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03-21-2021 , 11:40 AM
Hi there

About me :

Im Tomas from Slovakia, so because of that - please forgive me my spelling errors, but I am not a native speaker. Im playing midstakes plo - 50bb - on apps.
I decided to open blog/ challange due to motivate myself to keep working on my game. Mentally i feel really well right now, but my results are far from expected. I am part of great staking company, which offers really good care, psychologists, coaching from better playes, solvers, etc. But sometimes i struggle to fully explore my resources, because it is better to watch hockey game ( Go leafs !) or chill out.
I will keep posting every Sunday with weekly results.


Game :

I've been playing for few years. Right now mostly plo400.

my resulsts from past 7 moths :

https://imgur.com/cjmG0Pz

luckily staking co provide me RB with avg rate of 40% https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/i...ilies/grin.gif

graph from plo 400 :

https://postimg.cc/9rLwXf0m

as u can see i experienced a small downswing out there. Probably my game was also not the best, but im here to change it !

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This month so fare :

https://postimg.cc/DWMcSgzz

https://postimg.cc/QV5qMcZX


Goal :

Double my long time winrate on plo400. Keep working with solver at least few hours a week!

Hand of the week :

https://imageupload.io/kXYZvM0LAV.i


hand against fish 65/35 with very tight 3b, so decided to raise the turn to protect my hand from cards completing any draw on river, but expected that hand in my opponents range. Would u play the same line?

Have a nice week guys! See you soon!
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03-21-2021 , 11:45 AM
I struggle to add pictures here using option "insert Image". Hovewer when I leave same link withou "img" at the very begging and very end, you can click on link and check the pictures.

Any ideas?
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03-30-2021 , 07:56 AM
Hello there!

another week im figting with variance. For sure it is not on my side.

Game :



Played 5k hands, with great ev, but of course it is small sample, so nothing to write home about.

even no hands to mention.

Shortterm goal :


i have analyzed my database with better player and my coach, and we found out that i play too much Hu and 3handed, where im b/e player. But i like to compete in these formats, so probably should avoid it.

Have you ever checked your results based on game format? if eys, please give some advises to me!

have a good week!


PS. Now i figured out how to paste images, so im proud of thath!
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03-30-2021 , 10:13 AM
So you experienced a 4000 bb downswing while only sitting in with 50 bb. That's fairly rough...
What does it mean to play on apps? You use a tablet? It can't be easy to multitable. Can't you access those games on your desktop? And I guess you play in weird sites like not in pokerstars?
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03-30-2021 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wannabe2700
So you experienced a 4000 bb downswing while only sitting in with 50 bb. That's fairly rough...
What does it mean to play on apps? You use a tablet? It can't be easy to multitable. Can't you access those games on your desktop? And I guess you play in weird sites like not in pokerstars?
Yes, it wa tough.

On apps like PPPpoker, they allow you to play on destop, and have a Windows app.

I do not play at stars at all. It is much higher level there and i would like to explore games with fishs🤪
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03-31-2021 , 07:00 AM
Nice EV adjusted winrate for the last 5k hands, I'm glad your work starts paying off.

As a reminder, I would like to post here your graph from last summer (PLO200 only if I recall correctly):



Time to do it again

You can post your PLO400 graph from the last autumn, it was impressive as well. Good luck

B


PS. I run the staking company he mentioned. I'm here to help him build his brand. He's good
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04-04-2021 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BCQ

You can post your PLO400 graph from the last autumn, it was impressive as well. Good luck

PS. I run the staking company he mentioned. I'm here to help him build his brand. He's good

ok, here you are




a bunch of good tables were running then, even thought usually winter is time for squeeze your winrate


I started again pretty rough, bunch under ev, but still fighting.
Recently i'm working more with psychologist about focusing on long term goals more than short terms. But anyway i have in my mind, that winrate should be doubled in near future.

I am spending more and more in solvers. I used to hate solvers plain work, but now i find it pretty interesting. Everybody is working now hard in these type of software, so based on that i am putting more pressure on healhty life like dicrease amount of beer, more exercises and stretching everyday.
I hope that it will percent by percent build my edge on tables.

About lossing concetration, especially during long session, i found out that dark chocolate could boost focus and try to eat it with little bit of honey and almonds.

Spring in Slovakia, less hockey, but nice weather to go for a walk or choose a bike instead of drinking beers in dark basement.
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04-08-2021 , 12:52 PM
So far, so bad::P.

running under ev still, but i have positive attitude, that it will change really soon.

funny hand - plo200 -300b



unknown fish. Have u ever considered calling there having in mind that it is 3b pot, and blocking some part of st8s with 5?
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04-09-2021 , 10:37 PM
Hello there,


flat, but swingy month so far. I played bunch of plo200, because there were great tables. Lot of loose passive fishes, so the best combo




Ev bb approximately 1 is not the best result, but still lot of coolers and bad beats, but what can we do?




still working a lot with psychologist to leave out beeing result oriented, and focus more on decision.

Recently we have tried new tricks/tasks to boost concentration, because unfortunately in my case, im loosing concentration very quickly and im thinking about everything but not about a game. So i stopped even listen to music, podcasts and all that stuff during session.

Do u have maybe some advices how to be focused for longer time during game and maintaining A/ B+ game ?

cheers!
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04-10-2021 , 03:46 AM
i would start with making breaks more often... during breaks, open window, take deep breaths and then you can continue you will get a lot of new energy and fresh oxygen
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04-10-2021 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thefish123
i would start with making breaks more often... during breaks, open window, take deep breaths and then you can continue you will get a lot of new energy and fresh oxygen
Great. Thanks. I will try.

Have u ever tried some special breathing exercise or just lets say „normal” breathing?
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04-11-2021 , 10:22 AM
Another crazy session behind me.




I tried break after 2 hours of playin but i have probably other problem.
When i see good tables, so it is not easy for me to sit out from table.
I want to play more and more, to bust the fish on table.

Have you ever experienced some king of struggle like me? That u had assumptions for example for 2 hours session -> then break, and ended up with 6 hours session?

please share your experience. Wish you profitable week! Cheers
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04-26-2021 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TomasSlovanBratis
Another crazy session behind me.

Have you ever experienced some king of struggle like me? That u had assumptions for example for 2 hours session -> then break, and ended up with 6 hours session?
Seriously, no advices?

This month is not going good so far. A lot of coolers, running slightly under ev. The good thing is, that i have good RB. So based on that, i will end up profitable...probably



i've layed almost 30k, so few hours left, because my normal target is to reach 100h a month.

To bust my confidence a little bit i played bunch on plo200. I found out, that i
like to look for good bluff catch spots on the river. But they have all the time.

Plan for may reamins the same. 100 hours of grind, smaller amount of tables. Hope for some feedback about my last question and how do you find motivation, when the wheater outside is getting sunny ?
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04-26-2021 , 05:51 PM
Nice results! I guess when you're playing on good tables and you're playing your A game it's fine to not take a break. Can't comment on the PLO related stuff though because I don't play it (yet). What's your biggest downswing in terms of buyins been in PLO?
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04-27-2021 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
Nice results! I guess when you're playing on good tables and you're playing your A game it's fine to not take a break. Can't comment on the PLO related stuff though because I don't play it (yet). What's your biggest downswing in terms of buyins been in PLO?

Thank for your Feedback. Do you think that you/ we can play A game for longer than 2-3 hours?

If we co consider 100 bb as a BI, so i was like 200 bi under ev one year. And if we are talking about loosing in row - so probably celowe to 100 BI, but it was before i started working with sport’s psychologist, so for sure i spazzed like 20-30 buyins. Or Even move.

Plo is funny game, but strong mental is recommended😀
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04-27-2021 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TomasSlovanBratis
Thank for your Feedback. Do you think that you/ we can play A game for longer than 2-3 hours?

If we co consider 100 bb as a BI, so i was like 200 bi under ev one year. And if we are talking about loosing in row - so probably celowe to 100 BI, but it was before i started working with sport’s psychologist, so for sure i spazzed like 20-30 buyins. Or Even move.

Plo is funny game, but strong mental is recommended😀
Guess it's different for everyone so I guess whenever you feel like you're slightly tilted or are starting to make suboptimal decisions just stop playing

Yeah it's really swingy and 200 bi below ev is insane, I'll stick to nlhe for now
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05-02-2021 , 10:22 AM
Hello there,

month is done, so i will post graph. Unfortunately profit almost only comes from rb.



working still hard, and think that things will change soon. I hope. I played bunch of plo200, due to lack of plo400 tables recently. Summer time is not the best to grind probably, but without any excuses i need to motivate myself to grind.

I started to taking a breaks, and it is really mile stone to boost my results. On app it is much more difficult, because there are not many tabling running around, so after break, you need to wait a half an our to join again from waiting list. But in longrun i think, that refreshing my brain will end up with bigger ev.



hand with agro fish. We do not block any of st8 cards, but how many of QJ, Q8 etc he should have if we consider range, which is potting the flop?


Call or crying fold ? please share with me!


Wish you a nice week, cheers
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05-05-2021 , 09:19 AM
Just fold, you don't have any of the straight cards and he could easily take that line with KQJ. It's really hard for him to not have showdown value there. Not many bluffs in his range.
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05-06-2021 , 06:36 AM
Hello guys,




one hand to analyze.

Passive fish opened from CO. Behind me Reg with 3b 4% and sqz 2%, so i decided to call, even though solver shows here a 3b, but due to tight CO range, i preferred to call.

And the rest is history, solver also calls hands like 4567 etc CO vs SB, so decided to rep 4, but maybe sizing was not the best? Or maybe u think that hand was played really bad and consider that like a spazz. Lets discuss!
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05-06-2021 , 08:47 AM
Damn wouldn't think 4567 rundowns are part of the sb flat call range vs any open. I always thought our rundowns that flat are at least to a Broadway and more of the flat calls would be bad KK/ Qq & JJ that can't 3bet, etc.

Side question: what do you do with a middling 3 card single suited rundown with an Ace high suit in the SB vs Co, for example A789, A567, A89T. I presume its going to mix between flat and 3bet?
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05-06-2021 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TomasSlovanBratis
Hello there,

month is done, so i will post graph. Unfortunately profit almost only comes from rb.



working still hard, and think that things will change soon. I hope. I played bunch of plo200, due to lack of plo400 tables recently. Summer time is not the best to grind probably, but without any excuses i need to motivate myself to grind.

I started to taking a breaks, and it is really mile stone to boost my results. On app it is much more difficult, because there are not many tabling running around, so after break, you need to wait a half an our to join again from waiting list. But in longrun i think, that refreshing my brain will end up with bigger ev.



hand with agro fish. We do not block any of st8 cards, but how many of QJ, Q8 etc he should have if we consider range, which is potting the flop?


Call or crying fold ? please share with me!


Wish you a nice week, cheers
I'm a novice in PLO, just switched from NL so take my review with a grain of salt and feel free to correct wherever you may feel I am wrong.

In the hand above I would say fold is a better option on the river considering we do not block any value and have negative blockers holding the missed nut flush draw cards. It still a close decision especially if you see villain over playing a bunch of two pairs, however I don't think it's usually done on this board texture and also with the 5 we block some of that combos. I'm definitely leaning to call most sets, even the lower ones (55) but since the decision is close anyway, would lean the deicison based on the side cards. Here not having a 6 or a 7 is a good thing but having the nfd blocker is not, so actually I change my mind and say just mix call and fold with this combo, still leaning a little bit towards folding slightly more than calling considering our TT region can call more often

I would also argue ATxx makes a great calldown too, probably better then the sets considering the blockers to top and second set?

Last edited by Ab.Bad; 05-06-2021 at 09:01 AM.
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05-06-2021 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ab.Bad
Damn wouldn't think 4567 rundowns are part of the sb flat call range vs any open. I always thought our rundowns that flat are at least to a Broadway and more of the flat calls would be bad KK/ Qq & JJ that can't 3bet, etc.

Side question: what do you do with a middling 3 card single suited rundown with an Ace high suit in the SB vs Co, for example A789, A567, A89T. I presume its going to mix between flat and 3bet?
It is a little bit due to rake. If rake increases than you should call less and 3b more. The same situation if you are plannin to play 50bb or shorter.

So hands u mentioned are on apps pretty always 3b
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05-06-2021 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ab.Bad
I'm a novice in PLO, just switched from NL so take my review with a grain of salt and feel free to correct wherever you may feel I am wrong.

In the hand above I would say fold is a better option on the river considering we do not block any value and have negative blockers holding the missed nut flush draw cards. It still a close decision especially if you see villain over playing a bunch of two pairs, however I don't think it's usually done on this board texture and also with the 5 we block some of that combos. I'm definitely leaning to call most sets, even the lower ones (55) but since the decision is close anyway, would lean the deicison based on the side cards. Here not having a 6 or a 7 is a good thing but having the nfd blocker is not, so actually I change my mind and say just mix call and fold with this combo, still leaning a little bit towards folding slightly more than calling considering our TT region can call more often

I would also argue ATxx makes a great calldown too, probably better then the sets considering the blockers to top and second set?
Basically it is pure fold due to reasons u typed first. No Q,J, 7 in our hand. And exactly - negative blockers.
You said that u are new in the game. If you would like to talk a little bit about PLO, just send me a priv messege, we can do session review or i can give u some tips and hints.

Cheers!
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05-07-2021 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TomasSlovanBratis
Basically it is pure fold due to reasons u typed first. No Q,J, 7 in our hand. And exactly - negative blockers.
You said that u are new in the game. If you would like to talk a little bit about PLO, just send me a priv messege, we can do session review or i can give u some tips and hints.

Cheers!
That's nice of you man. Thank you

Keep posting, will keep track of the thread good luck!
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05-09-2021 , 12:59 PM
thanks man!

another sick weekend's session. Really good looking tables on plo400, so i played few hours with small break between.





And i can emphasize that even if i lose good table due to break, and then need to wait a little bit to join in, it is worth to do small stop.

I have played almost 50h in May recently and made 10k rake, winnings are even, so unfortunately next month living like a RAKEBACK PRO

But i guess it is really important factor, in such a swingy game like PLO. I started to open more HU tables, when they are not running on plo400 and next week i will focus on Solver HU to build correct ranges as right now - more less- i am doing it by feel.

Wish u a good week, cheers !
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