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Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals

06-16-2018 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
well I know I'd make money with it because if they call so much it means they have no idea how to play poker so you can easily show a profit postflop from their bazillion leaks, that said in theory it's a fold
No, you wouldn't, just shut up. Phil Ivey wouldn't make money opening this UTG on this type of table.
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06-16-2018 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
yeah guys jamming combo draws are such sick spews, never bet with combo draws
Open-jamming or check-jamming flop will probably show a profit in the long run, if stacks aren't too deep. But it's high variance and OP should be minimizing his variance as much as he can with his low bankroll.
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06-16-2018 , 02:00 PM
in honor of op i went out and purchased my very furst 20$ burger. It felt wrong spending that much on a burger...but it was in fact wonderful.

ty for the inspiration 6bet me
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06-16-2018 , 02:06 PM
Did you tip $13 or something?
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06-16-2018 , 02:14 PM
required dick waving to post in this thread: yeah, I dunno anything about xeno, so maybe he's some 500z pro or something, but I just skim over all his posts now because its always just really terrible strat, and I assume he sucks at poker based on what ive read.

In other news, live poker is super easy. QQ vs AA aipf and I river a 4 flush. 3 bet JJ btn vs hj and flop QJx and get called down by KQ. Had two flush draws get there vs same half stacker. Only hands I lost any real chips on were AKo 3 bet PF that whiffed and i double barreled and a couple squeezes that I gave up on awful flops multiway.

but I also remembered why I hate live poker, had 3 young wanna bees who couldnt not talk strat after every hand, and one of whom was a massive asshat and then a donk middle aged guy who constantly berated the fish at the table to the guy next to him, but at a normal volume level.

I didn't drink tho cuz i was my own ride, and figured after my earlier comment i jinxed myself and if i got ****ty id end up losing my ass and have to sleep in my car a loser, heh.
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06-16-2018 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
but I also remembered why I hate live poker, had 3 young wanna bees who couldnt not talk strat after every hand, and one of whom was a massive asshat and then a donk middle aged guy who constantly berated the fish at the table to the guy next to him, but at a normal volume level.
Yeah talk about anything other than poker at the poker table please. Maybe even say that to them. I love playing live poker for the most part. Interacting with different people and characters. There's a lot of rubes, squares, clods, and the occasional diamond in the rough. But you just gotta accept people for what they are.

Appoint yourself table captain and steer your ship in a better direction if you don't like the course it's on!
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06-16-2018 , 03:12 PM
OP in a nutshell:

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06-16-2018 , 04:01 PM
more like this imo


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06-16-2018 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I saw this, pretty interesting conversation.

I like Dr. Peter Attia too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHdoAhZyP3I
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06-16-2018 , 04:42 PM
Finally, you guys sussed xeno...a year late but w/e.

Just swinging my own dick a little, but at my age nobody else is gonna.

PS

sry to leave you with that image

Spoiler:
not, kiss my squirrel
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06-16-2018 , 06:07 PM
yea I mean recreational players telling me I'm terrible is nothing new heh, that's kinda why they're recs
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06-16-2018 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
yea I mean recreational players telling me I'm terrible is nothing new heh, that's kinda why they're recs
bunch of recs on here. graphs please and also dick pics.
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06-16-2018 , 07:32 PM
Opening T8ss UTG is terrible AINEC.
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06-16-2018 , 07:37 PM
But, but, but... POWSTFLOP
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06-16-2018 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
Opening T8ss UTG is terrible AINEC.
If you're deep enough (and I'm not sure what that threshhold is) then you should start opening some small % of your T8s. But 100bb deep or less live poker yeah it's pretty terrible.
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06-16-2018 , 07:40 PM
I thought he was only taking 600 sheets to the casino on any given day....
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06-16-2018 , 07:46 PM
T8 is a reasonable open if the villains you play against are playing somewhat reasonably. The problem with this open in the games OP is playing is that I suspect there is very little room for post flop play. The opponents are just playing lotto poker...ie just trying to hit their hand. OP will generally not have a positional advantage, nor even a hand strength advantage with T8. He will have initiative but that is a lot less important when you are playing against players that can't fold.
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06-16-2018 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
If you're deep enough (and I'm not sure what that threshhold is) then you should start opening some small % of your T8s. But 100bb deep or less live poker yeah it's pretty terrible.
The deeper you are, the more you'll lose when you make your hand. 🙄
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06-16-2018 , 09:22 PM
yea shud just play AA so you make sure you have the best hand pre
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06-16-2018 , 09:43 PM
fishes should learn this strat.
1)They will lose less than they do by default
2)it's less tilting for you to play against them, just collect the blinds
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06-16-2018 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
yea shud just play AA so you make sure you have the best hand pre
Yes of course, not raising T8s UTG in a full ring game is exactly the same thing as folding KK and every worse hand from all positions. Excellent analysis sir.
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06-17-2018 , 03:14 AM
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yea I mean recreational players telling me I'm terrible is nothing new heh, that's kinda why they're recs
Just to be clear, I'm not saying you suck at poker.

I'm saying you suck. Period.



PS I do suck at poker, but that's not why I'm a rec, capisci?

Last edited by Fatboy54; 06-17-2018 at 03:20 AM.
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06-17-2018 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
That's what most bad players think "My postflop skills allow me to play many more hands preflop because I can outplay and outwit and outlast my opponents". But you're such a noob you don't realize that most of these people do know how to play poker post flop reasonably well and that a large part of the pros edge is to be disciplined and outplay your opponent preflop.

"In theory". You sound like a big noob. (Incoming noob telling me how high he plays and how good he is blah blah blah but no one cares because you still sound like a grade 1 noob.)
Xeno totally owned by a dude living in a car. Love it. Well said as well.
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06-17-2018 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
Xeno totally owned by a dude living in a car.
You pretty much just outted Rich Checkmaker as the true professional poker player in this thread.
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06-17-2018 , 05:08 AM
Opening T8s UTG is marginal. It's not going to be massively +EV but it's not going to be massively -EV either. I do think though that if people are flatting raises with 76o and only 3betting super premiums {KK+}, then those are pretty good conditions for opening this hand, since it means we'll get to go multiway a lot, which is exactly what we want. The thing we don't want is to face aggressive 3bettors that will force us to fold pre, so I'd be more inclined to fold this hand pre on a table with lots of 3betting, which is rarely the case at 1/3 live.

And why are people saying that 3betting a perfect rundown like 9876 single-suited is a mistake in PLO? So what, you're only going to 3bet AAxx and nothing else? The people who only 3bet AAxx in PLO are equivalent to the people who only 3bet KK+ in NLHE. They're passive fish. And I'm not going to be a passive fish.
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