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03-12-2017 , 01:28 PM
Well my bankroll is currently at $32, how did I get in this mess you might ask? There is a long backstory of events leading up to this point but to save us time I'll ignore all the bs prior to 2017, which there was quite a bit of, and just start off from the beginning of this year.

I guess it can all be summed up into runbad, but theres a bit more to it. I started off the year with about 2k, pretty bad when you account for the fact that not too long ago I was regging 200nl tables with a healthy roll and shot taking at 400nl, but for me it still wasn't too bad since I was sort of crawling month to month for most of 2016 and my monthly expenses are only about $600-$700 atm.

This year I decided to get my life and money management skills in order, I was working pretty hard towards this goal at the end of last year and getting better. Then January hit, I started of this year finding a site which offered HU tables with no rake and all recreational players (no joke). This is an exclusive site with very little traffic and I doubt many people will know of it, youre right to question the legitimacy of it. That said I won't mention it here for obvious reasons, sorry. Anyways I was way under rolled to play but couldn't help myself watching these players punt off stacks so ended up putting most my roll on it and losing nearly everything. I decided I won't come back to it until I've built a semi sufficient roll, this was near the end of January, also around this time was when stars announced how they're going to make all players anon, making seat selection very difficult, on top of once again decreasing their rb (stars was my main site at this time), I was sn last year but even thats not that noteworthy, though after this I decided to just play on another site.

So I started out on this new site, ran bad and here I am :/. Yea I guess I could've just said runbad, anyways heres my graph so far this year (the site I played hu site doesn't hold hh)



jftr my straights and flushes are on the faar left side of my bellcurve with my sets being about normal, I also feel my board connectivity in general has just been really bad. Not to justify anything but I'm pretty sure I'm stronger than 5bb/100 player.

Anyways if I go busto I'm pretty ****ed. So yes this is a sick situation but I've had much darker times in my life and poker is my btch as is mental game so I think I have an okay chance at getting myself out of this and I'll grind 2nl if I have to. Just thought making a challenge thread would help, I haven't made one of these since starting out in poker but yea if you wanna see some degen variance feel free to follow, enjoy the swings

starting roll: $32
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03-12-2017 , 01:50 PM
Idk how long I'll keep this going given I'm not busto. I was planning to get to 200nl and have a 6 figure year, that may be a little farfetched now seeing as I'm grinding 2nl lol so I'll say my goal is to make 50k this year (rb included) I think with normal variance I can attain that. Also if I can secure at least a 20k roll by the end of the year (post expenses obvs) I'll donate 5% of my winnings to charity
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03-14-2017 , 12:37 PM
got $100 from last months rake race and won a bit at 2nl,

starting roll: $136
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03-14-2017 , 12:51 PM
So there's this mysterious site charging zero rake, no regs, full of fish endlessly punting off stacks. You deposit your roll on there and lose almost everything.

Story doesn't add up I'm afraid.
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03-14-2017 , 12:55 PM
so my brm/shot take strategy from here on will go like this;
$0-$100: 2nl
$100-$170: 4nl
$170-$275: 10nl
$275-$550: 25nl
$550-$1100: 50nl
$1100-$2200: 100nl

at $2200 I will start shot taking at 200nl when games are good
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03-14-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
So there's this mysterious site charging zero rake, no regs, full of fish endlessly punting off stacks. You deposit your roll on there and lose almost everything.

Story doesn't add up I'm afraid.
you can believe it or not idc but I'm not lying, the table that were $150+ hu are the ones that didn't charge rake iirc the lower stakes tables did, there is a reason why there are no regs on this site and thats mainly because its not actually targeted at poker players per se but I won't go into more detail than that. When I found the site I remember thinking its too good to be true (had some suspicions), but there is a reason no real player knows of it (also its fairly new). Lets be serious though if I wanted to justify losing my roll I think I could've made up a better lie than this but yea thats all the info you'll get out of me regarding this.

as for me losing my roll i was playing hu with like 10 bi's and idk if you know how poker works but yea...
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03-14-2017 , 01:28 PM
There's a reason no players plays on these sites, most of them have superusers and you end up losing your roll eventually.
If you want endless fishes hu just move to italy or portugal.
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03-14-2017 , 04:19 PM
Did you ever withdraw from the site?
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03-14-2017 , 05:44 PM
I think the sites legit, ik a guy who knows the owner and a lot of the guys I was playing against I've seen donking around at the lower stakes and the play seemed pretty legit for the most part other than me running bad for a small sample. The sites definitely sketchy and I'm not ruling anything out but I think its a fair site.

And yes I did withdraw once and know other guys who have withdrawn theres some other stuff I'd mention here but yea I kind of want to drop this topic as I plan on going back there and I really don't want anyone good to start playing there, traffics really tiny anyway so its not like printing money or anything but still I'm sure you guys would do the same.

Anyways I played some 4nl, was planning to play minimum 4k hands but feeling pretty tired so gonna hit the sack after 3.2k

closing roll: $153
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03-14-2017 , 05:54 PM
also I was thinking that I can make something positive of my downswing so I've decided to finally quit smoking, which is kinda hard as I've gotten into the bad habit of smoking while I play. Been chewing this nicorette gum all day, it isn't the same but I guess it helps
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03-15-2017 , 01:13 AM
If your really beating nl200, look for job to save up money / stake to get yourself to stakes you should be playing, not nl4.

Imo your story doesnt make much sense at all I think you have some casino / drug / other major problem / debt. Or your skills werent even close to being solid nl200 reg with healthy roll.
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03-15-2017 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiljusieppo
If your really beating nl200, look for job to save up money / stake to get yourself to stakes you should be playing, not nl4.

Imo your story doesnt make much sense at all I think you have some casino / drug / other major problem / debt. Or your skills werent even close to being solid nl200 reg with healthy roll.
thats your opinion, fact is I'm probably one of the strongest players at 50nl> and imo I'm still beating 200nl though thats not really a fact since I haven't played any significant samples in over a year. I live overseas so a job isn't really an option atm, I've been living solely off poker for nearly 3 years now and yea I had some problem not too long ago though its none of what you mention and I prefer not to really go into detail on this but it pretty much led me to to overspend and not put in enough hours at work which is for the most part why i find myself in this situation
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03-15-2017 , 03:56 AM
"regging 200nl tables with a healthy roll and shot taking at 400nl,"

Oh, okay now I get it. I first misread you were saying that you were a nl200 regular. Regging to tables is different thing obviously.

I think its super difficult move up from nl5 while living costs are are running and having a low networth.

Anyways GL! Surely things can happen I went broke once aswell from 9k BR.
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03-15-2017 , 04:07 AM
What country and more about it?

-B
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03-15-2017 , 04:21 AM
I prefer not mentioning the country cause it may reveal my identity to someone and yea i actually have been in a situation like this once where I had to work my way back up from 5nl and was able to do it but yea fingers crossed that I can do it again
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03-15-2017 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DegenPhilosophy
thats your opinion, fact is I'm probably one of the strongest players at 50nl> and imo I'm still beating 200nl though thats not really a fact since I haven't played any significant samples in over a year. I live overseas so a job isn't really an option atm, I've been living solely off poker for nearly 3 years now and yea I had some problem not too long ago though its none of what you mention and I prefer not to really go into detail on this but it pretty much led me to to overspend and not put in enough hours at work which is for the most part why i find myself in this situation
So where did you build that house for your lover's family? How many buffalos got sick?
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03-15-2017 , 09:06 AM
Cant you guys just follow the thread and stop digging into the life of OP?

Good Luck with your challenge, Degen.
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03-15-2017 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiljusieppo
If your really beating nl200, look for job to save up money / stake to get yourself to stakes you should be playing, not nl4.

Imo your story doesnt make much sense at all I think you have some casino / drug / other major problem / debt. Or your skills werent even close to being solid nl200 reg with healthy roll.
I agree, there's no other explanation for how a solid 200nl reg can lose his entire roll and be almost busto.

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Originally Posted by DegenPhilosophy
thats your opinion, fact is I'm probably one of the strongest players at 50nl> and imo I'm still beating 200nl though thats not really a fact since I haven't played any significant samples in over a year. I live overseas so a job isn't really an option atm, I've been living solely off poker for nearly 3 years now and yea I had some problem not too long ago though its none of what you mention and I prefer not to really go into detail on this but it pretty much led me to to overspend and not put in enough hours at work which is for the most part why i find myself in this situation
As Kiljusieppo says, you either have a gambling/discipline problem or you're not good enough to beat those limits. A solid 200nl reg doesn't just lose his entire roll and almost all of his real life savings.

I recommend getting a real job (what are you even doing overseas? it sounds like you're living there illegally if you can't get a job there). Sort your life out before you even begin to think about poker.
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03-15-2017 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by StopComplaining
Cant you guys just follow the thread and stop digging into the life of OP?

Good Luck with your challenge, Degen.
thanks I appreciate this, too many guys on 2p2 always attempt to dismiss peoples 'accomplishments' to mask their own insecurities of not being able to beat 100nl after 5 years of playing.
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03-15-2017 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
So where did you build that house for your lover's family? How many buffalos got sick?
lol im not in thailand and its nothing like that, I'm probably still one of the youngest players out here making **** happen. I'm not one of those dudes who seek out affection for money cause theyre weak and insecure. The day some chick tricks me out of my money is the day I'm president

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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
I agree, there's no other explanation for how a solid 200nl reg can lose his entire roll and be almost busto.

As Kiljusieppo says, you either have a gambling/discipline problem or you're not good enough to beat those limits. A solid 200nl reg doesn't just lose his entire roll and almost all of his real life savings.

I recommend getting a real job (what are you even doing overseas? it sounds like you're living there illegally if you can't get a job there). Sort your life out before you even begin to think about poker.
Maybe there is no other explanation to you since you have a limited thought process. Its really not that hard for someone to go from 200nl reg with a good roll to busto when your main income is poker idk what youre talking about.

And I don't need your advice/recommendations, thanks. I started playing poker beginning of 2014 and had guys like you tell me I'm dumb for assuming I can make 10k/year off poker and by the end of that year I had moved overseas and started playing poker fulltime far surpassing my expectations and now I can crush guys like you who have been around much longer than me. I've had a few setbacks along the way but nothing I can't handle. I love it when guys like you give me advice/tell me what to do on your high horse, I looooove it. What credentials have you got? Just come back at the end of the year and lets see what you got to say. You'll be shinning my shoes son.
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03-15-2017 , 10:44 AM
What if I would start here with blog : had 10 buyins for nl1k and 5 for nl2k got tough luck even I felt really comfortable. Now I play nl2 and try to pay the bills. Had couple other unfortunaties but not going to mention them. And I have a secret site which gives rake free games but not going to mention cause you would steal it from my coming success.

Sounds pretty redicolous but would be really laughable if I would be unable to take criticism. You have never been a 200nl regular, neither had healthy roll for 400nl shots. Your microstakes lad who took a stupid shot and failed and likely has other troubles which I mentioned on first post. Suck it up, get a job and do something meaningfull with your life.
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03-15-2017 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiljusieppo
What if I would start here with blog : had 10 buyins for nl1k and 5 for nl2k got tough luck even I felt really comfortable. Now I play nl2 and try to pay the bills. Had couple other unfortunaties but not going to mention them. And I have a secret site which gives rake free games but not going to mention cause you would steal it from my coming success.

Sounds pretty redicolous but would be really laughable if I would be unable to take criticism. You have never been a 200nl regular, neither had healthy roll for 400nl shots. Your microstakes lad who took a stupid shot and failed and likely has other troubles which I mentioned on first post. Suck it up, get a job and do something meaningfull with your life.
lol k son, at the end of the day you pay my bills so gg
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03-15-2017 , 11:43 AM
Im guessing you are french canadian, belgian , french or from the south of the us
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03-15-2017 , 11:57 AM
if you have any poker friends why don't you just ask them to loan you 500-1k and you can grind a month or 2 at 25-50nl, make 1-2k, and then pay them back and you'll have a ~50nl roll. From there assuming ur winning at low-midstakes it should only take a couple of months to grind back to 200nl and then you have a shot at a decent year.
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03-15-2017 , 12:44 PM
i hate asking for handouts but yea if I go busto thats the only option though ill make sure it doesnt come to that and yea im none of those nationalities listed
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