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You guys are trying to tell me people dont cbet/bet bvb and give up at least 20% of the time. Also raising that flop isolating yourself vs better hands and having very few outs vs flop bet calling range just extract value from draws that have good equity vs you anyway.

And when it comes to bluffing with blockers, I am a fish but im assuming you shouldn't squeeze with blockers like suited aces and Aj because you will be end up against AQ-AK Jj-QQ more often multiway and be screwed. But if you are button or cutoff vs single raiser from cutoff/mp you should still iso 3bet with blockers to prevent the pot from going multiway vs setminers and sc overcallers...

BTW where is op. Dd he go busto or he in jail for pimpin his gf for bankroll

When you 3 bet with small suited aces and the raiser does happen to call with AK/AQ, you win the pot with a cbet just about every time you both miss, which is the vast majority of the time.

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06-07-2018 , 03:01 PM

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barney big nuts

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really? people fold aq and ak on a 642r flop or 752r or 10jx or 224 or 668 or.....
You sure bout that big mike?

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06-07-2018 , 03:01 PM

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Phil Me Up

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06-07-2018 , 03:04 PM

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Xenoblade

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some players do fold AK high and AQ high on low boards live which is another reason why live is easier

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06-07-2018 , 03:05 PM

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Petrucci

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Originally Posted by yadrooolahCOGD

You guys are trying to tell me people dont cbet/bet bvb and give up at least 20% of the time. Also raising that flop isolating yourself vs better hands and having very few outs vs flop bet calling range just extract value from draws that have good equity vs you anyway.

And when it comes to bluffing with blockers, I am a fish but im assuming you shouldn't squeeze with blockers like suited aces and Aj because you will be end up against AQ-AK Jj-QQ more often multiway and be screwed. But if you are button or cutoff vs single raiser from cutoff/mp you should still iso 3bet with blockers to prevent the pot from going multiway vs setminers and sc overcallers...

BTW where is op. Dd he go busto or he in jail for pimpin his gf for bankroll

He is probably just taking a break from writing. That being said i would not be surprised if OP just went on full rage monkeytilt one random night and blowing off his entire roll in the 5/10 game.

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06-07-2018 , 03:08 PM

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barney big nuts

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i think maybe a few years ago they did not so much now a days. Some of the live guys actually figuring out how to play sadly

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06-07-2018 , 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by barney big nuts

really? people fold aq and ak on a 642r flop or 752r or 10jx or 224 or 668 or.....
You sure bout that big mike?

lmao. yes, yes they do. Live players will fold Aq on KQx because they always have a king

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06-07-2018 , 03:20 PM

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yadrooolahCOGD

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lmao. yes, yes they do. Live players will fold Aq on KQx because they always have a king

I put you on AK!

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06-07-2018 , 03:21 PM

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Xenoblade

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yea live players make some ridiculous explo folds in 3bet pots lol

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06-07-2018 , 03:23 PM

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Alobar

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Jesus, will you all shut the **** up already.

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06-07-2018 , 03:36 PM

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Rich Checkmaker

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Originally Posted by Alobar

Jesus, will you all shut the **** up already.

But we were just scratching the surface of the nature of live games and live players and how lol exploitable they are.

I've literally asked a player what his cards were and he flipped them over! "I don't want you to give me a bad beat"...... Live players! You ask them what they have and they show you sometimes.

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06-07-2018 , 03:36 PM

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TheTyman9

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Some of this strat talk is painful. No you shouldn't fold flop with Q8. No you shouldn't raise the Q8 when your intention is to be turning it into a bluff. Yes there could be times it makes sense to raise it for value.

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06-07-2018 , 03:38 PM

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Phil Me Up

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Originally Posted by Alobar

Jesus, will you all shut the **** up already.

I think we need alot more discussion about exploitative play in online play money games iyam. We've barely scratched the surface tbh.

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06-07-2018 , 03:42 PM

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barney big nuts

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

The flop was 875? I never call a flop bet with Q8 here. Im either folding or raising. A flop raise followed by a turn bet will get A8 and K8 to fold most of the time when it comes from the BB (as well as weaker 8s of course). What can he beat?

I dont think you can try to call down when most every 8, that would bet from the blind, either beats you or has outs to beat you. Id rather get aggro or just fold.

Exhibit A folks

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06-07-2018 , 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by deathorglory0

This thread is one of the most insane I've seen in all my years of 2p2.

Keep it up you strange strange people

Indeed, voted 5 stars. And who would of phunked that OP would turn out to be one of the most rational voices ITT

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06-07-2018 , 04:08 PM

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Kelvis

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STOP DE FAKKING STRAT TALK

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06-07-2018 , 04:29 PM

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nevertilt19

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Originally Posted by tgiggity

lmao. yes, yes they do. Live players will fold Aq on KQx because they always have a king

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I put you on AK!

Also the complete opposite. Some complete spewtards if they put you on exactly a hand such as AK ive seen people call off hundreds of dollars because they really think you have AK like on a 10Jxx board.

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06-07-2018 , 04:30 PM

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Kelvis

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Ban please.

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06-07-2018 , 04:34 PM

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SpinMeRightRound

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Originally Posted by Kelvis

STOP DE FAKKING STRAT TALK

Who cares, a bit of strategy talk in this thread isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to how tough the games are. Besides, poker (at least online) will almost certainly be dead in 5-10 years due to bots/solvers/AI.

If you want to stop strategy talk because you want OP to go bust, then that's just cruel.

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06-07-2018 , 04:40 PM

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Kelvis

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No, I want this fakking strat nonsense out of the way because it distracts from the topic at hand.

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06-07-2018 , 05:16 PM

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Petrucci

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Originally Posted by Kelvis

Ban please.

+1 this is out of control

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06-07-2018 , 06:28 PM

#1523

mahsjdi

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Lets face it, strat is like 25% of OPs problem

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06-07-2018 , 07:48 PM

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tgiggity

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i want moar strat talk in tha threadz

thankz

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06-08-2018 , 12:38 AM

#1525

mirage01

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Originally Posted by barney big nuts

so you just sit around and WAIT for two pair or better?
You must do well LOL

Please tell us all again how you don't really Need to play poker because of how rich you are
If i had to bet i'd bet you have mentioned it at least 10xs in your 6000 or so posts (i barely read what your live fishy ass writes and I have heard you say it at least 3 or 4 times)

barney no nuts, You have read a lot of his posts for a Dec 2017 account. Another pretender who went busto now hiding in shame. Not related to Xenoblade by any chance are you? lulz

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