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08-01-2014 , 06:07 PM
Win moar!!!
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08-01-2014 , 08:12 PM
post a few HHs so you can get some feedback on those beats. Feedback & review is always important when trying to move forward. Whether you win the hand or not, feedback on HH can always help you improve!
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08-01-2014 , 09:35 PM
Hang in there man, there will always be bumps in the road. Just keep on trucking and passing each new challenge.
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08-02-2014 , 12:37 AM
where do you think your primary leaks are located? take some time to yourself and think (really hard) about the games you play in regularly (paper and pad makes this more effective for me). the structure of the game (full ring, buy in), the usual suspects (villain types) and what this means as far as choosing an overall strategy (ranges from different position and facing opens/unopened etc). review the big pots that you've played and see if there are some underlying leaks that can be identified and killt. its annoying to have a negative month over 100+ hours I'm sure you're running bad (u lost with two top sets) but critically thinking about the games you are playing in on a daily basis and knowing yourself is one of the best ways (IMO) to adjust optimally to your current game. know your enemy (villain types), know yourself (ranges), know the battlefield (game/buy in structure), and make sure you got soldiers (bankroll) and you can't fail!
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08-03-2014 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JNYCEONE
You ain't going busto, don't even think that. I think you need to refocus in poker and forget about some of the extras that Vegas has to offer(for now). Humble you're lifestyle and keep the grind going. Post in here more, it well defiantly keep you accountable. Were all rooting for you
Thanks, I plan to do exactly that. Gonna focus on the poker and cut the fat out for now.

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Originally Posted by kleinstein000
Try asking yourself what about losing makes you want to take a few days off. I know for me it is the fear of a diminishing bankroll which means you should increase bankroll, get separate savings for emergencies and life expenses in case of a down month or 2 that is separate from the bankroll. Aka moving down may be a great thing if it allows you to worry less (aka play better) and put in way more volume
I think this is very true for me too. I've always had a mental wall between my money and BR but now its just a single ball of money to me. Taking around 2k for my "life roll" while having 8k for my BR would probably help my mentality. On the other hand, I am worried about progressing too slowly, I have to find the right balance so I decided that I will be mixing in 1/3 and 2/5 for now.

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post a few HHs so you can get some feedback on those beats. Feedback & review is always important when trying to move forward. Whether you win the hand or not, feedback on HH can always help you improve!
Will do!

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Hang in there man, there will always be bumps in the road. Just keep on trucking and passing each new challenge.
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by drawingdeadd7
where do you think your primary leaks are located? take some time to yourself and think (really hard) about the games you play in regularly (paper and pad makes this more effective for me). the structure of the game (full ring, buy in), the usual suspects (villain types) and what this means as far as choosing an overall strategy (ranges from different position and facing opens/unopened etc). review the big pots that you've played and see if there are some underlying leaks that can be identified and killt. its annoying to have a negative month over 100+ hours I'm sure you're running bad (u lost with two top sets) but critically thinking about the games you are playing in on a daily basis and knowing yourself is one of the best ways (IMO) to adjust optimally to your current game. know your enemy (villain types), know yourself (ranges), know the battlefield (game/buy in structure), and make sure you got soldiers (bankroll) and you can't fail!
I've been thinking about it for a while and I think it just comes down to me being a "bad-LAG" or spewtard. I have to play the correct ranges and throw out the -EV hands from my game.

4 limps, HERO raises to 30 with J4, V1 calls, V2 calls... and basically their ranges are too strong compared to my hands and I'm gonna lose money. Not a perfect example but you get the point. I'm not a damm superstar, I just have to play fundamentally correct and let my villains make the mistakes. Keep doing that and look at the pile of money at the end of the month.

The second part of your post had me cracking up haha.

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Win moar!!!
Basically this!
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08-03-2014 , 01:17 PM
who won the race, the tortoise or the hare?
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08-03-2014 , 08:51 PM
The bear
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08-04-2014 , 05:00 AM
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Things I learned in July:
-I need to play better? Stop being a fish.
Funny, I took exactly the same with from July! :S

I really hope your luck will change for the better!
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08-06-2014 , 02:57 PM
I haven't posted HH's in a while and decided that I should get back to it so that I can review my game more. One of the reasons that I don't post is because if I do something leaky, I tell myself "Meh. That hand was so bad I already know what I did wrong, no point in saving that one." or "Yeah that was pretty standard, no need to save that one." or "That hand was so sick, I'm a genius. 2+2 wouldn't even comprehend that... No need to save that one." So I end up never having a HH to share. To combat that, I will save every hand that I VPIP for a session so I can get a clear view of my game. It's a lot of tedious work, so I will record every Tuesday session and post on Wednesday in addition to every Saturday and post on Sunday. I will post the sessions without any commentary and then do a follow up post with my thoughts and do some leak plugging the following day. All the other days I will just pick and choose from entertaining, terrible, and brag worthy hands as they come up.

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Check out the cooking a good steak thread... I hardly eat out now... I eat like a king at home with Costco meat
That is a really good idea! I already see a few easy meals I can do with that one.

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who won the race, the tortoise or the hare?
Good point, I need to burn that into my damm head.

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Funny, I took exactly the same with from July! :S

I really hope your luck will change for the better!
Haha! Lets play better man!

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08-06-2014 , 04:43 PM
PASWM #3

Bellagio 2/5 $500 max

#1
HERO BTN 500 T8

EP raises to 20, HERO call, BB call
FLOP (60): J95
BB check, EP bets 30, HERO calls, call
TURN (150): 3
BB check, EP bets 80, HERO calls, call
RIVER (390): 8
BB check, EP check, HERO bets 215, BB call, EP folds

BB opens QT

*HERO chips up $400*

#2
HERO HJ 555 J5

Mp limp, HERO raise to 20, BTN call, SB call, MP call
FLOP (100): Q56
SB bet 30,fold, HERO call, folds
TURN (160): J
SB bets 45, HERO raises AI to 150, sb call
RIVER (460): 9

MHIG

#3
HERO UTG 800 QQ
HERO raise to 15, folds

#4
HERO MP+1 815 AK
MP raise to 20, HERO raise to 60, MP raise to 170, HERO raise to 620 AI, MP calls

MP opens AA and holds

*HERO chips up for $400*

#5
HERO MP+1 585 A9

HERO raise to 15, 2 callers, SB raise to 70, HERO fold

#6
HERO BB 570 KJ

UTG limp, CO raise to 20, HERO call, UTG call
FLOP (60): 833
check, check, CO bet 25, HERO call, UTG fold
TURN (110): 3
CO bet 25, HERO fold

CO pity shows 3

#7
HERO MP 530 T9

HERO raise to 15, CO call, BTN raise to 45, BB raise to 115, HERO fold

#8
HERO UTG+1 515 AQ

HERO raise to 15, 3 calls
FLOP (60): J54
HERO check, check, check, MP bets 40, HERO folds

#9
HERO SB 500 JJ

UTG straddle 10, call, MP raise to 40, HERO raise to 130, all folds

#10
HERO HJ 550 44

UTG+1 raise to 15, call, HERO call, CO call, BTN call
FLOP (75):KT2
Checks around, CO bets 40, call, HERO folds

#11
HERO MP 535 A9

HERO raise to 15, MP+1 raise to 45, HERO fold

#12
HERO SB 505 87

2 limps, HERO calls, BB call
FLOP (20): AQ7
HERO checks, BB bets 15, call, HERO folds

#13
HERO HJ 500 A3

HERO raise to 15, 4 calls
FLOP (75): T8T
check around
TURN (75): Q
check around
RIVER (75): 5
check, BTN bets 40, SB raises to 150, fold, HERO folds

*HERO sneaks black chip on*

#14
HERO BB 585 Q9

UTG fails to straddle, raises blind to 15 instead, 3 calls, HERO calls
FLOP (75): A86
check around
TURN (75): 8
HERO check, V bets 40, HERO folds

*HERO seat changes (now the call stations are to my right)

#15
HERO MP 565 A6

EP raise to 15, HERO call, LP call, BB call
FLOP (60): 665
V bets 25, HERO call, folds
TURN (110): T
c, HERO bets 35, fold


#16
HERO BB 620 AK

UTG +1 raise to 20, BTN call, HERO raise to 80, UTG+1 call, BTN fold
FLOP (180): KQ6
HERO bet 90, UTG+1 call
TURN (360): T
HERO bet 150 UTG+1 call
RIVER (660): J
HERO bets 125 AI, UTG +1 call

UTG+1 opens A4
Chop-chop

*5 handed*

#17
HERO CO 625 98

HERO raise to 15, BTN call, SB call, BB call
FLOP (60): T42
check around
TURN (60): 9
HERO bet 35, BTN call, SB raise to 115, HERO fold, BTN call

*Back to full-ring*

#18
HERO UTG 33 580

HERO limp, MP raise to 20, 3 calls
FLOP (100):AJ9
HERO check, MP bets 100, SB call, fold, HERO fold

#19
HERO MP 530 KK

UTG+1 limp, HERO raise to 20, 3 calls
FLOP (80): J62
UTG+1 bets 30, HERO call, BB call
TURN (170): Q
BB bets 30, UTG+1 raises to 60, HERO calls, BB calls
RIVER (350): 3
BB check, UTG+1 bets 150, HERO calls, BB folds

UTG+1 opens K2

#20
HERO HJ 930 K9

UTG straddle 10, call, HERO raise to 40, UTG call
FLOP (90): KK2
check, check
TURN (90): 2
check, check
RIVER (90): 3
UTG bets 45, HERO raise AI for 190, UTG calls

MHIG
UTG shows 2 and mucks

#21
HERO MP 1225 A8

2 limps, HERO raise to 25, CO call, BB raise to 75, HERO folds, CO folds

#22
HERO HJ 1200 AQ

limp, HEOR raise to 20, BB call, limper calls
FLOP (60): T76
check, V bets 25 , HERO call, BB call
TURN (135): Q
check, check, HERO bets 75, folds

#23
HERO UTG 1285 22

HERO limp, MP raise to 25, 2 calls, BB raise to 95, HERO fold

*6 handed*

#24
HERO BTN 1265 Q5

UTG raise to 10, HERO raise to 40, folds

#25
HERO BB 1280 K2

2 limps, HERO checks
FLOP (15): TT7
check around
TURN (15): 2
check around
RIVER (15): J
check around

MHIG

#26
HERO UTG 1290 KK

HERO raise to 15, 3 calls
FLOP (60): J92
check, HERO bet 45, call, call
TURN (150): 7
Check, HERO bets 120, V raise AI for 128, V call, HEOR call
RIVER (535): T
Check, check

V opens T8

#27
HERO UTG 1105 33

HERO raise to 15, 4 calls
FLOP (75):J65
HERO check, V bets 45, 3 calls, HERO fold

#28
HERO SB 1085 88

CO raise to 15, HERO call, BB call
FLOP (45): T74
check, HERO check, V bets 20, HERO call, fold
TURN (85): 6
check, check
RIVER (85): Q
HERO check, V bets 40, HERO folds

#29
HERO CO 1025 76

HERO raise to 15, BB raid to 50, HERO call
FLOP (105):Q52
V bet 55, HERO call
TURN (215): T
V bet 140, HERO fold

#30
HERO BB 920 K8

V raise to 15, HERO call
FLOP (30): K67
V bet 25, HERO call
TURN (80): 4
V bets 50, HERO call
RIVER (180): 4
V check, HERO bets 65, V call

V opens AK

#31
HERO MP 760 44

V raise to 15, HERO call
FLOP (30): QQ9
check, check
TURN (30): A
check, check
RIVER (30): 6

V opens K9

#32
HERO CO AJ

HERO raise to 15, CO call, BB call
FLOP (45): 887
HERO check, CO bet 40, call, HERO fold

I rack up and call it for the day:
-$669, 5 hours and 4 minutes
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08-06-2014 , 05:42 PM
A few thoughts.... You seem really passive post flop. It's okay to fold A9o oop. Reads behind ak vs aces all in pre?
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08-07-2014 , 10:51 PM
Looking back at the session its pretty easy to see the mistakes I'm making.

General stuff:
-I am too loose pre flop in the MPs. I think my EP is tight enough and my LP is about right. I can get rid of a lot of the garbage Ax's as funinbed mentioned. Good thing I got rid of my KXo's and QXo's already. I will work on throwing out the stupid J5s hands too.
-I seem to get 3 bet a ton and I always felt like it on the table. After reading through my HH's I do haha. I guess thats more evidence that I am too loose.

Hands:
#1 was ok if it was heads up. With the third guy in there its more likely that there is a FD continuing so I should be less inclined to try a bluff in that spot. I'd like my play if it was HU vs the PFR.
#2 is a fold pre, esp since it was like 5 minutes after my failed bluff, my image is tarnished.
#4 AK ship pre was thin at best and most likely -EV considering live 4-bet ranges. With this particular villain I got it AI pre flop with AK 180bb deep before so he wasn't a old nit or anything. Still feel like it was too loose of a stack off.
#11 my image is loose enough I don't really need this in my MP opening range.
#14 is pretty marginal I think fold pre is ok. I felt like squeezing but I stopped myself and elected to make a poor play by calling.
#29 I think was my worst play of the night. We were 200bb deep so I can somewhat justify the call pre. The flop was terrible and I can have better hands in my range for floating. Adding to the fact that villains 3 bet range was very strong, even the bottom of the villains range would continue on a lot of turns like JxJ AKx or AxK. Trying to make villains fold strong hands is not the key to success.
#30 I think was too thin trying to target only Jx combos when I am playing my hand as a bluff catcher.

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A few thoughts.... You seem really passive post flop. It's okay to fold A9o oop. Reads behind ak vs aces all in pre?
Thanks for the feedback. Which hands do you think would have benefited from more aggression? I thought that most of the hands where I PFRed I got terrible boards to cbet considering # of players, and my hand equity alone. My table was pretty sticky and my poor image was also forcing me to stick to value.

Hand #28 I maybe should have lead turn because V is no longer bluffing with his air and only betting river when he hits.

Alright, going to work on being a little more solid from here on out. Other than that just gotta keep the mistakes to a minimum. Heading out to grind now.
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08-08-2014 , 12:18 AM
I would of squeezed the q9hh in the bb there

I would of check raised the 88h on the river after turn checked thru and u xf the river

Woulda folded the 67cc otf in the 3b pot with no connection on flop and no clubs either

Woulda raised the kings when you got led into otf but u jus called

There were some others but I forget now
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08-08-2014 , 01:38 AM
Good job staying accountable, and recognizing you were making excuses to avoid recording HHs (which can be easy to do, since recording HHs while playing can sometimes be a bitch).

Initial thoughts were that you were opening and isoing pre too wide, peeling flops way too lightly assuming you didn't have further plans (and most of your light peels didn't seem like great spots even if you did have a plan to steal on later streets), and playing post flop too passively with your low/medium value hands (where turning your hand into a bluff is much better), and with your strong value hands where you seemed to take more trappy lines.

This is just based on the surface of your HHs. You could prove me wrong in any HH with further information that could justify that you took a more optimal line than it appears.

GL!
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08-09-2014 , 03:07 PM
GL
And stop 3b me pre
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08-09-2014 , 11:25 PM
Plan to put in a long session tonight (8+ hours), I decided that recording every HH for that kind of session is going to be detrimental to my game, I'll just record some significant hands instead. I'll keep the session log to once a week.

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I would of squeezed the q9hh in the bb there

I would of check raised the 88h on the river after turn checked thru and u xf the river

Woulda folded the 67cc otf in the 3b pot with no connection on flop and no clubs either

Woulda raised the kings when you got led into otf but u jus called

There were some others but I forget now
Thanks.

Yeah as I mentioned, I wasn't happy when I decided to call with the Q9

For the 88 hand, what do you think about leading turn? When we go for a river c/r, is it because we think he may be value betting a Qx thinly along with his bluffs and expect those to fold given the board runout/my line?

The KK hand I don't think raising would have been the best play because of the villains (in-game reads). I knew that with the line he took he was very weak and if I raise they would just fold (look at the sizing). I would choose to be raising with my air a high % of the time when villain takes this line instead.

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Good job staying accountable, and recognizing you were making excuses to avoid recording HHs (which can be easy to do, since recording HHs while playing can sometimes be a bitch).

Initial thoughts were that you were opening and isoing pre too wide, peeling flops way too lightly assuming you didn't have further plans (and most of your light peels didn't seem like great spots even if you did have a plan to steal on later streets), and playing post flop too passively with your low/medium value hands (where turning your hand into a bluff is much better), and with your strong value hands where you seemed to take more trappy lines.

This is just based on the surface of your HHs. You could prove me wrong in any HH with further information that could justify that you took a more optimal line than it appears.

GL!
Yeah that pretty much matches what I took from going over my own HH's as I mentioned in my last post. I didn't notice me being too passive with the "low/medium value hands", I think the 88 hand is one of those, I'll have too take a look again later to see which other hands your talking about.

Thanks again!

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GL
And stop 3b me pre
lol and Thanks!
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08-10-2014 , 02:59 AM
I don't think leading turn makes much sense as an overall strategy there. I would check raise turn occasionally facing a bet on the turn. On the river its a very nice check raise spot that I'll take close to 100% of the time unless villain is known super station. Reason for check raise is that villain is unlikely to have two pair or better bc he woulda bet turn with those hands and flush draws usually. Also we have the 8h blocker to flush and to straights. Additionally we could have easily went for a turn and river check raise with our strong hands
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08-12-2014 , 11:30 PM
Played a 16 hour session on Saturday night, spilled into Sunday night and I had to take a break on Monday haha. It was a very swingy session as I played at least five 200bb+ pots. Nothing too interesting but I saved a few hands that I could take another look at

HAND 32

1/3 Bellagio 300 Max

HERO UTG $300 AK
V MP $500

HERO raise to 10, 2 calls

FLOP (30): 732
HERO bets 21, fold, V calls

TURN (72): 3
HERO bets 55, V calls

RIVER (182): T
HERO checks, V bets 75, HERO folds

I decided to cbet flop with the plan of double barreling any J+ or . Turn wasn't the best club, maybe just give up there given no real reads?

My one and only hand at 1/3 for the day, I get moved to 2/5. 10 minutes, -$89

HAND 33

Bellagio 2/5 500 Max

This hand is partially recorded and rest from memory so its not a perfect HH

Villain is ~40 New Yorker, seems like he has been playing tight for the 3 hours we played together. I won a pretty good pot off of him prior to this hand by raising him, I don't remember what happened. Seems to play pretty standard tight-passive.

HERO UTG $900 AQ(suits?)
V MP $500

HERO raises to 15, V calls, 2 more call

FLOP (60): QJ4
HERO bets 45, V calls, others fold

TURN (150): 9
HERO bets 95, V calls

RIVER (340): 7
HERO checks, V goes AI for 390, HERO?

Spoiler:
I tanked for a while, V seemed comfortable, he did almost insta-jam river, maybe a 1-sec jam which kind of made me suspicious. Live reads aside, I couldn't think of this V pulling some sicko bluff. I highly doubt he is turning a J or small PP into a bluff, nor is he jamming his 2 pairs (I mean he could but...) which obviously leaves him polarized. So KT or T8, and probably have to be suited in hearts is his only value. So narrow but I couldn't figure out what air combos he could have when I was in-game so I decided to fold. He might've got away with one.


HAND 34

Beat:

HERO UTG $800 KK
V BTN $280

HERO raise to 20, V calls

FLOP (40): JJ5
HERO bets 25, V calls

TURN (90): Q
HERO checks, V bets 40, HERO raises to 100, V calls

RIVER (290): 9
HERO bets 140 AI, V calls

V opens JJ

Brag: Didn't lose after playing for 16 hours due to spew

Variance: Only won $53

Going to take it easy for the next couple days, maybe stick to 6-8 hour sessions until the weekend. Then back to the degen shifts

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08-13-2014 , 03:16 AM
Hand 32 I like ur bet otf and barrel. I think I lean towards a 3 barrel here since we hold the ace of clubs. We block him having ace high flushes and A7/K7, so most likely has a weaker 7 or pocket pair. We want to be bluffing sometimes, not much other hands that are better to do it with prolly.

Hand 33 i woulda bet 110-115 ott and shoved river for value. Or, bet like half pot for value otr if he's a nit or somethin- main thing is I think we need to be goin for value here.I'm confused about why you checked river and allow him to snap check back weaker one pair hands that makes up most of his range here. As played I'm mostly calling river here for sure don't rly like the fold but I wouldn't have got to river this way. Were too far up our range here to fold unless you have a strong read to exploitably fold your strongest bluff catchers. This might actually be the best hand you ever get here with assuming you'll fire river with all your better hands. The speed at which he moved in makes me wanna call more

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08-14-2014 , 10:26 PM
Didn't play wednesday so I don't have a session review to share. I do have a hand from Tuesday's session. I'm ok with it but I'll post it just in case since it was a decent sized pot.

HAND 35

2/5 Bellagio 500 Max

6 Handed (late night and the tables are short)

V came from another table, late 20's, he knows all the regs/dealers, and the word is he's been grinding for 8 years or so. My initial impression of him is that he is on the tighter side. We only played together twice before this, no hands between us post flop. He 3 bet me a few times and I folded all of them or if I had a PP I probably called and folded flop to his cbet since I missed.

The other session, he tanked after my open and folded, I asked "what the heck was that?" and he said "I knew you were light." He never seen me spazz yet but its possible that he suspects I get out of line too much.

HERO SB $1700 AK
V BB $1500
V2 MP $220 (Super station)

V2 limps, HERO raises to 25, V calls, V2 call, other guy folds

FLOP (80): T42
HERO bets 55, V calls, V2 calls

TURN (245): J
HERO bets 175, V calls, V2 folds

RIVER (595): 2
HERO bets 415, V calls

I open,
V opens AA

That sucked since I believed that I had AA lol. I think that was the biggest bluff I did at Bellagio and actually got caught. I was down a bit for the session but after that I was down about 1200. I played for maybe another 20 minutes and then cashed out -982 after the last station left. I decided to go because I felt defeated and I could tell by my sad body language haha. I didn't want the sharks eating me after that.
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08-14-2014 , 11:08 PM
I think you played that hand good , unfortunate he had aces. Meh
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08-15-2014 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Varx
HAND 35

2/5 Bellagio 500 Max

6 Handed (late night and the tables are short)

V came from another table, late 20's, he knows all the regs/dealers, and the word is he's been grinding for 8 years or so. My initial impression of him is that he is on the tighter side.lolWe only played together twice before this, no hands between us post flop. He 3 bet me a few times and I folded all of them or if I had a PP I probably called and folded flop to his cbet since I missed.

The other session, he tanked after my open and folded, I asked "what the heck was that?" and he said "I knew you were light." He never seen me spazz yet but its possible that he suspects I get out of line too much.

HERO SB $1700 AK
V BB $1500
V2 MP $220 (Super station)

V2 limps, HERO raises to 25, V calls, V2 call, other guy folds

FLOP (80): T42
HERO bets 55, V calls, V2 calls

TURN (245): J
HERO bets 175, V calls, V2 folds

RIVER (595): 2
HERO bets 415, V calls

I open,
V opens AA
I have a couple of thoughts on this hand (i am the villain in this hand). I think you played it fine and as played you have to 3barrel river. I discussed this with you before at the table, but just to reiterate, you have to have some bluffs in your range here to balance and this is pretty much the perfect spot and hand to bluff. I think you could have sized a little smaller.

I think it's definitely better to go for a small c/r on this turn for a couple of reasons.

First, you know that I am almost never floating you on this flop. V2 is a massive station in this hand, so this is a really bad spot for me to float as V2 is probably going to call behind on the flop.

When I call flop, I almost always have some sort of hand that I am betting on the turn if checked to on such a wet board. Since I'm betting pretty close to my entire range on turn and V2 is calling a lot, this is a really good spot to put in a c/r squeeze. It's going to be extremely hard for me to continue without QQ+, which composes a tiny portion of my range, and you still have good equity even if I do call. Your line also looks extremely strong.

Basically, you're almost always scooping the pot when you c/r here and you're building a bigger pot to take down by just checking and allowing me to bet close to 100% of the time.

Turn c/r would not have worked in this particular hand as I would have called w/ AA, but it's still a better overall line against my range.



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HAND 33

Bellagio 2/5 500 Max

This hand is partially recorded and rest from memory so its not a perfect HH

Villain is ~40 New Yorker, seems like he has been playing tight for the 3 hours we played together. I won a pretty good pot off of him prior to this hand by raising him, I don't remember what happened. Seems to play pretty standard tight-passive.

HERO UTG $900 AQ(suits?)
V MP $500

HERO raises to 15, V calls, 2 more call

FLOP (60): QJ4
HERO bets 45, V calls, others fold

TURN (150): 9
HERO bets 95, V calls

RIVER (340): 7
HERO checks, V goes AI for 390, HERO?
I was sitting at the table for this hand. Just based on betting pattern, this is a call as you are crushing most of his range. He's a fish, and fish generally don't flat anything on the turn that beats TPTK on this type of a board. When the river is a blank and he just jams, he's not repping much in his value range.

There are a couple other reasons why this is a call too that are based more on table dynamic.

1. About two hands before this, he was on the phone telling someone that he was going to leave soon
2. It was like 6am when this hand occurred, and this guy had been playing all night and was very tired/looking to go home
3. He was stuck a small amount and card dead
4. You were a big stack, young, and had an aggressive image

These are all reasons why he is more likely to just spew bluff the river when checked to. If you're ever close on a decision like this, take time to consider things outside of betting pattern. Generally, it's a good idea to call lighter when players are stuck and/or have been playing for a really long time, as that's the time when most players spew.

Gl at the tables, you'll make it back in a couple of days
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08-15-2014 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by drawingdeadd7
I think you played that hand good , unfortunate he had aces. Meh
Trying to bluff THE FISH is the only problem here.
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08-15-2014 , 06:06 PM
For both drawingdedd and worldsbiggestnit, can you both please elaborate on why you like a call otr in hand 33? I realize hero is at the absolute top of his range here but I'm having a hard time figuring out almost any hands besides 9T in villian's range we beat. We obviously beat KQ and KJ but based on varx's description of the player I don't think he's likely to turn either of these hands into a bluff on the river and definitely not value jamming either.
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08-15-2014 , 06:08 PM
Tripling river in the AKdd hand isn't going to be profitable

Last edited by Duke0424; 08-15-2014 at 06:14 PM.
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