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10-08-2017 , 12:51 PM
I would check AK hh very often here on the flop
10-08-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
betfold AKhh on 976hh? wow, stopped reading there. wtf lol
ya i'm piling it in there
10-08-2017 , 01:02 PM
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I think Fatboy means check flop/call turn, which is a line you should at least be considering.
Close enough, FB misread the hh a little bit, my bad
10-08-2017 , 03:15 PM
you could also xb AKhh with these stack sizes
10-08-2017 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Everest17
ya i'm piling it in there
This is live remember! Much narrower raising range on the flop. We don't have anywhere enough equity to get it in otf.

I realise checking back flop is an option but I think betting for fold equity vs hands that have equity as well as to fold out some small pairs is slightly better.
10-09-2017 , 04:33 AM
Assuming your iso range is pretty similar to your 3betting range, I would check pretty close to range on this board. AKhh is one of the few hands i would consider betting, but i like x/calling and realizing your equity

As played would get it in.

EDIT: thought u were in SB. still prefer flop check back for same reasons
10-09-2017 , 05:14 AM
Still GII as played? I don't see how it's winning. :/
10-09-2017 , 08:14 AM
Daily Update - Monday 9/10

Hours Played: 4.6
Profit: -$900

Notes: Played really good overall today I think. Couple spots:

Hand 1

Hero opens JdJs from UTG $25, didn't see that there was two posters in MP/LP, one of them calls, and CO or BTN calls. 3 to flop.
Flop $85: 476dd
Hero cbets $50, poster calls, LP folds.
Turn $185: 9d
Hero has no option but to jam $125, villain snaps with 44 and we lose.

Hand 2

Villain is biggest spastic in the game. Has been making silly river bluffs into the nuts, calling all ins for large pots with gutshots (and getting there), is genuinely one of the bigger whales I've ever played with.

Effective stacks $625
Spastic opens UTG $20, Hero 3bets KK to $65, villain calls.
Flop $135: 764ss
Check, hero cbets $85, villain hums and haws and calls.
Turn $305: 7o
Obviously bad card for us but his range is soooo wide and we still have the best hand vaaaast majority of the time. Have to bet again to protect vs equity and value bet vs worse.
Check, hero bets $175 (we have about $300 behind), villain shoves, we have to sigh call and lose to 78o. Whatever.

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Should have stuck around longer but for whatever reason I just left the poker room and walked home after that hand? Have no reason to leave with the Jesus seat on the biggest spastic. Still have enough money to rebuy too but for whatever reason was just really demoralised? Not good enough!

Very frustrating to have no really got any traction going in my first 400 hours. As always though, we have no option but to grind through it and keep on keeping on.

What can we learn from today? Even when you play perfect for 5 hours and then lose a big pot to the biggest whale, it's imperative we stay and continue playing. We bring 3 max buyins with us for this purpose and we effectively play a half session for no reason.

Back at it again tomorrow!
10-09-2017 , 08:28 AM
How have you done so far over those 400 hours?
10-09-2017 , 08:29 AM
If youre feeling tilted/demoralized theres no reason to hang around imo, whales always going to be there. Five hours is decent too, not like you left after 1 hour.

gl, following!
10-09-2017 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
How have you done so far over those 400 hours?
Pitiful! Like $15/hr :')

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Originally Posted by JigSaw_
If youre feeling tilted/demoralized theres no reason to hang around imo, whales always going to be there. Five hours is decent too, not like you left after 1 hour.

gl, following!
I wasn't tilted, just a little frustrated I guess. Leaving when you are way behind volume targets for the week and the game is still good is just bad. I left after an hour last night so was supposed to recoup lost time tonight! :s

Will definitely put in a good 8+ hours tomorrow though.
10-09-2017 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by meale
Daily Update - Monday 9/10
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Hand 2

Villain is biggest spastic in the game. Has been making silly river bluffs into the nuts, calling all ins for large pots with gutshots (and getting there), is genuinely one of the bigger whales I've ever played with.

Effective stacks $625
Spastic opens UTG $20, Hero 3bets KK to $65, villain calls.
Flop $135: 764ss
Check, hero cbets $85, villain hums and haws and calls.
Turn $305: 7o
Obviously bad card for us but his range is soooo wide and we still have the best hand vaaaast majority of the time. Have to bet again to protect vs equity and value bet vs worse.
Check, hero bets $175 (we have about $300 behind), villain shoves, we have to sigh call and lose to 78o. Whatever.

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Should have stuck around longer but for whatever reason I just left the poker room and walked home after that hand? Have no reason to leave with the Jesus seat on the biggest spastic. Still have enough money to rebuy too but for whatever reason was just really demoralised? Not good enough!

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Hand 1 is fine.

Hand 2
I think you can make it 70 pre, purely because it's this villain.
If villain is genuinely thinking on flop it's less likely he has a 7, meaning that the turn isn't that bad.

Next time just take a break and continue grinding
10-09-2017 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghostdawg
Hand 1 is fine.

Hand 2
I think you can make it 70 pre, purely because it's this villain.
If villain is genuinely thinking on flop it's less likely he has a 7, meaning that the turn isn't that bad.

Next time just take a break and continue grinding
Agree on all points!
10-09-2017 , 04:48 PM
Def more than $65, Id go $80 or $90 vs described villain. Ive been 4x'ing my 3bets alot lately and liking it. They just dont fold man.

I also think you can check this particular turn vs this particular villain bc he does in fact have all 7x in his range. You also arent interested in denying equity as much as realizing your own imo...plus there's value outside of denying equity, and it comes from:


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Originally Posted by meale
Villain is biggest spastic in the game. Has been making silly river bluffs into the nuts
10-10-2017 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Def more than $65, Id go $80 or $90 vs described villain. Ive been 4x'ing my 3bets alot lately and liking it. They just dont fold man.

I also think you can check this particular turn vs this particular villain bc he does in fact have all 7x in his range. You also arent interested in denying equity as much as realizing your own imo...plus there's value outside of denying equity, and it comes from:
Yah the reason I went 65 was because I 3bet him bigger once and he folded, felt like that was a decent number.

I really hate checking this turn. What do you mean by realising my own equity? I have already realised it. Imo the EV of betting turn to charge draws or get value from some weird pair is > checking behind turn, allowing him to realise equity, and attempting to bluff catch river.

If this was a rainbow board or something I think the value of trying to let him bluff becomes higher.
10-10-2017 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by meale
Daily Update - Sat 01/10/17



Hours Played: ~4-8

Profit: $638

Game Type: PPPoker 1/2 NLH

Notes: Didn't end up heading to the live game last night, heard it was pretty bad anyway. I had made plans to meet up with a friend for drinks during the fireworks but that ended up falling through. All the while I just played PPPoker in bed. Was a stupidly easy game and I definitely need to be playing more when NLH runs. Unfortunately, holdem probably only gets up a few times a week - and during those times I'm usually playing live so I'm not sure how useful it'd be. I think I'll just cash out from PPP and then if I find myself in a spot like I did last night, not playing live but wanting to get some volume in, I will redeposit. I'm not tracking PPPoker results because technically it's "online poker" - even if it's all live players and on a mobile app.



Today is Sunday. It's about 12pm now and I'm about to get out of bed. Will Head straight to the gym and smash legs & some back: deadlifts, bent over barbell rows, leg extensions, and maybe some GHRs. After that, I'll come home, smash a protein shake, eat some oatmeal, and head to the casino to get some volume in.


Hey mate just a quick question about the pppoker app, how did you find a group to join and is it full of locals around your city or complete randoms from all over the world, gl on the grind


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10-10-2017 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ins1ght
Hey mate just a quick question about the pppoker app, how did you find a group to join and is it full of locals around your city or complete randoms from all over the world, gl on the grind


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Yeah my club is basically a local home game that got robbed so they've gone online because it's safer. Not sure how one goes about just joining random clubs tbh.
10-10-2017 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by meale
I really hate checking this turn. What do you mean by realising my own equity? I have already realised it. Imo the EV of betting turn to charge draws or get value from some weird pair is > checking behind turn, allowing him to realise equity, and attempting to bluff catch river.
No hand realizes its equity until the river. Even a hand as static as KK on 7467ss. Ott, you've got ~65% equity vs 56,67,78,88-JJ, and some spade combos. But vs a turn x/r you're in much worse shape, and should probably fold even getting 2.6:1 as most of his bluffs x/r flop and his turn x/r range is exactly what it looks like it is (7x and a few spade combos that want to apply pressure and didnt x/r flop). That's 65% unrealized equity in what was a $300 pot before turn action.

Try and get away from charging people for draws and also get away from being scared of letting cards roll off.

Yes you should be betting for value but when the top flop card pairs ott vs a whale villain that has all 7x in his range he has a rather large range advantage compared to us on this texture and with his high bluff frequencies otr we are fine letting one rot off bc we still get two streets of value.

Finally, if you do want to bet, it should be a stuff. As you can see with propokertools, villain has something like a 35/65 here with the range i identified above, when you bet half pot you arent denying anything. You'd also never bluff with this sizing, the few times you want to yolo 56 or spades or whatever a stuff would be best, imo. Also we want him to put all the money in with his draws ott.
10-10-2017 , 12:16 PM
Look, I don't disagree that checking turn is a fine option here. It's quite possibly best too if we're in the business of reducing variance.

But I do disagree that if we bet turn we should be stuffing. Think this is pretty bad and only isolates us vs his 7x while he's quite capable of folding draws. He's a spastic but not that spastic. I'm not concerned with what my bluffs want to do on the turn either because I probably have very few vs him to begin with.
10-10-2017 , 12:35 PM
Daily Update - Tues 10/10

Hours Played: 6.9
Profit: $60

Notes: Played some really good poker today I felt. I played a very different style to normal - I seemed a lot looser and was isolating over limpers and taking down a LOT of small pots. Usually I just fold a lot of 67s type hands pre in various spots but I found I could raise it up tonight and no one would give me any resistance whatsoever.

Did lose a $1k flip unfortunately... UTG limps, UTG+1 iso's to $25, folds to hero in BB with AKo, we make it $100, fold UTG+1 snapjams, I sigh call. QQ. He only wants to run it once and board's no good for us.

Somehow still managed to profit for the day... couple more hands.

Hand 1

BTN straddles to $5, hero makes it $23 in SB w black QQ, BTN calls.

Flop: J97
Hero cbets $25, call
Turn: 2
Hero cbets $75, call
River: 4
Hero cbets $125, villain SNAP calls river with K5

Had a pretty bad feeling about the hand from about the turn onwards, which is reflected in my bet sizing on the river. No thought of jamming there apparently! So we lose $250 in that spot.

Hand 2


Hero opens 89 UTG to $20, 2 callers.
Flop: 2TJr
Check, hero $45, call, call.
Turn: 8o
*At this point it's a weird spot because on the one hand, we have a ton of equity but don't exactly have much fold equity vs two opponents. Checking is probably not the best option because then we can't control the bet size. I think barrelling is a decent idea and then following through on good rivers if we can get it HU OTT.*
Check, hero bets $130, villain raises to $295, fold, fold.

Results: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...7C8876B842!334

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Also decided tonight that I need to regain focus life-wise on what's important. Volume of late has been slack, spendings have been fairly slack, and I've generally had my mind elsewhere. I've found myself staying up late researching cryptocurrency day trading and ***** about on exchanges - essentially putting time into sht that is counter-productive right now.

So right now, I have two more days in this week - I'm going to try and finish off this week as best I can before next week. Next week I'll look to play about all of my volume at the casino - I want to get 50 hours in next week to help recoup some of the missed volume of late. 50 hours around casino fish should be good for me too results-wise, although I don't seem to be able to win in that place! On my day off, which will be Monday, I want to relax and spend some time writing on my blog - something I've neglected lately. That's it. Poker and philosophy, full steam ahead!
10-10-2017 , 01:28 PM
Weird that villain in hand 1 wouldn't raise with the K high flush.
10-10-2017 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WehrmatsWormhat
Weird that villain in hand 1 wouldn't raise with the K high flush.
Super weird agreed. She's coolered me so many times too but let me save a lot of money on the river by not raising the effective nuts. :")
10-10-2017 , 09:40 PM
she probably got maximum value against your specific hand, must have been a pretty big whale for you to 3 barrel this hand
10-11-2017 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
she probably got maximum value against your specific hand, must have been a pretty big whale for you to 3 barrel this hand
She's not a big whale. I think it's a pretty standard 3barrel for value vs Jx.
10-11-2017 , 09:01 AM
Cheers Brian you ****.

      
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