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03-15-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DegenPhilosophy
i hate asking for handouts but yea if I go busto thats the only option though ill make sure it doesnt come to that and yea im none of those nationalities listed
Best of luck on your journey.
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03-15-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DegenPhilosophy
Maybe there is no other explanation to you since you have a limited thought process. Its really not that hard for someone to go from 200nl reg with a good roll to busto when your main income is poker idk what youre talking about.

And I don't need your advice/recommendations, thanks. I started playing poker beginning of 2014 and had guys like you tell me I'm dumb for assuming I can make 10k/year off poker and by the end of that year I had moved overseas and started playing poker fulltime far surpassing my expectations and now I can crush guys like you who have been around much longer than me. I've had a few setbacks along the way but nothing I can't handle. I love it when guys like you give me advice/tell me what to do on your high horse, I looooove it. What credentials have you got? Just come back at the end of the year and lets see what you got to say. You'll be shinning my shoes son.
If you had a "good roll" at 200nl and lost it, that tells me you weren't good enough to beat that limit in the first place. And 10k/year is an absolute pittance, definitely not something to boast about lol.
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03-15-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DegenPhilosophy
i hate asking for handouts but yea if I go busto thats the only option though ill make sure it doesnt come to that and yea im none of those nationalities listed
Why dont you look for a backer? and short term deal?

Its not a handout as its good business for both parties, youll increase your hourly, get out of the hole quicker, etc.

gl
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03-16-2017 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PotLuckNeeded
Best of luck on your journey.
thankss

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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
If you had a "good roll" at 200nl and lost it, that tells me you weren't good enough to beat that limit in the first place. And 10k/year is an absolute pittance, definitely not something to boast about lol.
you obvs don't know what youre talking about, not gonna explain it though... And I'm not boasting about that, learn to read lol youre so off

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Originally Posted by purrretrog
Why dont you look for a backer? and short term deal?

Its not a handout as its good business for both parties, youll increase your hourly, get out of the hole quicker, etc.

gl
I'll try to ride it out first to see what happens, and ty
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03-16-2017 , 06:15 PM
So I continued at 4nl and got to $170 and took a 10nl shot today that went pretty good. Probably off to bed now.

closing roll:$227
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03-16-2017 , 06:46 PM
Where are you playing right now?
Gl in your climb
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03-16-2017 , 06:50 PM
lol dude you already are busto but i guess i see where you're coming from. trog got it right tho, if i had a friend who was a winning player and needed a stake i'd be happy to do it, esp at lowstakes where there's 0 variance, it's just free money for me.

only a couple months and you should be back at 50/100nl and then you'll be fine.

gl
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03-16-2017 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DegenPhilosophy
you obvs don't know what youre talking about, not gonna explain it though... And I'm not boasting about that, learn to read lol youre so off
You lost a whole bankroll, which should not happen to a winning player. So either you didn't apply correct bankroll management, or you didn't have the skill to beat those stakes. Which is it? It's one of the two (or both).

Agree with the guy above, get a stake if you're serious. They'd be more than happy to offer you one if you're a winning player. Particularly as you claim to be "one of the strongest" at 50nl.
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03-17-2017 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Starboy
Where are you playing right now?
Gl in your climb
I prefer not to mention this here sorry lol, and thanks

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Originally Posted by DangerNoodle
lol dude you already are busto but i guess i see where you're coming from. trog got it right tho, if i had a friend who was a winning player and needed a stake i'd be happy to do it, esp at lowstakes where there's 0 variance, it's just free money for me.

only a couple months and you should be back at 50/100nl and then you'll be fine.

gl
I'll be back at 100nl faster than a couple a months, hopefuly one more month if things go good, I think I can get out of this.

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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
You lost a whole bankroll, which should not happen to a winning player. So either you didn't apply correct bankroll management, or you didn't have the skill to beat those stakes. Which is it? It's one of the two (or both).

Agree with the guy above, get a stake if you're serious. They'd be more than happy to offer you one if you're a winning player. Particularly as you claim to be "one of the strongest" at 50nl.
Some of us have bills to pay and don't live at our parents house. I overspent and didn't play enough, it happens, has nothing to do with my actual skill as player. I've beat 200nl over significant samples over a year ago and have even played a bit recently, even though the sample was insignificant it was enough for me to assess the competition and I'd bet anything that I can still beat 200nl with a solid wr, as long as I table select properly. I even believe I can beat the rake on some of the eastern european regs who I'm able to still exploit.

And most the stakes I'll find would be the same ones offered to recreational wannabes and I'm not willing to play on that as long as I have the chance to continue on my own, I also don't want to go around asking for a stake as I consider that as somewhat of a handout also even though I'm being ripped off. I don't need any help though I can do this on my own, like I said before POKER IS MY BTCH
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03-17-2017 , 08:48 AM
Being a good Poker player does not only relate to playing a good game. One attribute to a successful Poker professional is being disciplined. If you went broke off your own back, then you made mistakes as a Poker player, and as such, that reflects on your Poker ability. There's not a single HS Pro nowadays who isnt disciplined.
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03-17-2017 , 09:05 AM
There's not a single highstakes pro being broke? Really? I am really surprised!
Must be the reason they are considered being highstakes pros, right?

Common guys, let the dude do his thing. It's not like snap! you're a pro. There are guys that suck at spending money and making decisions off the table. In order to keep a roll going, you got to be disciplined. But, that has not necessarily something to do with him not having the potential to beat the games. He should definitely work on bankroll/life management.

GL, OP. Don't let those guys drag you down.
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03-17-2017 , 09:24 AM
GL Op on your quest !

You gotta to understand the skeptism of 2p2 peers,besides you're the one who share your experience/journey first here

Wishing you nothing but the best..I know it's hard living overseas..

Cheers
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03-17-2017 , 09:29 AM
In order to make it to highstakes you need to somewhat enjoy the gambling aspect of the game and have somewhat gambler type personality in very most cases. For sure theres highstakes pros who take shots that are too high for their rolls and spend money stupid ways and might even go broke. Of course theres not so many anymore but still exists for sure!.

Poker is for sure a ***** for OP, hope you make it to nl5!!
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03-17-2017 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DegenPhilosophy
Some of us have bills to pay and don't live at our parents house. I overspent and didn't play enough, it happens, has nothing to do with my actual skill as player. I've beat 200nl over significant samples over a year ago and have even played a bit recently, even though the sample was insignificant it was enough for me to assess the competition and I'd bet anything that I can still beat 200nl with a solid wr, as long as I table select properly. I even believe I can beat the rake on some of the eastern european regs who I'm able to still exploit.

And most the stakes I'll find would be the same ones offered to recreational wannabes and I'm not willing to play on that as long as I have the chance to continue on my own, I also don't want to go around asking for a stake as I consider that as somewhat of a handout also even though I'm being ripped off. I don't need any help though I can do this on my own, like I said before POKER IS MY BTCH
First it was losing the roll on poker, now it's over-spending irl. You have huge discipline problems and a huge ego/probably not as good as you think you are - both are a recipe for disaster as a poker pro.

Maybe you will make it. Personally I predict 1-2 years from now, you will be busto and in exactly the same situation (if not a worse situation). Degens like you never change unfortunately. You will blow your money somehow - whether that be playing games way beyond your bankroll, over-estimating your skill level, over-spending etc.

Good luck anyway!
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03-17-2017 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Personally I predict 1-2 years from now, you will be busto and in exactly the same situation (if not a worse situation). Degens like you never change unfortunately.

Good luck anyway!
Haters like you also never change.You will be negative and unhappy person for the rest of your life, so accept it.People like you never change unfortunately.

Good luck anyway!
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03-17-2017 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Maybe you will make it. Personally I predict 1-2 years from now, you will be busto and in exactly the same situation (if not a worse situation). Degens like you never change unfortunately. You will blow your money somehow - whether that be playing games way beyond your bankroll, over-estimating your skill level, over-spending etc.

Good luck anyway!
Now you are just trying to pull down OP!

I can confirm that people do change, even degens, I was one of them.
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03-31-2017 , 11:50 PM
Hey so just a little update, I'm still alive. Not happy to say but these past 2 weeks or so I haven't grinded much even though I really should have I just procrastinated a lot as I was worrying too much about running bad as my roll was down to $100. I played maybe 20k hands in the past 2 weeks, I'm nearly 2 months behind on my rent now and my gf has been paying my expenses, I'm going to try and clear my rb points asap so I can pay off my bills. I'll try to make up for the lack of last months sample this month. I stopped using my adhd meds and I've quit smoking/been working out regularly now so other than poker things have been good. I played 3k hands today 10nl-25nl-50nl and ran pretty good but I'm still hurting pretty bad so I need to seriously up my sample. Thanks to all the guys who are showing support, I appreciate it, as for the guys being negative towards me ead and watch me crush

current roll: $288
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04-03-2017 , 02:31 AM
So I played about 3.3k hands today mainly at 25nl but also a bit of 50nl, I was aiming for 5k but started a bit late and traffic has really died off now so I'm gonna call it a day. I was up to $500 at one point but hit a couple unlucky spots towards the end and I made bad bluff in a pretty big pot at 50nl but I'm still up about $100 so can't really complain

closing roll: $382
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04-03-2017 , 05:47 AM
Maybe you should take a look into your bankroll management. Why would you play 25nl or even 50nl with anything under a $700 roll? You're not even allowed to lose like 4 buyins, which is nothing.
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04-03-2017 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by siebenacht
Maybe you should take a look into your bankroll management. Why would you play 25nl or even 50nl with anything under a $700 roll? You're not even allowed to lose like 4 buyins, which is nothing.
I'm savage
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04-04-2017 , 01:26 AM
played 25nl today and ran pretty nice, traffics dead now so gonna call it day

closing roll: $567

the bad news is I started smoking again, but just when I play. I figured right now may not be the best time to quit as it may be a -ev decision at this point in time and I've been running much better since I took it up again but as soon as I'm comfortable with my roll and not stressing too much I'll quit for good
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04-04-2017 , 07:15 AM
Traffic picked up and I wasn't feeling all that tired so decided to play some more 25nl and continued running good, I'm off to bed now

closing roll: $685
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04-04-2017 , 07:19 AM
Nice, glgl, your bankroll slowly gets to the point where you are allowed to play the games you are actually playing, lol.
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04-04-2017 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by siebenacht
Nice, glgl, your bankroll slowly gets to the point where you are allowed to play the games you are actually playing, lol.
thanks haha, there is a difference though between brm and a shot-taking strategy, as long as I keep a somewhat decent 'cushion' for 10nl/4nl. Obvs I won't be playing 10nl until I'm down to $16. The commonly advocated 30-40bi rule is mainly if you haven't yet beaten the stake youre attempting to/aren't too comfortable with your mental game. I am sort of pushing the limits here for my shot-take strategy but I don't have the luxury to take my time rn with expenses and all plus I'm confident enough in my mental game to not let downswings alter my decisions too much. There's nothing mathematically wrong with using a 4bi shot take strategy as long as you have a solid cushion assuming you don't tilt
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04-04-2017 , 08:38 AM


got this email from stars yesterday, seems like they finally decided to pull the trigger and are practically annihilating their 'rb', similar to 888. This sucks cause whenever stars increases rake/decreases rb other sites tend follow in their footsteps, PP has already mentioned that they are implementing a new loyalty program in the upcoming quarter. That plus now all the stars regs are going to flood other sites, obvs the recs couldn't care less. I hope to get to a solid roll by summer cause this will definitely impact my overall wr. Whats worse is this time they didn't even use that old line about 'redistributing to recreational players' bs, meaning stars just doesn't even bother trying to bull**** regs anymore and are practically just doing whatever they want assuming nothing will change (and they're probably right).

People are all hyped about galfonds rio site and I hope it works out but realistically even with a kickass marketing strategy its gonna be awhile until they possibly develop a healthy ecosystem, maybe I'm wrong but I don't see how the sites going to be anything less that a complete regfest in the first year or two, maybe they'll start with a rewards program that offers up to 100% rb? Either way live poker is where its been heading for years now. I aim to transition to live once I have the roll, and possibly start playing mtts or plo till then cause nlh 6m cash games are ground zero for poker rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QiAwiA0nIE

posted in other thread lol

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