actually it wouldnt be too ******ed, when you play like 2 tables of nl1k and replay any hand. you wont have many hands on most of regs, so the hud wont help you that much at the beginning

but i fully understand you. playing without hud feels like playing with a disadvantage to all the other players.

*edit*
especially when these f idiots buy hands at ptr...

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I always heard play around 1KNL + is all feel play. Guess i was misinformed.

This thread is slowly going downhill.. sorry to say..

Okey, I'm sorry I don't live up to your expections on me... lol. It's not like i'm getting paid to entertain u guys, I'm doing this for me, and I do as I want.




Anyways, talked with the computer guy today. He said that he'd prolly have the computer fixed by saturday, so I'll try to put in a monster session then

Installed PT3 on my laptop, so put in a session this morning. It's so much worse than playing on my normal computer though Can't get HUD to function properly and stuff.

Oh well, played like 500 hands, and it was super un-eventful. I ended up like +150$.


Biggest winning hand:


iPoker - $4 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

INVALID POS: $477.84
Hero (BB): $416.80

Hero posts SB $2.00, INVALID POS posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has 9 A

Hero raises to $12.00, INVALID POS calls $8.00

Flop: ($24.00, 2 players) 9 A 2
INVALID POS checks, Hero bets $18.00, INVALID POS raises to $60.00, Hero calls $42.00

Turn: ($144.00, 2 players) 3
INVALID POS bets $109.00, Hero raises to $344.80, fold

Hero wins $361.00






iPoker - €4 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: €416.10
Hero (BTN): €400.00
SB: €699.40
BB: €400.00
UTG: €400.00

SB posts SB €2.00, BB posts BB €4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €6.00) Hero has 3 3

fold, fold, Hero raises to €12.00, SB calls €10.00, fold

Flop: (€28.00, 2 players) K K 4
SB bets €24.00, Hero calls €24.00

Turn: (€76.00, 2 players) K
SB bets €40.00, Hero calls €40.00

River: (€156.00, 2 players) 9
SB bets €80.00, Hero calls €80.00

Hero shows 3 3 (Full House, Kings full of Threes)
SB shows 7 Q (Three of a Kind, Kings)
CO wins €0.00
Hero wins €313.00
SB wins €0.00
BB wins €0.00
UTG wins €0.00






iPoker - $4 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $347.03
Hero (BB): $455.40
UTG: $417.00
BTN: $400.00

SB posts SB $2.00, Hero posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has J J

UTG raises to $8.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $26.00, UTG calls $18.00

Flop: ($54.00, 2 players) 4 3 5
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($54.00, 2 players) K
Hero checks, UTG bets $27.00, Hero calls $27.00

River: ($108.00, 2 players) T
Hero bets $33.00, UTG raises to $98.00, Hero calls $65.00

Hero shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)
UTG shows Q J (High Card, King)
Hero wins $302.00






Biggest losing hand:


iPoker - $6 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $670.00
BB: $534.20
UTG: $646.00
BTN: $616.00

Hero posts SB $3.00, BB posts BB $6.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $9.00) Hero has 9 4

fold, fold, Hero raises to $18.00, BB calls $12.00

Flop: ($36.00, 2 players) 6 A 2
Hero bets $21.00, BB raises to $74.25, Hero calls $53.25

Turn: ($184.50, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($184.50, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $88.00, BB calls $88.00

BB shows A 2 (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
BB wins $358.50






iPoker - €4 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €163.60
Hero (INVALID POS): €400.00
SB: €451.20

Hero posts SB €2.00, SB posts BB €4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €6.00) Hero has 5 5

BTN raises to €16.00, Hero raises to €52.00, fold, BTN raises to €163.60, Hero calls €111.60

Flop: (€331.20, 2 players) 8 9 K

Turn: (€331.20, 2 players) 4

River: (€331.20, 2 players) Q

BTN shows A K (One Pair, Kings)
Hero shows 5 5 (One Pair, Fives)
BTN wins €329.20
Hero wins €0.00
SB wins €0.00
FScottFitzgerald wins €0.00






iPoker - $4 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $358.00
SB: $69.95
Hero (BB): $529.50
UTG: $161.53

SB posts SB $2.00, Hero posts BB $4.00, UTG posts DB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $10.00) Hero has T A

UTG checks, BTN raises to $12.00, SB calls $10.00, Hero calls $8.00, UTG calls $8.00

Flop: ($48.00, 4 players) K 6 T
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $36.00, fold, Hero calls $36.00, UTG calls $36.00

Turn: ($156.00, 3 players) 4
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $100.00, Hero calls $100.00, fold

River: ($356.00, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets $210.00, fold

BTN wins $354.00

can anyone actuallly really float there with 94s oop profitably? i kinda doubt it.
can you elaborate?

with the first hand, why raise the turn? wouldn't flatting keep his air in?

Yeah, well, he was a very passive fish, so I really really didn't think he'd barrel river with air. Better to just get the money in when there are no scare cards and stuff. Really didn't expect him to ever fold.

He's only raising 2pair/sets/bluffs on that flop. I don't think particular will keep firing with his bluffs on the turn. So we can pretty confidently donk river if he checks back turn. Unfortunally, his 2pair got counterfeited on the turn, so he didn't fire, but I expect him to bet turn with his value hands 99% of the time.

Great log. It's a pleasure reading your thought process and progress. Best of luck.

Wow, I dig your thread, and thanks for sharing your insight! Very smart! The most puzzling thing to me about successful players is how they are able to so quickly draw conclusions about their opponents that they can exploit. I often find that I've found what I think is a tendency in a player only to be wrong, then I'm back at sqare one. I'd appreciate if you could answer a few questions about how you read players.

Do you mostly play regs whose styles you are familiar with?

How do you approach playing randoms that you have no info on?

What are you looking for in these randoms to tell you how you need to play them, and how long before you figure out what exploits them?

Thanks for the inspiration and keep it up!

Aight, put in a session on FTP as well, and won +1250$, so im up 1.4k today. I feel I played OK, but not great, unfortunally.


Biggest winning hand:


Full Tilt - $4 Ante $0.75 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $474.65
SB: $710.30
BB: $634.05
UTG: $809.00
Hero (CO): $719.25

BB posts ante $0.75, BTN posts ante $0.75, Hero posts ante $0.75, SB posts ante $0.75, UTG posts ante $0.75, SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $9.75) Hero has 3 3

fold, Hero raises to $12.00, fold, fold, BB raises to $44.00, Hero calls $32.00

Flop: ($93.75, 2 players) T K 3
BB bets $56.00, Hero raises to $124.00, BB raises to $200.00, Hero calls $76.00

Turn: ($493.75, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets $188.00, BB raises to $389.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $201.30

River: ($1272.35, 2 players) T

BB shows K A (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
Hero shows 3 3 (Full House, Threes full of Tens)
Hero wins $634.20
Hero wins $634.15






Full Tilt - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $533.20
SB: $1,702.70
Hero (BB): $464.70
UTG: $412.00
MP: $400.00
CO: $588.00

SB posts SB $2.00, Hero posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $12.00, SB raises to $46.00, Hero raises to $108.00, fold, SB raises to $1,702.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $356.70 and is all-in

Flop: ($941.40, 2 players) 3 5 6

Turn: ($941.40, 2 players) 4

River: ($941.40, 2 players) 6

SB shows A Q (One Pair, Sixes)
Hero shows K A (One Pair, Sixes)
Hero wins $938.40






Full Tilt - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $551.00
SB: $1,008.40
Hero (BB): $412.00
UTG: $416.00
MP: $414.60
CO: $452.00

SB posts SB $2.00, Hero posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has 5 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $12.00, Hero calls $8.00

Flop: ($24.00, 2 players) T T A
SB checks, Hero bets $16.00, SB calls $16.00

Turn: ($56.00, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets $36.00, SB calls $36.00

River: ($128.00, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets $80.00, SB calls $80.00

Hero shows 5 7 (Flush, Ace High)
SB mucks A 4 (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
Hero wins $285.00








Biggest losing hand:



Full Tilt - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $528.60
BTN: $1,547.70
Hero (SB): $674.70
BB: $418.00
UTG: $406.00
MP: $521.00

Hero posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has 9 A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $12.00, Hero raises to $44.00, fold, BTN calls $32.00

Flop: ($92.00, 2 players) K 8 4
Hero bets $52.00, BTN raises to $125.00, Hero calls $73.00

Turn: ($342.00, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($342.00, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets $1,378.70 and is all-in, fold

BTN wins $339.00






Full Tilt - $4 Ante $0.75 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $410.25
BB: $367.00
UTG: $400.00
MP: $1,307.75
CO: $409.75
Hero (BTN): $522.75

BB posts ante $0.75, MP posts ante $0.75, UTG posts ante $0.75, SB posts ante $0.75, Hero posts ante $0.75, CO posts ante $0.75, SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $10.50) Hero has 2 A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $12.00, SB raises to $48.00, fold, Hero calls $36.00

Flop: ($104.50, 2 players) 4 K 7
SB bets $56.00, Hero calls $56.00

Turn: ($216.50, 2 players) 7
SB bets $92.00, fold

SB wins $213.50

1. We're not drawing conclusions, we're just making educated guesses, assumptions, about every player. I'm always trying to figure out how they think about the game.

Instead of figuring out different tendencies they have (like, they tend to bet extra big with bluffs, or something), try to figure out HOW they think. Because trying to figure out tendencies is very hard, and easily countered, but figuring out roughly how someone thinks about the game, is more reliable and harder to counter.

2. I play all regs, but yeah, most of them I've played with before.

3. I start making assumptions about their stacksizes, if they post before hand or not, if they start out by raising their first hand vs limping and stuff like that.

tyty

How many tables do you usually play? How many did you play when you were moving up through micro and small stakes?

Always played like 4.

Oh and got computer back. Unfortunally, it was problems with the harddrive. That means, all programs, and most stuff is gone

However, I told the repair-guy to save as much as possible, so I have at least 170k of the original 250k hands left. But still sucks that I lost 80k hands, as well as a ******** of other super important things as well as all programs

Send hard drive to data recovery place, might be a bit costly but if there's stuff on it that you want they might be able to get it.

thought process on this hand? is the river probe bet or inducing bet or villain just fishy?

Yeah, that's what I did, and it's how I got most of my school documents, as well as most of my DB back, which is the most important thing. But yeah, it was lol expensive

villain was a bit fishy, yes.

Hey imfromsweden ive been lurking for abit and ur thread made me join learn alot, were you always able to accurately guess what people are thinking, or did it come from thousands of hands?

GL btw!

Of course I didn't know how people were thinking when I didn't even know how to think myself Practise makes perfect.

Played 600 hands this morning, and won almost +2k, so that was good. Played overall very good, with the occasional spew hand



Biggest winning hand:





Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $600.00
BTN: $873.00
SB: $600.00
BB: $892.65
UTG: $660.00
Hero (MP): $870.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is MP with 8 8
1 fold, Hero raises to $18, CO calls $18, 3 folds

Flop: ($45.00) 8 Q 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $30, CO raises to $90, Hero raises to $198, CO raises to $582 all in, Hero calls $384

Turn: ($1209.00) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($1209.00) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $1209.00
CO shows K J (a pair of Queens)
Hero shows 8 8 (a full house, Eights full of Queens)
Hero wins $1206.00
(Rake: $3.00)








Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): $603.00
BB: $600.00
UTG: $975.60
CO: $552.00
BTN: $984.60

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is SB with 8 J
3 folds, Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $54, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($108.00) K 8 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $54, Hero raises to $138, BB calls $84

Turn: ($384.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $411 all in, BB calls $408 all in

River: ($1200.00) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $1200.00
Hero shows 8 J (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
BB shows K 5 (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins $1197.00
(Rake: $3.00)






Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: $400.00
SB: $400.00
Hero (BB): $997.10

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with A Q
1 fold, SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $40, SB calls $28

Flop: ($80.00) 9 Q 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $52, SB raises to $360 all in, Hero calls $308

Turn: ($800.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($800.00) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $800.00
SB shows K J (King Queen high)
Hero shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $799.00
(Rake: $1.00)








Biggest losing hand:




Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: $600.00
SB: $610.20
BB: $497.90
Hero (CO): $810.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is CO with 9 T
Hero raises to $18, BTN raises to $54, 2 folds, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($117.00) 4 5 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($117.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $60, BTN calls $60

River: ($237.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $696 all in, BTN calls $486 all in

Final Pot: $1209.00
BTN shows 4 A (a straight, Five high)
Hero shows 9 T (a pair of Threes)
BTN wins $1207.00
(Rake: $2.00)








Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: $219.65
SB: $590.00
BB: $600.00
Hero (CO): $967.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is CO with K K
Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, SB calls $15, 1 fold

Flop: ($42.00) K 3 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($42.00) J (2 players)
SB bets $42, Hero calls $42

River: ($126.00) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $126, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $907 all in, SB requests TIME, SB calls $404 all in

Final Pot: $1186.00
SB shows 7 T (a straight, Jack high)
Hero shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
SB wins $1184.00
(Rake: $2.00)






Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

SB: $211.10
BB: $418.00
Hero (BTN): $400.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with 6 A
Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, BB raises to $42, Hero calls $30

Flop: ($86.00) A 8 6 (2 players)
BB bets $48, Hero raises to $112, BB raises to $376 all in, Hero calls $246 all in

Turn: ($802.00) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($802.00) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $802.00
BB shows K A (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
Hero shows 6 A (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
BB wins $801.00
(Rake: $1.00)









Other fun hands:




Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

SB: $603.00
BB: $645.80
Hero (BTN): $609.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BTN with Q 8
Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, BB calls $12

Flop: ($39.00) 4 6 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($39.00) T (2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero raises to $66, BB raises to $112, Hero calls $46

River: ($263.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $60, Hero raises to $479 all in, BB folds

Final Pot: $383.00
Hero wins $382.00
(Rake: $1.00)







Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BTN): $402.80
SB: $452.70
BB: $128.00
UTG: $829.50
CO: $418.20

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with 8 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: ($28.00) 9 6 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20, SB calls $20

Turn: ($68.00) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($68.00) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $108, SB requests TIME, SB calls $108

Final Pot: $284.00
Hero shows 8 8 (two pair, Nines and Eights)
SB mucks Q A
Hero wins $281.00
(Rake: $3.00)




FTP roll is now 14k, Ipoker 16k, and Neteller 6k, so ~36k total. I will soon start shottaking at 1knl.

make sure you get an external HDD and do backups from time to time