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02-17-2014 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
2 hour session at Bike, game was really nitty so left. Up $25 in 2 hours.

A really questionable hand, would appreciate comments on this one. It'll be awhile before I get comfortable with NLHE again (or maybe not if I just start playing PLO again lol). Villain is like a 50 year old asian guy but from what I have seen, plays well- like what I would expect from a young grinder. Hero opens to $20 from UTG+1 with KK, 3 callers.

Flop 774, pot $80
V checks, I bet $60, fold, fold, V calls.

Turn 8, pot $200
V checks, I bet $140, V makes it $300 with $500 behind, I call.

River Q, pot $800
V checks, hero thinks for a long time checks. MHIG. After I cashed out, I came back and asked and he said he had JJ.
What blinds/buy-in? Are you a limit player?
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02-17-2014 , 07:16 PM
It's a fairly cautious check. Sometimes we are beat and villains check river when the backdoor flush comes in.

That said the cLubs missed so we can rep a busted flush draw with a $200 bet fold on the river. If we expect to be good more than %50 of the time we should bet as long as villain is not the type to jam on us. I am betting river 2-300 because we have a pretty good hand.
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02-17-2014 , 07:16 PM
20/60/140/160 limit hold'em. it's an unusual structure where preflop is 20, flop is 60, turn bet is 140 unless it's a raise then it's 160.

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02-17-2014 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
2 hour session at Bike, game was really nitty so left. Up $25 in 2 hours.

A really questionable hand, would appreciate comments on this one. It'll be awhile before I get comfortable with NLHE again (or maybe not if I just start playing PLO again lol). Villain is like a 50 year old asian guy but from what I have seen, plays well- like what I would expect from a young grinder. Hero opens to $20 from UTG+1 with KK, 3 callers.

Flop 774, pot $80
V checks, I bet $60, fold, fold, V calls.

Turn 8, pot $200
V checks, I bet $140, V makes it $300 with $500 behind, I call.

River Q, pot $800
V checks, hero thinks for a long time checks. MHIG. After I cashed out, I came back and asked and he said he had JJ.
Effective stacks? I think there's thin value to be had here. I don't see how this guy ever has better when he checks the river, he should value bet 88 44 and 7x.
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02-17-2014 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
20/60/140/160 limit hold'em. it's an unusual structure where preflop is 20, flop is 60, turn bet is 140 unless it's a raise then it's 160.

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I legit loled
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02-17-2014 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
20/60/140/160 limit hold'em. it's an unusual structure where preflop is 20, flop is 60, turn bet is 140 unless it's a raise then it's 160.

(5-5)
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02-18-2014 , 04:57 AM
Yea I think river is a bet. Whoops.

Played 2 hours of 5-5-10 PLO, down $2100. Standard spots... made a questionable preflop raise/fold with AKQ2ss. Nice to see the Bike PLO crew again at any rate.

Played 2 hours of 3-5 NLHE after and was up $84 (wtf is up with these tiny sessions).
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02-18-2014 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
2 hour session at Bike, game was really nitty so left. Up $25 in 2 hours.

A really questionable hand, would appreciate comments on this one. It'll be awhile before I get comfortable with NLHE again (or maybe not if I just start playing PLO again lol). Villain is like a 50 year old asian guy but from what I have seen, plays well- like what I would expect from a young grinder. Hero opens to $20 from UTG+1 with KK, 3 callers.

Flop 774, pot $80
V checks, I bet $60, fold, fold, V calls.

Turn 8, pot $200
V checks, I bet $140, V makes it $300 with $500 behind, I call.

River Q, pot $800
V checks, hero thinks for a long time checks. MHIG. After I cashed out, I came back and asked and he said he had JJ.
If he plays anything like a good young guy there's no way it's a bet. Conditions that have to be met in order to be called by worse:

- You have to cbet 4 way with something weakish
- He has to call flop and x/r turn with a hand with showdown value that's 99-JJ or Qxcc
- And decide that you've floated the turn and call the river with it

Even though all of these things could happen, the probability of all of those things happening does not outweigh the times where he just has you beat (or x/f)
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02-18-2014 , 05:54 AM
I think if you bet the river any amount (super small to all in) with almost no intention to ever fold to a shove, unless suddenly, there's a huge indicator of strength, it is going to extract more value than just checking.

Even if he folds, the "grief" factor might lead him to play poorly against you in the future. Instead, he just feels "whatever" about the hand.
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02-18-2014 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rubenrtv
If he plays anything like a good young guy there's no way it's a bet. Conditions that have to be met in order to be called by worse:

- You have to cbet 4 way with something weakish
- He has to call flop and x/r turn with a hand with showdown value that's 99-JJ or Qxcc
- And decide that you've floated the turn and call the river with it

Even though all of these things could happen, the probability of all of those things happening does not outweigh the times where he just has you beat (or x/f)
WTF dude, this is LA $5/5.
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02-18-2014 , 03:02 PM
As with any hand vs. a good player, there are leveling issues, but I suspect that:

-If he has a hand as strong has 7x+ he's going to want to raise more on a double flush possible board for some protection and value before scare cards hit
-Unless he has a boat, in which case he can really only have 44, 87, 88. These hands are possible but discounted due to river check
-The river card is actually great for me since he should never have 2 diamonds ever. Only hand with 2 diamonds that can realistically peel flop OOP is 65dd, which is a straight anyway. Also unlikely due to my image (good player), it might make him think I'm polarized to flush or nothing???

I would be much less inclined to bet river if it was 7s7d4c8hQx.
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02-18-2014 , 04:19 PM
Having never played in LA, and not knowing whatever the **** that implies, I think the kk is well played and river is a check behind.
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02-18-2014 , 04:31 PM
Ok so I read your first post on this thread. You were quitting your job to play poker full time. I don't have time to read all 206 pages of this. What was your bankroll then? What is your bankroll now? How are you living? Thanks!
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02-18-2014 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
WTF dude, this is LA $5/5.
if villain is good, it doesn't matter what game it is

Think the key in the hand is what villain's turn x/r range looks like. The more polarized the less you should be inclined to bet
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02-18-2014 , 09:18 PM
Man wtf is with these 2 digit sessions. 4 hours +$90 at 5/5 at the Bike.
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02-18-2014 , 09:31 PM
It's better than negative four digits. At least you made it past 2hrs this time
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02-19-2014 , 12:03 AM
Just used a live tell to win a $2100 pot, phew
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02-19-2014 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Just used a live tell to win a $2100 pot, phew
Pray tell
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02-19-2014 , 12:08 AM
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Just used a live tell to win a $2100 pot, phew
Which one was it? Oreos munching?
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02-19-2014 , 12:27 AM
Quick bet on river?
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02-19-2014 , 01:01 AM
Bike PLO?
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02-19-2014 , 05:47 AM
2 hours of 5/5 PLO at Bike, up $522.

The live tell hand was a tip from Zachary Elwood so I suppose I won't give it away for free unless he says it's OK :P I probably would have folded otherwise though lol
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02-19-2014 , 07:00 AM
I read the book. How'd the decision go down? You hero called?

While tanking did you see villain avoid eye contact?
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02-19-2014 , 02:21 PM
it was from limon's latest podcast
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02-19-2014 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
it was from limon's latest podcast
What's the name of the podcast? On iTunes? I follow several poker podcast haven't heard of limon. Thanks!
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