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07-09-2010 , 03:37 PM
Meh, **** this, I'll openshove all hands
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07-09-2010 , 04:02 PM
Donkaments are seriously FILLED with the most braindead, mindless ******s that has ever walked this earth. There's seriously NO thinking going on at all. I'm not even kidding when I'm saying that it's alot fishier than 2nl, probably in the same class as play money.

How anyone could play these for a living without going mentally ill is beyond me. There's seriously no thinking whatsoever, no stimulation at ALL.

God I hate fkn donkaments. Never again.
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07-09-2010 , 04:32 PM
Sry, that was a bit insensitive. If you're a tournament player who reads this, I'm sure that it's very fullfilling.
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07-09-2010 , 04:39 PM
we are glad it's like that mate :P
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07-09-2010 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
Sry, that was a bit insensitive. If you're a tournament player who reads this, I'm sure that it's very fullfilling.
lol well said
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07-09-2010 , 05:22 PM
just read this whole thing at work. cool thread bro
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07-09-2010 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
Donkaments are seriously FILLED with the most braindead, mindless ******s that has ever walked this earth. There's seriously NO thinking going on at all. I'm not even kidding when I'm saying that it's alot fishier than 2nl, probably in the same class as play money.

How anyone could play these for a living without going mentally ill is beyond me. There's seriously no thinking whatsoever, no stimulation at ALL.

God I hate fkn donkaments. Never again.
Seriously. Every time I decide to dabble in the evil that is tournaments I'm both astounded and frustrated at the sheer ridiculousness of how bad people are. Makes it so much worse how big the variance is too, I could never ever ever play them for a living.
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07-09-2010 , 07:09 PM
Isn't that what you want though, people who play bad?
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07-09-2010 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by maxz
Isn't that what you want though, people who play bad?
Yeah to some level at least. But just sitting at a table where all the people have a combined IQ of less than 100 is just not gonna be very stimulating.
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07-09-2010 , 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imfromsweden
Yeah to some level at least. But just sitting at a table where all the people have a combined IQ of less than 100 is just not gonna be very stimulating.
ntm you can get sucked out on over and over for a verrrrrry long time if you play tournaments exclusively
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07-11-2010 , 11:30 AM
Cool thread, subscribed.

gl
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07-11-2010 , 01:14 PM
Up +700$ today. Roll is 21.2k


Biggest winning hand:

iPoker - £2 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: £228.10
BB: £127.94
UTG: £52.00
MP: £134.53
Hero (CO): £202.68
BTN: £407.65

SB posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to £6.00, Hero calls £6.00, BTN calls £6.00, fold, BB calls £4.00

Flop: (£25.00, 4 players) 5 2 7
BB bets £25.00, MP raises to £128.53, Hero raises to £196.68, fold, BB calls £96.94

Turn: (£404.00, 3 players) Q

River: (£404.00, 3 players) J

BB shows 9 A (High Card, Ace)
MP shows 8 6 (High Card, Queen)
Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
SB wins £0.00
BB wins £0.00
UTG wins £0.00
MP wins £0.00
Hero wins £401.00
BTN wins £0.00




Biggest losing hand:


iPoker - £2 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: £202.00
Hero (SB): £493.15
BB: £112.55

Hero posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has K Q

fold, Hero raises to £6.00, BB raises to £18.00, Hero raises to £493.15, BB calls £94.55

Flop: (£225.10, 2 players) 9 4 5

Turn: (£225.10, 2 players) 2

River: (£225.10, 2 players) 9

Hero shows K Q (One Pair, Nines)
BB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
BTN wins £0.00
oilm4n wins £0.00
Hero wins £0.00
BB wins £223.10




lol hero calls:

iPoker - €2 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): €309.98
BB: €127.13

BB posts SB €1.00, Hero posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has 7 A

BB raises to €6.00, Hero raises to €18.00, BB calls €12.00

Flop: (€36.00, 2 players) 6 T J
Hero bets €24.00, BB calls €24.00

Turn: (€84.00, 2 players) 4
Hero bets €45.00, BB calls €45.00

River: (€174.00, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BB bets €40.13, Hero calls €40.13

Hero shows 7 A (One Pair, Jacks)
BB shows Q 9 (One Pair, Jacks)
UA4empion wins €0.00
Hero wins €253.26
BB wins €0.00




iPoker - £2 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: £200.00
UTG: £200.00
Hero (BTN): £396.00
SB: £216.10

SB posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has K J

UTG raises to £6.00, Hero calls £6.00, fold, fold

Flop: (£15.00, 2 players) 9 K 3
UTG bets £12.00, Hero calls £12.00

Turn: (£39.00, 2 players) 4
UTG bets £26.00, Hero calls £26.00

River: (£91.00, 2 players) 9
UTG bets £62.00, Hero calls £62.00

UTG shows T A (One Pair, Nines)
Hero shows K J (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
BB wins £0.00
UTG wins £0.00
Hero wins £213.00
SB wins £0.00
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07-11-2010 , 01:44 PM
really cool
nl600 close????
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07-11-2010 , 01:53 PM
nice call on the river with your ace high...keep up the good work...good luck
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07-11-2010 , 01:54 PM
On the first hand, is that really a good play considering his pf raise + flop reraise, dont u think its jj+ and sets more then 88-99 and sds?
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07-11-2010 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by urgkorv
On the first hand, is that really a good play considering his pf raise + flop reraise, dont u think its jj+ and sets more then 88-99 and sds?
they were both complete ******s. The raiser was like 65/20, 0% fold to flop bet, and the second guy wasn't much better. So yeah, it's pritty standard
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07-11-2010 , 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolzao
really cool
nl600 close????
Yeah, will probably play 600nl once I get home.
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07-11-2010 , 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imfromsweden
Up +700$ today. Roll is 21.2k


Biggest winning hand:

iPoker - £2 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: £228.10
BB: £127.94
UTG: £52.00
MP: £134.53
Hero (CO): £202.68
BTN: £407.65

SB posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to £6.00, Hero calls £6.00, BTN calls £6.00, fold, BB calls £4.00

Flop: (£25.00, 4 players) 5 2 7
BB bets £25.00, MP raises to £128.53, Hero raises to £196.68, fold, BB calls £96.94

Turn: (£404.00, 3 players) Q

River: (£404.00, 3 players) J

BB shows 9 A (High Card, Ace)
MP shows 8 6 (High Card, Queen)
Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
SB wins £0.00
BB wins £0.00
UTG wins £0.00
MP wins £0.00
Hero wins £401.00
BTN wins £0.00




Biggest losing hand:


iPoker - £2 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: £202.00
Hero (SB): £493.15
BB: £112.55

Hero posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has K Q

fold, Hero raises to £6.00, BB raises to £18.00, Hero raises to £493.15, BB calls £94.55

Flop: (£225.10, 2 players) 9 4 5

Turn: (£225.10, 2 players) 2

River: (£225.10, 2 players) 9

Hero shows K Q (One Pair, Nines)
BB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
BTN wins £0.00
oilm4n wins £0.00
Hero wins £0.00
BB wins £223.10




lol hero calls:

iPoker - €2 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): €309.98
BB: €127.13

BB posts SB €1.00, Hero posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has 7 A

BB raises to €6.00, Hero raises to €18.00, BB calls €12.00

Flop: (€36.00, 2 players) 6 T J
Hero bets €24.00, BB calls €24.00

Turn: (€84.00, 2 players) 4
Hero bets €45.00, BB calls €45.00

River: (€174.00, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BB bets €40.13, Hero calls €40.13

Hero shows 7 A (One Pair, Jacks)
BB shows Q 9 (One Pair, Jacks)
UA4empion wins €0.00
Hero wins €253.26
BB wins €0.00




iPoker - £2 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: £200.00
UTG: £200.00
Hero (BTN): £396.00
SB: £216.10

SB posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has K J

UTG raises to £6.00, Hero calls £6.00, fold, fold

Flop: (£15.00, 2 players) 9 K 3
UTG bets £12.00, Hero calls £12.00

Turn: (£39.00, 2 players) 4
UTG bets £26.00, Hero calls £26.00

River: (£91.00, 2 players) 9
UTG bets £62.00, Hero calls £62.00

UTG shows T A (One Pair, Nines)
Hero shows K J (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
BB wins £0.00
UTG wins £0.00
Hero wins £213.00
SB wins £0.00


quick question bout the KJ hand, do you have a reason for only calling preflop? i would usually find myself 3betting here pre on the button. thanks.
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07-11-2010 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cashgamepoker500
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quick question bout the KJ hand, do you have a reason for only calling preflop? i would usually find myself 3betting here pre on the button. thanks.
3betting KJ OTB is pretty bad imo. Is it for value?

Polarize your range a little and it makes it a lot easier to play IP, 3bet hands like 64s or 57s as well as AQ+, 88+ and flat your marginals like Q10s, KQo, 44, and etc.

Just my 2 cents.

ALso, villians 3rd barrel is terrible. the 9c is probably one of teh worst, if not the worst card to fire a 3rd barrel on.


PS: didnt see it was only 4 handed instead of 6 handed, but basically same thing applies (sorta)
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07-12-2010 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cashgamepoker500
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quick question bout the KJ hand, do you have a reason for only calling preflop? i would usually find myself 3betting here pre on the button. thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamaican66
3betting KJ OTB is pretty bad imo. Is it for value?

Polarize your range a little and it makes it a lot easier to play IP, 3bet hands like 64s or 57s as well as AQ+, 88+ and flat your marginals like Q10s, KQo, 44, and etc.
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Very standard flat with KJ.
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07-12-2010 , 04:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamaican66
3betting KJ OTB is pretty bad imo. Is it for value?

Polarize your range a little and it makes it a lot easier to play IP, 3bet hands like 64s or 57s as well as AQ+, 88+ and flat your marginals like Q10s, KQo, 44, and etc.

Just my 2 cents.

ALso, villians 3rd barrel is terrible. the 9c is probably one of teh worst, if not the worst card to fire a 3rd barrel on.


PS: didnt see it was only 4 handed instead of 6 handed, but basically same thing applies (sorta)
I would absolutely not say it's "terrible". My range is face up as KJ-KQ, and he's repping a lot of strength, raising from UTG and firing 3 barrels, especially on a river that pairs the board and completes the flush. Would definitly work aginst bad players that don't understand that he rarely has a nine or a flush, and rarely plays AK like this.

If I posted the hand in the forums, people would probably advice folding the river.
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07-12-2010 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
I would absolutely not say it's "terrible". My range is face up as KJ-KQ, and he's repping a lot of strength, raising from UTG and firing 3 barrels, especially on a river that pairs the board and completes the flush. Would definitly work aginst bad players that don't understand that he rarely has a nine or a flush, and rarely plays AK like this.

If I posted the hand in the forums, people would probably advice folding the river.

well i mean wtf is he repping? Id say 3 barreling this board for value would be great since your getting called down so much. But i mean he can really only rep AK, KQ, AA by raising UTG and barreling 3 streets.

Your hand is face up after calling 2 streets, either a 9 or a K basically. The Spade flush missed and his value range is sooooooo slim here, so he is getting called by ALL Kx imo. The only thing he folds out are missed spade draws (prob wouldnt of just called down all the way either) or maybe 1010-QQ that didnt 3bet pre.

ALso, if im villian if I have AA i bet river, but with AK or KQ I probably will take a bet bet and chck/call line. Since there are less combos of worse Kx than can call and more combos of missed FDs that can bluff. Basically when you have AK or KQ you extract the most out of missed FDs and lose the least from 9x

Last edited by Chamaican66; 07-12-2010 at 04:22 AM.
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07-12-2010 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden

If I posted the hand in the forums, people would probably advice folding the river.
I dont think anyone with half a brain who is a thinking player would ever advise folding the river.

Only way I can see you folding the river is if you get in a leveling war with yourself/villian. One of those you know that he knows that its a bad board to 3 barrel on so you know that he knows that he will only be betting the river for value, therfore there are 0 bluffs in his range since you know that he knows that you know that he cant have worse than KQ in that spot..... It just gets ridiculous. Haha
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07-12-2010 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Chamaican66
well i mean wtf is he repping? Id say 3 barreling this board for value would be great since your getting called down so much. But i mean he can really only rep AK, KQ, AA by raising UTG and barreling 3 streets.

Your hand is face up after calling 2 streets, either a 9 or a K basically. The Spade flush missed and his value range is sooooooo slim here, so he is getting called by ALL Kx imo. The only thing he folds out are missed spade draws (prob wouldnt of just called down all the way either) or maybe 1010-QQ that didnt 3bet pre.

ALso, if im villian if I have AA i bet river, but with AK or KQ I probably will take a bet bet and chck/call line. Since there are less combos of worse Kx than can call and more combos of missed FDs that can bluff. Basically when you have AK or KQ you extract the most out of missed FDs and lose the least from 9x

Yes, that's what I was thinking, and it's why I eventually called. I'm just saying, his line is repping a lot of strength, and I wouldn't be surprised if lots of people fold the river.
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07-12-2010 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Chamaican66
I dont think anyone with half a brain who is a thinking player would ever advise folding the river.

Only way I can see you folding the river is if you get in a leveling war with yourself/villian. One of those you know that he knows that its a bad board to 3 barrel on so you know that he knows that he will only be betting the river for value, therfore there are 0 bluffs in his range since you know that he knows that you know that he cant have worse than KQ in that spot..... It just gets ridiculous. Haha

Got to agree with this, he's not repping anything here, so id have to level myself to actually fold here.
I guess if your sure he's a good player you could also find a fold here.... but cant believe this guy is nearly that good.

Sometimes its kinda cool in villians position , If you value bet 4X/6X in this spot vrs a good player, just cuz you know he'l call with all his Ax and be like wtf...

Last edited by Wanner5betme; 07-12-2010 at 06:09 AM.
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