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Lost almost everything playing partycasino, time to regroup! Lost almost everything playing partycasino, time to regroup!

02-29-2012 , 09:50 AM
wow this is gonna be an epic thread. keep at it OP
02-29-2012 , 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gottago
great read!

I'm not a good player, never played as good or as high as you do, but thinking "hey I could make 50k in one month by JUST not tilting" should be a good motivation. Maybe print it out and stick it somewhere?

Or try this hud where it converts $ to BB.. so you see just the bigblinds you lose, not the amount of $.. nerver tried it, but maybe it helps?
Hehe wish it was that easy. Would probably write million papers on my wall then.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerman22
wow this is gonna be an epic thread. keep at it OP
Hehe that we will see, thanks for the compliment.

Think what I'm gonna do this month if I don't get any action bets against me is that I won't look at my monthly graph at all this month. All that I will keep my eye on is daily graph, I'll filter so I just see the day I'm playing on. This is do-able I think, but not looking the graph at all, now that is an impossible task. Would probably compare it to quitting smoking or something like that, it's just uber, uber hard so I'm not even going to try to go there. Also if there are no graphs it's more boring for you guys.

Another goal I have for this month is to hit my 7000 party points to reach 100,000 points, I think I need to rake around 3500$ for this so def. not that hard, but needs lot of work. Then I can purchase 20,000$ bonus which Is obv. nice.

Ok so no tilt, no spew, no ******ations, what else..!?

Lets go!!!
02-29-2012 , 08:41 PM
IMO your tilt is still out of control and taking prop bets might just give you MORE reason to tilt. What if you get 1k short of your goal then lose 5-10 BI, how are you going to react?
03-01-2012 , 03:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerGarden
IMO your tilt is still out of control and taking prop bets might just give you MORE reason to tilt. What if you get 1k short of your goal then lose 5-10 BI, how are you going to react?
Your words are probably true that it might increase the chance of tilting. Not that I'd be afraid being 1k short from hitting the goal, but the overall pressure I would have to win big constantly and might not react well to 20k losing days.
03-01-2012 , 09:13 PM
First day behind, it's safe to say I played top of my game today. My mindset was as good as its ever been and I feel motivated starting the month.

What I'm going to do this month is try to focus on my mindset every day really hard. Focus making the correct decisions and realizing the fact it's only a game. Keep my emotions away from tilting. No matter what the outcome is as long as I play good. I don't care dropping my bankroll if I play good. That's not very likely thing to happen though. Just to keep tilt away should do the magic... But will see!

I'll try to be posting results every day this month but not to look at the monthly statistics, if I don't post some days then I just skip those days here. After the month is finished I'll come with overall graph.

I have some nice thoughts in my head playing vs regs. Going to change my style a bit and see how it works, going to make it even more aggressive in position. I don't want to say exactly what is going on in my head but I'm going to bring the pressure on now more than ever!! Only long run will show if it's a good style to keep playing on or not.

Was a nice first day, 60-70% held more than once and that shows in profit.

03-01-2012 , 09:17 PM
idk if its comeup ITT, but just wondering if you've banned yourself from party casino? All sites will let you do that if you email them and say you have a casino gambling problem, I did it on ipoker and has saved me thousands :P. Having access to the casino is completely -ev.

Much respect for not giving up and trying to regroup, but it doesn't make your degen shots less degen, learn! GL op, keep crushin.
03-02-2012 , 01:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Breanne1
idk if its comeup ITT, but just wondering if you've banned yourself from party casino? All sites will let you do that if you email them and say you have a casino gambling problem, I did it on ipoker and has saved me thousands :P. Having access to the casino is completely -ev.

Much respect for not giving up and trying to regroup, but it doesn't make your degen shots less degen, learn! GL op, keep crushin.
Haha yeah there has been a question about this before. I e-mailed party and they gave me a message that they banned my casino games from the client but gave me a side note that that I still can access it from partycasino.com and they can't block me from playing there. Bastards!
03-02-2012 , 04:05 AM
I agree that not looking at your graph at all might help tremendously. clearly you can still tilt when just checking your acc balance but you don't physically see the swings, you just know your total monies. It's easier to think of the fact that you're still up a ton overall, rather then comparing your current balance to yesterdays, this mornings, or 10 hands ago.
03-02-2012 , 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerGarden
I agree that not looking at your graph at all might help tremendously. clearly you can still tilt when just checking your acc balance but you don't physically see the swings, you just know your total monies. It's easier to think of the fact that you're still up a ton overall, rather then comparing your current balance to yesterdays, this mornings, or 10 hands ago.
Looking at account balance is not a problem, since I have several different networks I'm playing at, although most hands I get at party due to regs.

Today didn't separate much from yesterday, good mindset, played good... finally reg outleveled himself!

PartyGaming - $20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $7,120.98
BB: $2,050.95

Hero posts SB $10.00, BB posts BB $20.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero has T J

Hero raises to $40.00, BB raises to $160.00, Hero calls $120.00

Flop: ($320.00, 2 players) 2 J 9
BB bets $200.00, Hero calls $200.00

Turn: ($720.00, 2 players) 3
BB bets $400.00, Hero raises to $6,760.98 and is all-in, BB calls $1,290.95 and is all-in

River: ($4101.90, 2 players) 2

I've been calling flops and shipping turns, with both tp and draws so I did it here again. Was a bit surprised what he called me with. It's true that I've shipped draws before but now there are only 3 hands that are drawing and they are QT/KT and 8T(which 8T) I probably wouldn't ship because don't have over card equity with it.

I've been playing with poker stove lately so let's see. He would need to have 31.4% equity for his call to be profitable. My widest possible range assuming I ship all hands on turn is: 33-22,KJs-KTs,QTs+,J8s+,AJo,KJo-KTo,QTo+,J9o+ and with these hands he would need 30.88% equity. So actually his call doesn't seem as bad as it looks.

Interesting.



Spoiler:
BB shows Q A (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 61%, Flop 25%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows T J (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (Pre 39%, Flop 75%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins $4,100.90


PartyGaming - $20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $5,195.93
SB: $2,471.01

SB posts SB $10.00, Hero posts BB $20.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero has A 8

SB raises to $50.00, Hero calls $30.00

Flop: ($100.00, 2 players) 9 4 A
Hero bets $74.25, SB raises to $235.00, Hero calls $160.75

Turn: ($570.00, 2 players) J
Hero checks, SB bets $409.00, Hero calls $409.00

River: ($1388.00, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, SB bets $1,270.00, Hero calls $1,270.00

I had been donking some hands and he had been raising time to time. It's unlikely if he raises me often that he has any kind of strong hand, and I've seen him just call me before with tp so I think he would only raise hands AK/AQ(not even sure if he raises 2p) for value, and all the rest are in his bluff range. Lot of missed draws and any kind of ****, also when the nine pairs on river I'm unsure if he would be willing to bet an ace anymore. I needed 1/3 for my call to be profitable and I thought on this board with these thoughts I may as well have and clicked the call button.

Spoiler:
SB shows 7 4 (Two Pair, Nines and Fours) (Pre 34%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows A 8 (Two Pair, Aces and Nines) (Pre 66%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins $3,927.00


Day:
03-03-2012 , 05:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cl500
I've been calling flops and shipping turns, with both tp and draws so I did it here again. Was a bit surprised what he called me with. It's true that I've shipped draws before but now there are only 3 hands that are drawing and they are QT/KT and 8T(which 8T) I probably wouldn't ship because don't have over card equity with it.
U always 4bet KQ?
03-03-2012 , 02:04 PM
Against some villains it's not that rare?
03-03-2012 , 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 113581321
U always 4bet KQ?
My bad, didn't count that for some reason. That makes his call even better then. The only reason 4betting KQ if your villain is shipping ultra light or if he is calling most of his range and not 5betting too much. But I still think it has more value with calling.

Lot of tough spots today, but I think I made the correct decision lot of the times. Was making numerous amounts of big folds that I don't normally make, and felt good about them. Sometimes it's just better trust your instincts and reads when you are used to snap call. And eventually I started getting the hands my way as well and was able to score a good day again.

This guy, whom I dropped 30,000$ before came to play me again at nl1k today. It was disgusting with him but I think I lost the absolute minimum on all hands vs him, and yet I was able to drop 2.7 buyins. If I didn't play as good as I did play I probably would have lost at least 4-6 buyins so I can call that a victory. Good thing with him is that when I make a tough fold, and if he is bluffing, he will show his hand. So every time when he mucks his hand I know I have made a good fold.

Today was kind of a day, if my mindset wasn't correct it would have had all the potential of tilting, but gladly, I have managed to keep my mind where it should be. Putting lot of thought into this seems to be working so far. I must remind myself to not give up and keep reminding myself constantly of what I need to focus on. What are the important things and what really matters.

When it comes to making good score, it usually all comes to numerous amount of thin situations that matters hugely in your overall results. And these decisions if you manage to work the right way there's no chance but to have a happy ending in long run. But if you are not that succesful with these then your results might be break-even or even slightly losing. The border where these thin decisions are good or bad is extremely small and sometimes it's hard to judge which would be the better play but might have +50bb/-50bb / hand effect on a single game. Sick ****.

03-04-2012 , 06:09 AM
Another day gone, was pretty depressing day. But once again I played very good and my mindset was top notch. Today I wasn't very fortunate and got lot of sick coolers to my way. But at least some of my reads were correct and managed to win some non-standard spots. Overall I'm happy with the day, could be down more so I don't care. Being on the red side isn't too nice though.

PartyGaming - $10 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $1,377.17
BB: $1,704.49

Hero posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $10.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero has K T

Hero raises to $20.00, BB calls $10.00

Flop: ($40.00, 2 players) 6 4 K
BB checks, Hero bets $29.25, BB raises to $84.50, Hero raises to $139.75, BB raises to $229.12, Hero calls $89.37

Turn: ($498.24, 2 players) 2
BB bets $370.00, Hero raises to $1,128.05 and is all-in, fold

Flop was pretty interesting, we had lot of raising going on, his check raise was nearing 20% so he def. has all draws/2pairs in his range. I've seen him once min4betting back to my min3bet on flop. Twice he had called and three times folded

I though the best line might be the call his min4bet on flop and ship to blank turn if he bets. The best case scenario for me is him to have a draw, so I have to protect my hand. If he had 2 pairs I'd be going bust anyway and folding to flushy rivers, that I don't want to do. Think it's a very tough spot on turn but I think ship is better, river would be too hard to play no matter what cards comes out.


Spoiler:
Hero wins $1,237.24


PartyGaming - $10 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $1,087.33
BB: $2,314.25

Hero posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $10.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero has J 6

Hero raises to $20.00, BB calls $10.00

Flop: ($40.00, 2 players) 4 9 2
BB checks, Hero bets $29.25, BB calls $29.25

Turn: ($98.50, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets $73.12, BB raises to $211.24, Hero calls $138.12

River: ($520.98, 2 players) A
BB bets $380.00, Hero calls $380.00

This was kind of timing level for me, it was the first time he raised turn but I took the same time betting than I did before with a draw and he noticed that. So I thought calling the turn bet and river if he bets. A is not a nice card though cause he might have A high flush draw but well, eh, **** happens then.

Spoiler:
BB shows Q T (High Card, Ace) (Pre 67%, Flop 78%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows J 6 (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 33%, Flop 22%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins $1,279.98


PartyGaming - $20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $2,147.75
Hero (SB): $2,541.99

Hero posts SB $10.00, BB posts BB $20.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero has J T

Hero raises to $40.00, BB raises to $140.00, Hero calls $100.00

Flop: ($280.00, 2 players) 7 6 T
BB bets $180.00, Hero calls $180.00

Turn: ($640.00, 2 players) J
BB bets $540.00, Hero raises to $2,221.99 and is all-in, BB calls $1,287.75 and is all-in

River: ($4295.50, 2 players) 3

This guy was a huge nit, maybe a fullring reg? I don't know. He wasn't 3 betting too much but he started to 3 bet a lot last 10 hands. I was practically fist pump shipping to get it in on turn and bust the guy. Playing nits is just so annoying!!!

Spoiler:
BB shows 9 8 (Straight, Jack High) (Pre 37%, Flop 96%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows J T (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens) (Pre 63%, Flop 4%, Turn 9%)
BB wins $4,294.50


PartyGaming - $10 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $1,819.30
SB: $1,197.20

SB posts SB $5.00, Hero posts BB $10.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero has 6 K

SB raises to $30.00, Hero raises to $100.00, SB calls $70.00

Flop: ($200.00, 2 players) 5 3 9
Hero bets $120.00, SB calls $120.00

Turn: ($440.00, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $240.00, SB calls $240.00

River: ($920.00, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $1,359.30 and is all-in, SB calls $737.20 and is all-in

This is just such an extraordinary hand that I wanted to post lol, it was against the same reg as the first two hands.

Spoiler:
Hero shows 6 K (Straight, Six High) (Pre 65%, Flop 56%, Turn 75%)
SB shows 6 7 (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 35%, Flop 44%, Turn 25%)
SB wins $2,393.40


03-06-2012 , 01:32 PM
Had a day off yesterday, played maybe 50 hands and quit down about 400 or so. Took my car and went to visit my parents few hours drive away. Met some old friends and neighbours and went to bowling and drinking afterwards so it was pretty cool day.

Now I drove back home, had a small hangover but managed to get back safely. Thought about grinding so I opened pokers but didn't feel that I was concentrated well enough at the beginning and lost few buyins, but most of it was just variance so the concentration part didn't matter too much. Took a small break and continued afterwards and did better then.

Mindset still being good, I'm trying this month not to play when I feel burnout and instead of playing just go somewhere and have fun. After that I'll return to grinds and feel fresh, think it's bigger EV than playing every day. Also life will feel better to do something once in a while. Poker needs a sick amount of dedication and it's the only way to do well, but it's important to still balance it somehow with life.

Too tired now after all the driving and stuff to go in any specific hands and analyze, although there would be some nice hands to discuss. Think all what I'm going to do is finish this post with a graph and go to bed. Good night all.

03-06-2012 , 01:45 PM
Hey! DO you have CL500 according to your nick, if you have could you post pics!
03-06-2012 , 02:21 PM
Sick. However you are fuc*king ******ed losing that much money but at least you didn't lose it playing poker. well let's hope you don't make the same mistake again.

but hey i dont have 300+k so who am i to judge.
03-06-2012 , 10:04 PM
fyp

03-07-2012 , 03:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PotentialEV
Hey! DO you have CL500 according to your nick, if you have could you post pics!
In fact I do, nice read. This is a picture I took from my car yesterday:




Quote:
Originally Posted by Scyth
Sick. However you are fuc*king ******ed losing that much money but at least you didn't lose it playing poker. well let's hope you don't make the same mistake again.

but hey i dont have 300+k so who am i to judge.
******ation might be your view of things, but maybe you should read a book about gambling addictions and you might enlighten yourself. For me, I feel it's more that than being ******ed, and I'm constantly trying to fight my way to channel my gambling habits to the right direction. Because if I didn't have my gambling addictions, I would never ever have been able to make this much money as I already have via poker and be in a position like you are right now.


Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerGarden
fyp

Looks sweet, thanks.
03-07-2012 , 04:17 PM
running 14k above ev and cc'ng rivers with second pairs on Axx after a CR+2barrel or a set on a river 4 straight vs a fish isnt running bad. you need better poker friends to tell you to calm down, its ok to put ppl on fd's sometimes but not every hand. Good poker friends should tell you that you've been playing like poop
03-07-2012 , 04:30 PM
Is it an AMG?
03-08-2012 , 02:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ...|...
running 14k above ev and cc'ng rivers with second pairs on Axx after a CR+2barrel or a set on a river 4 straight vs a fish isnt running bad. you need better poker friends to tell you to calm down, its ok to put ppl on fd's sometimes but not every hand. Good poker friends should tell you that you've been playing like poop
Of course I didn't say much but he is repping J3 which is very unlikely, AJ he would 3 bet pre most of the time, A3 is very unlikely as well, his 3bet is 25% and check raise over 20%, and even if he had AJ would he want to barrel it on AJ33x board since that 3 is lot in my range also and I'd be playing it the same way? And those are the only hands I'm behind, and even when I lose this he will not want to try to bluff me out of a hand in future since I ain't folding anything.

With 99 I get 1/4 pot odds to call on river which means he would only need to bluff the river 25% times. I think he has missed flush draws more than 25% in his range + he might turn hands like QT/KT/AT into a bluff. And he should be always betting the river since it's the perfect scare card. Also the Jack is a gutshot. He doesn't really have a lot of gutshot combos in his range that he would be calling two streets on a board like this. But when we talk about his bluff range, I think it's a lot wider than that.

Of course, a player like you should realize all of this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6 FEARS 7
Is it an AMG?
Thought about it but decided to get cl500, it's a bit cheaper and I don't see the edge for my environment in amg, even this is too powerful for Finland but I kind of took it for the looks, and the car is supper good to drive!
03-08-2012 , 05:33 AM
Forgot to mention that all of the hands are vs regs.

You might be right with the KK hand that might be bad, I think when his check raise is high I definitely should be checking the flop instead of betting. That would be the correct approach, if I happened to cbet and call his raise I think I need to call turn but fold river. Don't think he would be bluffing the river even when his value range is ultimately tight, at least not often enough. He might be bluffing it 1/20 times but def. not often enough for my call to be profitable. I think if he had a bad hand or a missed draw he would just give up on river.

But I still disagree with the 999 hand for the reasons above.

But next time you should give your own opinions why some certain play is bad, it doesn't really help that you just come here and say "Hey! You can't play it like that!!" It doesn't help anyone. You always must have reasoning for your arguments or your arguments are pointless.
03-08-2012 , 02:56 PM
lol you from finland? way to donk 300k! GL rebuilding

edit:/ slowpony on my question
03-08-2012 , 08:35 PM
Too sick of a day, all hands NL1-2k, played 12hours today practically nonstop. Best day ever poker wise aswell, sick sick grudgematches, I'll write more tomorrow. Time to sleep now!!




      
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