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10-08-2019 , 09:32 PM
Welcome aboard, I hope to be updating a bit more frequently these days now that I am playing semi-regularly again.

As for GG's comments, my call of the raise was pretty thin I agree. You're right in that I'm not going to win much off the pro. In fact he's a player I've targeted before with bluffs that I would never run vs. a rec, because I know he has a fold button.

As far as playing two pair passively, I think board texture is a big factor. On a dry board I think calling down and only betting if checked to can be a fine play, I've certainly taken that approach before. On a wet board like this one, there are a couple new wrinkles to consider:

1. Villains ranges consist of a lot more drawing hands and pair+draw hands that we can get value from. We can raise wider for value because we are targeting a much wider range. Just think how many more hands villains can call a flop raise with on KT2 flush draw vs. K72r.

2. The presence of draws allows villains to put us on a wider range, and widen their continue range. I probably error in overestimating this effect, as a lot of villains aren't this sophisticated, and it sort of goes hand in hand with point #1, but against a villain who is trying to range me, and can give me a wide raising range on this board, I can again widen my value range because I can balance it out with more semi-bluffs.

What I think really happened to me was when V1 tanked I put him on something like AK/KQ, and got married to the read even though he made a 3-bet that screamed value town. I also knew KT/22 weren't in his preflop range, so that left only 4 combos of sets I'm losing to. That's probably one of my biggest mental game leaks, is that I get married to a range and don't adjust it when future action tells me I should.
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10-22-2019 , 09:51 PM
I put in a pretty solid session yesterday. I wish I had more to talk about, but at the end of it I only really played two significant pots, and both worked in my favor.

Limped around to me in the BB and I pick up AA. I make it $20 and get 2 calls. Flop comes KQ7 with a flush draw. I lead $40, get jammed on by a guy with about $150 back, call it off, and hold vs. his flush draw.

Then later in the session a particularly annoying guy sits down two to my right, berates the fish to my right, and is getting on everyone's nerves. Shortly into his tenure, I pick up Q3o in the BB, and its a 7 way limped pot, with the annoying V on the btn. One nice thing about playing on Monday nights is that it's when the full house pyramid resets. This week it's 2's, 3's and Q's. So if I can make a full house with this hand in either direction I pick up an extra $100.

Flop ($14) Q33. Jackpot! Although I still need to get the pot up to $20 to qualify for the bonus, as well as fading additional cards that could cost me. SB helps by leading out $13. I flat, as does V.

Turn($47) Q33K

SB checks and I make an FU bet of $15. It was probably a bit too small as I think hands that call $15 are also likely calling $20 or $25. But it works and I get two calls.

River($92) Q33K9

SB checks again. Time to try to get max value. $50 seems about right. V tanks for a while then calls, SB folds. I show and V mucks AA. He then goes on to berate me for playing Q3o. I wasn't even sure what to say. The dude limps the BTN with AA after 4 limps in front, I see a free flop in the BB, flop a boat, yet somehow I screwed up? He became the butt of a lot of jokes at the table after that. Thankfully he didn't chase off anyone at what was a very good table.

I'm out of my short term downswing on that win. I'm still in the middle of about a 50 hour breakeven stretch. It's not my worst ever, but it will be nice if I can book a couple more wins just to reset the clock on that downswing.

I'm starting to see a lot of new faces in the poker room which is always nice. We can still get 2 or 3 tables going even on a slow Monday night, and the tourney action is strong as well. On to the next session.
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10-23-2019 , 11:50 AM
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I show and V mucks AA. He then goes on to berate me for playing Q3o. I wasn't even sure what to say.
Lol @ this guy.

I sometimes can't help myself and play the complete idiot here just to entertain myself and stir the pot. "Q3o is my favourite hand which is why I limped it; I was actually going to limp/reraise it, so good thing you didn't raise your Button" and see where it goes, lol.

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10-23-2019 , 10:31 PM
That guy was a special type of villain. I've been berated for my play plenty of times over the years, much of it justified. This was the first time I got crap for hitting a big blind special.

It ended up being a really fun table. There were a surprising number of Europeans there, despite being out in rural Michigan. I don't normally get tables that good on Monday night. Usually it's the same batch of regs and a few people driving through. It's weird to complain about $400 in 3 hours, but I was frustratingly card dead at a heavy action table. My VPIP for the session was likely under 15%.
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10-24-2019 , 12:12 PM
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My VPIP for the session was likely under 15%.
Whale.

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10-29-2019 , 08:33 PM
Finally, a session with some hands to discuss!

V in this hand is a whale. Seeing every flop for almost any price. He's talked about playing bigger games, and if he does, I'll chase him there. He seems to at least understand the game, despite having no preflop discipline. He starts the hand with about $140 and I cover. The hand immediately before this I raised with ATo, he called, I c-bet him heads up and he folded.

6-handed, hero UTG with KT raises to $10. V calls OTB, heads up to the flop.

Flop($20)QT7

Hero bets $10, V snap calls.

Turn($40) QT72

Hero checks, V bets $20. Hero calls.

River($80) QT72Q

Hero checks. V snap jams for $100. I've been wrong about live tells before but everything about this guys behavior in the hand is he FOS. I just don't believe he has Qx here. It was a drawy board and they all bricked out. I normally preach a don't bluffcatch at 1/2 strategy, but I don't always practice what I preach, and I think that advice doesn't translate as well to hands that I'm actually playing and watching the body language and table dynamic. I call, and he mucks.

Later in the session I'm sitting at about $375, and a somewhat competent but too loose V is sitting at around $350. We're 8 handed and I pick up QT UTG.

A quick aside here. These types of hands in EP are controversial. Old TAG wisdom is to fold. However some pretty good 1/2 players I respect will open any two suited broadways from any position. They can play well both heads up and multiway, and can make monsters on action boards. One thing that pushes me towards playing this hand is that I'm at a deep table with some pretty big fish.

Hero raises UTG to $10 with QT I get 5 calls (this was a bit excessive).

Flop($60)A42

Blinds check, hero goes with a $25 c-bet. Someone will usually have an ace here, but if not, I can often win right now on this board. If not, I'm usually setting a nice price for myself to see the turn. That plan fails quickly as a short-stack with $80 behind jams. V OTB initially throws out $25 like he's only trying to call my first bet, but quickly realizes he's now on the hook for $80. He completes it. Folds to me, and this is interesting. I can call getting a great price 3-ways. Or just jam and try to knock V out of the pot and go heads up with an overlay. V isn't too aggressive, so I think I'll get a free look at the river a lot on a flat, and I want to go for some value if I can. I call.

Turn($300)A42J

Bink! With about $250 back, I just rip it in. V says something like "Sure, I like action" and calls.

River blanks out, but V flips K9 for the massive 175BB cooler gut punch. Ouch. I'm pretty sure the only way I don't get stacked here is to fold pre. I don't want to base my preflop strategy off of a nut vs 2nd nut flush cooler, but maybe these hands deserve a deeper philosophical discussion. I think this might make a good LLSNL thread.

Maybe it's my style of play, selective bias, or bad luck, but I feel like I've been on the wrong side of coolers way more than I should be. Flush over flush. 2 pair vs. set. Trips vs boat. Set vs flush. I know we've all been there, but it feels like the universe is out of balance right now.
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10-29-2019 , 09:17 PM
Well played sir!
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10-30-2019 , 12:22 PM
I used to play any two suited broadway from any position because I thought it was likely profitable. And in games where people were hurp durping in a bunch of money in very multiple limped pots with just lol TP (or worse!) then it likely was profitable.

But now I limit EP suited broadway to ATs+/KQs. We're just not nearly as likely to see a high SPR pot due to lots of pots being reraised preflop (and even moreso if there are some shortstacks in the mix); we'll be OOP making the hands harder to play and get paid off; we're probably not up against as many morons who will take TP/etc. to the felt on obviously bad runouts. At full 10 handed tables, my guess is that hands like QTs are likely only profitable in LP (where position is required to make them profitable). (inb4 MikeStarr says he's collected data that says otherwise smileyface)

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11-05-2019 , 07:26 PM
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I used to play any two suited broadway from any position because I thought it was likely profitable. And in games where people were hurp durping in a bunch of money in very multiple limped pots with just lol TP (or worse!) then it likely was profitable.

But now I limit EP suited broadway to ATs+/KQs. We're just not nearly as likely to see a high SPR pot due to lots of pots being reraised preflop (and even moreso if there are some shortstacks in the mix); we'll be OOP making the hands harder to play and get paid off; we're probably not up against as many morons who will take TP/etc. to the felt on obviously bad runouts. At full 10 handed tables, my guess is that hands like QTs are likely only profitable in LP (where position is required to make them profitable). (inb4 MikeStarr says he's collected data that says otherwise smileyface)

Gimo,butI'masupernitG
lol I see the thread played out as expected. There was some decent discussion before it devolved into the usual nit vs. lag stuff. I'll post my hand shortly.
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11-05-2019 , 07:39 PM
Maniac Table!

All around great table last night with some really bad players including one really deep stacked maniac getting really splashy. He's raising probably 75% of hands. My first 2 hours at the table he probably drank 4 long islands and ran his stack up to over $1K, and is trying really hard to give it all back.

I made a pretty big mistake early on when I raised pre and then triple barreled 66 on an A9x flop. He said he had a 9 and I believed him, so I tried to make it look like I was value betting an Ace the whole way, and he snap called me all 3 streets (it was K9). He said he had a tell on me, but I'm going with he was just a fish.

There was one hand I got in the mix with where I was never really confident in what I was doing.

I had ATo in mid-position. My stack is $400 and V covers. V opens to $16 in EP. His range is pretty much any two. Older asian guy next to him, new to the table, flats with $200. I call, and one of the blinds call.

Flop($60) T86

Checks to maniac and he bets $85. Big overbets have been standard. His range could be pretty wide, but probably not a complete airball. V next to him calls. I call??

Turn($315)

Flop($60) T864

V Jams . Asian guy calls. I fold. V never shows, but Asian guy had a surprise KK and it was good on a J river.

I feel like 3-bet pre/jam-flop were viable moves here. I'm never folding out the KK here, as he was way under-repped, Calling off on the turn also felt OK vs. the maniac. It was a thin spot and I chickened out, but I think I could've taken a stronger stand vs. the maniac here, and maybe do without another call in the middle.

Now for the fun stuff.

Maniac is OTB, where he was usually straddling to $10. House rule is the straddle can be any amount up to half your stack. First he puts out $10. Then he puts out about $35. Then about $130. Before the dealer starts he says "Why don't you just announce your size and we'll go from there." Maniac says "$200". I'm in the BB, down to $300 from the AT hand. My first card is a Q. I tell myself if the next card is an A, Q, or K of that suit, my stack goes in. It's another Q. Whelp, this is easy. The SB folds and I rip it in. Folds to V and he calls with any two cards as he should.

Board runs out pretty dry but A high. Can I fade it? Yes! Nice double up on a $300 gift from the maniac. I somehow managed to pick up QQ when facing the biggest straddle I had ever seen at 1/2. I think the previous record was $100.

After a swingy session I left up $250. The maniac was down to about $250 when I left, after having probably $1300 at one point. On some rare occasions I have thought about asking for a curfew extension to stay at a dream table, and this one would have qualified. Maybe next time I will ride it out.
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11-06-2019 , 01:08 PM
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lol I see the thread played out as expected. There was some decent discussion before it devolved into the usual nit vs. lag stuff. I'll post my hand shortly.
Yeah, sigh. That's the way it mostly goes in there.

As I say, I mentioned that Tommy Angelo / Lee Jones recent YouTube video (regarding "is tight still right?") and was really surprised that Tommy's baseline is folding AJs UTG (whereas I'm a whale and limping in with both AJs and ATs but mucking A9s in EP). But that's Tommy's line in the sand for which he can think he can be obviously profitable on; mine's a little a looser. And there will no doubt be crushing players who are a lot looser than that (and who even start adding lol hands like QTs, smileyface). It's up to everyone to decide for themselves where they think the profitable line for *them* is in their game. And even in the end, if any of us is wrong, it likely ain't by much (they're marginal winners / losers either way).

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11-06-2019 , 01:19 PM
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Maniac Table!

All around great table last night with some really bad players including one really deep stacked maniac getting really splashy. He's raising probably 75% of hands. My first 2 hours at the table he probably drank 4 long islands and ran his stack up to over $1K, and is trying really hard to give it all back.

I made a pretty big mistake early on when I raised pre and then triple barreled 66 on an A9x flop. He said he had a 9 and I believed him, so I tried to make it look like I was value betting an Ace the whole way, and he snap called me all 3 streets (it was K9). He said he had a tell on me, but I'm going with he was just a fish.

There was one hand I got in the mix with where I was never really confident in what I was doing.

I had ATo in mid-position. My stack is $400 and V covers. V opens to $16 in EP. His range is pretty much any two. Older asian guy next to him, new to the table, flats with $200. I call, and one of the blinds call.

Flop($60) T86

Checks to maniac and he bets $85. Big overbets have been standard. His range could be pretty wide, but probably not a complete airball. V next to him calls. I call??

Turn($315)

Flop($60) T864

V Jams . Asian guy calls. I fold. V never shows, but Asian guy had a surprise KK and it was good on a J river.

I feel like 3-bet pre/jam-flop were viable moves here. I'm never folding out the KK here, as he was way under-repped, Calling off on the turn also felt OK vs. the maniac. It was a thin spot and I chickened out, but I think I could've taken a stronger stand vs. the maniac here, and maybe do without another call in the middle.

Now for the fun stuff.

Maniac is OTB, where he was usually straddling to $10. House rule is the straddle can be any amount up to half your stack. First he puts out $10. Then he puts out about $35. Then about $130. Before the dealer starts he says "Why don't you just announce your size and we'll go from there." Maniac says "$200". I'm in the BB, down to $300 from the AT hand. My first card is a Q. I tell myself if the next card is an A, Q, or K of that suit, my stack goes in. It's another Q. Whelp, this is easy. The SB folds and I rip it in. Folds to V and he calls with any two cards as he should.

Board runs out pretty dry but A high. Can I fade it? Yes! Nice double up on a $300 gift from the maniac. I somehow managed to pick up QQ when facing the biggest straddle I had ever seen at 1/2. I think the previous record was $100.

After a swingy session I left up $250. The maniac was down to about $250 when I left, after having probably $1300 at one point. On some rare occasions I have thought about asking for a curfew extension to stay at a dream table, and this one would have qualified. Maybe next time I will ride it out.
Probably lots of different ways you can play with a maniac at the table. The choice of method will likely hinge on how well you can mentally handle ridiculous swings. For me and my comfort level, I just nit it the **** up here. Is it optimal? Probably not, unless you factor in the importance of maintaining a very healthy mental state toward the game in order to survive long term. So in this case, in MP, with a caller, and still half the world to react behind me, I just fold preflop. But that's me. I actually decided this the last time I attempted to isolate the loose whale open with AJo from MP and ran into another loose player flatting KK; me repping the K on a K high flop for a PSB shove didn't work out too well. There's a lotta landmines out there at 10 handed tables.

Lol @ your double up story, nice. I told this story in the chat thread the other week, but long story short, similar situation in that the whale at the table has now decided to give back his stack and has blind shoved in EP twice (after having racked up to go home, lol). He doubles up some short stacks, then unracks his remaining chips to continue playing. He's on the precipice. A few hands later I limp in QQ, he raises to lol $10, a call of $10, and I rip in all $420 into the $25 pot, cuz that's a reasonable raise size, right? He snaps, I see an A in the window and K in the door, and yet I'm good. Lol.

You have a curfew deal with the wife? Lol, me too. It's good to have, imo.

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11-06-2019 , 10:11 PM
One thing that I think can be a smart play at low stakes is to just 4-bet jam almost regardless of stack size if you find yourself lucky enough to get 3-bet when you have AA. Most people will just call off with any hand they felt like 3-betting, and it doesn't give them a chance to make a smart play on the flop. They'll call off with JJ preflop, but if an over hits the board they might shut down. Likewise if they have AK but whiff the flop. It's worked a couple times.

It didn't work so good when I did it in Vegas at 2/5. We were 1K deep, I opened to $15, got 3-bet to $65, and I ripped in $1K. The guy thought for like 20 seconds and folded, but was really curious what I had. He later said he had ATs, so I don't think I was getting another dime no matter my 4-bet size.

As for my curfew, it's more of an agreed upon return home time. At least that's what I tell myself. Usually on poker nights I'm lucky to get 5 hours of sleep if I follow the curfew, so stretching it just means work is going to be really painful the next day. I'd be more willing to stretch it if I was up huge, my wife is more understanding of that. She doesn't quite get it when I say "look, I'm at a dream table with a bunch of bad fish, but I'm down $400."
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11-07-2019 , 01:18 PM
This happened once at the table with this married semi-reg I play with.

He chuckles to himself after texting something and says to me, "I just texted my wife: 'Gonna stay a little later, there's a lotta action at the table'; she texts back 'Lotta maniacs or whatever you call them?'; I text, 'No, a lotta hot chicks!'".

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11-08-2019 , 04:18 AM
Lol’d after reading about the 4! jam to $1,000 over a $65 3!.

I think I’d turbo muck kings in that spot.
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11-09-2019 , 11:42 PM
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Lol’d after reading about the 4! jam to $1,000 over a $65 3!.

I think I’d turbo muck kings in that spot.
The speculation over what I had was pretty funny. I think I heard JJ, AK, and the closest was KK. It was ridiculous for sure. I play bigger than 1/2 about twice per year. I usually do the stupid thing where I think I can get away with things I can't at 1/2. This was something I brought from 1/2 that I probably shouldn't have.
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11-14-2019 , 08:18 AM
Nit fold alert.

There were actually a couple of them this session. Overall the session was a win. I got crushed by the deck in the first hour. Then it went cold and I made some pretty nitty folds, starting with this one.

Eff stacks $400. Hero has AA Villain is a regular. Pretty solid player. He can sometimes get aggressive pre and post with a wide value range.

1 limp and hero raises to $13 OTB. Villain flats in the SB, all fold, and we're heads up to the flop. V checks dark before the flop comes (something he does a lot).

Flop($26)QTT

Hero bets $15 and V calls and checks dark again.

Turn($54) QTTQ

Hero checks back.

River($54) QTTQJ

V Bets $35, and hero tank folds. There were a few reasons I wanted to fold. He has a ton of Q's and T's, although he is going to x/r those on the flop some % of the time. His river sizing also seemed like he wanted a call. I felt like if it were a bluff he may have gone a bit bigger. I was struggling to figure out what he would have turned into a bluff here. On the flip side, thinking it back over, he has a lot of PP's that now play the board he could turn into a bluff, so maybe he has enough bluffs that I could have profitably called this.

Next hand, later in the session, after I got moved to a new table. V comes off as a pretty standard TAG. Late 20's early 30's guy. Hero has $500 and V covers.

V opens in EP to $7. He had used this size before on his opens, so I don't read too much into it. 2 calls. Hero 3-bets OTB to $35 with AA folds to V who snap calls. Other 2 callers fold out, and we're heads up to the flop.

Flop($80)KJ6

V checks, hero bets $25, V x/r to $80, and hero tank folds. In my mind I fast forward to the river where the board has run out sort of bad for my hand and I'm facing the shove he's setting up for. He has all JJ/66 hands here, plus some KJ. My AA blocks a lot of hands I want him to have, like AK, AQ, AT. I can't think of what he'd turn into a bluff here that would have just snap called my 3-bet pre. It was like I could see the JJ in his hand. I know this is a really exploitative fold, and one that I can never make against a balanced player. I'm not even 100% sure either of these folds are good at 1/2.

At the end of the session I asked him what he had, and he said A4s. As my read evolved throughout the session, the more I though I probably should have called that. Although I don't think you can often get $500 in the pot at 1/2 with 1-pair and be good very often.

Overall I played a pretty disciplined session. It was probably one of my cleaner sessions in that I don't think I did anything too dumb at any point. I just made some hands and got paid, then made some tight folds in some thin spots. Hopefully I can keep making a good push to close out the year on a high note.
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11-14-2019 , 08:25 AM
Generally any quick action is usually a medium to weaker strength hand from my experience. If he had JJ+ or AK I imagine he’d at least consider 4 betting pre, so Id discount those hands from him range if he didn’t take any time to think. Obv hate getting c/r in this spot at a live 1/2 game but I’d have to have some string reads to give that up otf. I don’t think it’s terrible tho, plenty of opponents where it’s an easy fold.


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11-14-2019 , 12:31 PM
In the end, I think we should be leaning to overfolding rather than overcalling, simply due to the fact that (a) people rarely overplay hands like TP nowadays and (b) bluffs simply aren't nearly as common as value bets (they still exist of course, but they're much rarer than pure value bets).

So I'm ok with both folds (although obviously there are reasons to not fold in both cases), but I'm a nit.

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11-15-2019 , 09:19 AM
I 100% agree with that. Like I've said before, bluffcatching at low stakes is a fools errand. Even normally "good" GTO bluffcatching spots where we have the right blockers in our hand to make the call, we should just chuck them. We should always want to at least beat some of our opponents value range.

Although at 1/2 we're usually playing the player more than we are trying to balance, because we're just not getting bluffed at the GTO frequencies. Even against good opponents it can be tricky. Because if they are good 1/2 players, they also know not to bluff at the GTO frequencies, because they are going to get stationed off a lot, and don't need to balance in order to get paid with strong hands.

There are a couple things that make both these spots a bit more unique though.

Spot 1 where I fold the river, I have played many hours with this villain. He knows me, and likely has at least some respect for my game. It's also a spot where he may be likely to overbluff, as he could have reasonably gotten this far with a wide range of hands that he could turn into a bluff here. If he was going to bluff here, I don't know that he would balance well, and just fire off with all of his hands. But he can also have plenty of value as played. I'm not sure how many Qx and Tx combos he would realistically have vs. underpairs, but maybe I'll do the combinatorics on this and see what it comes out to.

Spot 2 is a bit more straightforward. This is not a spot where I expect even savvy 1/2 players to fire too many bluffs. It's a 3-bet pot on a board where I have a massive range advantage as the 3-bettor. The only caveat to this one is that I can potentially beat some of his value range, even if x/r that value is an overplay. I feel like it's 2005 again and people are playing top pair more aggressively now, although it's not as bad as it was back then, since people are c-betting and bluffing a bit more now.

Overall I'm not losing much sleep over either fold, they're just some of the tougher spots I've been in lately. I'm on a relatively successful run here, so hopefully I can close out the year strong. Overall it's been a bit of a down year from an hourly rate standpoint, but a few more good sessions could change that.
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11-15-2019 , 12:06 PM
In H1 it's also very possible we played Qx/Tx this way (checking back the turn to ensure we get one more bet paid off), so that also somewhat reduces the chance he's bluffing into our nuts.

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11-19-2019 , 11:12 PM
I played some craptacular poker last night. I was at a weird table and I found myself struggling a bit to adjust. It was the limpiest table I've seen in a long time. But guys were limp/folding at a rate that I haven't seen before. I would get AK OTB, get 5 limps, raise to $17, and it would fold around. I pretty much got no action the whole night. I was whiffing flops left and right. I only won a few small pots here and there. Most of my losses came on these two hands:

$5 straddle OTB. A loose splashy guy in the SB makes it $11. a couple calls, and I call in the HJ with KJ. Maybe a bit loose, but I don't like folding suited broadways. The button calls.

Flop ($50) K85

Checks to me and I bet $30. Button calls, rest fold. Button I've played with before but am struggling to remember my read, but I do remember him not being good.

Turn($110) K85A

I check, he bets $35, I call. Even for this bet size this should probably be a fold.

River($180) K85A9

I check, he bets $50. All the draws whiffed, and this is less than 1/3 pot. I talk myself into a call, and of course he has AK.

The next hand isn't quite as bad, but still weird.

I'm OTB with K8. UTG makes it $6, which is basically a joke bet, he could have ATC. A couple calls, and I call because why not. I figured I would limp this OTB, and this is basically a limped pot. BB calls as well.

Flop($30)842

BB donks out $20. folds to me. He's only got 45 more behind so I put him in. He has 42s and holds.

It was an annoying session. There was a healthy mix of runbad and playbad, despite playing at possibly one of the loosest tables in recent memory, if not ever. In 4 hours there was not a single blind chop, and I think only once or twice did it even fold to the button. Probably 80% of pots were limped. I didn't adjust or play particularly well, and I have the losses to show for it. I need to do better next time.
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11-20-2019 , 01:34 PM
H1:

I'm a nit, so I fold KJs preflop to the raise. I dunno, I just like my drawing hands to the nuts, and think there is a world of difference in profitability between AJs here (which is always drawing to the nuts and wins all the flush over flush cases) vs KJs (which sometimes doesn't win the flush over flush case and those cases are devastating). I also like having position; just too good a chance that we ain't gonna have this in the HJ (and not having position in this hand ends up costing us a big street bet thanks to not being allowed to check back a street thru, imo).

I'm fine with the flop bet.

I sorta lean to a turn bet here. There are draws to charge, we have an easy fold if raised (and don't have a draw that we would hate folding), and we're fine with ending the hand here with this weak a hand (unlike a stronger hand where we'd be more fine with turning into a bluffcatcher).

I understand our pot odds reasoning for calling the later streets, but mostly this is just someone milking us.


H2:

I'm ~ok with preflop. I don't play Qxs any more on the Button, and depending on who's limped in I sometimes don't even play Kxs any more (similar reasoning for me not playing KJs above). But I'm a super nit.

Even though I'm not in love with facing a donk into the world (I think this would be a trivial fold if stacks were non-micro), at his micro stack I think I'm fine with getting it in.

Gsometimespokersucks,goodluckG
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11-25-2019 , 09:36 PM
So my wife had a tooth pulled last week and didn't feel like doing much this last weekend, which meant that I got to put in a rare double session. I played both Friday and Sunday nights, and crushed them both.

There really wasn't much from a hands standpoint that I remember being that noteworthy. I ran into some whales making some pretty bad bets. I found myself in some spots where I was pot controlling and bluff catching more than usual, so that was sort of fun.

V here is a button clicker. Just all over the place, but usually over aggressive.

V limps, I raise to $12 with black 9's in MP, BTN calls, and V calls.

Flop($30) T74

Checks, I bet $20, BTN folds, V calls.

Turn($70) T74 T

V Jams for $65, I call and hold vs. 65o. Not a horrible bluff, but the way he was playing up to this point I would have expected a donk or x/r if he had binked a T on the flop, and/or a slowplay if he had trips here. His jam reeked of BS.

1 limp to me and I bump it to $12 from the CO with QJ. BB Calls, limper folds.

Flop($23)T28

Checks, I bet $15, and V calls.

Turn($50) T285

check/check

River ($50) T583J

V bets $25, I call, and am good against 95 I'm not really sure what this guy was thinking here. He threw a mini fit about getting rivered.

V opens to $8 from MP, I call A9 OTB, and BB comes along.

Flop($21)A45

BB checks, V bets $13, I call and so does BB. I'm not giving up top pair this easily vs. a somewhat splashier player.

Turn($57) A454

checks around.

River($57) A454T

Checks to V and he bets $25. I call, BB folds, and I'm good vs. JT It was a pretty bad bet from him. It's not totally unreasonable to think that his 2nd pair might be good here, but he can never get any value with it. 15 years later and bad players still keep making this fundamental mistake.

One last thing. I checked my poker spreadsheet. At live NL, since 2014, I only have about 360 hours logged. I know there's a decent amount of unlogged hours as well from Vegas and some other nights, so lets just say I think I'm at about 500 hours live. Over 90% of my lifetime hands played have been online. Those games played a lot differently. You don't see anywhere near the volume of bad recs online like you do live. I'm thinking there will be a future strat post coming soon on how to recognize the types of bad players seen live, and how to maximize value. It's a skill set that really only applies to these low stakes games, but one that I think you'll need if you really want to crush them, and one I think I'm only now starting to develop. That's all for now.
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12-04-2019 , 09:31 AM
I had another session at a really wild table. There were two deepstacked maniacs trying to give away their money. By the time I left one maniac had busted and gone home, and the other was rebuying. Unfortunately I only got about $50 of the over $1K they had in play. Most of it went to the loose passive station who was just binking left and right.

For the first couple hours I was as card dead as it gets. Raised pots were going 5 or 6 ways. At first the best it got was AJ and AK, but with tons of multiway action and whiffed flops, there was nothing there. I think I went about 2 hours without winning a pot.

Then in the last hour things got interesting. I picked up KK, and did something I almost never do and limped it. One of the maniacs had raised his straddle every time it limped to him, and for a very large sizing. He would straddle for $4 and then make it $30-$50 when it limped to him, and was taking it down way more often than he should be allowed to. Of course the one time I do it, he checks it through. I end up losing a smallish pot when someone turns trips on me.

Then the next orbit when maniac is in the BB (he raises it as aggessively as his straddle), I get KK again. Surely my slowplay will work this time. Nope, 6 way limped pot, and I take it down with a flop bet. Lame.

Next orbit, I pick up KK for a 3rd time. No more BS. $15 over 2 limpers, and I get 3 calls.

Flop ($60) J84r. Maniac donks $65 into me. I call. heads up to the tun.

Turn ($190) J844r. Checks, and I check it behind.

River($190) J844Q. He leads $95, I snap call, and am good vs QJ. He seemed surprised I didn't jam on him. I think he had another $150 or so behind. I pretty much put him on exactly what he had, but figured there is some chance I run into T9 or something, and for a maniac I think he could find the fold button if he had to. Maybe not with his exact hand, but probably with Qx or Jx.

It's so rare that I limp premiums. I usually only do it when an overly aggressive player is going to target me and I am in a good position to trap them along with some callers. I'm not sure if I was getting too cute here or just got unlucky that I chose to limp the couple times the maniac decided to check his option. At least I booked a win. That makes 3 sessions in a row now.
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