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losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo

09-16-2021 , 09:33 PM
H1 brutal
H2 brutal
H3 brutal but squeeze bigger pre to 14x-15x
H4 I think this should be a fold pre against the 3b and you're sandwiched in the middle against strong ranges. Flop is just yikes, can't blame you for calling, CO shove is absolutely ridiculous
H5 brutal

This games sucks sometimes
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09-16-2021 , 10:40 PM
the QJ is absolutely unfoldable imo. i respect the boss TT line tho.

i would also call the flop raise with KK but that doesn't change the result.
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09-16-2021 , 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmbSmbSmb
the QJ is absolutely unfoldable imo. i respect the boss TT line tho.

i would also call the flop raise with KK but that doesn't change the result.

Interesting take, you may be right I don’t have enough knowledge of spots this deep. I think we’re beat a lot but if he can ever have J8 J9 , or spazzing out w/KQ w/some bd flush combo or overpair then probably just gotta lose some $.
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09-17-2021 , 02:20 AM
i mean he's a fish. i've seen KQ, 89, J7s, J9o, AA, AK, 66. sure, you don't expect to see them but it's easily enough to make this a snap, imo. never underestimate fishy.
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09-19-2021 , 08:47 AM
Few days mostly off from challenge while I grind the live plo. Need some manies $ for upcoming things and don’t like to draw from other sources for anything other than normal monthly expenses.
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09-25-2021 , 11:39 AM
Poker is weird, run bad in challenge but running absolutely stupid good in live plos this week so much so that I jumped up from the 1-2 game to the better 2-5 game last night and essentially 1 outed a 4k$ pot (did have few chop outs gii KKJT > AAJT on a AK9 flop and we both had bd fds...I rivered K). Back at it tonight and Sunday then back to challenge on Monday, may add a week for missed time but hopefully will not be be necessary.
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09-27-2021 , 09:32 AM
Binged a degen amount of hours last week in live plo and ended up booking biggest week of $ and biggest pot I’ve won ever. After the rungood continued in the 2-5 game two of the best spots asked me to start the 2-5 BigO game on Sat and Sun with them which I did and somehow ran even better breaking the game both days after taking a ton of the $ off tables. At one point we were playing 2-5 w/$10 and $20 straddle 5-6 handed which was just stupid big and largest game I’ve played live...guess we’re set on walking around manies for a good while and the excess I’ll be buying up ETH if it trends below 2.5k.

Now back to the real challenge! Beating this gdam nl25 6max. Shortening sessions to 1-2 hours and focusing on improvement/study rest of month then need to really find some rhythm in October to pull this off since will be into month 3 of challenge. Will post some hands from today’s session tonight or tom early.
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09-29-2021 , 10:35 AM
didnt play much yesterday so only one particularly troublesome spot

hand felt too weak to 4bet out of bb when sb 3bts but too strong to fold...otf seems like just a call in position to let him keep going with worse. maybe as played I should just fold to his big sizing ott? pretty gdam fortunate turn for him as I think he keeps barreling on most cards.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HJ ($28.81) [VPIP: 35.4% | PFR: 21.2% | AGG: 30.5% | Hands: 587]
CO ($18.83) [VPIP: 46.3% | PFR: 31.6% | AGG: 32.4% | Hands: 103]
BTN ($25) [VPIP: 24.1% | PFR: 18.8% | AGG: 25.5% | Flop Agg: 21.9% | Turn Agg: 27.9% | River Agg: 31.4% | 3-Bet: 9.6% | 4-Bet: 2.4% | Hands: 1176]
SB ($25) [VPIP: 13.5% | PFR: 9.6% | AGG: 42.9% | Flop Agg: 71.4% | Turn Agg: 25% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 13% | Fold to 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 100% | Hands: 53]
HERO ($24.79) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 28% | River Agg: 23.8% | 3-Bet: 8.4% | 4-Bet: 14.4% | Cold Call: 15.2% |

Dealt to Hero: T T

HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.62, SB Raises To $2.75, HERO Calls $2.50, BTN Calls $2.13

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.67 effective]
Flop ($8.25): 3 4 7
SB Bets $2.72 (Rem. Stack: $19.53), HERO Calls $2.72 (Rem. Stack: $19.32), BTN Folds

Turn ($13.69): 3 4 7 6
SB Bets $9.03 (Rem. Stack: $10.50), HERO Raises To $19.32 (allin), SB Calls $10.29 (Rem. Stack: $0.21)

River ($52.33): 3 4 7 6 2

Spoiler:

SB shows: 5 5

SB wins: $49.72
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09-29-2021 , 11:08 AM
*also think I play this one poorly not sure whats ideal here.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
SB ($25.10) [VPIP: 15.9% | PFR: 13.5% | AGG: 30.8% | Hands: 1141]
BB ($48.12) [VPIP: 26.8% | PFR: 18% | AGG: 44.8% | Flop Agg: 41.8% | Turn Agg: 51.5% | River Agg: 42% | 3-Bet: 9.7% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 19% | Hands: 697]
UTG ($26.52) [VPIP: 46.7% | PFR: 14.5% | AGG: 27.6% | Flop Agg: 30.1% | Turn Agg: 28.8% | River Agg: 20.5% | 3-Bet: 3.5% | 4-Bet: 2.9% | Hands: 1324]
HERO ($33.78) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 28% | River Agg: 23.8% | 3-Bet: 8.4% | Fold to 3-Bet: 44.1% | 4-Bet: 14.4% |
CO ($30.12) [VPIP: 28% | PFR: 17.2% | AGG: 33.9% | Hands: 94]
BTN ($25) [VPIP: 24.1% | PFR: 18.8% | AGG: 25.5% | Hands: 1176]

Dealt to Hero: Q A

UTG Raises To $0.50, HERO Raises To $1.85, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $1.60, UTG Calls $1.35

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.37 effective]
Flop ($5.65): K 3 A
BB Checks, UTG Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($5.65): K 3 A T
BB Bets $4.23 (Rem. Stack: $42.04), UTG Calls $4.23 (Rem. Stack: $20.44), HERO Calls $4.23 (Rem. Stack: $27.70)

River ($18.34): K 3 A T 8
BB Bets $9.17 (Rem. Stack: $32.87), UTG Folds, HERO Folds

Spoiler:

BB wins: $17.43
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09-29-2021 , 11:11 AM
I think on the AQ maybe bet large flop since the bds and AK raises pre. when I dont I felt like turn helps their range much more and am worried about utg flat so I call w/equity+closing action. River just seems like always beat.
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09-29-2021 , 07:33 PM
TT is a good spot to cold 4b. After SB bets turn so big you have to seriously consider folding and shoving is not good when SB has already bet half their stack.

AQs should probably bet flop always. AP I think I would station river facing half pot.
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09-29-2021 , 07:46 PM
^^^ agree with mr peru on all points
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09-30-2021 , 03:25 AM
largely agree with all except i'm fine with AQ river nit fold, especially if bb is actually some kind of reg. and the bare TT probably plays ok as a turn shove if we're continuing (which i probably wouldn't), given this spr and how many rivers are not good for our hand.
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09-30-2021 , 11:57 AM
Thx for thoughts, TT is a weird one there bc fundamentally shouldn’t be a terrible 4bet but vs this pool it doesn’t do great vs SB. To me it was between jamming or folding turn bc of stp mentioned and hands vulnerability when ahead...in the moment I decided he can still be barreling worse and have both folds and calls (with worse) favoring the jam over fold.

Will post months results and stats +some hands after weekend, kinda disappointing overall but I do feel I learned more and made progress. This coming month is the midpoint in challenge and crucial point. I think if it’s a slight winning month than can keep up with pace, however would prefer to post good winning month and make the move to nl50 in nov giving me more time at that stake. Between the lower volume approach I’ll be taking in Nov and the switch to Ignition I’ll make in about 2 weeks, I think it’s a good possibility.
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10-05-2021 , 07:18 PM
havent played online this month (since the live plo spree). motivation just low and I think I was a lot more burnt out than I realized not from the focus which is turtle-pace compared to multi table 6max but from the size of the games stress as they were bigger than I ever play.

just been going to the beach, working out at gym again, and going out to eat all week. basically just relaxing and blowing off a small % of the excess $ from sun run.

here are the stats from September, pretty crappy played around 45k hands, lost roughly $800 at about -8bb/100 and while there is a small gap in the EV, I don't think it captures what was some genuine runbad over the month. still I made a ton of mistakes and had a few terrible sessions but learned some stuff as well. right now I'm just reviewing but will dive back in after weekend though I am only shooting for around 20-25k hands for October over which will ideally show a better outcome.



the exception to not playing since the plo is I played the freeroll I qualified for on the rakerace from the prior week so that was on last Sunday...I think there were around 700 players and top 57 got $1000+50$ ticket. played solid and was a top 10 stack a huge portion of the mtt before this hand:

*cant find my mtt hands in database so I dont have the specifics on blinds/stacks and am estimating

lost a chunk here: open 2.5x JTdd utg+1 w/120bbs or so, CU w/60bb raise smallish, I call. flop QKT rainbow I x-call something like 12bb. turn 9x I x and he bets 20bb...I can just x-jam but seems pointless as he only calls w/chop and he will probably jam most rivers. I x and the gdam river is the J. I x and he jams in his last 20-25bb I hate it but call and he has A7.

so lost some momentum there but still got way deep with a steadily declining stack...got to the point where I'm in that annoying gross bottom 5 above bubble sort of position as we approach the $. I was going to have to gii 1 time almost certainly to cement a spot or less likely jam a few times and get the walks. I jam 22 from mp with 8-9bbs at super high blinds and it folded around. back down sub 10bb coming up on bubble and utg jams his last 8-9bb folds to me mp and i have A7dd which is right about bottom to even consider but I have to do something to get in and double up here I'm a shoe in for the ticket since there are several stacks around my size...I also know utg has to just jam a lot here like way A7s should be doing pretty good vs his range+I should have just enough to dissuade light calls behind me. it could still be a fold but I get hit by huge and about to go up blinds it will be random vs chosen spot if I dont take this spot. I call and he has JQos...flops ATK but with 2 diamonds...I brick out despite hitting a 7otr and I'm out 64th...tix go to 57.

not much else going on just being a lazy fk and enjoying a week of eating, tv shows, and video games slightly countered by some exercise. will have hands to post next week. I am planning to play these 2 live sattys here in town into the $1500 Oct mtt sometime around the 20th this month.
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10-08-2021 , 09:36 AM
Very little volume towards challenge just been catching up on some other things, this weekend back to live plo sessions (it’s hard to not go back to if I can make even a fraction of what I’ve made in these games this month) then next week impromptu south Fl trip. Will bring my laptop but doubt I’ll play a ton. I think I’ll just be open to adding 2-3 weeks on end of challenge deadline if needed. I will post some hands from the nl25 6max tonight though if I don’t stay out ridiculously late playing.
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10-19-2021 , 12:27 AM
Sorry no updates been playing exclusively 2-5 plo on the weekends, $ been too good despite game being much bigger than normal for me. Took the weekdays off to relax last week. I’ll get in some sessions all the same this week and have some hands to post soon. Unlikely I’ll break 10-15k hands for month at this rate so next month will need to be more volume for challenge as I still am determined to pull it off.
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10-21-2021 , 10:01 PM
got in some hands this week but still really low volume. mostly viewing this is as an off month for challenge due to the ridiculous amount of live plo hours ive been playing interfering as well as the resulting jacked up erratic sleep schedule. for that reason ill probably be playing nl25 still next month despite this months results and that will leave me with 2 months on the end to try to beat nl50 at the desired $/hr for challenge.

some recent hands of interest, posting ones that i feel had some issues for sure.

H1)I think i played this hands pretty gdam bad ...preflop raise seems fine, idk why i raise flop other than he should have more combos of 2x, underpair pps, and spades than Jx. turn its just going in largely bc of my raise otf and the remaining stack sizes...still i dont need to stick it in myself i can just check behind turn and realize equity if behind then value bet small if river bricks and im checked to.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($30.61) [VPIP: 20.1% | PFR: 17.3% | AGG: 26% | Hands: 3597]
SB ($43.04) [VPIP: 20.5% | PFR: 11.1% | AGG: 27.1% | Hands: 196]
BB ($9.37) [VPIP: 40.9% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 50% | Flop Agg: 57.1% | Turn Agg: 66.7% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 50% | Hands: 23]
HJ ($26.15) [VPIP: 20.3% | PFR: 20.3% | AGG: 26.3% | Hands: 61]
HERO ($71.83) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 28% | River Agg: 23.8% | 3-Bet: 8.4% | 4-Bet: 14.4% |

Dealt to Hero: 8 K

HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.60, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.35

Hero SPR on Flop: [6.75 effective]
Flop ($1.30): J J 2
BB Bets $0.65 (Rem. Stack: $8.12), HERO Raises To $2.60 (Rem. Stack: $68.63), BB Calls $1.95 (Rem. Stack: $6.17)

Turn ($6.50): J J 2 K
BB Checks, HERO Bets $68.63 (allin), BB Calls $6.17 (allin)

River ($81.30): J J 2 K 2

Spoiler:

BB shows: J 8

BB wins: $17.90


H2) preflop flat otb has to be bad, probably would have 3bet A9s but should just fold this. otf sizing is wrong (too much). the turn and river seem standard.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
SB ($46.53) [VPIP: 27.4% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 34.6% | Hands: 65]
BB ($36.96) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 21.6% | AGG: 37.8% | Hands: 1370]
HJ ($34.20) [VPIP: 22.3% | PFR: 18.7% | AGG: 36.7% | Hands: 2878]
CO ($50.60) [VPIP: 27.2% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 38.5% | Flop Agg: 40.9% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 31.5% | 3-Bet: 9% | 4-Bet: 25.7% | Hands: 1025]
HERO ($30.26) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 28% | River Agg: 23.8% | 3-Bet: 8.4% | 4-Bet: 14.4% | Cold Call: 15.2% |

Dealt to Hero: 9 A

HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.80, HERO Calls $0.80, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [15.11 effective]
Flop ($1.95): 2 5 9
CO Checks, HERO Bets $1.95 (Rem. Stack: $27.51), CO Calls $1.95 (Rem. Stack: $47.85)

Turn ($5.85): 2 5 9 3
CO Checks, HERO Bets $4.38 (Rem. Stack: $23.13), CO Calls $4.38 (Rem. Stack: $43.47)

River ($14.61): 2 5 9 3 6
CO Checks, HERO Checks

Spoiler:

CO shows: Q Q

CO wins: $13.88


H3) this is a hand i played a few sessions ago but i dont think i posted it. it is at nl50 as nl25 was too dead at that time of day. not sure what to think of it...its a hand im fine with raising pre bvb...i also felt fine with the flop overbet lead bc it looks a lot more like fd and small str draw combos so i think he will flat very wide. turn should probably just check let him bet worse...river idk wtf, i mean i know in the moment i thought jam looks busted fd and gets hero by Qx but in retrospect its clearly bad.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
HERO ($50) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 25.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 28% | River Agg: 23.8% | 3-Bet: 8.4% | 4-Bet: 14.4% |
BB ($86.51) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 18.9% | AGG: 33.6% | Flop Agg: 34.8% | Turn Agg: 36.3% | River Agg: 27.4% | 3-Bet: 9.7% | 4-Bet: 16.1% | Cold Call: 13.5% | Hands: 1019]
BTN ($69.05) [VPIP: 66.7% | PFR: 66.7% | AGG: 80% | Hands: 9]

Dealt to Hero: 4 Q

BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $1.50, BB Calls $1

Hero SPR on Flop: [16.17 effective]
Flop ($3): 4 5 Q
HERO Bets $3 (Rem. Stack: $45.50), BB Calls $3 (Rem. Stack: $82.01)

Turn ($9): 4 5 Q 6
HERO Bets $9 (Rem. Stack: $36.50), BB Calls $9 (Rem. Stack: $73.01)

River ($27): 4 5 Q 6 8
HERO Bets $36.50 (allin), BB Calls $36.50 (Rem. Stack: $36.51)

Spoiler:

BB shows: Q 8

BB wins: $99
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10-21-2021 , 10:03 PM
*if i flat turn on hand 1 probably calling most river sizes from him on the river, not sure what i do vs a jam.
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10-22-2021 , 02:49 AM
Good to.see you.again.

H1 looks wp imo
H2 is terrible preflop but you already know that, post flop I think you played it perfectly
H3 I don't hate flop and turn but the river shove is awful.

Have noticed in many hands you play them like it's going to be the last hand you ever play in your life and you wanna go out guns a blazing. I think you should just simplify to 1 flop sizing for a while until you do some studying and learn what sizing is best and on which board textures. You can't go wrong with cbetting small with your entire range. Makes all turn and river decision points easier to handle.
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10-23-2021 , 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyPeru
Good to.see you.again.

H1 looks wp imo
H2 is terrible preflop but you already know that, post flop I think you played it perfectly
H3 I don't hate flop and turn but the river shove is awful.

Have noticed in many hands you play them like it's going to be the last hand you ever play in your life and you wanna go out guns a blazing. I think you should just simplify to 1 flop sizing for a while until you do some studying and learn what sizing is best and on which board textures. You can't go wrong with cbetting small with your entire range. Makes all turn and river decision points easier to handle.

Thx yeah end of h3 was spazz, easy check and let him fire busted draws etc. he probably x behind any value but he’s folding that (with the exception of his actually hand) to jam anyways.
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11-01-2021 , 09:10 PM
Well October was a pretty indifferent month for challenge despite being best month of poker overall ever for me. I DID mostly break even at nl25 6max losing only about -.25bb/100 but I also played less than 10k hands of 6max. I think I could have played better for sure but my midj and energy weren’t very on point during those online sessions and I punted a few big spots without much regard.

Have a ton of non poker stuff I need to handle this week but then I’m hoping to dive back into challenge and get back to posting hands 2-3 times/week. I’ll still be playing nl25 online for November then will move up to the nl50 in December regardless with about 2.5 months remaining (at that time) to hit the desired outcome for challenge.

I’ll post some hands tomorrow from previous sessions if I get the chance to.

***oh yeah...good chance I might be moving back to Vegas in a few months!!! I love the beach here but I’m not a huge fan of the southeast and I’ve been missing Vegas since I left.
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11-21-2021 , 11:12 PM
Bleh lot of life stuff happening have put the challenge on hiatus still.

Been playing as much of the live plo as I can get which is about 50 hr weeks and 8-10 hours of driving a week bc right now I’m printing $ in that game...can’t find the energy/motivation to get online around that lately.

Put nearly all my free $ in on the Rivian ipo and got out close to +160% then made more off the puts contracts I hedged with when it dropped back some. Got a new car (just a Nissan suv I need practicality at the moment). Locked up an apartment in Vegas and am set to move back first week of February. I’ll be in Orlando few days for TG but may pop into the Orange City plo.

With all that said I think I have to just focus on live game for the next few months make as much $ as I can to be where I want heading back to Vegas. Going to revisit challenge when I get settled in and figure out what sites I can play and do things right/commit properly again.

Last edited by wheydacheese; 11-21-2021 at 11:28 PM.
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02-26-2022 , 12:47 AM
Wanted to provide a life update here, just completed move. Ended up just moving up into Jacksonville Fl to be beside the rooms I was playing in rather than returning to Vegas right now. I was worried about Vegas poker still being potentially too inconsistent and I couldn’t take that chance right now with the amount of $$$ I have been making in the plo games here in Jax. I still miss the city a lot and will plan some trips this year for some tournaments and cash games. Haven’t played a single hand online since taking break from this challenge/thread.

Having just completed the move I am wanting to get back into this challenge as I felt I was growing at a much faster pace in nlh than previously and I feel like that had really stagnated lately since I have been live plo exclusively.

I’m waiting on desk+chair but I do have gig speed internet here and my brother in law gave me his 1080gfx card just need a bigger psu to run it. I have decided to declare this particular challenge thread a FAIL and just restart rather than break the original confines of the challenge by extending it further.

I will post the new thread here when I get started up, same theme of beating nl25 then nl50 6max. Differences will be I will only be able to play a few hours a day due to the rest of my current life scheduled and also I will be adding a mic/cam and streaming every session in its entirety. Time frame of new challenge to be determined. I will post hands 2-3 times a week as well as be open to discussion on any hands from stream. Probably going to fire this up in a couple weeks; again I’ll post the new thread and the stream channel in here at that time. Thx for following losing nl25 6max to beating nl50 6max in 6mo
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