Please take this to another forum..your going to ruin a great thread

I will happily delete the post or have a mod delete it if he would like.

Leave it

I didnt play back then so I have no idea. I was simply stating an argument that has been made many times in the other direction.

It's not a topic I personally have a lot of experience with.

congrats on the condo! surprised you went with one not close to casinos you normally play at.

Wp

KK hand seems standard up to river which seems way too thin barring some specific station read

Yea like I said even buying wasn't really my first choice to begin with, but what's done is done!

Thanks for the comments everyone!

Hey man. Did I read you right? You bought a condo and you are.moving out of it. In 6 months?

Moving in. It's still being built

Up $944 in 5 hours of PLO.

Hand against Tuchman:

Mandatory straddle in CO, Hero raises to $30 on BTN with KQQ9, villian calls from MP.

Flop JT5, pot $75
Check, I bet $60, villain calls.

Turn 7, pot $195
Villain leads $120, I call.

River 8, pot $415
Villain leads $340...

so weird..Really depends on history/dynamics between both of you. I find decent thinking players won't take such a strange/fishy line vs a good player as a bluff, so I imagine he has diamonds most of the time.

Would still call though.

lol yea it was weird. lots of live tell leveling going on too. I ended up folding, Tuchman claimed a bluff.

Played an hour of PLO and lost $1600, then played 4 more hours of 5/5 NLHE and was up $1200. So total down $400 in 5 hours.

Had an interesting situation where I was 3 handed at 5/5 NLHE with a huge spot (raise when facing bet percent of like 40%), but we were a must move to another game. I decided I had to accelerate action and artificially upped the stakes by raising to $50 every hand... then had this one.

Hero raises to $50 on BTN with J8, SB calls, spot in BB calls. Effective stacks $1000.

Flop T85, pot $150
Bingo. Basically never folding no matter what now. Checks to hero who bets $115, BB calls.

Turn T, pot $380
Villain checks, I bet $215, villain calls.

River 3, pot $810
Great runout for me, villain bets $375, I call, MHIG.

That last hand gave me a rock hard poker boner.

I think it's a good fold vs. tuchman.

Such a weird line, I doubt he's capable of bluffing often enough to make this a call.

He probably c/c or c/f 89

This is a call. Espec w Qd blocker. If his hand was strong enough to xc flop and picked up diamonds isn't likely going to risk getting raised with a draw.
Not only that a medium flush is likely going to take a xc line on river.

I think he has plenty of Kd and Ad in his range. Straight draws / wraps that pick up equity on turn with NFD or 2ndNFD

Congrats on the Condo. That's pretty huge. You'll need a place to leave the lambo while travelling.

To become a big winner at live 2/5 and 5/5 PLO fastest would you concentrate on: Playing micros online (american sites) or playing 1-2 PLO live?

Since you are moving to San Diego you might check out Palomar. Might be closer to your condo : http://www.palomarcardclub.net

He's played the PLO there before I believe.
I'm guessing he's towards north county.

I don't know about online at all. Sorry

I think 1/2 will be best. You can earn 20ish/hr learning playing really ABC nitty. Online will give you a "better" education fundamentally, but will come at a cost of ~$15/hr.

I think that online will help you become familiar with certain spots/dynamics with thinking players.. but it isn't as useful live because most pots are 4-5 ways.

Fk i had a set HU vs. a guy then he just left because he won the raffle thing

I haven't played online PLO in 5 years or so, but I would say the experience of playing 100-200bb 6max PLO online was detrimental early on when playing 150bb-1000bb FR PLO live. There's nothing quite like 3bet potting PF after a raise and 5 callers, only to go 7 ways to the flop, to wake you up to the reality that the games aren't similar at all.

I'd say you're much better off just learning the dynamics of your local game by getting your feet wet there.

As someone who beat PLO25 and PLO50 on the Merge network over a decent sample size (turned $25 into over $1,000, then cashed out), I can vouch for playing online PLO to get your fundamentals down.

The reason why it would be more productive than playing live $1/2 PLO is that you A.) don't have to risk very much (a buy-in at $1/2 is enough to be a bankroll online), and B.) You will gain experience at an exponentially faster pace (more hands)

I know that live PLO is very different, especially since most online PLO is 6-max. But there are certain spots that you want to get used to that exist in all forms of PLO.

For example, by playing more hands online, you'll get comfortable folding big hands. This is one of the biggest adjustments for NLHE players. If you start playing live PLO without much experience, you won't have that instinct to folding the 2nd nuts when you need to.

The main adjustment you'll have to make when you come back to live PLO is that people limp A LOT in live, and generally play passively.

Biggest asset in online micros is the ability to see hand equities immediately. Plus you'll be able to see how swingy the game. A combo of both is probably the correct answer.