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08-19-2020 , 07:24 PM
I'm 25, working full time in London. If something comes of this, great, if not, I want to get better either way.

Here's where I'm at. My lifetime results at 10z-25z are breakeven to losing. As you can see from my results, I've got 800k hands over 3 years which is not a lot of volume for someone who wants to improve to crush and beat 25z.

I've put in 320 hours so far this year, so 40 hours/month as a mix of study and play. Not enough for my liking.

So for the beginning phase of this challenge the only thing I'm gonna work on is putting in time. On table, off table, you name it. I just have to clock in and achieve productive hours. It'd be great to clock in 100 hours a month as a starting goal (60-80 play, rest study), but I know I've never done that much, most hours i've ever done in one month is 60!!

Here's the challenge for this month. I want to get 70 hours/month next. See how that feels on my life. But we're in the middle of a month. so I will just say
(1) study/play 45 QUALITY hours before the 1st September.
I have 6 days of weekend / holiday. 6 days of weekday. 6 x 5 = 30 hours, 6 x 2.5 = 15 hours. So that should be 45 quality hours! I'll try to put in some extra time to give myself some padding too.

Let me guys know as well if you think it's realistic. To anyone who works full time, how many poker hours are you guys putting in on the side?

Old failed thread 1:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...20/?highlight=

Old failed thread 2:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...11/?highlight=

Lifetime results on Stars since beginning of first thread (negligible hands on 888/party, all on Stars):



3 years is a long time, so I've put my YTD here as well, which looks promising at first but I can feel old tilt coming in from my 25z shot taking results. Plus my previous results at 10z have me doubting whether I have actually improved or if it's just variance. But with more hours comes more sample, and we'll see.

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08-24-2020 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
gl OP
Thanks dude.


Got past the first big milestone of the four day weekend + today.
I've got 25/45 hours logged so far, not including today that's an average of under 6 hours per "weekend" which is more than I've usually put in the past.

I just have to eat, piss, **** - basically no excuses to get off this chair. Then commit and set a timer for 3 or 4 hours. Maybe I take 5 minutes to get up every now and then to keep moving. The crucial thing is to get my butt in the seat and once I do that I'm on a roll.

Currently on schedule to hit 45 hours by the end of month, but I'd much prefer to be ahead to give me some slack. I unexpectedly put in 4 hours today so if I do that, it would be great.

I find I have more motivation when I am constantly asking questions, making myself curious. Tonight I went into a deep rabbit hole after looking at regs and seeing if I could spot anything to add to my game. Take the best parts, leave the worst behind. So I started checking their moves against my database to see if it was right, and next thing I know it's 90 mins later and I think I've learned a lot.

Got 9k hands so far since the start of this thread, going breakeven ish in this segment. Pretty happy with the volume! I aim for 2hrs/day minimum grinding, and maybe more time on the weekend, which should work out to 45000 hands/month if I take no days off, which I will. So potentially 40k hands/month.
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08-24-2020 , 06:18 PM
Think you've gotta look at quality of play rather than quantity, gl tho g
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08-24-2020 , 07:17 PM
Gl on the tables - im currently playing 10NLZ quite a lot. Wanna exchange SNs and study together?
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08-24-2020 , 10:18 PM
In!

You on stars?
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08-25-2020 , 05:16 AM
Thanks guys!!

Quality of poker is not a problem for me, of course there’s always spots to improve but right now I just need to put the hours in.

Thanks for the offer of a study group, but I don’t even know you lol. No disrespect.

Yeah I’m on Stars, grinding 10z, hoping to shot 25z sometime soon.
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08-25-2020 , 05:38 AM
GL brother!
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08-25-2020 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler
Thanks guys!!

Quality of poker is not a problem for me, of course there’s always spots to improve but right now I just need to put the hours in.

Thanks for the offer of a study group, but I don’t even know you lol. No disrespect.

Yeah I’m on Stars, grinding 10z, hoping to shot 25z sometime soon.
No problem - I don't think anyone at 10NLZ is a big name in poker haha. Just thought it'd be good to discuss population tendencies whilst playing etc.

Good luck on the tables fella.
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08-25-2020 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Shipnickle
GL brother!
Thanks man!

Don’t normally update this quick but thought I’d make a note of when I started playing on RunItOnce poker again. Today.

I played ZOOM for quick improvement and quick volume. But it’s 101% rakeback week and I can’t say no to 5bb/100 extra.
Also, anonymous tables are super good - find a winning strategy, keep playing it, print. You can try all sorts of ridiculous exploits and no one will stop you.

The best thing IMO is the ability to see all cards after 24 hours. This will help education so much!!! Seeing if I’m getting bluffed or not etc. The only thing I’m worried about is that the pool is small, so if I use a lot of sizings that no others do, it might let them know what’s up. But maybe I’ll just need to adapt ranges that way. Let’s see.
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08-28-2020 , 03:14 AM
34 hours so far, 2 hours today, 5 tomorrow, 5 on Sunday, and I can even have the Monday off (I won't).

I just remembered Monday is a bank holiday in the UK so I may aim for 50 hours. It's only fair.


Time to show some hands.

H1
RunItOnce - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 224 BB
BB: 128.65 BB
BTN: 127.9 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 6 3 4
Hero checks, BB bets 5.6 BB, Hero calls 5.6 BB

Turn: (29.2 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets 20.65 BB, fold

Spoiler:
BB wins 27.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BB has J 9




H2: he folded and said "thanks" like he made some amazing hero fold.
RunItOnce - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 187.55 BB
BB: 177.25 BB
UTG: 231.3 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 116.9 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.1 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.9 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 9 4 7
Hero bets 19.8 BB, BTN calls 19.8 BB

Turn: (60.6 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 157.75 BB, fold

Spoiler:
Hero wins 57.1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BTN has J J


H3
RunItOnce - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 209.6 BB
BTN: 152.15 BB
SB: 148.4 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 190.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 20 BB, BTN calls 12 BB

Flop: (41.5 BB, 2 players) 6 5 A
Hero bets 9.8 BB, BTN calls 9.8 BB

Turn: (61.1 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (61.1 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 122.35 BB, fold

Spoiler:
BTN wins 57.6 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BTN has 8 9
Overbets still nutted here lol


H4
RunItOnce - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 158 BB
SB: 116.65 BB
BB: 114.55 BB
CO: 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) T A 8
BB checks, Hero bets 1.75 BB, BB raises to 7.05 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, fold

Spoiler:
Hero wins 20.35 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BB has 7 9


H5
RunItOnce - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 104.5 BB
Hero (BB): 105 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 115.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, BTN raises to 25 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

Flop: (50.5 BB, 2 players) Q 3 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (72.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 15.5 BB, Hero calls 15.5 BB

River: (103.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 64 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 53.5 BB

Spoiler:
Hero wins 205.5 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BTN has 4 A
Such a refreshing change from NitStars to be able to close your eyes and click call, and you'll never be that wrong.



H6
RunItOnce - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 116.4 BB
BTN: 114.9 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

BTN raises to 2.25 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

Flop: (49 BB, 2 players) 9 T 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 90.9 BB and is all-in, fold

Spoiler:
BTN wins 46.2 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) BTN has K K
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08-28-2020 , 12:26 PM
really don't like turn in H2, the 7 specifically causes equities to shift quite a bit which strongly militates against jamming this kind of hand specifically. would like it more on e.g. 2s

rest varies between fine and whatever IMO
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08-31-2020 , 03:46 PM
SUCCESS, 50 hours since the start of this blog. The two days of holiday I had + today's bank holiday let me have 15 hours more than I usually would.

At this pace I've got 20 hours/week to work on my game and grind, which doesn't seem like a lot. 5/day on the weekend and 2/day on the weekdays. I've definitely had my fair share of PS4 time, so there's room for more time to put in.


In terms of time quality, I want to spend as much time as possible grinding 25z. It's a waste of time to grind 10z where I'm at minimum a winning player. I'm prepared to go -$500 at 25z before I move down. But the point is I get the hands in and adapt quickly. Analyse everything I can.

I spent the first 5k hands at 25z getting owned because the PF overfold exploits I made at 10z were getting rekt by the more aggressive pool. It's time to start 4betting more often, and fold less to flop/turn check-raises.

Next step for me is to learn pool's avg. PF ranges. I recently learned how to pull reports at a more advanced level on PT4. So I can see hands that went to showdown when I was at the table, even if i didn't see showdown myself. Then I look at pool stats, and use a bit of deductive reasoning, and work out what ranges I'm getting hit with. Then I build my ranges around them and make sure I hold on tight postflop.

Guess where I started shot taking?


Will post hands when I've got a bigger sample on my adjusted strats where I stopped overfolding so much.


Going to try for 50 hours over the next fortnight, which is 10 hours over the pace I did the last 11 days.
To do:
- make GTO+ sims for BN/CO/MP/UG vs SB
- make GTO+ sims for BN/CO/MP/UG vs BB
- make GTO+ sims for EP vs IP caller
- study them
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08-31-2020 , 06:02 PM
you've identified a very significant portion of the game tree in what you're proposing to sim in the next fortnight. I'd be a bit more conservative with your expectations about what you can realistically gain from study in the space of two weeks, or be more specific about the way in which you expect to study these sims
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08-31-2020 , 06:05 PM
Yeah, I don't know how you expect to sim all those that quick. My BUvsBB sim of 1755 flops is taking me about 500 hours of solve time. So if you are solving a decently sized subset for any of those will take a while.
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08-31-2020 , 07:20 PM
My intention is more to have a vague idea of the preflop ranges I’m going to face in each position, vs each position.

Then make 10-20 flops and just get a general idea of how it plays. I will also make the tree smaller by analysing the most common sizings and just giving the villain one sizing. E.g. at 10z they love half pot bets, so that’s what I’m going to run the solver with. I’ll also avoid giving villain overbets since not everyone does that, and when they do it s usually the nuts. So that part of the game tree is cut out.

I’ve already got these sims using different ranges based off of charts and what the videos I’ve seen have said about PF ranges. But none tailored to 25z ranges, where they don’t 3bet enough but call too much pre.

Also I’m not setting a hard deadline of 2 weeks, if it takes longer I’m prepared for that. I just know that’s where my game is lacking.

1755 flops is impractical IMO, you’ll never look at all of them. It would be better to take 15 flops and spread them across 10 types of trees or something. E.g. what if your oppponent never overbets? What if his bet sizing is only an overbet in a specific spot? What if he uses a multiple sizings? What if he has a donking range? What if he never does? That doesn’t even mention the slight differences in preflop ranges. You’ll play very differently in a SRP vs a 20% 3bettor compared to an 8% 3bettor. If you have 30 king high flops, the average cbet% won’t be too different from having 150 king high flops.
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09-04-2020 , 04:00 AM
Hey OP, how is it going? I'm curious if your studies work out for you
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09-04-2020 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler
My intention is more to have a vague idea of the preflop ranges I’m going to face in each position, vs each position.

Then make 10-20 flops and just get a general idea of how it plays. I will also make the tree smaller by analysing the most common sizings and just giving the villain one sizing. E.g. at 10z they love half pot bets, so that’s what I’m going to run the solver with. I’ll also avoid giving villain overbets since not everyone does that, and when they do it s usually the nuts. So that part of the game tree is cut out.

I’ve already got these sims using different ranges based off of charts and what the videos I’ve seen have said about PF ranges. But none tailored to 25z ranges, where they don’t 3bet enough but call too much pre.

Also I’m not setting a hard deadline of 2 weeks, if it takes longer I’m prepared for that. I just know that’s where my game is lacking.

1755 flops is impractical IMO, you’ll never look at all of them. It would be better to take 15 flops and spread them across 10 types of trees or something. E.g. what if your oppponent never overbets? What if his bet sizing is only an overbet in a specific spot? What if he uses a multiple sizings? What if he has a donking range? What if he never does? That doesn’t even mention the slight differences in preflop ranges. You’ll play very differently in a SRP vs a 20% 3bettor compared to an 8% 3bettor. If you have 30 king high flops, the average cbet% won’t be too different from having 150 king high flops.
Yeah I totally agree that 1755 flops is impractical for general study. I've used the smaller163 subsets for most things. I'm trying to solve the 1755 in several spots so that generally when reviewing hands I will already have most spots solved. Right now I tag 10 to 20 hands per session, and then when I review those hands I run 2 to 5 through the solver. Once I have them all solved, I'll be able to look at any BUvsBB SRP spots in solver is already pre-solved. Obviously the issue with this is if the sizes I have assault for our vastly different sizes played in the hands that I'd have to resolve, but in a lot of spots sizings are quite similar so I can generally get a rough idea.

However overall obviously solving 1755 flops in most spots isn't really something that makes a ton of sense, but I don't see a reason not to be having the solver running.
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09-05-2020 , 01:15 PM
@WeirdBeard386 Hey hey, I'm not looking to update results too often, ideally 50k hand chunks. After running through a variance calc and realising how bad (or good) you can run in a short space of time I don't want to put too much weight in short term results. Even over 50k hands it's possible to runbad. I'm aware that makes me sound like I'm down and just don't want to show it lol, so on this occasion I will provide a graph:


Thse are my 25z ante results, part of which you can see the last graph I posted. As you can see the sample is tiny, I only have 2k-ish hands this month trying out new things I've learned. Then I realised there were more leaks needed plugging so I'm back to study lol. IMO I have run good/okay because while trying out my new strats I realise I am taking lines that I have not had anyone fight back against. If they do I suspect they will be value heavy, but I'm not sure I want to make such assumptions. I'd like to simply play the ranges that I do know, and hope the math takes care of itself.

Funny thing I picked up in my analysis - did you know when the 10z ante pool raises, they use 3bb as a sizing (from UG-BN) a majority of the time? But at 25z it's very close between 2.5bb, 3bb, and even 2bb is not that far behind!

The best way to look at results IMO is look at a sample, play around with a variance calulator, and then if you realise there is no chance you are currently a crusher, you need to change something urgently.


@TRUSTtheDRAWCESS

Fair enough if that works for you. I used to do what you did, but it wasn't sticking and I felt my biggest improvements come from sitting down and saying "okay today I learn how to play A/K/Q high flops in this spot"
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09-13-2020 , 03:14 PM
I'm nearing the 2 week mark from the beginning of the month, and I don't have anywhere near 50 hours.

I have put in 34 hours, twice as much study as playing. There's definitely room for improvement in putting more hours in. I could cut out the hour or so of PS4 I play before bed almost every night lol. Other than that I think this will be the pace I go at. I do enjoy it though, the point of poker is to make my life easier and not take away pleasures. But this conflicts with my idea that if I sacrifice the short term entertainment, it could pay off in the long run if I ever end up beating 100z. Not sure how I will tackle this yet. Maybe have one or two days off from the PS4 a week.

What I can do from here is make sure that the time I spend is quality, not quantity. It means aggressive shot taking. No need to grind stakes I'm a proven winner at. If I have less than 500 hands on someone, I won't bother taking heavy notes. Because I may not run into them again, nor be in that spot again even if I do. I will be putting a huge focus on study too, because playing mediocre 3bb/100 poker is a waste of time.


Here is what I said I would do:
- make GTO+ sims for BN/CO/MP/UG vs SB
- make GTO+ sims for BN/CO/MP/UG vs BB
- make GTO+ sims for EP vs IP caller
- study them

I did not do a lot of this lol. I have a sim for UG vs SB, UG vs BB, and one for BN vs SB, and BN vs BB. The four most common HU SRP IMO. The study I did was just vague looking at cbet % averages, seeing which boards are better for which player etc.

What I did do was:

1. Get the VPIP/PFR of the average player after I RFI from every position.
2. Take a look at the showdowns to see how linear/polar the 3bet ranges were.
3. Had a deep dive into postflop situations to see how to navigate them, not just learning how to play the bet/bet/bet line. I did this by using a combination of (1) and (2).

10k hands this month, running super hot. Despite that I have played with the variance calculator and in the worst case scenario I am at least breakeven. I don't want to set my hopes high for now though, just grind and get better. Will try to put in 50 hours from tomorrow until the end of the month.

Game plan for the next week is to look at my dubious EP / MP / CO winrates and be dead sure that I'm playing the best I can. It's super hard from these positions though because a lot of pots end up multiway and/or OOP. Let's see.

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 114.4 BB
SB: 111.4 BB
BB: 91.8 BB
Hero (UTG): 205.04 BB
MP: 115.6 BB
CO: 100 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has K K

Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 11 BB, fold, Hero raises to 24.4 BB, SB calls 13.4 BB

Flop: (50.52 BB, 2 players) T J 9
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (50.52 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

River: (82.52 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 70.88 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 70.88 BB


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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 124.04 BB
SB: 115.32 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 121 BB
MP: 89.12 BB
CO: 119.08 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has 5 2

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.72 BB, 2 players) 3 6 K
SB bets 4.4 BB, Hero raises to 13.52 BB, SB calls 9.12 BB

Turn: (33.76 BB, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets 19.36 BB, SB calls 19.36 BB

River: (72.48 BB, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 70.64 BB
SB: 81.24 BB
BB: 115 BB
UTG: 121.44 BB
MP: 100 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has T T

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, MP calls 2.2 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 7.8 BB

Flop: (24.32 BB, 2 players) 7 3 A
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (24.32 BB, 2 players) J
MP checks, Hero checks

River: (24.32 BB, 2 players) 5
MP bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Spew, should never be doing this without some sort of draw equity unless there are absolutely no draws on the board. In which case I need to know which combos rare best to x/r with. Tbh I only need to do this if they're stabbing too much, which they may not be.
BTN: 401.72 BB
SB: 123.4 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 104.44 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 100 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.56 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11.2 BB, BTN calls 8.64 BB

Flop: (23.52 BB, 2 players) 8 5 5
Hero bets 7.4 BB, BTN calls 7.4 BB

Turn: (38.32 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 12.08 BB, Hero raises to 81.28 BB and is all-in

River: (200.88 BB, 2 players) 3

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 107.92 BB
SB: 107.36 BB
BB: 282.92 BB
Hero (UTG): 137.4 BB
MP: 160.84 BB
CO: 106.08 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 2.48 BB, MP raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 26 BB, MP calls 17 BB

Flop: (54.12 BB, 2 players) 8 3 J
Hero bets 17.04 BB, MP calls 17.04 BB

Turn: (88.2 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, MP bets 41 BB, Hero raises to 94.24 BB and is all-in

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 152.76 BB
SB: 227.44 BB
BB: 200.6 BB
UTG: 156.52 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 107 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has A K

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6.6 BB

Flop: (21.32 BB, 2 players) 4 Q T
UTG checks, Hero bets 12.2 BB, UTG calls 12.2 BB

Turn: (45.72 BB, 2 players) 8
UTG checks, Hero bets 26.2 BB, UTG calls 26.2 BB

River: (98.12 BB, 2 players) 8
UTG checks, Hero bets 51.88 BB and is all-in

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 106.96 BB
BB: 93.6 BB
UTG: 183 BB
MP: 138.24 BB
CO: 93 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, CO calls 9 BB

Flop: (25.72 BB, 2 players) J T 6
Hero checks, CO bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (47.72 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 83.84 BB and is all-in, CO calls 46.88 BB and is all-in

River: (187.48 BB, 2 players) 5

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 109.08 BB
SB: 213.72 BB
BB: 34.64 BB
UTG: 159.48 BB
MP: 84.28 BB
CO: 214.64 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has K J

UTG raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.4 BB, fold, BB calls 7.4 BB, UTG raises to 23 BB, Hero calls 14.6 BB, BB raises to 34.52 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 11.52 BB, Hero calls 11.52 BB

Flop: (104.68 BB, 3 players) Q 2 9
UTG bets 31 BB, fold

Turn: (104.68 BB, 2 players) J

River: (104.68 BB, 2 players) 3

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PokerStars - $0.25 Ante $0.03 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 37.68 BB
SB: 132.96 BB
BB: 109.44 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 253.76 BB
Hero (CO): 102.6 BB

6 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has 5 A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 6.2 BB

Flop: (20.52 BB, 2 players) A J 4
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (20.52 BB, 2 players) 2
MP bets 17.24 BB, Hero calls 17.24 BB

River: (55 BB, 2 players) Q
MP bets 17.32 BB, fold
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09-13-2020 , 05:35 PM
H2: Not sure this is a call pre with the rake? I think I would just shut down turn, and barrel ones that have more equity like 54/JT/T9s?
Considering his size leans more towards non range c-betting, when he condenses that range by calling, on the turn I think you need more and thus have some give ups like this.

What's your roll for 25z?
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09-14-2020 , 04:31 AM
Maybe 52s is a call pre, maybe it isn’t. We’re never gonna know lol, but the decision is probably based more on how well we can outplay SB postflop. Hand selection is not a big deal IMO we can give up 54 and bet this if we want. Though that’s a v good point about his flop sizing. I missed that completely.

Not setting a bankroll for 25z, I’m not here to make money I’m here to check my skill level is good enough. I track my results and for me that’s enough to make decisions about what stake I should play. If I hit any huge downswings I’ll just deposit since I’m in full time work. Why would I move down and play 10z if I’m good enough for it? It’s a waste of time.

I’ll probs have a BR system at 50z since I have no intention of going into my savings just to grind it up. At that point the swings could potentially be more than I’m willing to reload with.

I have 20BI in my account at the moment, so if I lose that I will need to reload. I’ll move up after 50k hands as a winner, less if my winrate is double digits, more if I think my game needs work.
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09-14-2020 , 05:57 AM
I don't think we fold anything pre in 52s spot just because the pot is already so huge and the raise isn't very big. Think we probably want to go either smaller or bigger. When we get to the river it's naturally a decent candidate to bluff based solely on the fact that EV(check) = 0 (maaaybe very slightly higher b/c we chop with 54 and some players may see river with that hand), but I get that because very few of our bluffs improve, unless we're exploiting something we need to have some giveups (though because of the above point I prolly prefer giving up 75). Frequency control is important though because a lot of players at micros will just convince themselves that they're bluffing more than they are.
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10-01-2020 , 03:51 AM
hey guys, not much to update.

I have put in 103 hours this month! Will stop making hourly goals. I've shown I can do it, I know what it takes.

Month's results. Started off really well, then I've just hit a wall where nothing seems to go my way. Hopefully I can turn it around.


The next goal for me is to stop autopilot. Maybe narrate my play in my head or something. Too often I will just click buttons and then realise "yeah he's never bluffing there" or "why the f did i just check that back"

May drop down to two tables or something and focus on saying every bit of available information. e.g. "two shortstacks on left, aggro reg in BB". Or "2bet pot b/x/b line is this typically bluffed?"

So next fortnight goals (may extend to a month depending on how i feel):
1. 2 tables max
2. Eye gaze on tables only, no browsing even when card dead
3. No music

A nice goal would be to stop the bleeding, but I have no control over that. If my decisions are good, then I'm happy.
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10-02-2020 , 10:01 AM
25z is driving me round the bend at the minute. Any pointers? Seems to be a lot of cold calling in position going on
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