Should have yelled "I AM THE BOSS" instead. vwp, but it's just variance, no one can beat these girls at connect 4 over any meaningful sample.
LOL MAYBE TRUE IN THAILAND, BUT IN KHMERLAND I SEE NO REASON WHY MY WINRATE WONT STAY @ +95%, ONLY ONES I LOSE TO ARE THE 50+Y/O TYPES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN HIT BY A FKNG TRAIN, AND EVEN VS THOSE HOES ITS JUST A LOSS BECAUSE THEY PLAY SOME GOOFY STRAT THAT I NEVER SEE BEFORE
MIGHT AS WELL GIVE SOME POKER UPDATES. I AM HAVING A GREAT YEAR SO FAR, JUST MOTIVATION TO ADD MONEY TO THE PILE IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW.
HERES A COUPLE GRAPHS, FIRST ONE IS FOREIGN CURRENCY, 2ND IS USD SO IGNORE THE INFO TAB $WON, BUT TOTALS FOR THE YEAR +$40K USD. HAVE SOME OTHERS TOO BUT LAZY TO POST THEM ALL
HUNL MOST SUCCESSFUL AND FAVORITE GAME, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY POKER CAREER WHERE I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT A GAME IN BOTH RED AND BLUE LINES. THIS YEAR MY WINRATE IN HUNL IS SOMEWHERE AROUDN 27 - 28BB/100. ALMOST NEVER HAVE TO THINK, FIND MYSELF JUST AUTOPILOT AND PLAYING FROM EXP/INTUITION. BARELY HAVE TO THINK ANYMORE ABOUT ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE WHEN I SEE SD'S AND CAN COUNTER ADJUST SO MUCH FASTER THAN BASICALLY ALL OPPS NOW. JUST SUCHA **** THAT THE SITES DO WATEVER THEY CAN TO KILL HU
LIKE, HU WINNERS ARE SOOOO BAD FOR THE ECO SYSTEM BUT WHO CARES ABOUT POKERSTARS NETTING $500K A DAY IN RAKE FROM THE TABLES. OR LIKE 888 RAKING ABOUT 50BB/100 ON A MICROSTAKES 6MAX TABLE BUT CANNOT EVEN PROTECT ITS PLAYERS FROM SEAT SCRIPTERS, RUSSIAN BOTS AND CHINESE COLLUDER CHEATS.
DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON POKERS SAVIOUR ROB YONG ******, OR WASHED UP OLD GOOFBALL PRO PHIL GANDOLF AND THE WHOLE RIO POKER BREAKEVEN CREW. JFC WAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS.
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BTW I WILL BE IN BANGKOK MARCH 15 TO MARCH 20 IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO OUT...GONNA GO TO SOME GCLUBS, I THINK FLORENCE CLUB PROBABLY. AND ALSO WANT TO HIT UP THE THAI GOGOS AT SAPHAN KWAI, AND I GUESS COWBOY NANA COMBO. SO PM ME IF UR IN TOWN.
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Never knew you played HU on PS. I presume we've played a fair bit? Do you mind sharing your SN via PM?
WE PLAYED SOME SMALL SESSIONS OVER THE YEARS BUT NOTHING HUGE, . THE LAST TIME WE PLAYED I SIT IN THE POOL ALONE, WE PLAYED LIKE 1 OR 2 HANDS, YOU ASKED DO I WANT TO PLAY, I SAID NO THX AND BAILED.
AS FAR AS BOTS/RTA, THEY ARE ON THOSE SITES DEF AND IT SUCKS, AND ITS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE BUT I FEEL NO ANXIETY OR WORRY ABOUT IT, MY HEART FEELS REGRET MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE AS I WISH I HAD PLAYED MORE/HARDER IN 2011 ERA
HI. I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID ABOUT GANDOLF. HE IS THE GOAT. VERY IMPRESSIVE HOW HE RECOVERED IN HIS HU MATCH VS VV
I HAVN'T PLAYED A TON OF HOLDEM SINCE MARCH1, WAS EXTREMELY BORED WITH IT AND A TON OF THE SITES I PLAY ON REMOVED HU OR JUST KICKED ME OFF THE NETWORK SO WAS SUPER DISCOURAGED TO PLAY. I MESSED AROUND PLAYING PLO, I LITERALLY STARTED PLAYING 2CENT/4CENT AND FOR LIKE FIRST 3K HANDS WAS LOSING LIKE 20BUYINS, BUT PLUGGED A BUNCH OF LEAKS AND GOT THE WINRATE UP.
SINCE MARCH 1ST
IM NOW PLAYING A BUNCH MORE 6MAX NLHE NOW BECAUSE I AM KINDA FORCED TO PLAY IT NOW, SO WILL GET BACK TO POSTING MORE REGULAR UPDATES WITH 6MAX NLHE.
HI. I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID ABOUT GANDOLF. HE IS THE GOAT. VERY IMPRESSIVE HOW HE RECOVERED IN HIS HU MATCH VS VV
I HAVN'T PLAYED A TON OF HOLDEM SINCE MARCH1, WAS EXTREMELY BORED WITH IT AND A TON OF THE SITES I PLAY ON REMOVED HU OR JUST KICKED ME OFF THE NETWORK SO WAS SUPER DISCOURAGED TO PLAY. I MESSED AROUND PLAYING PLO, I LITERALLY STARTED PLAYING 2CENT/4CENT AND FOR LIKE FIRST 3K HANDS WAS LOSING LIKE 20BUYINS, BUT PLUGGED A BUNCH OF LEAKS AND GOT THE WINRATE UP.
SINCE MARCH 1ST
IM NOW PLAYING A BUNCH MORE 6MAX NLHE NOW BECAUSE I AM KINDA FORCED TO PLAY IT NOW, SO WILL GET BACK TO POSTING MORE REGULAR UPDATES WITH 6MAX NLHE.
No! Don't give up on Omaha already. 6-card is the future!
No! Don't give up on Omaha already. 6-card is the future!
PLO is always called the game of the future but I don't think winrates are too much higher than they are for NL regs but with infinitely more variance....
PLO is always called the game of the future but I don't think winrates are too much higher than they are for NL regs but with infinitely more variance....
I think it's player dependent and would have to disagree with you, at least in my personal case. I went to Omaha specifically because I wasn't beating holdem anymore and I have a significant winrate in 6-card and I'm about 80k hands in. Fish just want to play Omaha, at least online on the apps. I'll sit down in 4 tables and every single one will have at least 2-3 players playing a VP$IP of 60% or higher, something I just never saw in holdem. You're right about it being called the game of the future forever and about the variance. But I think the latter is precisely the reason why it hasn't caught on in that players don't understand the bankroll requirements of the game and go broke much faster.
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PLO is always called the game of the future but I don't think winrates are too much higher than they are for NL regs but with infinitely more variance....
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I think it's player dependent and would have to disagree with you, at least in my personal case. I went to Omaha specifically because I wasn't beating holdem anymore and I have a significant winrate in 6-card and I'm about 80k hands in. Fish just want to play Omaha, at least online on the apps. I'll sit down in 4 tables and every single one will have at least 2-3 players playing a VP$IP of 60% or higher, something I just never saw in holdem. You're right about it being called the game of the future forever and about the variance. But I think the latter is precisely the reason why it hasn't caught on in that players don't understand the bankroll requirements of the game and go broke much faster.
YEA DEF THINK THAT PLO REGS AT LEAST AT SMALL STAKES AND BELOW ARE BEHIND THE NLHE ONES. PROBLEM IS RAKE AT PLO IS JACKED UP, AND HANDS/HOUR IS LOWER AT PLO...BUT YEA WOULD THINK THAT PLO WINRATES FOR THE CRUSHER REGS ARE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE NLHE ONES.
YEA DEF THINK THAT PLO REGS AT LEAST AT SMALL STAKES AND BELOW ARE BEHIND THE NLHE ONES. PROBLEM IS RAKE AT PLO IS JACKED UP, AND HANDS/HOUR IS LOWER AT PLO...BUT YEA WOULD THINK THAT PLO WINRATES FOR THE CRUSHER REGS ARE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE NLHE ONES.
Maybe they're slightly higher but I haven't seen any graphs backing that up (though everyone just assumes it's true). Be curious to see what mined hands have to say about it.
There's also way more variance in online PLO so a big crusher can be a breakeven reg/have nightmare downswings more often. FWIW my Ignition PLO winrate is lower than my NLHE one and I had thoughts like "omg these games are so much softer than NL" really often. Not really sure why that is but w/e.
I have a few theories: the type of fish who is too loose pre and check folds a ton to your cbet doesn't exist in PLO; rake is a lot higher in bb/100; and the idea that PLO is omg so soft and fun (which is sometimes true, but not always and a reggy PLO game will be tighter than a reggy NL lineup) was made up by regs to attract fish/bad NL regs.
There's also survivorship and sampling bias in that you only hear from people who had success and NL regs who had very bad results playing PLO don't talk about it.
MONTH IS GOING OK POKERWISE. HAVE PLAYED ABOUT 80% OF VOLUME AT 6MAX TABLES NOW, A NICE CHANGE. MOST SESSIONS WERE GREAT EXCEPT FOR 1 WHERE I LOST LIKE 5 BUYINS AT 400NL, GAMES HAVE BEEN QUITE AMAZING TBH.
I WON'T POST THE GRAPHS BUT MADE ALSO 2K ON SITES THAT AREN'T IN USD. AND SO FAR EARN ABOUT 1K IN RAKEBACK, LIFE IS GOOD, HOPEFULLY CAN PUSH ANOTHER 10K MONTH.
ALSO THIS IS MY PLO GRAPH THAT I STARTED PLAYING IT IN APRIL 2020. ITS ALL MICROSTAKES SO LIKE 2C/4C TO .3/.6 USD...EV WINRATE IS @ 20BB/100, WITH ACTUAL WINRATE 26BB/100 AFTER 13K HANDS, I AM PLAYING SOME OF THE MOST LOLSOFT GAMES THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN. FOR THE PLO PLAYERS OUT THERE...HOW SUSTAINABLE IS THIS?
the type of fish who is too loose pre and check folds a ton to your cbet doesn't exist in PLO.
Yes but this is basically where you make your money in PLO. I play 6-card and players fold even less on the flop in that game and them calling off nearly every time to see at least one more card really adds up. Also just learning to c-bet less in these games compared to hold'em saves a lot of money as well. You should though c-bet a lot of hands where you have good back door equity and a ton of turn cards improve your hand. It's easier to semi-bluff the turn since there are more folds on the turn than the flop in PLO games but if they continue on to the river you save a lot of money by letting go of what many would consider to be strong hands to aggressive action on the last street to what is usually the nuts.
MONTH IS GOING OK POKERWISE. HAVE PLAYED ABOUT 80% OF VOLUME AT 6MAX TABLES NOW, A NICE CHANGE. MOST SESSIONS WERE GREAT EXCEPT FOR 1 WHERE I LOST LIKE 5 BUYINS AT 400NL, GAMES HAVE BEEN QUITE AMAZING TBH.
I WON'T POST THE GRAPHS BUT MADE ALSO 2K ON SITES THAT AREN'T IN USD. AND SO FAR EARN ABOUT 1K IN RAKEBACK, LIFE IS GOOD, HOPEFULLY CAN PUSH ANOTHER 10K MONTH.
ALSO THIS IS MY PLO GRAPH THAT I STARTED PLAYING IT IN APRIL 2020. ITS ALL MICROSTAKES SO LIKE 2C/4C TO .3/.6 USD...EV WINRATE IS @ 20BB/100, WITH ACTUAL WINRATE 26BB/100 AFTER 13K HANDS, I AM PLAYING SOME OF THE MOST LOLSOFT GAMES THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN. FOR THE PLO PLAYERS OUT THERE...HOW SUSTAINABLE IS THIS?
CRUSHING POKER ATM. IN MAY I WON ABOUT 10K TOTAL INCL RAKEBACK, PLAYED MUCH MORE 6MAX THAN I AM USED TO BUT HAVE ADJUSTED WELL AND CRUSHING THE NOOBS AND **** REGS. NO PROBLEM.
THIS IS SINCE MAY1ST 2020 UNTIL TODAY. USD SITES ONLY.
WON ANOTHER 5K ON THE FOREIGN CLUBS I PLAY AT IN SAME TIME PERIOD.
fold, CO raises to $100.41 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $97.41, BB raises to $301.23, Hero raises to $807.66 and is all-in, BB calls $390.77 and is all-in
Flop:($1,484.41, 3 players) 7 4 Q
Turn:($1,484.41, 3 players) Q
River:($1,484.41, 3 players) 7
Spoiler:
Hero shows Q Q (Four of a Kind, Queens)
Main Pot [$301.23]: (Pre 58%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot#1 [$1,183.18]: (Pre 61%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
CO shows 8 A (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
Main Pot [$301.23]: (Pre 9%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
BB shows A K (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
Main Pot [$301.23]: (Pre 34%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [$1,183.18]: (Pre 39%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
Flop:($24.00, 3 players) T A K SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $12.00, SB raises to $50.00, fold, Hero calls $38.00
Turn:($124.00, 2 players) 2 SB bets $66.00, Hero raises to $198.00, SB raises to $566.00, Hero calls $432.74 and is all-in, SB calls $59.69 and is all-in
River:($1,375.38, 2 players) 7
Spoiler:
Hero shows Q J (Flush, King High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 80%, Turn 91%) SB shows A T (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 20%, Turn 9%) Hero wins $1,362.90
WENT OUT 2 NIGHTS BACK TO BACK FOR FRIENDS BDAY, ONE OF THE BETTER NIGHTS OUT THAT WE HAVE HAD IN A LONG TIME.\
STARTED OUT THE FIRST BAR WITH THESE 2 BAD BITCHES.
AFTER THIS BAR, THEN WENT TO 136STREET...I HAD 2 GIRLS AGAIN AND BOUGHT THEM SHOTS OF ABSINTHE AND THEN WHISKY AND PROBABLY TEQUILAS ALSO BUT CAN'T REMEMBER FOR SURE...ANYWAY THIS VID IS THE END RESULT
LOL THEY TOLD ME NEXT DAY SHE COULDN'T COME TO WORK, LOL MISSION ACCOMPLISH.
ANYWAY AT THIS POINT ITS LIKE 5AM AND THIS BAR CLOSING, 1 GUY OF OUR GROUP PUKED AND WENT HOME, ANOTHER ONE WAS ABOUT TO PUKE AND KEPT TALKING ABOUT RANDOM THINGS IN LIKE FRENCH LANGUAGE OR SOME ****, NICE GUY WHEN HE WAS SOBER...BUT I HAD TO KEEP MY DISTANCE.
ME N THE ONLY SEMI SOBER DUDE LEFT DECIDED WE WANT TO KEEP DRINKIN SO WE GO TO 104 STREET IN SOME SHITTY BAR THAT I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF. WE CHOP A BOTTLE OF WINE, HE GETS 2 GIRLS THAT ARE PROBABLY GRANDMAS..HONESTLY IF THEY WERE BOTH OVER 50YR OLD I WOULDN'T BE SUPRISE. I GET 2GIRLS ALSO...NOT AS BAD AS HIS BUT DEF OVER 35 YEARS OLD, UGLY AS ****...BEFORE I EVEN TAKE A SIP OF MY WINE I LOOK OVER AT MY FRIEND AND HES GETTING NOSHED OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BAR BY THESE 2 GILFS...WTF...SO I JUST PULL MY COCK OUT ALSO AND TELL THE GIRLS "SAMESAME". WE SPEND THE NEXT 20 MINUTES FINISHING OFF THE BOTTLE WHILE GETTING MILF/GILF HEAD THEN BAIL. WHAT A LIFE.