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09-04-2021 , 04:01 PM
Have 2tix to the Venom satties now this month and probably will end up playing 4 of them. Would be nice to get that $2500 ticket.
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09-04-2021 , 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheydacheese
Thx I’m planning to do this when I move over to ignition within a few weeks and would love any feedback then. losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo
Nice. You will like ign I grind there myself its very soft.

About the above sb and bb stuff you need to xr a lot on these dry textures like 744 or for example on dry boards when you have back door equity like straight and FDs like QsTc on 9s6s2d you have overcards plus spade draw plus 2 way running straight cards (K, J, 8, 7). You are probably being too passive and overfolding in spots where ranges are the widest like BvB and blinds vs BTN. If you are just XF flop or XC flop to XF turn in similar spots then your WR is going to suffer big time since these are high frequency spots.

Last edited by BobbyPeru; 09-04-2021 at 05:14 PM.
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09-04-2021 , 08:08 PM
nope

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
CO ($37.31) [VPIP: 21.7% | PFR: 16.9% | AGG: 34.4% | Hands: 4677]
HERO ($29.38) [VPIP: 25.4% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 25% | Flop Agg: 23.6% | Turn Agg: 27.6% | River Agg: 24.5% | 3-Bet: 8.1% | Fold to 3-Bet: 45.3% | 4-Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 38560]
SB ($26.61) [VPIP: 21.1% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 23.6% | Hands: 266]
BB ($67.29) [VPIP: 35.6% | PFR: 9.1% | AGG: 39.6% | Flop Agg: 42.9% | Turn Agg: 36.7% | River Agg: 35.3% | 3-Bet: 5.7% | 4-Bet: 50% | Cold Call: 32.8% | Hands: 137]
HJ ($12.78) [VPIP: 45.7% | PFR: 9% | AGG: 25.8% | Flop Agg: 28.1% | Turn Agg: 29.9% | River Agg: 15.8% | 3-Bet: 3% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 254]

Dealt to Hero: A Q

HJ Raises To $0.70, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $2.01, SB Folds, BB Calls $1.76, HJ Calls $1.31

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.76 effective]
Flop ($6.13): 4 8 3
BB Checks, HJ Checks, HERO Bets $3.06 (Rem. Stack: $24.31), BB Folds, HJ Calls $3.06 (Rem. Stack: $7.71)

Turn ($12.25): 4 8 3 4
HJ Bets $7.71 (allin), HERO Calls $7.71 (Rem. Stack: $16.60)

River ($27.67): 4 8 3 4 4

Spoiler:

HJ shows: A J

HERO wins: $26.29
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09-04-2021 , 09:01 PM
crossed first 10k for September today and am happy with results despite running decently under EV, hoping to keep things going and get w/r up throughout the month

will try to post screenshot tomorrow but my photo hosting stuff being all bejackled tonight

Sept so far =

11625 hands nl25 +$90.45 3.11bb/100 EV=4.35 bb/100

VPIP - 25 PFR - 17.14 !3 - 6.82 WTSD - 30.34 WSD - 55.47

made a lot of adjustments and still many to go, need to get my VPIP down slightly and PFR+!3 higher.

will not be moving up to nl50 unless over 5bb/100 over next 30k hands (including this 10k)

I need to figure some things out with these blind vs blind situations I was mentioning bc I think its really bleeding me.
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09-04-2021 , 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyPeru
Nice. You will like ign I grind there myself its very soft.

About the above sb and bb stuff you need to xr a lot on these dry textures like 744 or for example on dry boards when you have back door equity like straight and FDs like QsTc on 9s6s2d you have overcards plus spade draw plus 2 way running straight cards (K, J, 8, 7). You are probably being too passive and overfolding in spots where ranges are the widest like BvB and blinds vs BTN. If you are just XF flop or XC flop to XF turn in similar spots then your WR is going to suffer big time since these are high frequency spots.
I feel like I'm playing much better now in blinds vs button etc but I am bleeding off a lot of $ in blind vs blind spots where as you mentioned ranges are so wide.
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09-04-2021 , 10:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheydacheese
H2)Fold or 3bet probably better but absolutely can’t flat button with this if folding to 1/2 psb cbet in position w/backdoor str+fd on non A+K+Q board.

H3)I think the $ just goes in regardless but I agree I played it crappy post where I should be letting him get more $ in in unlikely event he is behind.
H2 is co vs bb and is just an easy x/f.

You're making major mistakes in most of your hands itt, I would definitely agree that recording your play with audio would be helpful. But you would need to be open minded to the feedback given, based on most of your responses itt it seems like you're pretty stubborn with your existing flawed thought processes.
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09-04-2021 , 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BornToRun
H2 is co vs bb and is just an easy x/f.

You're making major mistakes in most of your hands itt, I would definitely agree that recording your play with audio would be helpful. But you would need to be open minded to the feedback given, based on most of your responses itt it seems like you're pretty stubborn with your existing flawed thought processes.

Sorry if came across that way. I am least stubborn person in the world about my game which Im well aware is severely flawed still in this format and am very open to feedback.

What I’m saying with hand 2 there is I ‘think’ it’s ok to flat bb w/suited connectors at some % and if flatting then I would expect this to be a x-call w/the backdoor equity.


I do think if continue past turn I think I have to bluff a lot of rivers with no sdv.

*trust me though if I had ANY ‘ego’ about poker/was the least bit defensive of my bad plays I wouldn’t be making a thread about how I don’t beat micro stakes now. losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6molosing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo

Last edited by wheydacheese; 09-04-2021 at 11:23 PM.
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09-04-2021 , 11:41 PM
*ran hand equity vs a reasonable range for V, it is fold H2 based on % anyhow losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo. maybe is ok to float and turn into a bluff but idk.
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09-05-2021 , 04:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheydacheese
Sorry if came across that way. I am least stubborn person in the world about my game which Im well aware is severely flawed still in this format and am very open to feedback.

What I’m saying with hand 2 there is I ‘think’ it’s ok to flat bb w/suited connectors at some % and if flatting then I would expect this to be a x-call w/the backdoor equity.


I do think if continue past turn I think I have to bluff a lot of rivers with no sdv.

*trust me though if I had ANY ‘ego’ about poker/was the least bit defensive of my bad plays I wouldn’t be making a thread about how I don’t beat micro stakes now. losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6molosing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo
No worries man. It's absolutely okay to flat suited connectors from BB, not just at some % either, they're a 100% continue. However that flop is just a x/f, if you ran it through a solver vs any reasonable range you will see that.
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09-05-2021 , 08:48 AM
Have been 8 tabling every session in Sept so far and just feels better/I tend to not overthink spots or FPS as badly. It is about the max I’m comfortable with right now and am unlikely to increase anytime soon; as it is 8 tables causes the occasional hiccup like button clicking 2.8 open on a table where I normally open 2.4 now or folding Q7s otb that should probably open but in a tough big spot on 2 other tables etc. I played way too many thousands of hours of RTS games growing up so the spread focus is not particularly straining. I’m not opposed to scaling back if this next 10k hands is disappointing but for the moment I am in a comfortable 2 session/day grind routine that is averaging 3k hands/day and I feel like the volume is helping iron out some of my issues.

The problem now is getting in enough time to review some spots and watch/read some material.

Play the first of these Venom satellites from the rake race today then have another one lined up next Sunday and should be a weekly thing for the foreseeable future. I think there are 350-400 entries and top 20 get the $2500 seat. Would be nice to win seat since I haven’t been able to play mtts in a long time and the WPT events I was gonna fire here in Jax all got “postponed”.

Considering streaming some in a month or so since new hardware is good to go, however my internet blows and I need to line up something faster and more reliable. Also would have to be tournaments on Sundays or something bc I don’t think anyone wants to watch 8 tables of struggling micro-low stakes 6max. losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo
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09-05-2021 , 09:57 PM
Bad news:busted on hand 1 of the Venom satty...QQ < AK all in pre when I called his weird 5bet jam that went from like 500 to 5000. You only start with 5k chips and it only pays out around top 5% so I'm ok with flipping this early on.

Good news:continue to play and run better at the nl25 6max. Today was a day of tons of bluffs that kept getting through. I am going to post 3 of them if anyone wants to give feedback on them...whats good/bad? if all bad just say so and reason. Thx!

H1)
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO ($31.52) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.7% | Turn Agg: 27.8% | 3-Bet: 8% | 4-Bet: 14.1% | Fold to 4-Bet: 27.6% | Hands: 40776]
BTN ($41.73) [VPIP: 15.7% | PFR: 12.6% | AGG: 35.7% | Hands: 330]
SB ($28.29) [VPIP: 31.4% | PFR: 18.6% | AGG: 25.3% | Flop Agg: 31.4% | Turn Agg: 13% | 3-Bet: 8.6% | Fold to 3-Bet: 40% | 4-Bet: 20% | Hands: 158]
BB ($22.32) [VPIP: 28.9% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 34.6% | Hands: 959]
HJ ($26.53) [VPIP: 24.1% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 33.5% | Hands: 3299]

Dealt to Hero: A J

HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.60, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $2, BB Folds, HERO Raises To $6.58, SB Calls $4.58

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.62 effective]
Flop ($13.41): 6 5 3
SB Checks, HERO Bets $4.25 (Rem. Stack: $20.69), SB Calls $4.25 (Rem. Stack: $17.46)

Turn ($21.91): 6 5 3 T
SB Checks, HERO Bets $20.69 (allin), SB Folds

Spoiler:

HERO wins: $20.82


H2)
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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO ($33.14) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.7% | Turn Agg: 27.8% | 3-Bet: 8% | Fold to 3-Bet: 45.8% | 4-Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 40776]
BB ($43.61) [VPIP: 31.4% | PFR: 18.6% | AGG: 25.3% | Hands: 158]
UTG ($24.75) [VPIP: 23.5% | PFR: 18.9% | AGG: 34.1% | Hands: 1983]
HJ ($26.45) [VPIP: 26% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 36.5% | Hands: 159]
CO ($24.25) [VPIP: 10% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 11]
BTN ($50.74) [VPIP: 26.6% | PFR: 18.8% | AGG: 34.8% | Flop Agg: 42% | Turn Agg: 29.6% | 3-Bet: 9.2% | 4-Bet: 11.8% | Fold to 4-Bet: 75% | Hands: 690]

Dealt to Hero: T Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.57, HERO Raises To $2.96, BB Folds, BTN Raises To $6.75, HERO Calls $3.79

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.92 effective]
Flop ($13.75): 6 7 4
HERO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($13.75): 6 7 4 4
HERO Bets $5.23 (Rem. Stack: $21.16), BTN Folds

Spoiler:

HERO wins: $13.07


H3)
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($24.75) [VPIP: 23.5% | PFR: 18.9% | AGG: 34.1% | Hands: 1983]
SB ($31.83) [VPIP: 26.6% | PFR: 18.8% | AGG: 34.8% | Flop Agg: 42% | Turn Agg: 29.6% | 3-Bet: 9.2% | Fold to 3-Bet: 35.3% | 4-Bet: 11.8% | Hands: 690]
BB ($39.73) [VPIP: 23.7% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 26.2% | Hands: 1585]
HERO ($42.05) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.7% | Turn Agg: 27.8% | 3-Bet: 8% | 4-Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 40776]
CO ($84.39) [VPIP: 24.1% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 33.5% | Hands: 3299]

Dealt to Hero: T J

HERO Raises To $0.60, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $2.82, BB Folds, HERO Calls $2.22

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.93 effective]
Flop ($5.89): 2 9 7
SB Bets $3.72 (Rem. Stack: $25.29), HERO Calls $3.72 (Rem. Stack: $35.51)

Turn ($13.33): 2 9 7 7
SB Checks, HERO Bets $9.99 (Rem. Stack: $25.52), SB Folds

Spoiler:

HERO wins: $12.67
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09-05-2021 , 10:07 PM
Another interesting development. There is a reg that plays semi normal BUT has decided to 3bet virtually every open I make on our tables both in and out of position. Idk if bc he thinks I’m opening too wide or folding to his !3s too often or is hoping I’ll make mistakes postflop but I was having some trouble adjusting to it today. I started opening tighter on those tables and 4betting a higher % which he was mostly folding to. Also flat one of his !3s with QQ oop and called down the triple barrel was good. He’s obviously targeting me for one of the reasons I mentioned but there’s no way it’s that EV for him to do so oop even, I have to check but I would guess I’m +$ vs this reg...anyhow it was very different and sort of agitating.

Last edited by wheydacheese; 09-05-2021 at 10:18 PM.
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09-06-2021 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wheydacheese
Another interesting development. There is a reg that plays semi normal BUT has decided to 3bet virtually every open I make on our tables both in and out of position. Idk if bc he thinks I’m opening too wide or folding to his !3s too often or is hoping I’ll make mistakes postflop but I was having some trouble adjusting to it today. I started opening tighter on those tables and 4betting a higher % which he was mostly folding to. Also flat one of his !3s with QQ oop and called down the triple barrel was good. He’s obviously targeting me for one of the reasons I mentioned but there’s no way it’s that EV for him to do so oop even, I have to check but I would guess I’m +$ vs this reg...anyhow it was very different and sort of agitating.
I think the three hands above are probably indicative as to why. The stats below are pretty insane:

4-Bet: 14.1% | Fold to 4-Bet: 27.6%

Can you talk us through your thought process preflop in all three hands?
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09-06-2021 , 08:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BornToRun
I think the three hands above are probably indicative as to why. The stats below are pretty insane:

4-Bet: 14.1% | Fold to 4-Bet: 27.6%

Can you talk us through your thought process preflop in all three hands?



Could you please elaborate on the stats?


Will do my best on thought process on these:

H1) this hand going to be an open for me in cu always; I open and the loosest VPIP at table 3bets me oop so I feel like it is is a good candidate to 4 bet. this V has been wanting action so when he flats my 4 I think he is usually capped to sub Q (more probably sub JJ) and sub AQs. I would def be folding to a 5bet. Otf he x so I bet my range sizing with what I feel is advantage both from range and position. He flats and x again on turn so w/stp right at 1:1 I jam expecting him to almost never hero w/hands like 7s,8s,9s and folding all his better overs AQ/AK. I think he probably calls w/JJ and if we got unfortunate TT.

H2) This is a hand I am rarely 3betting pre but I do want to play out of SB or BB on occasion so will only do so if putting in the 3. When V 4bets me I’m generally just going to snap fold but he barely 2xd my raise and my hand should not often be dominated and should play not terribly post if cautious so I think I have to call to this sizing. I know on this flop he should be x-behind with some of his overpairs but in practice that rarely happens in this pool so when I pick up equity ott I lead out to fold out his non spade overs, I try to size low enough that I can ditch it easily if raised and while it would suck bc I do have backdoor equity I feel like taking pot now vs his overs is better, especially since I feel that this V is giving me credit for something closer to 99-JJ given his flop x. I’ll be the most lost if he just flats, then I think I just give up unless spade come otr ofc.


H3)again not a hand I am always opening utg but am not never opening. Of the 3 this is the hand I feel was most questionable call preflop...only thing going for me is position and his !3 is higher than most of the regs, also I think I looked at his !3 out of SB and it was higher than usual as well. Flop again I think it’s just a fold to that sizing, if I had the gutter with a spade I’m calling. I make a poor call otf I think I didn’t consider sizing in the moment. His turn x surprises me and catches me off guard since I should call a practically sized bet with my hands like A9s, TT, AKdd, AQdd. I’m also not usually floating this flop w/non Diamond AK/AQ but I know some people do, maybe would with the bd clubs. For this reason his turn x feels like either a give up or hoping a take lead with hand like AQcc etc...I bet hoping for the later but in retrospect my sizing is really bad I think much smaller accomplishes same thing while letting me fold cheaper if comes back over...smaller sizing would have also given me more options on rivers if he just flats turn. H3 was def the least thought out and I think poorly played hand of the 3 I think I was being pretty spontaneous on the turn since in my head I had just pitched it to second V bet already.
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09-06-2021 , 09:25 AM
I actually like the way you played all these hands except for preflop in h1. Since we have to fold to a 5b you are essentially bluffing now and AJs is too good to turn into a bluff. And I actually thought h3 was the best played hand of all haha. That 4b% does seem rather high though. Never noticed it until BTR pointed it out.
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09-06-2021 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyPeru
I actually like the way you played all these hands except for preflop in h1. Since we have to fold to a 5b you are essentially bluffing now and AJs is too good to turn into a bluff. And I actually thought h3 was the best played hand of all haha. That 4b% does seem rather high though. Never noticed it until BTR pointed it out.
Was actually considering it a bluff in H1 w/some blocking effect and not hating be flat. Like you said though I do need to fold to 5bet always. I have heard argument that AJs play better as a 4bet then a call here but maybe that’s more for if oop.


I’ll def look into the 4bet %, just seemed exploitively correct in a lot of spots possibly bc my prior stats regs had on me was leading to a higher than usual frequency of me being 3bet (lighter)...like if they have a fuller representative sample not showing for me bc the new database since I had previously been VPIP closer to 30%.

Took y’all’s advice from itt about sb vs bb issues and have incorporated some x raising in those spots which I wasn’t really doing before and having some success with that. Right now I’m probably using something like 30% value hands that would otherwise lead, 10% air, and 60ish% hands like overs with backdoor equity when I do x raise sb -bb, idk if this is ideal.
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09-06-2021 , 10:45 AM
*did check stats on that reg in question, he is down significantly in our history together which is not all from my direct involvement but considering how much he’s trying to iso and push me I would assume he’s doing poorly vs me so idk why the focus.
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09-07-2021 , 05:44 PM
Ugh biggest wrench in the challenge yet today. Was rolling into Sept well with 15k ish hands in at 5-6bb/100 and starting to feel more solid/confident in a lot of spots. Got doomswitched in back to back sessions today to have the biggest losing day yet of challenge. Ran KK into AA 3 times, lost AA to AK, ran QQ to KK twice, set under set, boat under boat, AA &lt; 44 4 bet pre...pretty much every bad thing condensed into two sessions and I’m sure I played poorly on top of that. Lost whopping 16 buy ins which is about twice what I’ve ever lost in a day of this challenge. Def a big hurdle/setback and I’ll have to clear head, go over some things, and see best way to get back at it.
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09-08-2021 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wheydacheese
Ugh biggest wrench in the challenge yet today. Was rolling into Sept well with 15k ish hands in at 5-6bb/100 and starting to feel more solid/confident in a lot of spots. Got doomswitched in back to back sessions today to have the biggest losing day yet of challenge. Ran KK into AA 3 times, lost AA to AK, ran QQ to KK twice, set under set, boat under boat, AA &lt; 44 4 bet pre...pretty much every bad thing condensed into two sessions and I’m sure I played poorly on top of that. Lost whopping 16 buy ins which is about twice what I’ve ever lost in a day of this challenge. Def a big hurdle/setback and I’ll have to clear head, go over some things, and see best way to get back at it.
Sorry to hear about the rough session, a potential suggestion if you are looking for some more quality feedback on hands would be to post a hour+ video of you playing (without commentary is fine). Might be surprised on some potential feedback on what you consider more trivial hands. If any concern about posting the session would be outing your WPN screenname, I would recommend posting session from Iggy to remain anon.

Some potential tools if not using already for improvement- RIO elite/PioSolver/Monkersolver. From what I've observed from the thread I might hold off on Monker for now, as the software can take awhile to get acclimated.

Been lurking the thread for awhile, good luck on the online/live grinds - will be following!
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09-08-2021 , 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheydacheese
Could you please elaborate on the stats?


Will do my best on thought process on these:

H1) this hand going to be an open for me in cu always; I open and the loosest VPIP at table 3bets me oop so I feel like it is is a good candidate to 4 bet. this V has been wanting action so when he flats my 4 I think he is usually capped to sub Q (more probably sub JJ) and sub AQs. I would def be folding to a 5bet. Otf he x so I bet my range sizing with what I feel is advantage both from range and position. He flats and x again on turn so w/stp right at 1:1 I jam expecting him to almost never hero w/hands like 7s,8s,9s and folding all his better overs AQ/AK. I think he probably calls w/JJ and if we got unfortunate TT.

H2) This is a hand I am rarely 3betting pre but I do want to play out of SB or BB on occasion so will only do so if putting in the 3. When V 4bets me I’m generally just going to snap fold but he barely 2xd my raise and my hand should not often be dominated and should play not terribly post if cautious so I think I have to call to this sizing. I know on this flop he should be x-behind with some of his overpairs but in practice that rarely happens in this pool so when I pick up equity ott I lead out to fold out his non spade overs, I try to size low enough that I can ditch it easily if raised and while it would suck bc I do have backdoor equity I feel like taking pot now vs his overs is better, especially since I feel that this V is giving me credit for something closer to 99-JJ given his flop x. I’ll be the most lost if he just flats, then I think I just give up unless spade come otr ofc.


H3)again not a hand I am always opening utg but am not never opening. Of the 3 this is the hand I feel was most questionable call preflop...only thing going for me is position and his !3 is higher than most of the regs, also I think I looked at his !3 out of SB and it was higher than usual as well. Flop again I think it’s just a fold to that sizing, if I had the gutter with a spade I’m calling. I make a poor call otf I think I didn’t consider sizing in the moment. His turn x surprises me and catches me off guard since I should call a practically sized bet with my hands like A9s, TT, AKdd, AQdd. I’m also not usually floating this flop w/non Diamond AK/AQ but I know some people do, maybe would with the bd clubs. For this reason his turn x feels like either a give up or hoping a take lead with hand like AQcc etc...I bet hoping for the later but in retrospect my sizing is really bad I think much smaller accomplishes same thing while letting me fold cheaper if comes back over...smaller sizing would have also given me more options on rivers if he just flats turn. H3 was def the least thought out and I think poorly played hand of the 3 I think I was being pretty spontaneous on the turn since in my head I had just pitched it to second V bet already.
All three hands are pure opens pre, so don't stress about that.

H1) AJs is much too strong a hand to be 4betting, if villain is super loose then flat IP and print. You have GTO Wiz right? Check out some of their ranges for 3bet/4bet/5bet. Your fold to 4bet is insanely low.

H2) Again this is 100% a 3bet, but an easy fold to a 27bb 4bet, which is actually quite large.

H3) 100% open, but also 100% fold to 3bet. Remember the rake at 25nl is brutal, so these types of hands are just going to be leaks.
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09-08-2021 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaPats55
Sorry to hear about the rough session, a potential suggestion if you are looking for some more quality feedback on hands would be to post a hour+ video of you playing (without commentary is fine). Might be surprised on some potential feedback on what you consider more trivial hands. If any concern about posting the session would be outing your WPN screenname, I would recommend posting session from Iggy to remain anon.

Some potential tools if not using already for improvement- RIO elite/PioSolver/Monkersolver. From what I've observed from the thread I might hold off on Monker for now, as the software can take awhile to get acclimated.

Been lurking the thread for awhile, good luck on the online/live grinds - will be following!

Thx will do although solver type work on hiatus while I re-address some fundamentals I have been bending a bit too much
losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo Quote
09-08-2021 , 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BornToRun
All three hands are pure opens pre, so don't stress about that.

H1) AJs is much too strong a hand to be 4betting, if villain is super loose then flat IP and print. You have GTO Wiz right? Check out some of their ranges for 3bet/4bet/5bet. Your fold to 4bet is insanely low.

H2) Again this is 100% a 3bet, but an easy fold to a 27bb 4bet, which is actually quite large.

H3) 100% open, but also 100% fold to 3bet. Remember the rake at 25nl is brutal, so these types of hands are just going to be leaks.
aight Im'a look into all this, did not realize I was flatting an unusually high % 4 bets. I probably have a folding (not folding) problem in general.
losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo Quote
09-08-2021 , 09:04 PM
downswing continue today, probably played better than yesterday but still felt like I played much worse than I had previously been. just getting in these weird spots, I will post a few, I think I play some of them poorly.

H1)this hand is hu since only 2 of us still at table, he has been playing pretty wild and I expect a big bet on a ton of rivers, the jam was more than I expected but I'm having trouble finding hands he makes otr as played...maybe just a fold but feels like a spot I would be calling in hu play.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
SB ($33.59) [VPIP: 26% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 37.8% | Flop Agg: 33.7% | Turn Agg: 46.6% | River Agg: 35.1% | 3-Bet: 12.7% | 4-Bet: 4.6% | Hands: 2170]
HERO ($48.02) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 27.7% | River Agg: 24.2% | 3-Bet: 8% | Fold to 3-Bet: 46% | 4-Bet: 14% | Hands: 47598]

Dealt to Hero: Q Q

SB Raises To $0.62, HERO Raises To $2.96, SB Calls $2.34

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.17 effective]
Flop ($5.92): 6 5 4
HERO Bets $5.92 (Rem. Stack: $39.14), SB Calls $5.92 (Rem. Stack: $24.71)

Turn ($17.76): 6 5 4 K
HERO Checks, SB Bets $4.44 (Rem. Stack: $20.27), HERO Calls $4.44 (Rem. Stack: $34.70)

River ($26.64): 6 5 4 K 7
HERO Checks, SB Bets $20.27 (allin), HERO Calls $20.27 (Rem. Stack: $14.43)

Spoiler:

SB shows: J 8

SB wins: $66.68


H2)same gdam V. I think he can have 77 or A9...I don't see lot of other 9x he has bc of 2 spade flop I would expect 9xs to peel if non9spade otf/ie I would think 2nd pair only wanna peel with a draw in this spot. hes been playing pretty wild today felt like he could be stabbing out a fd ott and planning to jam rivers. that's what I convinced myself anyways otr and made possibly a really bad call.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BB ($18.50) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 49.5% | Flop Agg: 53.7% | Turn Agg: 45.7% | River Agg: 45.5% | 3-Bet: 9.9% | 4-Bet: 8.3% | Cold Call: 17.3% | Hands: 920]
BTN ($27.84) [VPIP: 26% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 37.8% | Flop Agg: 33.7% | Turn Agg: 46.6% | River Agg: 35.1% | 3-Bet: 12.7% | 4-Bet: 4.6% | Hands: 2170]
HERO ($29.44) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 27.7% | River Agg: 24.2% | 3-Bet: 8% | Fold to 3-Bet: 46% | 4-Bet: 14% | Hands: 47598]

Dealt to Hero: Q A

BTN Raises To $0.50, HERO Raises To $1.75, BB Calls $1.50, BTN Calls $1.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.19 effective]
Flop ($5.25): A 9 7
BB Checks, BTN Checks, HERO Bets $2.62 (Rem. Stack: $25.07), BB Folds, BTN Calls $2.62 (Rem. Stack: $23.47)

Turn ($10.49): A 9 7 9
BTN Bets $5.24 (Rem. Stack: $18.23), HERO Calls $5.24 (Rem. Stack: $19.83)

River ($20.97): A 9 7 9 2
BTN Bets $18.23 (allin), HERO Calls $18.23 (Rem. Stack: $1.60)

Spoiler:

BTN shows: 9 Q

BTN wins: $56.43


H3)tbh I just spazzed and crunced buttons on this hand ott, its bad.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($33.22) [VPIP: 23% | PFR: 17.3% | AGG: 35.4% | Hands: 831]
SB ($34.63) [VPIP: 26% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 37.8% | Hands: 2170]
BB ($23.40) [VPIP: 32.5% | PFR: 19.5% | AGG: 31.3% | Hands: 349]
HERO ($32.48) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 27.7% | River Agg: 24.2% | 3-Bet: 8% | 4-Bet: 14% | Cold Call: 16.2% | Hands: 47598]
CO ($25) [VPIP: 72.3% | PFR: 57.1% | AGG: 49.2% | Flop Agg: 61.8% | Turn Agg: 45.9% | River Agg: 17.4% | 3-Bet: 34.1% | 4-Bet: 7.1% | Hands: 123]

Dealt to Hero: Q 8

HERO Calls $0.25, CO Raises To $0.88, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.63

Hero SPR on Flop: [11.43 effective]
Flop ($2.11): 3 Q 4
HERO Checks, CO Bets $1.05 (Rem. Stack: $23.07), HERO Raises To $5.26 (Rem. Stack: $26.34), CO Calls $4.21 (Rem. Stack: $18.86)

Turn ($12.63): 3 Q 4 A
HERO Bets $26.34 (allin), CO Calls $18.86 (allin)

River ($57.83): 3 Q 4 A A

Spoiler:

CO shows: A J

CO wins: $47.84
losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo Quote
09-09-2021 , 04:56 PM
Cut back to 6 tables for now while getting out of downswing. Has its pros and cons but I do feel like I need to be able to slow down on some spots and pay attention to particular regs for a bit while cleaning things up.
losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo Quote
09-09-2021 , 05:17 PM
had to have a nl50 table open today bc low volume, lost this hand and am wondering if my line was ok and I'm a little ROT or way too passive. I think I can just bet on flop w/backdoor K flshdraw but I thought a check be ok. on turn I x to let him bet worse aces, bluffs, and broadway combo gutters...on river I had been so passive and he has responded so weak I thought he folds to any practical size lead and I make more here x-bluff catch so I did that...sort of.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
CO ($95.80) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 17.8% | AGG: 28.9% | Flop Agg: 28.2% | Turn Agg: 27.3% | River Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 5.2% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 220]
BTN ($85.99) [VPIP: 26.8% | PFR: 17.3% | AGG: 27.6% | Hands: 735]
HERO ($58.07) [VPIP: 25.2% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 25% | Flop Agg: 23.7% | Turn Agg: 27.6% | River Agg: 24.2% | 3-Bet: 8% | Fold to 3-Bet: 45.8% | 4-Bet: 14.3% | Hands: 48267]
BB ($50) [VPIP: 25.5% | PFR: 18.1% | AGG: 24.8% | Hands: 1243]

Dealt to Hero: A K

CO Raises To $1.50, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $6, BB Folds, CO Calls $4.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.17 effective]
Flop ($12.50): T 4 7
HERO Checks, CO Checks

Turn ($12.50): T 4 7 A
HERO Checks, CO Checks

River ($12.50): T 4 7 A 5
HERO Checks, CO Bets $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $85.30), HERO Calls $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $47.57)

Spoiler:

CO shows: 5 5

CO wins: $20.43
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