Hi! Have been playing alot of different games on pokerstars. But I decided to start to give PLO a good new start and learn the game from smallest stakes and up. Today went really good. Might post graph tomorrow.
I'd advice playing way less tables if your current goal is learning the game.
Thanks for the advice! I probably know that subconsciously but I get so bored playing less tables. Instead I bomb myself with decisions and after around 500 to 1000 hands I go through the hands from my session. Trying to find flaws and leaks as well as looking at percentages.
Played 16 to 24 tables NLHE before and loved it. But the game in itself makes me bored. And if I dont have any goals or challenges I also find the game boring and then I just spew chips around me. One of my biggest flaws in personality when it comes to gambling.
GL PLO is soul crushing when you run like ****.
Post graph @20k hands.
Yeah! I understand that. Thought I could beat daily variance by playing a lot of tables. But as I heard. Great variance is hard to beat even in a week. :P
Played really bad today. I think it was because I felt tired waking up and its been a slow day. Looking through my HH I can find some over belief in my own hands and calling in weak spots.
Is there anything you are doing to learn the game besides the volume? Books, training sites, coaching, etc?
Learning to play PLO well is on my agenda and am looking at places to start.
GLGL and looking forward to seeing some graphs.
I also think some of your poker background would make the thread a bit more interesting and would also help the readers understand what kind of player you are.
Edit: Haven't played any serious PLO but I'd have a hard time folding that last hand. I likely play it similarly to how you did.
Played really bad today. I think it was because I felt tired waking up and its been a slow day. Looking through my HH I can find some over belief in my own hands and calling in weak spots.
Thought I was ahead but he had me really good. Augh...
yeah i bet/call this turn, Way to deep to shove here esp when he min raises its like saying "i go the nuts call me" If the turn was a K of hearts it would be a bit different. however in this case bet/call turn.
Then for your river plan is: Ad Would bet around half pot folding to raise/ Kd i would check and evaluate on his betsizing/ any other diamond check call (he is likely to bet weaker flushes here but we cannot stand a raise and since betfold=checkcall its ok to check here and hope he thinly bets a weaker diamond/ Blank A or 9. I wouldnt like to check here incase he check behinds although he is likely to barrel again (need to check aggr freq) since he raised turn most 2plo players get scared in this spot and check behind So i would lead 3/4 pot. However if he was a really aggressive player i would try to Checkraise or bet small to induce.
Is there anything you are doing to learn the game besides the volume? Books, training sites, coaching, etc?
Learning to play PLO well is on my agenda and am looking at places to start.
GLGL and looking forward to seeing some graphs.
I also think some of your poker background would make the thread a bit more interesting and would also help the readers understand what kind of player you are.
Edit: Haven't played any serious PLO but I'd have a hard time folding that last hand. I likely play it similarly to how you did.
Thank you, and good luck to you too!
Im gonna update my first post later to write a good history of me as a player and what I've done up 'til now. Just too lazy. Hehe!
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Originally Posted by maxostoch
Nice there, omaha is the future game imo.. im going to learn it too, good luck bro!
Thanks! Yeah... thats a litte bit of why I want to learn this game. Good luck too your quest of getting in to the game.
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Originally Posted by 7ylerdurd3n
yeah i bet/call this turn, Way to deep to shove here esp when he min raises its like saying "i go the nuts call me" If the turn was a K of hearts it would be a bit different. however in this case bet/call turn.
Then for your river plan is: Ad Would bet around half pot folding to raise/ Kd i would check and evaluate on his betsizing/ any other diamond check call (he is likely to bet weaker flushes here but we cannot stand a raise and since betfold=checkcall its ok to check here and hope he thinly bets a weaker diamond/ Blank A or 9. I wouldnt like to check here incase he check behinds although he is likely to barrel again (need to check aggr freq) since he raised turn most 2plo players get scared in this spot and check behind So i would lead 3/4 pot. However if he was a really aggressive player i would try to Checkraise or bet small to induce.
Thanks for the input. Read it through and you made me think a bit of other lines. Playing semi-agressivly right now and want to learn how to exploit different spots and minimize others. GL! And sry for donk today even though AAxx > AAxx is kind of normal.
Putting in some heavy volume today with 1K sessions. And the day just started awful. Played really bad. Then turned that awful play in to an 1,5K hand +/- streak. Nothing won, nothing lost. Even my EV-line was totally straight. Then I looked through some hands and adjusted my play to a little tighter pre flop and a little more aggressive post flop. I think that line works better if you actually have cards that catch flops, and on donkstakes its really easy to make ppl call you down with worse.
I also adjusted my play to bluff a little (dont normally do that on PLO2, just because of the reason mentioned above) But you have to pick your spots, end especially players. The better the better, if you know what I mean. Hehe...
... anyway. Finally made my EV-line go upwards in a good 1K hands but wasnt as lucky in my all-ins. Two hands from my session:
River:($0.81, 2 players) 6 BB bets $0.78, Hero raises to $1.72 and is all-in, BB calls $0.94
Spoiler:
Hero shows 3 A 5 A (Full House, Aces full of Sixes) (Pre 70%, Flop 94%, Turn 97%) BB shows 6 6 K 7 (Four of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 30%, Flop 6%, Turn 3%) BB wins $4.10
2. This is a hand played on villains stats. No call on river if he wasnt "69" in aggression. But I knew he would attack me hard no matter what he had and just called it down.
Putting in some heavy volume today with 1K sessions. And the day just started awful. Played really bad. Then turned that awful play in to an 1,5K hand +/- streak. Nothing won, nothing lost. Even my EV-line was totally straight. Then I looked through some hands and adjusted my play to a little tighter pre flop and a little more aggressive post flop. I think that line works better if you actually have cards that catch flops, and on donkstakes its really easy to make ppl call you down with worse.
I also adjusted my play to bluff a little (dont normally do that on PLO2, just because of the reason mentioned above) But you have to pick your spots, end especially players. The better the better, if you know what I mean. Hehe...
... anyway. Finally made my EV-line go upwards in a good 1K hands but wasnt as lucky in my all-ins. Two hands from my session:
River:($0.81, 2 players) 6 BB bets $0.78, Hero raises to $1.72 and is all-in, BB calls $0.94
Spoiler:
Hero shows 3 A 5 A (Full House, Aces full of Sixes) (Pre 70%, Flop 94%, Turn 97%) BB shows 6 6 K 7 (Four of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 30%, Flop 6%, Turn 3%) BB wins $4.10
2. This is a hand played on villains stats. No call on river if he wasnt "69" in aggression. But I knew he would attack me hard no matter what he had and just called it down.
BB shows T A 7 K (High Card, Ace) (Pre 50%, Flop 35%, Turn 15%) Hero shows 6 8 8 6 (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 50%, Flop 65%, Turn 85%) Hero wins $2.90
H1: quite an awkward spot if you had middle set here on the river your almost always beat (assuming 3h paired then he is either gonna show up AAA33 or 3333 no inbetween has happend to me a numerous amount of times) In This case its marginal town cuz there is alot of hands he can show up with but he is either gonna show up with 33366 666A or 6666. KhxxH