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11-11-2018 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Lol I do dream of doing this some day, but not until I'm out of debt and have at least 10k of my own money saved up first.
So never then? Shame
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11-11-2018 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm not a full blown gambling addict. Maybe there are elements of addiction within me, but I do have some self control, and I believe enough control to be successful at poker.
I'm not sure why you believe you know what it takes to be successful at poker, especially compared to the successful players ITT whose advice you ignore.
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11-11-2018 , 07:19 PM
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I'm a scumbag because I found a loophole that allowed me to escape being freerolled?

You literally offered me nothing. No consideration at all. You're lucky I gave you the chance for a freeroll in the first place.
You're the one who offered the freeroll. Stop playing the victim card. Nobody had a chance to freeroll because you were never paying. You're a scumbag.
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11-11-2018 , 07:36 PM
Nobody here actually cares for the freeroll money, it's the principle that matters. It was stupid to offer it in the first place as you were told ten times over itt but you were insistent upon it. Just scrap the stupid freeroll, learn your lesson and actually play poker.

Going to Sydney would be an awful decision. Even if you sell 50% it's still far too high a % of your liferoll and as DLuo has pointed out the cash games will be reg heavy and have huge waiting lists.

Get it together.
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11-11-2018 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wj294
Going to Sydney would be an awful decision. Even if you sell 50% it's still far too high a % of your liferoll and as DLuo has pointed out the cash games will be reg heavy and have huge waiting lists.
But all the other Melbourne pros are going.
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11-11-2018 , 08:03 PM
Just immigrate OP lol


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11-11-2018 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
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I went home to my girlfriend and told her about how I plan to go to Sydney for a week, but this time, I plan to leave her in Melbourne, since I'm trying to minimise my cost of living and maximise the time I spend inside the poker room. She was surprisingly okay with this. She understands that we need to make some sacrifices to get money and get out of debt, so she allowed me to do this. Thus I plan to book the flights soon.
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Every post regarding her involves you always paying for everything, her phone, her holidays, her food, what kind of relationship is that? She is the only one who works in the relationship and she is just free rolling? Is she supporting her family in thailand while you do the donkey work or something?

Stop pretending you might not play the MTT, you will 100%
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11-11-2018 , 08:39 PM
I'm starting to have second thoughts about when I'll go to Sydney. Like the whole premise of the Sydney trip was that "there'll be a tonne of games running with lots of juicy gamblers".

But if what feel wrath says is true: that there'll actually be fewer cash game tables, longer wait lists and tougher competition, then it's making me completely reconsider.

I was under the impression that tournament events attracted more whales than pros, but I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by mirage01
Every post regarding her involves you always paying for everything, her phone, her holidays, her food, what kind of relationship is that? She is the only one who works in the relationship and she is just free rolling? Is she supporting her family in thailand while you do the donkey work or something?

Stop pretending you might not play the MTT, you will 100%
She earns just enough to survive: rent, tuition, food and bills, with nothing leftover. That's why it's usually up to me to save up for big expenses like a holiday or a new phone. She can't save.

Nah I am genuinely leaning towards not playing the MTT. For one, not a single person in this thread has expressed interest in buying a % of me, and for two, I'm honestly more excited for the cash games. I would primarily be going to Sydney for the cash games; the tournament would just be a little side project for some fun.

But if people are going to continuously call me a "scumbag" for playing in the tournament, then the whole fun of it quickly disappears.
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11-11-2018 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wj294
Nobody here actually cares for the freeroll money, it's the principle that matters. It was stupid to offer it in the first place as you were told ten times over itt but you were insistent upon it. Just scrap the stupid freeroll, learn your lesson and actually play poker.
This is what I thought: that the primary goal of the freeroll was to push me to be more disciplined, and that if I find a loophole, then I'm only cheating myself.

But apparently, a bunch of people here are determined to win the money at all costs, and these people say nothing to me in real life, but then talk sh*t behind my back about how they think I'm a "scumbag".

Like it's about as pathetic as the degen gambler who complains about "you forgot to burn a card! Call the AM over now!" when his draw misses, but then conveniently shuts up when his draw gets there. He has no principles; he just wants to win as much money as possible by trying to pretend that the game wasn't fair for him, when all the cards in the deck are completely f**king random, and he's only upset that he didn't win.

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Originally Posted by wj294
Going to Sydney would be an awful decision. Even if you sell 50% it's still far too high a % of your liferoll and as DLuo has pointed out the cash games will be reg heavy and have huge waiting lists.

Get it together.
50% is the bare minimum that I would sell if I were to play - I'd actually aim to sell 80%. And yes, it's a huge chunk of my roll (more than 5% of my roll if I take 50%), but it would only be a one off thing. I probably won't play another tournament for at least 6 months.

The cash game waiting list is a valid argument though, and it's making me reconsider... I still definitely want to go to Sydney, but maybe I can go during a different time of year (not during the WSOP).
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11-11-2018 , 09:03 PM
Dude, no one is trying to win your ****ing freeroll. Nobody even believes it is real. Calling you a scumbag is obviously over the time but I'm sure it's just to emphasise the point that if it was real and you had the intention to actually pay it then the angles you are pulling within the confines of the "bet" are pretty scummy.
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11-11-2018 , 09:05 PM
If you are a crusher the games in Melbourne should always be good.
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11-11-2018 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Trumps hit
This entire thread has never been about poker; it is merely an attempt by the OP to address his psychological issues. His insecurity, immaturity and lack of self-worth resonate on each and every page - more than a cry for help - a squeal for attention.
His vulnerability and gullibility are top of the range models. Exploited by many who read here and play against him. He may well as who Barry Urinstein is - I have played against him dozens of times and he simply wouldn't ever realise my identity - he is too caught up in his own ego, delusion and dreamtime.
This vulnerability entered into another level with the appearance of Mr d Luo, all his training at KxxG came to the fore with his well-groomed 50% interest 'loan solution'. Fantasy perpetuation; possibly not going to end well for either party.
He created this thread looking for feedback about his journey, however, the listening skills don't exist. Just morbid self-opinionation. OP always knows best - he is smarter than his 'followers'.
The most distinct measuring stick I employ to assess him when I see him, is his eyes. Watch them glean when he presents 20 $100 notes to the cashier and requests a breakdown of "a thousand in black, seven in......" and then quickly modifies it to another combination (because that is what important and wealthy people do... $2000 - there is the proof, look at the glean woman.......). On the tables the glean can fade fast; the eyes digress to staring devices, looking for answers, looking for comfort, looking for something........
Burn and crash is inevitable. Magnitude of them fantasy days is the only question. Many in here (have wisely) suggested psychological assistance. Ignored, rebuffed. But the day OP realises himself, that this is the correct and next course of action, then the point of this entire thread will be realised.
Okay I'm really curious who you are now...

Yeah admittedly, I can be a bit of a sperg when it comes to buying chips at the cashier. I have a very specific way that I like them to come. Something about the chip porn just gets to me.
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11-11-2018 , 09:28 PM
A. If you're in debt and barely getting by, saving up for vacations is not a good idea.
2. If all the good regs are leaving, why not just stay where you are and crush the fish? Make it a goal next year to be able to play larger buyin tournaments and series.
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11-11-2018 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Trumps hit
The most distinct measuring stick I employ to assess him when I see him, is his eyes. Watch them glean when he presents 20 $100 notes to the cashier and requests a breakdown of "a thousand in black, seven in......" and then quickly modifies it to another combination (because that is what important and wealthy people do... $2000 - there is the proof, look at the glean woman.......). On the tables the glean can fade fast; the eyes digress to staring devices, looking for answers, looking for comfort, looking for something........
lol gold. I have never been to a casino, so these live degenerate creatures are quite a fascinating species.
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11-11-2018 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
lol gold. I have never been to a casino, so these live degenerate creatures are quite a fascinating species.
I find it extremely hard to believe that someone can be around the poker community for so many years and not go to a casino even once... like surely you get curious?

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
A. If you're in debt and barely getting by, saving up for vacations is not a good idea.
2. If all the good regs are leaving, why not just stay where you are and crush the fish? Make it a goal next year to be able to play larger buyin tournaments and series.
1) The idea is that it would cost less than 1k total for the trip (excluding poker buyins). And since I'm up 7k this month, then that's pretty manageable.
2) This is a valid argument. I am genuinely reconsidering when I'll go.
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11-11-2018 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I find it extremely hard to believe that someone can be around the poker community for so many years and not go to a casino even once... like surely you get curious?
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I have zero interest in hanging out with smelly degenerate scum bags, plus I have never had any gambler mates in real life to go with.
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11-11-2018 , 10:03 PM
Ava,

Thank you for saving this train wreck of a thread. That was beautiful.

6,

You should really stop. Stop:

Being delusional about having discipline
Being delusional about your poker ability
Being delusional about needing psychiatric help
Being delusional about not being an addict
Taking out 20k loans from loan sharks
Making stupid free roll bets
Making plans to play tournaments where you are lighting money on fire (money that isn’t yours until your debt is paid in full), as you are clearly “the mark” in every tournament
Asking this thread for advice and ignoring it
Talking about pio
Being an entitled selfish prick




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11-11-2018 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
6,

You should really stop. Stop:

Being delusional about having discipline
I do have some discipline though. When was the last time I played 5/10+?

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Being delusional about your poker ability
I am pretty good at poker. I'm up over 20 buyins each at both 2/5 live and 25nl online this year.

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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
Being delusional about needing psychiatric help
I'd see a counsellor if it was free. Can't justify the cost though.

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Being delusional about not being an addict
I have admitted that there might be some elements of gambling addiction within me, but for the most part, I'm not a full blown gambling addict with zero self control.

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Taking out 20k loans from loan sharks
I did it once. It's not something I plan to repeat.

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Making stupid free roll bets
It wasn't stupid. It was going to incentivise me to be disciplined. And for the most part, it worked. Most days I stuck to it.

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Making plans to play tournaments where you are lighting money on fire (money that isn’t yours until your debt is paid in full), as you are clearly “the mark” in every tournament
I'm 4k up, so some of the money is mine. Actually, all of it is mine, in the sense that I have the freedom to invest this money however I choose.

And I doubt anyone who's played on the same table as me, when I'm sober, considers me to be "the mark".

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Asking this thread for advice and ignoring it
I listen to the good advice and I ignore the bad advice. Like I said many times before: when 2 people tell me things that completely contradict each other, I can't please both people at once.

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Talking about pio
I only just bought pio and you want me to stop talking about it already? Quite the opposite: I plan to talk about it a lot more in the near future. It's what all the crushers talk about. And I want to be a crusher.

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Being an entitled selfish prick
Lol how am I entitled? If anything, I'm one of the least entitled people out there. There's a reason why I don't complain about the loan or the stake. It's because I know that I'm not entitled to anything and that each opportunity which presents itself to me is a privilege, not a right.
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11-11-2018 , 10:32 PM
Ah well i've had a pretty **** night but cheers 6betme that post ^ cheered me up
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11-11-2018 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I find it extremely hard to believe that someone can be around the poker community for so many years and not go to a casino even once... like surely you get curious?



1) The idea is that it would cost less than 1k total for the trip (excluding poker buyins). And since I'm up 7k this month, then that's pretty manageable.
2) This is a valid argument. I am genuinely reconsidering when I'll go.
Why does it matter what you're up this month? You have a *negative* net worth.
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11-11-2018 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Why does it matter what you're up this month? You have a *negative* net worth.
19k cash - 15k debt = 4k net worth
So I'm in the positive.

Unless you want to count student debt, which I'm not including.
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11-11-2018 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Thank you. I will do this. I need to sleep now but some of the comments just really frustrated me, so I had to stay awake to argue my point.

I need to stop taking internet arguments so seriously and stop letting them get to me.
And yet here you are, 9 hours later, still arguing on the internet hahahaha

You know in the time you've been arguing on the internet, you could have actually played a lot of poker. Funny how preparing your own food costs you money, so you don't do that, but arguing on the internet doesn't.
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11-11-2018 , 11:04 PM
Obv pay off $5k more asap
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11-11-2018 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
19k cash - 15k debt = 4k net worth
So I'm in the positive.

Unless you want to count student debt, which I'm not including.
Pay off loan. Grind 1/3 with 10 BI roll. Or grind 25z and actually work on your game and move up, you'd have a big roll to start with, no longer needing to pay 50% to coaching, could just pay hourly rate like normal people and have plenty of cash for life roll expenses while you move up through the zoom limits... and um... no debt.

And the loan option is still always there if you decide you simply must go straight to 2/5 and be a "crusher" live.
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11-11-2018 , 11:07 PM
Don't worry OP you might be the next Melbourne trolley man
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