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04-19-2022 , 08:24 PM
19/04



I had to go to my job today and I just got home at night so I was not able to put good volume, so I just played for some times and stopped when started feeling sleepy. I had a lot of weird spots in this session, specially this one with a full-house (and he had quads )

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Current Bankroll: $43,41
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04-22-2022 , 01:39 AM
21/04

NL2


today after a good session at NL2 I decided to took a shot at NL5 with one table to test myself and thank god eveything went pretty well. I think I'll keep playing at NL5 as long I'm over $50 as bankroll

NL5




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Current Bankroll: $55.97
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04-22-2022 , 06:27 AM
GL on nl5!

I don't think you'll have any problems if you don't create them yourself.
Just play your game.
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04-22-2022 , 09:14 AM
In my experience, only difference between 2nl and 5nl is the # of recs. Regs are at the same level imho. Probably even a bit more nitty, might not look like bc your overall success stats (flop cbet success for example) are gonna drop, but that´s just bc ranges are tighter to begin with. Winrate will drop for obv reasons, but nothing to be scared, make sure you play your A-game, and accept having to keep going up and down stakes is part of the game.
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04-23-2022 , 06:16 AM
22/04

NL5


a lot of tough spots in this session, I had the impression that people at these stake 3bet and check-raise more postflop, maybe I should start check-calling more instead of c-bet with that much frequency, I'll test that later and see what happens.

since I'm now under $50 I think I'll start playing NL2 a bit and maybe later I'll take another shot at NL5 again depending on my roll

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Current Bankroll: $49

Quote:
Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH
In my experience, only difference between 2nl and 5nl is the # of recs. Regs are at the same level imho. Probably even a bit more nitty, might not look like bc your overall success stats (flop cbet success for example) are gonna drop, but that´s just bc ranges are tighter to begin with. Winrate will drop for obv reasons, but nothing to be scared, make sure you play your A-game, and accept having to keep going up and down stakes is part of the game.
I agree about the # of recs, way less people doing blunders. about the win rate, the most of NL5 players are unknown to me, I have very few stats or notes on them so that is something that I believe will affect my win rate harshly
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Originally Posted by slyless
GL on nl5!

I don't think you'll have any problems if you don't create them yourself.
Just play your game.
I hope so man, thank you
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04-23-2022 , 09:06 PM
23/04



let's say that today really sucked lol. everything I tried didn't worked and villain always had the nuts, such a terrible day

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Current Bankroll: $37.44
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04-24-2022 , 08:46 AM
Im a simple man. If I see a dozen 1k hand sample graphs I stop reading bc those are totally irrelevant. Could you post your lifetime or yearly graphs instead? They are much more mouth watering and may keep me away from pornhub if they are super juicy.
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04-24-2022 , 10:01 AM


my yearly graph so far, win-rate less than 1bb/100
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04-24-2022 , 11:59 AM
Gotta get that red line up - learning pop tendencies would be your best time invested along with a bit of gto sim studying

I have my own thread, have a stream and do coaching as well | 50 hours for $1500 for micro players | 2 to 4 hours a week in the beginning | Within a year youd be crushing tf out of 100nl and shotting 200nl most likely. You can see my winrate is 4bb but Im 4 tabling zoom on stream and I **** around too much for the camera I can certainly do better haha

^^ oh so shameless plug but I need side money for these infections I keep getting from the brazil bitches
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04-24-2022 , 07:48 PM
24/04



a lot of ups and downs today, not a lot of big pots, just 3bets, flop battles and some random all-is here and there.

I think I'll start leaving the table only after having 200bb instead of 150bb like I'm currently doing. I think this will improve my win rate because there's a lot of situations where I have the nuts, villain have something strong enough to call anything and is deepstacked, but I'll make just 100bb at the max because that's my whole stack

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Current Bankroll: $38.23
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04-24-2022 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by theicebergslim
I think I'll start leaving the table only after having 200bb instead of 150bb like I'm currently doing. I think this will improve my win rate because there's a lot of situations where I have the nuts, villain have something strong enough to call anything and is deepstacked, but I'll make just 100bb at the max because that's my whole stack
Your logic here is good. But then why conclude 200 is the mark where you leave? You should never leave when deep. 300 to 400 bb pots holding nuts vs whales happens sometimes and you need to have the stacks for these instances. Leaving the tables when deep is a huge mindset leak.
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04-25-2022 , 02:08 AM
All the best at the tables Carlos
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04-25-2022 , 09:17 AM
Yeah, re losing redline, anything over 10 bb/100 in my experience is really detrimental to your winrate. At zoom this should be an even bigger concern as the play on average is tighter.

No real tip as it can have many causes. Only advice is to not really try to plug the redline, this can make things real messy. Instead, keep working more and more on making your game solid and improvements will come (eventually).

Actually another 2 tips. In my own case, I found I wasn´t value betting thin enough in spots where I should be doing it. Like, pool on average is more passive than they should, so this is the case quite often. I also paid a lot of attention to showdown and the (not so) hidden details, and checked my thought processes for contradictions. E.g. they´re uncapable of folding top pair when you´re bluffing doesn´t mean they aren´t dramatically overfolding, the opposite, as in many spots they should be calling way more than that. Or I can´t go bigger here with my value bc they never pay me off, but I can´t bluff bc they always call (totally flawed logic and yet this was a big punch in my face when I got it )
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04-25-2022 , 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
Your logic here is good. But then why conclude 200 is the mark where you leave? You should never leave when deep. 300 to 400 bb pots holding nuts vs whales happens sometimes and you need to have the stacks for these instances. Leaving the tables when deep is a huge mindset leak.
because I thought that the dinamic of the game would change and I don't have much experience playing with really deep stacks, but I think you might be right so I'll stop limiting my stack and see how things will work

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Originally Posted by muskymoomoo
All the best at the tables Carlos
thanks man

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Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH
Yeah, re losing redline, anything over 10 bb/100 in my experience is really detrimental to your winrate. At zoom this should be an even bigger concern as the play on average is tighter.

No real tip as it can have many causes. Only advice is to not really try to plug the redline, this can make things real messy. Instead, keep working more and more on making your game solid and improvements will come (eventually).

Actually another 2 tips. In my own case, I found I wasn´t value betting thin enough in spots where I should be doing it. Like, pool on average is more passive than they should, so this is the case quite often. I also paid a lot of attention to showdown and the (not so) hidden details, and checked my thought processes for contradictions. E.g. they´re uncapable of folding top pair when you´re bluffing doesn´t mean they aren´t dramatically overfolding, the opposite, as in many spots they should be calling way more than that. Or I can´t go bigger here with my value bc they never pay me off, but I can´t bluff bc they always call (totally flawed logic and yet this was a big punch in my face when I got it )
I would like to know a way to improve that red line, it's a ugly big hole on my winrate. I'm trying to take notes the best I can and is helping me a lot, each showdown is valuable info that can save me money on the future.
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04-26-2022 , 09:42 AM
Well, what makes a negative or positive redline is quite simple and obvious: folds before the showdown, by you or by your opponents

With that said, there are some spots you might start to look in your db trying to plug your overfolds:

BB defense relative to opening sizings you´re experiencing in game.
Defending against 3net/4bet/5bet
Postflop defense vs bets

And your aggression:

CBets
raise and x/r spots
Value betting
bluffs

Did you ever post your stats here (sorry if you did and I´m missing)? I´m not a specialist by any means but might be able to give my 2cents. The standard h2n popup is enough at first. You play 100% zoom right?
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04-26-2022 , 11:40 AM


I never posted the stats here before and I play 100% zoom, here they are
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04-26-2022 , 01:00 PM
Well, there is a clear problem with your fold to cbet stats, but I´ll come there later. Btw, as I´m not a specialist, just a uNL player who plays higher than you, struggled "a bit" over the years but is winning right now. Hopefully other ppl will come here and critique this as well.

You fold too much vs 3bets, esp from the steal positions, while you don´t even steal as often as you could get away with at the micros. Can´t say much about the BB without knowing the sizing ppl use. Your 3bet stat seems reasonable I guess, on the tighter side, but you´re still folding a bit too much vs 4bets. 4 bet range is a bit too tight, but no big opinions here.

Continuation bets, I´d like to see them separated if possible (IP vs OOP), you might be cbetting a bit too much on the flop just bc you x/f too much when you don´t cbet.

Fold to cbets absurdly high on the flop and absurdly low on the river. Won´t even say much about sizings bc even then it´s still completely unreasonable to be folding 62% overall, and only folding 26% on the river (either you´re too strong on the river bc you folded everything before, or with things like top pair, overpairs, and ending up calling them down even on bad boards). You donk 25% on the flop, so I guess on the big blind you´re fastplaying all your strong hands by donking them. Don´t like this approach, stop donking like a fish and play your value as checkraises (not saying to slowplay checkcalling at 2nl either, but your strategy as it is right now is terrible imho).

If you check range OOP from the BB when you defend, things will become better in no time I believe.

And please, do not spew when you checkraise. Have a reason when you do it. Remember you´ll be playing a stronger range when you´re there if you stop donking.




Other than everything I said above, try to slowly implement things like thin vbetting a bit more on the river, finding spots to bluff, your bet sizes, and your redline will probably improve (and a few of the leaks above might even be harming your blueline, so win win).

Can´t recommend many training sites, I use RIO and am very happy with it. FTGU by Peter Clarke is a good course I believe, many ppl did it (including myself), and said very good things about it afterwards. Plus you get a free 1 month Essential.




Hopefully other ppl will come to critique your stats and ofc innacuracies in what I said.

Last edited by FazendeiroBH; 04-26-2022 at 01:05 PM.
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04-28-2022 , 04:58 AM
You seem to fold too much , although stats are sample size dependent which means it can be variance for some part .

Guessing vs. 3-bets folding too much is a better starting point though than to call them too much for various reasons.

I suggest calling c-bets with hands you feel being close to you at the moment but which you would now be folding and doing the same with 3-bets.

Your c-bet stat with river fold is 100% unreliable due to the amount you were seeing 3-barrel in 40k h sample needs to be very low.

C-bet seems very normal and might even benefit c-betting more.

Good luck!
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04-29-2022 , 01:13 PM
thank you guys , your help is much apreciated . however I'm not sure if these pop up stats represent well how I'm playing now bc they are my lifetime stats and I don't know how to adjust to see only the stats of this year(I use h2note, if someone can give me a tip on how to adjust that), at the beggining I was putting a lot of volume playing way differently than how I'm doing now, so idk.

sorry about the lack of updates, I had to withdraw half of my roll for my personal expenses and just after that I took a pretty harsh downswing so I wasn't really in the mood to post here honestly.

some ppl say that it's okay to have a downward redline bc of the nature of my strategy and so on, but man that's ok to lose 2BI on a single day just on that? jeez

I'm trying to improve my redline by taking the max of notes I can to distinguish who are the guys that raise postflop with any two-cards from the guys that call a shove having low-pair, I believe this notes are helping me to avoid many stressful situations and helping me to win some pots also.

another thing that I'm doing now is playing deepstacked, which is working pretty well. there's always at least one crazy guy everyday that will shove on a situation where I have the nuts, so is good to be deepstacked on this moments. I was studying a bit about the adjustments on deepstacked game and it seems that almost anyone knows a lot about it, there's only a commom sense that most of the players follow but looks like no one knows things for sure.

anyway I'm doing some adjustments on my strat when I'm deep (+200bb) based on some of the arguments that made more sense for me, however any feedback is welcome.

adjust1: when Postflop, reduce the c-bet / bluff-raise frequency and increase the check-call
adjust2: Preflop, 3bet with a greater size when OOP
adjust3: be tighter when villain shove postflop and you have a good hand. (ex. having to fold TPTK on a spot that you would call the shove if had 100bb effective)

TODAY


THIS MONTH


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Current Bankroll: $16.01

Last edited by theicebergslim; 04-29-2022 at 01:18 PM.
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04-29-2022 , 06:56 PM


man, why I just didn't finished the day winning $4.98? lol
what a terrible session, take a look:

h1

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: $4.14 (207 bb)
MP: $1.78 (89 bb)
CO: $1.84 (92 bb)
BU: $1.99 (100 bb)
SB: $2.24 (112 bb)
BB (Hero): $2.25 (113 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A A
3 players fold, BTN calls $0.02, SB raises to $0.08, Hero 3-bets to $0.34, 1 fold, SB calls $0.26

Flop: ($0.70) J T 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.28, SB calls $0.28

Turn: ($1.26) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.76, SB raises to $1.62 (all-in), Hero calls $0.86

River: ($4.50) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.50 (Rake: $0.16)

Showdown:
SB shows 7 T (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 64%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) shows A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 80%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 36%, River: 0%)

SB wins $4.34

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h2

THE WORST KICK ON THE BALLS


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: $2.00 (100 bb)
MP: $1.99 (100 bb)
CO: $1.79 (90 bb)
BU: $2.00 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): $3.34 (167 bb)
BB: $2.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 9 9
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.06, Hero 3-bets to $0.24, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.50) 9 6 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.14, BTN raises to $0.52, Hero calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.54) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.24 (all-in), Hero calls $1.24

River: ($4.02) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.02 (Rake: $0.14)

Showdown:
BU shows J 5 (a straight, Two to Six)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 7%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) shows 9 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 93%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

BU wins $3.88

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h3

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: $4.14 (207 bb)
MP: $1.78 (89 bb)
CO: $1.84 (92 bb)
BU: $1.99 (100 bb)
SB: $2.24 (112 bb)
BB (Hero): $2.25 (113 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A A
3 players fold, BTN calls $0.02, SB raises to $0.08, Hero 3-bets to $0.34, 1 fold, SB calls $0.26

Flop: ($0.70) J T 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.28, SB calls $0.28

Turn: ($1.26) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.76, SB raises to $1.62 (all-in), Hero calls $0.86

River: ($4.50) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.50 (Rake: $0.16)

Showdown:
SB shows 7 T (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 64%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) shows A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 80%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 36%, River: 0%)

SB wins $4.34

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and these are only the big pots, my ass was being kicked similarly on smaller pots also like srps and 3bps. I still get amazed about how quickly you can win or lose money playing poker, more than 3 BI gone just by being unlucky on a short session

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Current Bankroll: $9.57
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05-05-2022 , 05:39 PM
whatsup guys, sorry about my lack of updates, my internet was cutted for lack of payment so I'll be some weeks without playing until a friend of mine borrow me some money to pay the bill, which will happen at the end of the month. It really suck that this happened exactly when my stake aggreement would start, which is frustrating as fuc*.

the good part is that I have a ton of poker content on my laptop to study, so at least is been a good opportunity to put some off table work, which I was not doing a lot before to be honest.

wish me luck guys, I'll see you again soon.
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05-10-2022 , 10:56 AM
hey guys, I have my internet back again, a friend of mine borrowed me some money to help me pay the bill. the problem is that I still had to use my bankroll to help me pay so now I'm $0 USD on pokerstars, but at least now I can study poker better and I'll also start my stake soon anyways so no big deal on being some days without playing just doing some off-table work reviewing my own game, it will be helpful for sure.

I'll see you guys again soon
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05-10-2022 , 03:13 PM
I am thinking ... a job , either in real world or online would help you to finance yourself a needed bankroll to start with poker likely way easier than by trying the impossible (surviving with nl2 income). Working at a warehouse or something is what I would suggest as unappealing as it may sound bcz pretty much any hourly is better than poker hourly if get started and have next to no capital .
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05-10-2022 , 03:17 PM
According to online a warehouse job pays 19 brazilian real / hour , this is 3.71 usd . If this is accurate information it sounds like an pretty good opportunity overall.
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05-10-2022 , 03:54 PM
the most of the low wage jobs here pay something between 260-280 usd per month, even as a vigilant on a warehouse, which is enough to pay the bills and having a beer on the weekends, the cost of living here is pretty low compared w europe or usa. I'll start working w a friend soon and things will get better for sure, I'll just keep myself studying everyday until there. thanks for caring dude
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