Left Home, Moved to Vegas! Pman Presents The Ride
03-04-2022
, 09:47 PM
pman, you should try just being a stone cold nit next 3 sessions
1. never call or limp into a pot - you are always opening or 3betting to play a hand preflop - do not confuse this with "3bet 22 cause you can't call anymore" this means fold 22 if someone raised
2. Ensure you have a range that guarantees you'll vpip less than 20% of the time
3. Don't bluff, don't chase, just go with pure equity
this will immediately solve many of your leaks, A2<QJ, 66<QQ, JT<AK should simply never happen. You are playing way too many ffing hands if you're playing for stacks with mid pair + draw/top pair no kicker/whatever the f bottom pair 66 gave you
you're not doing this because it's optimal, so don't make this about "but always folding 66 is a leak" or "if I only bet for value they'll exploitively fold" - toss all of that away
you're playing cards for fun, that's your leak. that's why you're seeing flops with the hands you had and getting stacked - you need to kill this urge and the best way to do it is to play a few sessions of soul sucking mindlessly boring, never bluffing, never chasing, folding everything poker
play only these hands, and since you're not ever calling preflop this means if you open JTs and get 3! you fold because you can't 4! for value with it, likewise, if utg opens you fold your JTs from the btn because you can't 3! for value vs an utg open with JTs - the goal here is to over fold and be incredibly bored at the table
we need to kill your inner degen and drop the "poker is fun, let's see a flop" mentality - it's your only chance
do three sessions of this (i'd keep them between 1-3 hours each because after too long they'll adjust) and then see what the results are - from there, start relaxing your rules a little, maybe you can start flatting with JTs in position now? maybe not, it's up to you
but you 100% need to throw away the old pman and be reborn as a nit and from that experience learn to be more judicial and selective in the flops you see going forward
i'd never advocate for nittery long term, this is a temporary solution to break your bad habits - even your hands where you feasibly have a good holding like you JT<AK where you also had a flush draw, you should never be playing for stacks on a weak draw - if this were a one off i'd write it off and ignore it but we hear this time and time again where you got it in with some kind of draw + mediocre holding and didn't improve - at some point you need to recognize your own role in shaping these outcomes - i suspect you have "let's get it in there and build a pot" mentality which is why you always go broke when you have a pair + a draw
be a nit for 3 sessions, see how it goes, create a new gameplan from that experience and play 5 sessions with that, see how that goes, continue to iterate and adapt until you can stop finishing vlogs with reports like 66<QQ and JT<AK oh well
1. never call or limp into a pot - you are always opening or 3betting to play a hand preflop - do not confuse this with "3bet 22 cause you can't call anymore" this means fold 22 if someone raised
2. Ensure you have a range that guarantees you'll vpip less than 20% of the time
3. Don't bluff, don't chase, just go with pure equity
this will immediately solve many of your leaks, A2<QJ, 66<QQ, JT<AK should simply never happen. You are playing way too many ffing hands if you're playing for stacks with mid pair + draw/top pair no kicker/whatever the f bottom pair 66 gave you
you're not doing this because it's optimal, so don't make this about "but always folding 66 is a leak" or "if I only bet for value they'll exploitively fold" - toss all of that away
you're playing cards for fun, that's your leak. that's why you're seeing flops with the hands you had and getting stacked - you need to kill this urge and the best way to do it is to play a few sessions of soul sucking mindlessly boring, never bluffing, never chasing, folding everything poker
play only these hands, and since you're not ever calling preflop this means if you open JTs and get 3! you fold because you can't 4! for value with it, likewise, if utg opens you fold your JTs from the btn because you can't 3! for value vs an utg open with JTs - the goal here is to over fold and be incredibly bored at the table
we need to kill your inner degen and drop the "poker is fun, let's see a flop" mentality - it's your only chance
do three sessions of this (i'd keep them between 1-3 hours each because after too long they'll adjust) and then see what the results are - from there, start relaxing your rules a little, maybe you can start flatting with JTs in position now? maybe not, it's up to you
but you 100% need to throw away the old pman and be reborn as a nit and from that experience learn to be more judicial and selective in the flops you see going forward
i'd never advocate for nittery long term, this is a temporary solution to break your bad habits - even your hands where you feasibly have a good holding like you JT<AK where you also had a flush draw, you should never be playing for stacks on a weak draw - if this were a one off i'd write it off and ignore it but we hear this time and time again where you got it in with some kind of draw + mediocre holding and didn't improve - at some point you need to recognize your own role in shaping these outcomes - i suspect you have "let's get it in there and build a pot" mentality which is why you always go broke when you have a pair + a draw
be a nit for 3 sessions, see how it goes, create a new gameplan from that experience and play 5 sessions with that, see how that goes, continue to iterate and adapt until you can stop finishing vlogs with reports like 66<QQ and JT<AK oh well
Last edited by rickroll; 03-04-2022 at 10:12 PM.
Reason: should simply happen >> should simply never happen
03-04-2022
, 09:58 PM
03-04-2022
, 11:24 PM
Quote:
pman, you should try just being a stone cold nit next 3 sessions
1. never call or limp into a pot - you are always opening or 3betting to play a hand preflop - do not confuse this with "3bet 22 cause you can't call anymore" this means fold 22 if someone raised
2. Ensure you have a range that guarantees you'll vpip less than 20% of the time
3. Don't bluff, don't chase, just go with pure equity
this will immediately solve many of your leaks, A2<QJ, 66<QQ, JT<AK should simply never happen. You are playing way too many ffing hands if you're playing for stacks with mid pair + draw/top pair no kicker/whatever the f bottom pair 66 gave you
you're not doing this because it's optimal, so don't make this about "but always folding 66 is a leak" or "if I only bet for value they'll exploitively fold" - toss all of that away
you're playing cards for fun, that's your leak. that's why you're seeing flops with the hands you had and getting stacked - you need to kill this urge and the best way to do it is to play a few sessions of soul sucking mindlessly boring, never bluffing, never chasing, folding everything poker
play only these hands, and since you're not ever calling preflop this means if you open JTs and get 3! you fold because you can't 4! for value with it, likewise, if utg opens you fold your JTs from the btn because you can't 3! for value vs an utg open with JTs - the goal here is to over fold and be incredibly bored at the table
we need to kill your inner degen and drop the "poker is fun, let's see a flop" mentality - it's your only chance
do three sessions of this (i'd keep them between 1-3 hours each because after too long they'll adjust) and then see what the results are - from there, start relaxing your rules a little, maybe you can start flatting with JTs in position now? maybe not, it's up to you
but you 100% need to throw away the old pman and be reborn as a nit and from that experience learn to be more judicial and selective in the flops you see going forward
i'd never advocate for nittery long term, this is a temporary solution to break your bad habits - even your hands where you feasibly have a good holding like you JT<AK where you also had a flush draw, you should never be playing for stacks on a weak draw - if this were a one off i'd write it off and ignore it but we hear this time and time again where you got it in with some kind of draw + mediocre holding and didn't improve - at some point you need to recognize your own role in shaping these outcomes - i suspect you have "let's get it in there and build a pot" mentality which is why you always go broke when you have a pair + a draw
be a nit for 3 sessions, see how it goes, create a new gameplan from that experience and play 5 sessions with that, see how that goes, continue to iterate and adapt until you can stop finishing vlogs with reports like 66<QQ and JT<AK oh well
1. never call or limp into a pot - you are always opening or 3betting to play a hand preflop - do not confuse this with "3bet 22 cause you can't call anymore" this means fold 22 if someone raised
2. Ensure you have a range that guarantees you'll vpip less than 20% of the time
3. Don't bluff, don't chase, just go with pure equity
this will immediately solve many of your leaks, A2<QJ, 66<QQ, JT<AK should simply never happen. You are playing way too many ffing hands if you're playing for stacks with mid pair + draw/top pair no kicker/whatever the f bottom pair 66 gave you
you're not doing this because it's optimal, so don't make this about "but always folding 66 is a leak" or "if I only bet for value they'll exploitively fold" - toss all of that away
you're playing cards for fun, that's your leak. that's why you're seeing flops with the hands you had and getting stacked - you need to kill this urge and the best way to do it is to play a few sessions of soul sucking mindlessly boring, never bluffing, never chasing, folding everything poker
play only these hands, and since you're not ever calling preflop this means if you open JTs and get 3! you fold because you can't 4! for value with it, likewise, if utg opens you fold your JTs from the btn because you can't 3! for value vs an utg open with JTs - the goal here is to over fold and be incredibly bored at the table
we need to kill your inner degen and drop the "poker is fun, let's see a flop" mentality - it's your only chance
do three sessions of this (i'd keep them between 1-3 hours each because after too long they'll adjust) and then see what the results are - from there, start relaxing your rules a little, maybe you can start flatting with JTs in position now? maybe not, it's up to you
but you 100% need to throw away the old pman and be reborn as a nit and from that experience learn to be more judicial and selective in the flops you see going forward
i'd never advocate for nittery long term, this is a temporary solution to break your bad habits - even your hands where you feasibly have a good holding like you JT<AK where you also had a flush draw, you should never be playing for stacks on a weak draw - if this were a one off i'd write it off and ignore it but we hear this time and time again where you got it in with some kind of draw + mediocre holding and didn't improve - at some point you need to recognize your own role in shaping these outcomes - i suspect you have "let's get it in there and build a pot" mentality which is why you always go broke when you have a pair + a draw
be a nit for 3 sessions, see how it goes, create a new gameplan from that experience and play 5 sessions with that, see how that goes, continue to iterate and adapt until you can stop finishing vlogs with reports like 66<QQ and JT<AK oh well
Is helpful. I think I agree with most of what you're saying..I'm going to run it by some better players and see what they think. Tyvm rickroll.
Hey BH good to see you. I agree with rickroll!
03-05-2022
, 12:21 AM
also, the QJs was a terrible call for two reasons
1. You're flush draw is dominated draw here almost always and you have no have no idea which player has you dominated, if you somehow dominate them then they likely have a combo draw
2. the player without the flush draw almost never has less than a pair here, meaning some of your outs are dirty, ie the T
is no good for you
if you isolate 1 player to an Ax higher flush draw and the other to 2pair or better (and to be generous i'll include AT and KT) then you have <10% equity so it's a very easy fold
turn that A2 into 78 and you improve but still <25%
you didn't have a 36% there ever, there are dirty out like the T and it's likely 2+ clubs are in villains hands so that drops you down to a minimum of 29% just to hit your flush, which likely isn't even good
and then... most importantly!!!!!!!!! if you hit the flush and are correct the bigger stack didn't have a flush draw then you don't win the pot you think you're winning old lady gets the main pot of $500, you're putting in $330 for a $660 side pot at best, at worst flush never comes or the big stack has the A of clubs and you get nothing
fist pump fold every single time, the thing about terrible players is you can be patient and get their money on the next orbit and don't need to risk it. maybe you sometimes fold a winning hand and the donkey shows a pair of tens while the old lady shows a naked straight draw but you need to make incorrect folds all the time in order to not punt stacks the way you do
you should see koshka's post from vlogs, i deleted a bunch of the unnecessary name calling for you
but yeah, this sounds rough but you need to drop those guys you're currently going to for advice and coaching
they may be good at poker, idk, but they certainly suck as coaches/mentors because if after a year you're still making these very basic mistakes that nobody who's done any kind of study/prreparation should be making
at the very least you need to drop them as gate keepers regarding seeking their approval over what strategy you adopt or not moving forward
also, anyone who gets what i wrote out of context and doesn't understand the purpose behind it "to clean up your fun player leaks and install discipline" will very correctly say it's a terrible plan
but more importantly, the fact they either don't recognize these leaks in you or do recognize and don't care/are indifferent is all the more reason to drop them
you can get top notch coaching at affordable rates where you are, i highly suggest you dip into the coaching marketplace here and buy a session with one of them who is based in vegas and see how there approach is different from the friend/coaches you've been using who've failed to produce any meaningful change nor results
i'd also wager good money the free advice itt you've been ignoring in lieu of their advice is coming from far more successful and accomplished players - i'm not speaking myself i "retired" over a decade ago and very out of the loop but some fairly well known and highly respected winning players have given you advice in the past which you've ignored in exchange for these mystery coaches you refuse to name
bottom line, if they don't want their "brand" associated with you then they clearly don't care about your success and are putting in minimal effort
1. You're flush draw is dominated draw here almost always and you have no have no idea which player has you dominated, if you somehow dominate them then they likely have a combo draw
2. the player without the flush draw almost never has less than a pair here, meaning some of your outs are dirty, ie the T
is no good for youif you isolate 1 player to an Ax higher flush draw and the other to 2pair or better (and to be generous i'll include AT and KT) then you have <10% equity so it's a very easy fold
turn that A
2 into 78 and you improve but still <25%you didn't have a 36% there ever, there are dirty out like the T
and it's likely 2+ clubs are in villains hands so that drops you down to a minimum of 29% just to hit your flush, which likely isn't even goodand then... most importantly!!!!!!!!! if you hit the flush and are correct the bigger stack didn't have a flush draw then you don't win the pot you think you're winning old lady gets the main pot of $500, you're putting in $330 for a $660 side pot at best, at worst flush never comes or the big stack has the A of clubs and you get nothing
fist pump fold every single time, the thing about terrible players is you can be patient and get their money on the next orbit and don't need to risk it. maybe you sometimes fold a winning hand and the donkey shows a pair of tens while the old lady shows a naked straight draw but you need to make incorrect folds all the time in order to not punt stacks the way you do
you should see koshka's post from vlogs, i deleted a bunch of the unnecessary name calling for you
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says SS kept calling him so Pman decided to stop bluffing him. Um you're playing 1-2. Why are you trying to bluff any opponent multiple times?
Also Pman decides to fast play the A5 vs QQ when he flopped trips which I'm fine with if this guy is truly sticky and won't fold no matter the sizing. But then when he flops bottom two, he check calls flop and turn vs this player type? Then like 8x over bet jams river on the flush completing card?
If he check raised flop big and over bet jammed turn, this guy is likely calling with his nut flush draw. What was Pman's plan if the river was a blank non pairing non flushing card? He loses out on $500. I don't get Pman's logic and I have no idea wtf kind of coaching he's supposedly getting.
Also Pman decides to fast play the A5 vs QQ when he flopped trips which I'm fine with if this guy is truly sticky and won't fold no matter the sizing. But then when he flops bottom two, he check calls flop and turn vs this player type? Then like 8x over bet jams river on the flush completing card?
If he check raised flop big and over bet jammed turn, this guy is likely calling with his nut flush draw. What was Pman's plan if the river was a blank non pairing non flushing card? He loses out on $500. I don't get Pman's logic and I have no idea wtf kind of coaching he's supposedly getting.
they may be good at poker, idk, but they certainly suck as coaches/mentors because if after a year you're still making these very basic mistakes that nobody who's done any kind of study/prreparation should be making
at the very least you need to drop them as gate keepers regarding seeking their approval over what strategy you adopt or not moving forward
also, anyone who gets what i wrote out of context and doesn't understand the purpose behind it "to clean up your fun player leaks and install discipline" will very correctly say it's a terrible plan
but more importantly, the fact they either don't recognize these leaks in you or do recognize and don't care/are indifferent is all the more reason to drop them
you can get top notch coaching at affordable rates where you are, i highly suggest you dip into the coaching marketplace here and buy a session with one of them who is based in vegas and see how there approach is different from the friend/coaches you've been using who've failed to produce any meaningful change nor results
i'd also wager good money the free advice itt you've been ignoring in lieu of their advice is coming from far more successful and accomplished players - i'm not speaking myself i "retired" over a decade ago and very out of the loop but some fairly well known and highly respected winning players have given you advice in the past which you've ignored in exchange for these mystery coaches you refuse to name
bottom line, if they don't want their "brand" associated with you then they clearly don't care about your success and are putting in minimal effort
Last edited by rickroll; 03-05-2022 at 12:29 AM.
03-05-2022
, 12:49 AM
03-05-2022
, 01:01 AM
ty for the support lh and bh
the short session was more in hopes he'd do it ie i think he'd be less likely to embrace the idea if i said a normal session
i legit haven't played live poker in america since college, only recently came home after almost two decades abroad (my playing days were in Beijing and Macau) so i'm a total noob regarding the US live poker ecosytem but haven't yet ventured out to the poker streets since i'm a covid nit, in regular contact with my parents who have the olds and closest casino over 2 hours away as I'm in Maine
planning on moving somewhere populated and resuming playing soon, genuinely considering popping my vegas cherry and going out there for wsop - see how covid is then
@pman just wanted to add that i screwed up the typing as i adding it in my head and it's worse than i typed out
it's not putting in 330 for a 660 side pot i was just typing it off memory and was wrong
you called $60, he makes it $420, she calls for her remaining $90
it was a $360 call for you, but of that, $90 is going to the main pot which based off your reads you're never going to win
so you're putting in $360 hoping to win a side pot of $540
drop your "coaches" immediately if you're still not analyzing equities correctly regarding pots at stake, dead cards, etc
remember you never had a pure flush draw here with guaranteed the T is a dirty club for you and at least 2 clubs are held by villains - then even if you do hit the flush you still need to dodge the board pairing
no coach worth anything could ever have a student who after a year still didn't have this down to a pat
the short session was more in hopes he'd do it ie i think he'd be less likely to embrace the idea if i said a normal session
i legit haven't played live poker in america since college, only recently came home after almost two decades abroad (my playing days were in Beijing and Macau) so i'm a total noob regarding the US live poker ecosytem but haven't yet ventured out to the poker streets since i'm a covid nit, in regular contact with my parents who have the olds and closest casino over 2 hours away as I'm in Maine
planning on moving somewhere populated and resuming playing soon, genuinely considering popping my vegas cherry and going out there for wsop - see how covid is then
@pman just wanted to add that i screwed up the typing as i adding it in my head and it's worse than i typed out
it's not putting in 330 for a 660 side pot i was just typing it off memory and was wrong
you called $60, he makes it $420, she calls for her remaining $90
it was a $360 call for you, but of that, $90 is going to the main pot which based off your reads you're never going to win
so you're putting in $360 hoping to win a side pot of $540
drop your "coaches" immediately if you're still not analyzing equities correctly regarding pots at stake, dead cards, etc
remember you never had a pure flush draw here with guaranteed the T is a dirty club for you and at least 2 clubs are held by villains - then even if you do hit the flush you still need to dodge the board pairing
no coach worth anything could ever have a student who after a year still didn't have this down to a pat
Last edited by rickroll; 03-05-2022 at 01:08 AM.
03-05-2022
, 02:28 AM
How can anybody not like this kid? IÂ’m calling you kid out of spite because IÂ’d give up my bankroll to be your age lol . .
I definitely get nostalgic thinking back 17 years ago when I moved to Vegas to grind 1/3 and 2/5 at the Wynn before switching to mix and other types of gambling. I wish I had the wherewithal to create a brand via social media. Re the pit play, consider it a win that minimal damage was inflicted before you came to this realization. ItÂ’s fine to drink or play poker for most people - just not at the same time. My first coach liked to party but whether he was performing magic or taking down big tourneys, our partying didnÂ’t interfere with work. I think
Agree with others that lopping off the bottom of your ranges and employing a more boring 15/12 type default strat will get the money in these games. Exploiting the tendencies of loose passive fun players in big pots is the way to go. Rarely will they be 3/4 betting with worse than AQs, AKo, JJ+. ItÂ’s important not to assign them the ranges you hope they have when the money goes in. Generally, taking the highest ev line in a cash game, variance be damned, is correct. But they should make enough glaring mistakes that you can usually find a good spot and have them resigned to a crying call in the important pots. Still, itÂ’s worth noting that your story is more compelling and fun with the extra action, albeit not always ideal.
Studying is crucial to continued improvement and it will become more apparent as you move up in stakes and encounter more theoretically sound opponents and in online play. The time you put in getting footage, editing, and posting is definitely considered time spent working on your craft. Posting HHs here in a uniform standard fashion should yield some good feedback from the NL players here.
At these stakes solid aggressive play and a maximally exploitive style will get the money. YouÂ’re very much aware of what you need to do in order to reach your goals. Exercise, healthy diet, and meditation/prayer might help increase motivation and focus, improve your sleep and endurance. How sweet would it be if you were able to parlay a deep run into more exposure and a viable extra source of income? Wsop and other big events are only months away. Keep up the good work!
I definitely get nostalgic thinking back 17 years ago when I moved to Vegas to grind 1/3 and 2/5 at the Wynn before switching to mix and other types of gambling. I wish I had the wherewithal to create a brand via social media. Re the pit play, consider it a win that minimal damage was inflicted before you came to this realization. ItÂ’s fine to drink or play poker for most people - just not at the same time. My first coach liked to party but whether he was performing magic or taking down big tourneys, our partying didnÂ’t interfere with work. I think
Agree with others that lopping off the bottom of your ranges and employing a more boring 15/12 type default strat will get the money in these games. Exploiting the tendencies of loose passive fun players in big pots is the way to go. Rarely will they be 3/4 betting with worse than AQs, AKo, JJ+. ItÂ’s important not to assign them the ranges you hope they have when the money goes in. Generally, taking the highest ev line in a cash game, variance be damned, is correct. But they should make enough glaring mistakes that you can usually find a good spot and have them resigned to a crying call in the important pots. Still, itÂ’s worth noting that your story is more compelling and fun with the extra action, albeit not always ideal.
Studying is crucial to continued improvement and it will become more apparent as you move up in stakes and encounter more theoretically sound opponents and in online play. The time you put in getting footage, editing, and posting is definitely considered time spent working on your craft. Posting HHs here in a uniform standard fashion should yield some good feedback from the NL players here.
At these stakes solid aggressive play and a maximally exploitive style will get the money. YouÂ’re very much aware of what you need to do in order to reach your goals. Exercise, healthy diet, and meditation/prayer might help increase motivation and focus, improve your sleep and endurance. How sweet would it be if you were able to parlay a deep run into more exposure and a viable extra source of income? Wsop and other big events are only months away. Keep up the good work!
03-06-2022
, 09:02 AM
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also, the QJs was a terrible call for two reasons
1. You're flush draw is dominated draw here almost always and you have no have no idea which player has you dominated, if you somehow dominate them then they likely have a combo draw
2. the player without the flush draw almost never has less than a pair here, meaning some of your outs are dirty, ie the T is no good for you
if you isolate 1 player to an Ax higher flush draw and the other to 2pair or better (and to be generous i'll include AT and KT) then you have <10% equity so it's a very easy fold
turn that A2 into 78 and you improve but still <25%
you didn't have a 36% there ever, there are dirty out like the T and it's likely 2+ clubs are in villains hands so that drops you down to a minimum of 29% just to hit your flush, which likely isn't even good
and then... most importantly!!!!!!!!! if you hit the flush and are correct the bigger stack didn't have a flush draw then you don't win the pot you think you're winning old lady gets the main pot of $500, you're putting in $330 for a $660 side pot at best, at worst flush never comes or the big stack has the A of clubs and you get nothing
fist pump fold every single time, the thing about terrible players is you can be patient and get their money on the next orbit and don't need to risk it. maybe you sometimes fold a winning hand and the donkey shows a pair of tens while the old lady shows a naked straight draw but you need to make incorrect folds all the time in order to not punt stacks the way you do
you should see koshka's post from vlogs, i deleted a bunch of the unnecessary name calling for you
but yeah, this sounds rough but you need to drop those guys you're currently going to for advice and coaching
they may be good at poker, idk, but they certainly suck as coaches/mentors because if after a year you're still making these very basic mistakes that nobody who's done any kind of study/prreparation should be making
at the very least you need to drop them as gate keepers regarding seeking their approval over what strategy you adopt or not moving forward
also, anyone who gets what i wrote out of context and doesn't understand the purpose behind it "to clean up your fun player leaks and install discipline" will very correctly say it's a terrible plan
but more importantly, the fact they either don't recognize these leaks in you or do recognize and don't care/are indifferent is all the more reason to drop them
you can get top notch coaching at affordable rates where you are, i highly suggest you dip into the coaching marketplace here and buy a session with one of them who is based in vegas and see how there approach is different from the friend/coaches you've been using who've failed to produce any meaningful change nor results
i'd also wager good money the free advice itt you've been ignoring in lieu of their advice is coming from far more successful and accomplished players - i'm not speaking myself i "retired" over a decade ago and very out of the loop but some fairly well known and highly respected winning players have given you advice in the past which you've ignored in exchange for these mystery coaches you refuse to name
bottom line, if they don't want their "brand" associated with you then they clearly don't care about your success and are putting in minimal effort
1. You're flush draw is dominated draw here almost always and you have no have no idea which player has you dominated, if you somehow dominate them then they likely have a combo draw
2. the player without the flush draw almost never has less than a pair here, meaning some of your outs are dirty, ie the T
is no good for youif you isolate 1 player to an Ax higher flush draw and the other to 2pair or better (and to be generous i'll include AT and KT) then you have <10% equity so it's a very easy fold
turn that A
2 into 78 and you improve but still <25%you didn't have a 36% there ever, there are dirty out like the T
and it's likely 2+ clubs are in villains hands so that drops you down to a minimum of 29% just to hit your flush, which likely isn't even goodand then... most importantly!!!!!!!!! if you hit the flush and are correct the bigger stack didn't have a flush draw then you don't win the pot you think you're winning old lady gets the main pot of $500, you're putting in $330 for a $660 side pot at best, at worst flush never comes or the big stack has the A of clubs and you get nothing
fist pump fold every single time, the thing about terrible players is you can be patient and get their money on the next orbit and don't need to risk it. maybe you sometimes fold a winning hand and the donkey shows a pair of tens while the old lady shows a naked straight draw but you need to make incorrect folds all the time in order to not punt stacks the way you do
you should see koshka's post from vlogs, i deleted a bunch of the unnecessary name calling for you
but yeah, this sounds rough but you need to drop those guys you're currently going to for advice and coaching
they may be good at poker, idk, but they certainly suck as coaches/mentors because if after a year you're still making these very basic mistakes that nobody who's done any kind of study/prreparation should be making
at the very least you need to drop them as gate keepers regarding seeking their approval over what strategy you adopt or not moving forward
also, anyone who gets what i wrote out of context and doesn't understand the purpose behind it "to clean up your fun player leaks and install discipline" will very correctly say it's a terrible plan
but more importantly, the fact they either don't recognize these leaks in you or do recognize and don't care/are indifferent is all the more reason to drop them
you can get top notch coaching at affordable rates where you are, i highly suggest you dip into the coaching marketplace here and buy a session with one of them who is based in vegas and see how there approach is different from the friend/coaches you've been using who've failed to produce any meaningful change nor results
i'd also wager good money the free advice itt you've been ignoring in lieu of their advice is coming from far more successful and accomplished players - i'm not speaking myself i "retired" over a decade ago and very out of the loop but some fairly well known and highly respected winning players have given you advice in the past which you've ignored in exchange for these mystery coaches you refuse to name
bottom line, if they don't want their "brand" associated with you then they clearly don't care about your success and are putting in minimal effort
Sorry I refuse to name my mystery coaches. I can *usually* handle the hate; I don't want that coming back on anyone but me. I may not be properly reflecting how much they have taught me.
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Rickroll, great post! But you don’t need to limit session times, have you played west coast 1/3 or 2/5 recently? He could play the game plan you laid out for months in these huge, terrible player pools before anyone adjusts.
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ty for the support lh and bh
@pman just wanted to add that i screwed up the typing as i adding it in my head and it's worse than i typed out
it's not putting in 330 for a 660 side pot i was just typing it off memory and was wrong
you called $60, he makes it $420, she calls for her remaining $90
it was a $360 call for you, but of that, $90 is going to the main pot which based off your reads you're never going to win
so you're putting in $360 hoping to win a side pot of $540
drop your "coaches" immediately if you're still not analyzing equities correctly regarding pots at stake, dead cards, etc
remember you never had a pure flush draw here with guaranteed the T is a dirty club for you and at least 2 clubs are held by villains - then even if you do hit the flush you still need to dodge the board pairing
no coach worth anything could ever have a student who after a year still didn't have this down to a pat
@pman just wanted to add that i screwed up the typing as i adding it in my head and it's worse than i typed out
it's not putting in 330 for a 660 side pot i was just typing it off memory and was wrong
you called $60, he makes it $420, she calls for her remaining $90
it was a $360 call for you, but of that, $90 is going to the main pot which based off your reads you're never going to win
so you're putting in $360 hoping to win a side pot of $540
drop your "coaches" immediately if you're still not analyzing equities correctly regarding pots at stake, dead cards, etc
remember you never had a pure flush draw here with guaranteed the T is a dirty club for you and at least 2 clubs are held by villains - then even if you do hit the flush you still need to dodge the board pairing
no coach worth anything could ever have a student who after a year still didn't have this down to a pat
TLDR made bad play, thought it was ok, analyzed it in the vlog as it being ok, later went over it with coaches who tore me a new one.
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How can anybody not like this kid? IÂ’m calling you kid out of spite because IÂ’d give up my bankroll to be your age lol . .
I definitely get nostalgic thinking back 17 years ago when I moved to Vegas to grind 1/3 and 2/5 at the Wynn before switching to mix and other types of gambling. I wish I had the wherewithal to create a brand via social media. Re the pit play, consider it a win that minimal damage was inflicted before you came to this realization. ItÂ’s fine to drink or play poker for most people - just not at the same time. My first coach liked to party but whether he was performing magic or taking down big tourneys, our partying didnÂ’t interfere with work. I think
Agree with others that lopping off the bottom of your ranges and employing a more boring 15/12 type default strat will get the money in these games. Exploiting the tendencies of loose passive fun players in big pots is the way to go. Rarely will they be 3/4 betting with worse than AQs, AKo, JJ+. ItÂ’s important not to assign them the ranges you hope they have when the money goes in. Generally, taking the highest ev line in a cash game, variance be damned, is correct. But they should make enough glaring mistakes that you can usually find a good spot and have them resigned to a crying call in the important pots. Still, itÂ’s worth noting that your story is more compelling and fun with the extra action, albeit not always ideal.
Studying is crucial to continued improvement and it will become more apparent as you move up in stakes and encounter more theoretically sound opponents and in online play. The time you put in getting footage, editing, and posting is definitely considered time spent working on your craft. Posting HHs here in a uniform standard fashion should yield some good feedback from the NL players here.
At these stakes solid aggressive play and a maximally exploitive style will get the money. YouÂ’re very much aware of what you need to do in order to reach your goals. Exercise, healthy diet, and meditation/prayer might help increase motivation and focus, improve your sleep and endurance. How sweet would it be if you were able to parlay a deep run into more exposure and a viable extra source of income? Wsop and other big events are only months away. Keep up the good work!
I definitely get nostalgic thinking back 17 years ago when I moved to Vegas to grind 1/3 and 2/5 at the Wynn before switching to mix and other types of gambling. I wish I had the wherewithal to create a brand via social media. Re the pit play, consider it a win that minimal damage was inflicted before you came to this realization. ItÂ’s fine to drink or play poker for most people - just not at the same time. My first coach liked to party but whether he was performing magic or taking down big tourneys, our partying didnÂ’t interfere with work. I think
Agree with others that lopping off the bottom of your ranges and employing a more boring 15/12 type default strat will get the money in these games. Exploiting the tendencies of loose passive fun players in big pots is the way to go. Rarely will they be 3/4 betting with worse than AQs, AKo, JJ+. ItÂ’s important not to assign them the ranges you hope they have when the money goes in. Generally, taking the highest ev line in a cash game, variance be damned, is correct. But they should make enough glaring mistakes that you can usually find a good spot and have them resigned to a crying call in the important pots. Still, itÂ’s worth noting that your story is more compelling and fun with the extra action, albeit not always ideal.
Studying is crucial to continued improvement and it will become more apparent as you move up in stakes and encounter more theoretically sound opponents and in online play. The time you put in getting footage, editing, and posting is definitely considered time spent working on your craft. Posting HHs here in a uniform standard fashion should yield some good feedback from the NL players here.
At these stakes solid aggressive play and a maximally exploitive style will get the money. YouÂ’re very much aware of what you need to do in order to reach your goals. Exercise, healthy diet, and meditation/prayer might help increase motivation and focus, improve your sleep and endurance. How sweet would it be if you were able to parlay a deep run into more exposure and a viable extra source of income? Wsop and other big events are only months away. Keep up the good work!
I dont mind you calling me kid! Haha. Thanks for the advice. I agree. While I meditate and pray daily, I could definitely throw in some exercise and a better diet. I am very glad you are enjoying my journey. I know I'm not the best poker player, but I strive to be. More studying and tighter play at the tables should help me. I'm also FINALLY putting in more hours at the table. Like i've been saying, my actions will speak louder than any words will at this point. I have built up a lazy image. I understand that. While part of it comes from anxiety / insomnia, the other half is definitely just laziness and excuses. Let's get past that and start crushing.
Oh cmon, it was funny!
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I guess you’ll think this is hating but it still looks like you haven’t done the math on how much you need to play in order to make a reasonable income… if you’re a good 10bb/hr pro and only take 2 weeks off a year 15hr/week of 1/3 is $22,500 per year before taxes. You mentioned you take Ubers to the casino, but that $30 is to much to make it worth it. At half that price a round trip Uber is 20% if your income even if you are able to get your average session up to 5 hours. This is a problem that scales even if you add more sessions played to your weekly schedule. The numbers don’t add up for survival let alone saving money to move up in stakes.
As for your comment, Uber to the closest casino is only $10. I'm thinking of saving for a car. I'm also trying to play more than 15hr a week. We will see if I can.
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yeah pman, embrace the walk, after a week it won't feel like such a burden
great time to be alone with your thoughts and clear you mind before a session
whenever i traveled for poker i'd always book a place that would be at least a 20 minute walk from the place i intended playing the most poker at - this would ensure i'd have a nice walk at the beginning and end of any session where i could clear my mind and focus on what layed ahead
if for any reason the place i ended up staying was closer to that then i'd intentionally take a roundabout pathway to going there
great time to be alone with your thoughts and clear you mind before a session
whenever i traveled for poker i'd always book a place that would be at least a 20 minute walk from the place i intended playing the most poker at - this would ensure i'd have a nice walk at the beginning and end of any session where i could clear my mind and focus on what layed ahead
if for any reason the place i ended up staying was closer to that then i'd intentionally take a roundabout pathway to going there
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The goal should be a leatherass playing at least 50 hours a week as it'll be the only way to get out of 1/3 within a few years. Nit it up, take the fishes money and save as much money as possible.
But no one should play 1/3 for a living. If he has less than 15k bankroll he should just game select WSOP .5/1 or .25/.50 and 4-6 table as the hourly is bound to be more as you get more hands an hour, game selection is easier and there are no expenses beyond internet/rent.
I am "negative energy" person but in one of his videos he non-chantantly says he got stacked with A2 on AKT and the other guy had QJ. Like it's hard for me to see any way a pro would lose more than like 11bb from any position on this board but somehow pman got stacked.
Pman, you're not good enough to be a pro. You need to study and you need to grind as much as you can. Cancel netflix, stop activities that don't benefit you physically or financially. Stop making excuses like you're not in the mood. Well tough ****, get your ass in the game.
But no one should play 1/3 for a living. If he has less than 15k bankroll he should just game select WSOP .5/1 or .25/.50 and 4-6 table as the hourly is bound to be more as you get more hands an hour, game selection is easier and there are no expenses beyond internet/rent.
I am "negative energy" person but in one of his videos he non-chantantly says he got stacked with A2 on AKT and the other guy had QJ. Like it's hard for me to see any way a pro would lose more than like 11bb from any position on this board but somehow pman got stacked.
Pman, you're not good enough to be a pro. You need to study and you need to grind as much as you can. Cancel netflix, stop activities that don't benefit you physically or financially. Stop making excuses like you're not in the mood. Well tough ****, get your ass in the game.
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Thank you everyone for the comments. This is the type of energy / vibe i can roll with. Criticism, but structured in a friendly way. I think what sets me off is the keyboard warriors who say they have it all, know EXACTLY what I need to do, and that I just wont do it. They know "everything" about me and why i am failing. And thats just not the case. On that note, I go sleep!
