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06-13-2013 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
so... are you saying I should, or shouldn't be worried about guys who "act like pros but aren't good"? I'm confused.

Also I've played very briefly/observed those 5/10 NL games at Rio this year, in my experience there's an average of 7/9 people who think they're the best player at the table and 2/9 players who are lifetime winners. I'm not worried.
Well the hold'em games have gotten way smaller over the years and more reg filled at the WSOP. Playing with a bunch of 20 something pros and wanna be pros is not the best. 5 years ago at the series there would be crazy 25/50 NL games at the WSOP. So encouraging pros to play Omaha and use simple short stack strategies is not the best idea since a 9 handed omaha game with 9 regs and nits is not much fun. Just saying obviously the games are still good at the moment. But not everyone who reads twoplustwo is some sort of poker expert. If your friends with the casual players in the game im sure they read your blog at some point (if they are there everyday so too much info not always a good thing.)

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06-13-2013 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WallyPop2
Well the hold'em games have gotten way smaller over the years and more reg filled at the WSOP.

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Hey WallyPop2, I'm going to respond to your post... but don't feel like saying the same thing over and over. See my previous responses to any of these posts you've made in my thread:

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But eventually the market will be over saturated with "pros". At the point there is 7 pros in a PLO game it's not much fun.

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NL games at the series have gotten way more pro infested worse over the years. PLO will probably go the same route.

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There are already like 5 - 6 - 7 "pros" at every NL 5/10 + game is Vegas during the series.

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06-13-2013 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by YakyuSenshu
Aesah,

Just read the thread in entirety, inspiring stuff man. I'm living my dream playing baseball professionally in japan but poker has always been a second love. Just get to play recreationally in my off seasons. It's been a great read and I wish you the best. Hope you keep this thread up.

Are there any YouTube videos of latb where you are playing or commentating, I'd love to check it out?
Do you think baseball games have gotten tougher ever since great pitchers have taught everyone how to throw curveballs/etc? jk

They're on pokernetcast.com, most recent two episodes are free, rest require subscription. But yea the one I commentated on isn't up yet, sometimes it's delayed a couple days. I keep checking so if someone could post in here when it's up I'd appreciate that, haha (I will as well if I find it first).

Thanks for the comments everyone!
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06-13-2013 , 05:55 PM
Just moved from Ipanema Tower to Masquerade Tower in Rio. Wifi is like 100x better over here... if I'm going to pay ~$200 for 2 weeks of internet it better be good. Slow internet probably tilts me more than anything lol
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06-13-2013 , 06:10 PM
Had a guy in our $1/2/5 PLO game last night who after his 5th buy in said he'd read a book on short stacking PLO. After his 8th min-buy in everyone at the table was laughing at him (and he was laughing at himself but adamant his strategy was going to work).

In theory it sounds good but what ends up happening in our game is everyone who calls the $100 preflop just checks postflop unless they have the nuts - and if they have the nuts the shortstacker isn't going to win.

By the time I had left he was on his 12th $100 buy-in and was finally up to $350...lol.
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06-13-2013 , 06:22 PM
some odd mid-start version of your LATB is up...

seems to be a 'live' rebroadcast (pausing doesn't work)

Last edited by StGilmore; 06-13-2013 at 06:29 PM.
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06-13-2013 , 06:36 PM
Well, if the shortstack guy is doing it right (which there's probably like a 95% chance he wasn't), then he's still getting his money in good. For example players like myself will raise a hand like AK87ss (suited to the ace of course) in order to build pots vs. the deep fish, and then a shortstack jams on me I'm like fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

I think they're re-airing the LATB episode so they can archive it. should be up soon.
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06-13-2013 , 07:20 PM
Maybe they are editing you out.
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06-13-2013 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Do you think baseball games have gotten tougher ever since great pitchers have taught everyone how to throw curveballs/etc? jk

They're on pokernetcast.com, most recent two episodes are free, rest require subscription. But yea the one I commentated on isn't up yet, sometimes it's delayed a couple days. I keep checking so if someone could post in here when it's up I'd appreciate that, haha (I will as well if I find it first).

Thanks for the comments everyone!
I just think baseball is tough! I fail at my job 7 out of 10 times by batting .300 and that gets me paid! Just mentally tough I guess. You wouldn't feel very good have 7 out of 10 losing sessions!

I'll check out the pokernet cast.com for sure.

I had a question that maybe someone in this thread could answer, what online sites do you recommend for us players and why, I can't play live in Japan, and was looking to get back online, haven't been on since Black Friday. Thanks

And good luck!
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06-13-2013 , 08:56 PM
LATB archived is up
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06-13-2013 , 10:42 PM
So just had a 2 hour coaching session at the rio with don and couldn't be happier with how things went. I was always so skeptical transitioning into PLO, but talking to don definitely helped me understand the differences and misconceptions I had about the game. I would 100% recommend anyone to get coaching from him.
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06-13-2013 , 11:40 PM
how much was his coaching again?
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06-13-2013 , 11:50 PM
Pretty sure there is a 2+2 rate.
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06-13-2013 , 11:56 PM
@YakyuSenshu: no idea about online poker

@StGilmore: thanks! Tuesday's LATB requires an account but it's free, can be found here: http://www.pokernetcast.com/poker-vi...l-and-don.html

@phokingb: tyty

@1aday: $50/hr guaranteed until the end of June, may change after.
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06-14-2013 , 12:02 AM
Just met the legendary LotGrinder. Very cool smart guy. Watching my own LATB re-run right now, then catching How I Met Your Mother in an hour, then probably hitting the 5-5 PLO at Rio after.
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06-14-2013 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
@YakyuSenshu: no idea about online poker

@StGilmore: thanks! Tuesday's LATB requires an account but it's free, can be found here: http://www.pokernetcast.com/poker-vi...l-and-don.html

@phokingb: tyty

@1aday: $50/hr guaranteed until the end of June, may change after.
Any PLO noobs should jump at that price.

Hopefully this will also keep some of the stuff he knows out of this thread and more secret.
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06-14-2013 , 02:16 AM
Met this PLO Jedi today...

Looking forward to getting stupid at rio or ballys pool with him tomorrow for a bit.

Also, $50 a hour is dirt cheap for advice.
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06-14-2013 , 06:55 AM
Dropped $679 in 2 hours today. Spewy lady leads, tight pro flats, I ship on QJ7ss with QJT3 (should have folded pre but I wasn't playing my A game), lady insta-ships for less, pro tanks and calls with 77xx.

Been opening up my game for picking multiway bluffspots, 4 ways to the flop, K96r. Two checks, PFR checks, I check. Turn 9, two checks, PFR bets 1/2 pot, I make a small raise, everyone folds. Seems like a spot where he's weighted towards AAxx and the other guys are weighted towards nothing having checked twice.
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06-14-2013 , 07:26 AM
just wanted to say to start off that i have really enjoyed reading your posts. ive been down swonging hard lately and after reading for the last week or so it has been like therapy for me to read this, its made me reflect on myself and also made me remember what i want out of life. might sound crazy to some that another guys posts on 2+2 can do all tht but it has and for tht i thank you. was geeked to hear tht you have been doing coaching and was just wandering some of the details of what are you offering as a coach. i know you are mostly a live player so was wandering how it would go down.
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06-14-2013 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Dropped $679 in 2 hours today. Spewy lady leads, tight pro flats, I ship on QJ7ss with QJT3 (should have folded pre but I wasn't playing my A game), lady insta-ships for less, pro tanks and calls with 77xx.

Been opening up my game for picking multiway bluffspots, 4 ways to the flop, K96r. Two checks, PFR checks, I check. Turn 9, two checks, PFR bets 1/2 pot, I make a small raise, everyone folds. Seems like a spot where he's weighted towards AAxx and the other guys are weighted towards nothing having checked twice.
Hand 1: How many behind, how deep?

I would sometimes call, sometimes fold, sometimes raise on the flop. with 2 players behind and SPR>5 I don't think raising has value, I'd call. SPR >5 and 3+ players behind I probably fold. With SPR >3 and 1 or less players behind, raising is fine. Although, when we raise, were not pushing much of an edge:

board: JsQc7s
Hand Equity Wins Ties
JdQdTh3h 50.75% 283,624 41,794
AA, Q7, QJ, KTJ, KTQ, KT7, Qs*s, KKT, QQ, JJ, 77, AKT, KT9, T98, As*s, Ks*s, Ts9s 49.25% 274,582 41,794

Pushing 0-5% edge depending how loose you put her GII range.. If we run into a big hand 10% of the time behind us, its a -EV raise.

Hand 2:

I like.
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06-14-2013 , 04:38 PM
Hand 1 is a limped pot, $25 straddle, big multiway. I limped the QJT3ds from CO but yea this hand is a fold pre IMO in these games of games.

Like 6 players, I'm 2nd last to act. Her range is pretty wide she's been rando-shipping a lot of flops and rebought several times. I think she had QT96 no spades didn't get a good look.

Yea it's a close spot. This is why you fold these hands pre, if I have a "real" hand with QJxx then I would either have a set or a straight draw like 90% of the time.
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06-14-2013 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by greatstate608
just wanted to say to start off that i have really enjoyed reading your posts. ive been down swonging hard lately and after reading for the last week or so it has been like therapy for me to read this, its made me reflect on myself and also made me remember what i want out of life. might sound crazy to some that another guys posts on 2+2 can do all tht but it has and for tht i thank you. was geeked to hear tht you have been doing coaching and was just wandering some of the details of what are you offering as a coach. i know you are mostly a live player so was wandering how it would go down.
Thanks for the comments!

As far as coaching goes I made a SECRET (you're welcome kb12345 ) list of key concepts to beating live poker (NLHE or PLO only) as well as life advice for aspiring poker professionals. But really we just talk and you can just ask me questions/bring me HH's, etc.
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06-14-2013 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Hand 1 is a limped pot, $25 straddle, big multiway. I limped the QJT3ds from CO but yea this hand is a fold pre IMO in these games of games.

Like 6 players, I'm 2nd last to act. Her range is pretty wide she's been rando-shipping a lot of flops and rebought several times. I think she had QT96 no spades didn't get a good look.

Yea it's a close spot. This is why you fold these hands pre, if I have a "real" hand with QJxx then I would either have a set or a straight draw like 90% of the time.
If you fold that from the co in a limped pot the your vpip is going to be less than 15%.
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06-14-2013 , 05:39 PM
^ disagree. You and your online ranges calculated based on how the hand fares vs. a top x% distribution headsup I'd limp A227ss suited to the ace for example.
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06-14-2013 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Thanks for the comments!

As far as coaching goes I made a SECRET (you're welcome kb12345 ) list of key concepts to beating live poker (NLHE or PLO only) as well as life advice for aspiring poker professionals. But really we just talk and you can just ask me questions/bring me HH's, etc.
Just a quick note + micro-brag:

I was set to get coaching with Don on Wednesday - I got called into work and had to just wave 'so long!' as he drove on through to L.V. I'd told him I'd play after work anyway, just to have more fodder for future coaching.

I played $1/3 nlhe and pretended he was there sweating as I kept recalling tips from this thread. Cashed out +$335 after a 4 hour session. One of the best tips was allowing myself to sit at a table of strangers with a short stack to start : $200 This was very key to getting the lay of the land - got the info in the first hour, topped up and dug in. Next time I might sit with $150 - less risk while learning the players - and then do a power-up like in a video game LOL.

Thanks Don! (I've got a couple of spots from the night and will collect a few more to discuss)

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