I dont, but i have a pretty accurate impression of what your average typical 1/3 villain is likely showing up with here after logging somewhere between 3-4000 hours of 1-2 and 1-3 (the first 2-3 years ive played i didnt track my hours) in several different locations in different countries.

yeah I see a lot of players at low stakes zoom (from watching twitch lol) make this mistake too of making super exploitable adjustements based on the player pool instead of specific to X player

This has nothing to do with making extreme exploitative adjustments, this is understanding that the pool doesn't 3bet, squeeze, or shove light so why would we call off light?

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some people 3bet squeeze and shove light, some people don't

xeno - Not sure why you are going to war over this. Pettrucci has played a ton of live low steaks and stomps it pretty well. He gave a well thought post describing his thought process. IIRC you play mostly online? As far as I can tell his thoughts and contributions to this thread have been spot on gold

I mean I've been around since 2006, I've played my fair share of live poker too

anyway I don't think it's too bad to fold to the shove if we think villain is a bit more nutted than he should be, I was just saying it's a lot closer than people made it seem, saying stuff like "this is bad" is just a wrong approach to poker in general

I don't think it's horrible to fold or call. It's not an easy decision but when I look at it, from an exploitative perspective, it's a fold. I've honestly played tons of 1/3 live at Crown where OP plays and I can safely say I've never seen anyone shove with a hand worse than 99 or AJ in this spot

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man, I dunno how to comment on these last hands without sounding like a troll, but I think at the party tonight you should ask for your job back, and then put your bankroll into some kind of interest bearing account and grind microstakes online and spend your free time learning poker, and then maybe come back in 6 months and try this again.

btw guys the Q8s is fine in BvB

Id recommend some ignition 50 zone OP, we could always do with more whales.

oh wow you play on ignition and you're still at 50z

why don't you just quit poker mirage?

Can't believe people are advocating these high variance plays with OP's small bankroll. Maybe KQo is a +EV call against the 4b but that's only because you've put $65 in already. If I put $200 in with 72o and someone shoves for $3 more then it's +EV to call but it doesn't mean I'm on the road to profit playing like that.

Keep it simple OP, 3 bet the top of your range, see lots of flops with the less strong hands and value own when you hit big, not just one pair. 1/3 is incredibly soft but too many players try to get too fancy and end up taking high variance spots for no reason. The best grinders will play small ball until they have the nuts.

difference is squeezing KQo is printing money, squeezing 72o isn't.....

Is it really printing oop vs 3 live droolers? I highly doubt it. Its most prob plus ev, but problem is Op might be broke before he ever realizes it.

it's printing especially because it's vs 3 live droolers

Xenoblade I see what you're doing. That's just cruel to OP man.

Live players are known for folding to raises, my bad.

"printing money" printing money is getting it in as an 80% favorite. printing money is not making high variance plays with a tiny bankroll over small samples that may or may not be marginally +EV.

you don't know anything about printing money whatsoever, no offense

Q8s:

I would mostly just fold to the donk bet. Yeah, we fold the winner here some of the time, but big deal, it's a small (and I'm assuming heavily raked) pot. From a risk-of-ruin point of view (which I think you should be concerned with), I think you should play a very low variance type of game; your EV arguably won't be as high, but risk-of-ruin is much more important in your position, imo.

KQo:

Ditto for risk-of-ruin, imo. You can definitely make arguments for 3betting being more EV than simply folding here. But if you lose your BR, you're done. Just quietly fold here and move on, imo. I also fold to the reraise; this is a flatting monster too often and we're doing pretty horrible against AK/AQ too, although the math guys will no doubt tell us how we're doing overall with all this dead money against JJ- (which is admittedly also in play).

ETA: As always, I was grunching, but it looks like others have also mentioned the importance of nitting it up with your BR. I have an unlimited BR (barg) and even I still think folding AJo/KQo in EP and folding KJo on the Button to a raise is super standard (if you're a postflop monster, ok, whatever, do what you want). The AKs facing a 3bet from a tight player @ just 50bbs is a tough spot, but that's poker (get used to it).

Gloweryourriskofruinbyplayingtightertothevest,imoG

OP needs to find a stable source of income, right now. I know we’ve all been enjoying this poker nonsense, but that’s really the only reasonable advice. Get a new job immediately. You’re one drunken binge (or a week of run bad) from being homeless with no prospect of recovery.

Xeno your such a printer you had to make a new 2+2 account to hide in shame. Just image what a joke of reputation it takes to bother to do that.

it's not really hard to be a printer compared to you mirage

Why are you hiding?

Matzah,

That seems overly dramatic. If he busts his bankroll, OP just goes back to a delivery job. Maybe cuts back on his $1300 food and entertainment budget for a month or two.