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06-07-2010 , 12:43 PM
Just played HU vs. a reg that has apparantly played all the way up to 10knl. It was really fun, because it's so easy to see how he thinks 400nl regs play.

Example:

iPoker - €4 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: €424.90
Hero (BB): €406.00
BTN: €422.00

SB posts SB €2.00, Hero posts BB €4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €6.00) Hero has J K

BTN raises to €12.00, fold, Hero calls €8.00

Flop: (€26.00, 2 players) 7 6 K
Hero checks, BTN bets €16.00, Hero raises to €38.00, BTN calls €22.00

Turn: (€102.00, 2 players) A
Hero bets €64.00, BTN raises to €144.00, Hero calls €80.00

River: (€390.00, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets €228.00, Hero calls €212.00

Hero shows J K (Flush, Ace High)
BTN shows 5 6 (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
SB wins €0.00
Hero wins €812.00
BTN wins €0.00


He's thinking:

Flop - His range for check/raising that flop will contain a LOT of draws, and probably only KQ/sets in his valuerange. I will usually be ahead, and when I'm behind I'll be able to rep both straights and flushes.

Turn - Most 400nl regs doesn't barrel that turn with Kx, because it's a "scary card". But he will however barrel it 100% if he has a draw. (My thinking when he raises is that he cannot have any aces in his range, except AK, A7 and A6).

River - Bingo, best bluff card ever
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06-07-2010 , 01:04 PM
Good Job so far keep it up
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06-07-2010 , 01:06 PM
I always seem to be able to run $50 into 10k+ in a month then cant move from there for whatever reason. you seem to have the skills to go a lot further tho.
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06-07-2010 , 01:25 PM
im impressed.. Get your learn on in PLO. The higher you go the more ppl will ask you to play plo aswell
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06-07-2010 , 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by britewire
im impressed.. Get your learn on in PLO. The higher you go the more ppl will ask you to play plo aswell
Hmm, maybe. Want to see how high up I can get in NL first tho.
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06-07-2010 , 01:44 PM
just dropping in to say good luck, hope you pull it off
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06-07-2010 , 02:03 PM
good luck dude, very interesting thread so far
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06-07-2010 , 02:23 PM
posting on thread to make it easier to track
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06-07-2010 , 03:41 PM
Ridicilous. They were seriously consectuive hands:

iPoker - £2 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): £208.30
BB: £200.00
UTG: £32.45
CO: £199.50
BTN: £433.50

Hero posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, BTN raises to £7.00, Hero raises to £21.00, fold, BTN calls £14.00

Flop: (£44.00, 2 players) 2 4 5
Hero bets £28.00, BTN raises to £68.00, Hero raises to £187.30, BTN calls £119.30

Turn: (£418.60, 2 players) 8

River: (£418.60, 2 players) Q

Hero shows A 9 (High Card, Ace)
BTN shows 6 8 (One Pair, Eights)
Hero wins £0.00
BB wins £0.00
UTG wins £0.00
CO wins £0.00
BTN wins £415.60
oxygen14 wins £0.00





iPoker - €2 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: €221.75
BTN: €174.97
Hero (SB): €200.00
BB: €167.05
UTG: €411.15
MP: €200.00

Hero posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has K A

fold, fold, CO raises to €6.00, fold, Hero raises to €20.00, fold, CO raises to €50.00, Hero raises to €200.00, CO calls €150.00

Flop: (€402.00, 2 players) T T 4

Turn: (€402.00, 2 players) A

River: (€402.00, 2 players) 8

CO shows A K (Flush, Ace High)
Hero shows K A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
CO wins €399.00
BTN wins €0.00
Hero wins €0.00
BB wins €0.00
UTG wins €0.00
MP wins €0.00





iPoker - $2 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $194.00
Hero (BB): $275.40

Hero posts SB $1.00, SB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has 5 6

Hero raises to $6.00, SB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) A 3 9
SB checks, Hero bets $8.00, SB raises to $20.00, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($52.00, 2 players) 7
SB bets $26.00, Hero calls $26.00

River: ($104.00, 2 players) 6
SB bets $78.00, Hero raises to $223.40, SB calls $64.00

SB shows 3 Q (Flush, Ace High)
Hero shows 5 6 (Flush, Ace High)
SB wins $387.00
Hero wins $0.00




I still think I played really really well, which made me only lose 200$ this session, despite these hands.

Roll is 15.8k now
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06-07-2010 , 07:05 PM
really enjoying reading all this imfromsweeden especially seeing the handhistories. u think you could put in a bit more of your own analysis top help a micro grinder?

gl you should easily pull this off
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06-07-2010 , 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imfromsweden
Hmm, maybe. Want to see how high up I can get in NL first tho.
rumor has it thats what isildur1 said.

inspiring goal
remember the passion
gl
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06-07-2010 , 09:09 PM
I've just started to read the thread.Seems great. A few questions.

1. How many buyins per level before you move up?

2. Are you including rakeback or just money you have won?

3. What games are you playing, 6 max or HU exclusively?

4. Whats your goal every day, eg: a set number of hands or set number of $$.

5. Finally which site are you playing on.

Cheers dude.
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06-07-2010 , 09:43 PM
Is it a good idea to just min raise one raiser when your in SB or BB with a monster?
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06-08-2010 , 12:36 AM
Imfromsweden, just wanted to say that I have been dropping by and lurking in this thread since I've found it and have found it to be really quite interesting and unique.


As someone who has been around 2+2 for 4 yrs or so this thread just really stands out as different. You're thought process, creativeness, and uniqueness is what gives you the ability to think outside the box and do what so many others on this site, kind of dream of yet cannot wrap or open up their minds to.


I am someone who strives to be a professional poker player, yet I do no desire the high-stakes (nosebleed) online cash games that you aspire( are destined) to achieve.


Anyways I am not sure what I want to ask or how to ask it so not sure if you can be of any help, but I am guessing that you can at least elaborate/feel out what I'm looking for.

In the HU example you provided of the reg that you suggest plays up to 10k. Could you try to explain a little more clearly villains thought process, as you obv feel you are inside his head, completely owning his soul, (which I have no reason to believe that you are not.)

Then maybe just for Game Theory sake go just 1 level deeper as it is becoming more likely that you are known as you are becoming a 2+2 celebrity rather quickly. SMILE you're on camera.
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06-08-2010 , 01:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlborder
Imfromsweden, just wanted to say that I have been dropping by and lurking in this thread since I've found it and have found it to be really quite interesting and unique.


As someone who has been around 2+2 for 4 yrs or so this thread just really stands out as different. You're thought process, creativeness, and uniqueness is what gives you the ability to think outside the box and do what so many others on this site, kind of dream of yet cannot wrap or open up their minds to.


I am someone who strives to be a professional poker player, yet I do no desire the high-stakes (nosebleed) online cash games that you aspire( are destined) to achieve.


Anyways I am not sure what I want to ask or how to ask it so not sure if you can be of any help, but I am guessing that you can at least elaborate/feel out what I'm looking for.

In the HU example you provided of the reg that you suggest plays up to 10k. Could you try to explain a little more clearly villains thought process, as you obv feel you are inside his head, completely owning his soul, (which I have no reason to believe that you are not.)

Then maybe just for Game Theory sake go just 1 level deeper as it is becoming more likely that you are known as you are becoming a 2+2 celebrity rather quickly. SMILE you're on camera.



iPoker - €4 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: €424.90
Hero (BB): €406.00
BTN: €422.00

SB posts SB €2.00, Hero posts BB €4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €6.00) Hero has J K

BTN raises to €12.00, fold, Hero calls €8.00


Standard for both.


Flop: (€26.00, 2 players) 7 6 K
Hero checks, BTN bets €16.00, Hero raises to €38.00, BTN calls €22.00


He's thinking: Almost all 400nl regs 3bet with AK pre, and don't check/raise with any Kings really, so his range has extremely much air, compared to the amount of value hands (which is 55/66 and 56s, really). And even if he has a value hand, he'll check if a club comes, and then I can profitably bluff/shove. So I will definitly call with my bottom pair.

I'm thinking: Surely this guy is good enough to realize that my value-check/raising range is very narrow. Therefore, if I check/raise here with KJ he will call me down light. I also want to make the sizing small, so that he thinks I'm just trying to buy the pot cheap.



Turn: (€102.00, 2 players) A
Hero bets €64.00, BTN raises to €144.00, Hero calls €80.00


He's thinking: If he in fact was check/raising with Kx, he wouldn't barrel that turn. It looks like a scary card, and he should be afraid of not getting called by worse if he bets. On the other side, he barrels this card with his air 100% of the time. My hand is too weak to just call though, so I'll put in a small raise.

I'm thinking: If I check, my hand will be face-up as Kx, since he expects me to barrel this ace 100% of the time. I will therefore barrel the ace, and take the consequences.

Obv I just call when he 3bets, as I don't want to fold out his air.



River: (€390.00, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets €228.00, Hero calls €212.00


He's thinking: Great, that's an awsome card to bluff, and he also checks to me. I don't have showdown value, and this bluff only needs to work ~35% of the time.

I'm thinking: If he for some reason actually has an ace, he will definitly bet if I check, so it's not like I lose value from any hands if I check. On the other hand, he can't bluff if I shove, so I do lose value if I bet. Conclusion: I should check, and snap off his river shove.



Hero shows J K (Flush, Ace High)
BTN shows 5 6 (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
SB wins €0.00
Hero wins €812.00
BTN wins €0.00
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06-08-2010 , 01:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hatfield23
Is it a good idea to just min raise one raiser when your in SB or BB with a monster?
no...
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06-08-2010 , 01:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KARNA1983
I've just started to read the thread.Seems great. A few questions.

1. How many buyins per level before you move up?

2. Are you including rakeback or just money you have won?

3. What games are you playing, 6 max or HU exclusively?

4. Whats your goal every day, eg: a set number of hands or set number of $$.

5. Finally which site are you playing on.

Cheers dude.
1. 20-30.

2. I'm including everything.

3. 6max, but I start a lot of tables.

4. No set goals like that, I just want to be as good as I can be.

5. Ipoker.

thanks
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06-08-2010 , 02:05 AM
Excellent! I love to see players with awesome goals, reading your thought process shows that u are VERY smart and analytical, GL and keep on that grind and you will eventually meet your goal. I'm just a 5nl grinder, but threads like this and others in past have inspired me to make my own goals, inspirational stuff like this turned my roll from $38 to $500 plus in just 3 months and only 175k hands (lame volume) now my volume goal is 160k hands per month (not every 3 months) and an even higher winrate, dont think i could reach nosebleeds this year haha.. but current goal is 50NL by end of year, sry i ramble a bit when i'm excited awsome thread so far and hats off to you sir.
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06-08-2010 , 02:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imfromsweden
iPoker - $6 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $600.00
Hero (INVALID POS): $703.00
INVALID POS: $600.00

[...]
How do u feel about being called an invalid POS by the hand converter?

Also, where in Sweden are u?

I'm following the thread. Lycka till!
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06-08-2010 , 02:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Second_chance
Excellent! I love to see players with awesome goals, reading your thought process shows that u are VERY smart and analytical, GL and keep on that grind and you will eventually meet your goal. I'm just a 5nl grinder, but threads like this and others in past have inspired me to make my own goals, inspirational stuff like this turned my roll from $38 to $500 plus in just 3 months and only 175k hands (lame volume) now my volume goal is 160k hands per month (not every 3 months) and an even higher winrate, dont think i could reach nosebleeds this year haha.. but current goal is 50NL by end of year, sry i ramble a bit when i'm excited awsome thread so far and hats off to you sir.
thanks GL to you too
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06-08-2010 , 02:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by isuckcallme
How do u feel about being called an invalid POS by the hand converter?

Also, where in Sweden are u?

I'm following the thread. Lycka till!
Yeah, the PT3 hand converter isn't the best...

I live in Stockholm (capital)

Tack!
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06-08-2010 , 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imfromsweden



iPoker - €4 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: €424.90
Hero (BB): €406.00
BTN: €422.00

SB posts SB €2.00, Hero posts BB €4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €6.00) Hero has J K

BTN raises to €12.00, fold, Hero calls €8.00


Standard for both.


Flop: (€26.00, 2 players) 7 6 K
Hero checks, BTN bets €16.00, Hero raises to €38.00, BTN calls €22.00


He's thinking: Almost all 400nl regs 3bet with AK pre, and don't check/raise with any Kings really, so his range has extremely much air, compared to the amount of value hands (which is 55/66 and 56s, really). And even if he has a value hand, he'll check if a club comes, and then I can profitably bluff/shove. So I will definitly call with my bottom pair.

I'm thinking: Surely this guy is good enough to realize that my value-check/raising range is very narrow. Therefore, if I check/raise here with KJ he will call me down light. I also want to make the sizing small, so that he thinks I'm just trying to buy the pot cheap.



Turn: (€102.00, 2 players) A
Hero bets €64.00, BTN raises to €144.00, Hero calls €80.00


He's thinking: If he in fact was check/raising with Kx, he wouldn't barrel that turn. It looks like a scary card, and he should be afraid of not getting called by worse if he bets. On the other side, he barrels this card with his air 100% of the time. My hand is too weak to just call though, so I'll put in a small raise.

I'm thinking: If I check, my hand will be face-up as Kx, since he expects me to barrel this ace 100% of the time. I will therefore barrel the ace, and take the consequences.

Obv I just call when he 3bets, as I don't want to fold out his air.



River: (€390.00, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets €228.00, Hero calls €212.00


He's thinking: Great, that's an awsome card to bluff, and he also checks to me. I don't have showdown value, and this bluff only needs to work ~35% of the time.

I'm thinking: If he for some reason actually has an ace, he will definitly bet if I check, so it's not like I lose value from any hands if I check. On the other hand, he can't bluff if I shove, so I do lose value if I bet. Conclusion: I should check, and snap off his river shove.



Hero shows J K (Flush, Ace High)
BTN shows 5 6 (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
SB wins €0.00
Hero wins €812.00
BTN wins €0.00
TY So much very nicely done sir. I think maybe I was tired when I read you're original explanation, cuz I seemed to be missing the gist of it, totally get it all now.

Only point of contention that I have whatsoever is the fact that Villain is thinking his hand has no show-down value on river.
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06-08-2010 , 09:30 AM
Well, he can't win aginst a single hand, except the very unlikely 89
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06-08-2010 , 09:32 AM
So, finished up a short session, +500$. Won more actually, but I lost at the euro/pound tables, and won at the $$ tables


Biggest winning hand:

iPoker - $4 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (UTG): $609.40
BTN: $237.07
SB: $400.00
BB: $400.00

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has A K

Hero raises to $12.00, BTN calls $12.00, fold, BB calls $8.00

Flop: ($38.00, 3 players) Q Q 4
BB bets $24.00, Hero raises to $55.00, fold, BB calls $31.00

Turn: ($148.00, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($148.00, 2 players) 9
BB bets $112.00, Hero calls $112.00

Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
BB shows 6 6 (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes)
Hero wins $370.00






Biggest losing hand:


iPoker - $4 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $503.50
SB: $420.00

Hero posts SB $2.00, SB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has J 9

Hero raises to $12.00, SB raises to $40.00, Hero raises to $96.00, SB raises to $420.00, fold

SB wins $192.00




Next biggest winning hand :



iPoker - $4 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $475.20
BB: $144.60
UTG: $220.00
CO: $74.00
Hero (BTN): $436.50

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has A 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to $12.00, SB calls $10.00, fold

Flop: ($28.00, 2 players) 9 4 9
SB checks, Hero bets $17.90, SB raises to $48.00, Hero calls $30.10

Turn: ($124.00, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($124.00, 2 players) J
SB bets $81.00, Hero raises to $376.50, fold

Hero shows A 5 (One Pair, Nines)
Hero wins $283.00


(Very simple, he barrels turn with a FD 100% of the time, and he can't have any boats. So he almost always has air/KQ-kinda hands and few 9x combos. 85% of this range folds to a river shove.)
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06-08-2010 , 11:11 AM
How many tables to do play at once?

Also is it me or anyone else got a feeling this is gonna end up being a mega thread? Any monkey can set goals or rebuy but fromsweden seems to acomplish his goals. I think you'll inspire alot of people, myself included. All the best mate.
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