep posting OP et GL @ the tables.

+1

Well put. I enjoy your writing Alex, and this thread.

I hope your foray into threes and fives is met with a wicked heater.

GL.

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01-23-2013 , 03:40 PM

#823

Barry Urinstein

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Funny how that post provides nothing of interest for anyone "railing" this challenge. Once you get through the super thick layers of pretense you realize there's nothing there.
Oh, but good for him he actually has obtained friends now!

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01-23-2013 , 03:56 PM

#824

Two SHAE

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,242

Lol it's funny, early in this thread I posted he should focus on skill rather than being another 40 tabling idiot and he scoffed at me, and it's only January 23rd and he is listening now.

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01-23-2013 , 04:01 PM

#825

ONLYRAISEAA

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Originally Posted by Two SHAE

Lol it's funny, early in this thread I posted he should focus on skill rather than being another 40 tabling idiot and he scoffed at me, and it's only January 23rd and he is listening now.

pretty sure I'm wasting my time as you're just a troll anyways...

as changes are made one should always reconsider plans and try to get max value out of what is offered. listening to you, yeah sure. no doubt you knew about the changes coming.

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