H2: I was thinking more about this spot, and it's a very interesting SPR inflection point. If we were deeper I'd like a fold as none of my outs are nutted + I wouldn't get paid, and if we had nothing behind it's also a fold too as I don't have enough equity. However very low river SPR in practice I'm expecting to get paid if I hit enough to balance out the reverse implied. I think calling is very slightly better but really the flop play is fk'd.

H7: "enough blockers" is one apparently XD

Ooooh this is very fascinating. The thought that he was valuebetting didn't even occur to me, especially since he has Q6 in his hand it made it look more like a full house blocker bluff. I reviewed the spot for HU and this is a valuebet, but I'm still quite skeptical that it would be once flop/turn bets are both called 3 ways.

But regardless of what theory ends up saying about this spot (which hopefully** I'll have access to tools to be able to confirm that in a few years ), I very strongly believe that this bet would fold out better more often than it would get called by worse in Ignition's PLO500 pool. Personally, if I had some AA that made it to the river (say AAT9) I would almost certainly fold.

Thanks for the comments!

**or, hopefully not

It's been a long time since I misread my hand (that I know of, of course), damn. Didn't even realize until reviewing a couple days later, frustrating

Ignition - $2 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 115.79 BB
BB: 67.27 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 3 A 4

Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 2 8 K
BB checks, Hero bets 2.85 BB, BB raises to 11.4 BB, Hero calls 8.55 BB

Turn: (28.8 BB, 2 players) 4
BB bets 28.3 BB, Hero calls 28.3 BB

River: (85.4 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 24.57 BB and is all-in, fold

no 4 color deck?

I'll never forget the hand review session I did with Polk - he was shocked I didn't have 4 color deck turned on. I said I never really thought about it and it didn't bother me. In the most matter of fact way he says, "yeah, that's definitely a leak"

Idk why but it's still funny to me. At least he fixed one thing in my game

definitely 4 colour deck and bbs as opposed to $$$

I have 4 color deck, for some reason in game I was thinking I had a low draw on the turn, didn't realize there was already a low on the board and folded the ****ing nut low + AA to an under 1/3 pot river jam lmao

but yea if it makes it even 1% easier to identify cards quickly then it's worth it

It took me a while to figure out how that was a misread until I realized you were playing hi/lo. For some reason I had thought every PLO hand you have been posting was hi only. Whoops. I'd say that's an even bigger misread. Although it's not as bad as the times I've heard of Omaha players being new to a table and being wrong about which variant they are playing.

And one thing I like about Pokerstars is the text readout on the screen of your actual hand. Even playing NLHE I still try to check it in combo draw situations. Once my brain focuses on something, I miss other stuff. A couple sessions ago I had T8s on a TTx flop and triple barreled only to get called by KT. This one had a happier ending because I realized as the pot shipped my way I had gone runner runner flush but completely ignored the suits of the turn/river and was just barreling off with with trips. Having my brain subconsciously filter out information that it doesn't find relevant is both a blessing and a curse. I find most of the time it lets me get to the right answer very quickly, but there are some occasions where I end up looking like a moron for missing something very obvious that I didn't notice.

completely missed that it was hi/lo too and figured you must have thought you had a fd ott lol

Lol long long time ago at foxwoods I saw 1/2 plo on the board with open seats and asked which table. They point me over and I sit. After a good 25-30 min there's finally a pot that goes to showdown with an eligible high and low and I get so confused as I see them chopping up the pot. Quickly realizing I was playing 1/2 plo8 and not plo high. Oops! Easy mistake to make in live mix games too when so many diff games have the same number of cards and game change isn't always announced well.

I think I have to be up a lot of money in live PLO where people muck the best hand, and I know of one time I did it for ~$1000

Also lol Tyman that happened to me once, I posted about it briefly

Thanks for the comments

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Stole this pot from an opponent who timed out

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 211.1 BB
SB: 616.75 BB
BB: 120.6 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q T 8

CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 5 7 2
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 3
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 8
CO checks, Hero bets 1 BB, fold

Nice spot where a weaker player got punished for sizing choices. I don't believe he halfpots QT on the turn and goes full pot on the river with anything other than QT. If turn/river sizings were switched around I'd be inclined to fold river

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 151.97 BB
Hero (BTN): 194.78 BB
SB: 626.72 BB
BB: 91.53 BB
UTG: 131.74 BB
MP: 101 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 4 T J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) J 6 K
BB bets 3.56 BB, Hero calls 3.56 BB

Turn: (14.63 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 6.95 BB, Hero calls 6.95 BB

River: (28.53 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 27.73 BB, Hero calls 27.73 BB

idk

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97.88 BB
Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 197 BB
UTG: 213.22 BB
CO: 31.46 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K 6 9

fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 11.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 8 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 2 players) 2 7 3
Hero bets 23.4 BB, BTN calls 23.4 BB

Turn: (70.8 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN bets 62.98 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 62.98 BB

River: (196.75 BB, 2 players) Q

ty mr UTG player

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 94.1 BB
Hero (SB): 89 BB
BB: 359.23 BB
UTG: 285.75 BB
CO: 122.1 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 K A K

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, UTG calls 11.5 BB, BTN calls 11.5 BB

Flop: (46 BB, 3 players) 7 9 4
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: (46 BB, 3 players) J
Hero checks, UTG bets 22.7 BB, BTN calls 22.7 BB, Hero raises to 74 BB and is all-in, fold, BTN calls 51.3 BB

River: (216.7 BB, 2 players) Q

nice

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 172.44 BB
SB: 24 BB
BB: 421.95 BB
UTG: 283.13 BB
CO: 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 7 8 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 8 A 3
BB checks, Hero bets 3.56 BB, BB calls 3.56 BB

Turn: (14.63 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets 12.11 BB, BB raises to 50.37 BB, Hero raises to 165.38 BB and is all-in, BB calls 115.01 BB

River: (345.39 BB, 2 players) 8



not so nice

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 133.06 BB
UTG: 71.27 BB
Hero (CO): 102.95 BB
BTN: 97 BB
SB: 99 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 T 8 A

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 3 players) J 2 6
BB bets 10.45 BB, Hero calls 10.45 BB, fold

Turn: (31.9 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 20.65 BB, BB raises to 93.25 BB, Hero calls 68.35 BB and is all-in

River: (209.9 BB, 2 players) 5

Nice thread,do you plan start streaming on twitch ? i would watch for sure.

By the way,what do you think is the best way to study PLO nowadays ? Solver,coach or something like RIO videos is enough for a PLO25 player ?

It's kinda funny because i was taught this in like, elementary school

But being taught and learning is different, it took me many, many years to learn this: everyone studies differently. You gotta find what works for you. For me, watching twitch streams of other PLO players is really good since I am good at noticing every decision they make that I would be making different, like a simple preflop fold, then I can go and check and see who was correct (it's often the streamer :P).

Personally think PLO visions streak mode is great, it makes studying more like a game and even if it is very slightly less efficient, I could do it for more hours than I would study normally because it was fun.

One guy 17/17, other guy 17/10 after 50 hands. Good spot if they both have aces but uhh RIP

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 86.94 BB
SB: 136.62 BB
BB: 403.01 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
CO: 518.77 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 7 9 T

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, CO raises to 12 BB, fold, SB raises to 40.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 37 BB, CO calls 28.5 BB

Flop: (122.5 BB, 3 players) Q J 5
SB bets 38 BB, Hero raises to 59.5 BB and is all-in, CO raises to 338.4 BB, SB calls 58.12 BB and is all-in

Turn: (374.24 BB, 3 players) J

River: (374.24 BB, 3 players) 5

terrible hand, but feels like player pool tends to fold everything worse than exactly 65 here

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 204.55 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 127.87 BB
CO: 289.75 BB
BTN: 145.35 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T J Q

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, UTG calls 5 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 2 players) 2 K 9
Hero bets 7.2 BB, UTG calls 7.2 BB

Turn: (29.4 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, UTG bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, UTG bets 28.4 BB, Hero raises to 134 BB, fold

Do you have any twitch streamers you recommend?

inky_poker, suhepx, purplepils99, JNandezPoker, I haven't looked that recently so not sure if any of them are still active. Streaming poker is kinda rough because you must use delay and unlike streaming any other game, it typically will cost the streamer money instead of being additional income

This is kind of the nut worst hand to bluff lol. I'm sure you are aware tho.

I think weaker players fold a ton here I agree

idk about just weaker players, I'd be inclined to bet/fold all my sets here in villain's spot which vastly outnumber straights, also because I think river raises are underbluffed

i dislike how this hand was played

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 168.08 BB
SB: 143.29 BB
Hero (BB): 114.53 BB
UTG: 87.48 BB
CO: 98.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 2 A J

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 3 4 7
SB checks, Hero bets 5.7 BB, SB calls 5.7 BB

Turn: (29.4 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 14.4 BB, SB calls 14.4 BB

River: (58.2 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 43.2 BB, SB calls 43.2 BB

I didn't play this hand (can't remember if I've shared it even), but I love this

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/5f...c1d20001ceb8e7

Oh my god that is amazing