Sounds like you've planned this through, with a number of counter measures, which is a good thing. However, I still think it's a poor investment. There's nothing stopping him donking off your money one night when you/your friend can't be there to verify his results, or spending your money on expensive restaurants/phones outside the casino - just go through this thread and you'll see multiple times he does this, even when he promised he wouldn't. This isn't a legally binding contract, we must remember that. It's a loose arrangement based on trust and there are no negative consequences should he decide he doesn't want to pay you (this is the problem with every poker staking arrangement to be fair). The question you need to ask yourself is "would a bank lend money to this guy, given his history?". If the answer is no, then you certainly shouldn't.

Anyway I hope he turns a corner and it works out well for both of you! Although I'm sure you can understand my skepticism at this whole thing.

I think it's good that you have some IRL allies to help you out and instill a little discipline, I predict you will do well on the stake. Hope your trip to Sydney was enjoyable.

I think 6b is a ridiculously terrible investment but a micromanaged 6b is probably the least bad option. I think there's a reasonable chance the arrangement will work for both parties for some time and also likely to give 6b some idea of what's involved in grinding for real.

Replying because these past few comments have been positively critical, which I appreciate.

6b can’t actually degen my money because he has to get the chips off the verifier at the start of the session, and each time that he needs to top up / rebuy. He also needs to have the verifier cash out with him, and then they’re the ones who keep the cash, not 6b. So no verifier = no money = no chance to degen MY money. Let’s just hope he doesn’t degen off his own money haha.

What 6b does in his personal life with his money doesn't really have anything negative to do with the stake. In fact, it would just prolong his time on the stake which = more money for me (under my assumption he's winning). With that being said, I'm offering life coaching which will include money management, as I do personally want to see him do well, and play on his own roll eventually.

What history are you referring to? As far as I can see the only history he has is one of spending his own money that he either earned or won himself.

btw 6bet, it wasn't cool the way you abandoned this thread last time. I hope you'll have a little more consideration for your fans, the next time you go broke. cheers.

Don't worry DLuo & 6B, internet is full of toxic people because it's easy to be. Just ignore them and work on it together

We don't do it because it is hard but because it is easy

If I followed all the advice given to me on 2p2, I would never have made 10k in the first place. Remember how I used to play $1/$3 when I had $500 to my name? I went on a massive heater and built it all up from basically nothing. Through that, I managed to get 3 months off work, a trip to Sydney and an iPhone 7 for my gf. This came from nothing and I lost nothing ultimately; I just had some huge highs along the way.

Also, you do realise that this year, I've made more than 5k profit at 1/3 NL and more than 5k profit at 2/5 NL? I know I'm a winning player at these stakes, whether you believe it or not.

I think he mainly meant the life advice. Seriously man, you will bust a nut the first time you have decent 80 / 20 ground meat, with salt, pepper, and onion powder, spaghetti, tomato sauce, and basil on that **** when it's on your plate.

ALL that to feed you and your girl costs like $10 bucks. Pound of meat, $4.50. pound of spaghetti, $1.00. Salt, pepper (can be free if you save the packets from fast food places) onion powder, and basil, a dollar each and two bucks for tomato sauce.


Anyhoo, Glad to see you back in action at the tables. You are very fortunate to have found a real life backer and one who seems to know how to tame some of your... proclivities.

Good luck to you both, hope this arrangement is profitable for both parties and a good story for us as the audience.

Edit: Seriously, a good way to think about your meat is like this. The higher the fat content, the better it tastes and the less you need for seasoning. I think like 70 / 30 though has the meat shrink too much.

But anyway, Salt and Pepper are really truly all you need unless you get to the super super lean 96 / 4 ground meat.

I was a dumb ass and for like a year didn't season my meat until one day I did and was mad at myself for wasting a year on bland meat.

Who the **** doesn't season their meat
Sorry man, but you were worse of a degen than op

So like I said, I've made an overall profit for my backer, but not every pot has gone my way. Here are 2 big pots I lost playing with DLuo's money:

Hand 1: Exploiting a maniac whale

$1/$3, $400 effective
Hero is dealt TT (no spade) on BTN
Straightforward MAWG opens $16 UTG
Maniac calls $16
CO calls $16
Hero calls $16 BTN
BB calls $16

Flop ($74, 5ways) is 8s 4d 3s

2 checks
Maniac bets $50
CO folds
Hero raises to $150
2 folds
Maniac 3bet jams $384
Hero calls $384

Runout ($834) is 8s 4d 3s 6s 8h

Maniac flips over Ts 8c and wins an $834 pot. Nice 2 outer.

Hand 2: Drawing almost dead

$300 effective, fresh table, no reads

UTG limps $3
Hero raises $17 UTG+1 with Qs Qc
5 callers

Flop ($92, 6ways) is Ts 8s 6s

3 checks
Hero bets $60
1 fold
MAWG jams $280 BTN
3 folds
Hero calls $280

MAWG shows K7ss (flush) so we're drawing almost completely dead.
Turn is a Qd which brings us false hope but then river is Ah and we brick out. R.I.P.

why does the 4 of diamonds change to a 4 of spades?

Most of the big pots I won were the ones that were just handed to me. For example:

$1/$3 blinds, $300 effective
Maniac blind raises to $100 UTG+1 (not even exaggerating)
Hero looks down at QQ on BTN and 3bets to $300
Maniac calls $300 without even looking at his cards
We show our hand on the river and villain mucks

The very next hand:
Maniac rebuys for $300 and now blind raises to $100 UTG again
Hero looks down at AKo CO and 3bets to $300
Maniac calls $300 again without looking
We win at showdown

Easy $600 profit in 2 hands. I literally think that I had a ~$100/hr win rate for the duration that this maniac whale was on the table with me. He dropped about 2k in 3hrs, despite running super hot and sucking out on people constantly, like how he cracked my TT with T8o in the hand history above.

Sorry you're right. I edited the hand history to fix it. It was a two-tone flop, not a monotone flop.

I think the call with QsQx on Ts8s6s 6 ways is pretty bad against all but the spewiest of players.


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Delusional.com. You donked away a $10K roll, and spewed off buyin after buyin in spectacular fashion both at 1/3 and 2/5. There is nothing from your decisionmaking or course of judgement that tells us you are beating the games- neither does a valid samplesize excist that indicates that you are a winning player at these stakes.

The reality is that you have gotten free tailor fit advice from several posters during this thread that would have been worth alot of money in actual coaching. None of it stuck, you didnt listen at all,faceplanted as predicted of everyone in the thread- and here we go again. No connection to reality, excuses after excuses of why you donked off your perfectly healthy $10K roll- and why things will be different this time around just because you went busto and now have gotten a babysitter to split any profit with moving forward. Nothing you have written in this thread after the comeback indicates you have changed remotely since your last series of trainwreck decisions: you havent changed one bit. That is ok, its youre responsibility to grow/change if you want a different result than last time- but you simply cant expect other people to buy this who isnt born yesterday.

OP buy a van for you and your gf.

True that.

So you are suggesting that OP got extremely lucky to be ahead after all the sessions he played? I think not. Also I don't think OP ever actually had a 10k roll, just 10k in profits over the course of the year. He has many life leaks like buying gf 1k phone etc, but as far as poker goes, you're the delusional one thinking OP is a loser...

why do we have such negative attitudes? coz he is/has/was/will still continue to be in complete denial about everything poker related and some things life related. on top of that, insultingly chastises other people's helpful advice even tho he has no leg to stand on and literally ALL the evidence points to 6bme being wrong and advice from thread members being valid. that's why.

i mean i'm sure there's ppl in this thread that still think the whole thread's a troll due to 6betme's stubbornness, naivety and complete lack of having a remote f**** clue about most things poker related (e.g. my absolute fav, 'my hourly is $20 live so it's literally not worth my time preparing food at home'). imagine going to the doctors then criticising the doctors opinion coz 'u know better', this is what he has done for about 59 pages.

didn't graduate, got kicked out of uni**

Exactly this, good and needed post for those who have a hard time understanding the situation.

Also bolded is a 6bme classic that got me laughing so hard, thanks.The thread is filled with such timeless classics from start to finish from OP, so if anybody have the time and wants to create something like "the best of 6bme" post that would be golden. If done properly it could go into the best of stickies in the forum, it is that legendary stuff.

Actually OP is a prime example without wanting to be so of why low stakes livepoker will _always_ be profitable due to countless amount of clueless dreamers with big egos, who is complete ****ing delusional- and chooses to create their own fantasy reality when things dont go as planned. You can basically tell yourself what you want in livepoker, and fool yourself in any kind of way over huge periods of time-only your fantasy sets the limit.

Have you guys played 1/3? That game is full of terrible players. I don't get all the hate on 6bet me. Like sure he spewed at times but you can make money at 1/3 just nitting it up and applying the most basic poker strategy like not limping and calling with bad dominated hands. I think its super obvious that as long as he controls his tilt and plays his A game he will win for a sizable clip at 1/3.

Not gonna argue about the life issue stuff but lets have some compassion and not just go around trashing people all the time. Or is that too much to ask of the internet? This staking agreement sounds like a really good one for 6betme to get the coaching and structure he needs to become a successful poker player GL and subbing.

Yes, 1/3 is perfectly beatable but not if you start cold 4betting AJo and stuff like that. If he actually maintains any form of discipline I have no doubt he beats 1/3.

You do not have the sample size to assume you are beating 2/5. 5k is nothing, I've won or lost that in one and two sessions respectively.

And your first paragraph shows a lot of results oriented thinking you need to break yourself from. Just because you ran up 500 playing like a lunatic doesn't mean it was a good idea. Also the idea that losing money you've won is not really losing money is toxic and common among gambling addicts.

A guy wins 1k at 1/2 and moves up to 2/5 where he wins 5k. He jumps to 5/T where he runs up to 20k. He jumps to T/25 and runs up to 100k. He searches for even higher stakes games and finds a 50/100 where he manages to go broke in one night. At the end of it all he says to himself "it's okay, I only lost 200 dollars".

Don't be that guy.

I’ve actually followed this thread from its inception, I get that 6b has ignored good advice over time, and that it’s frustrating because we are the ones offering up our time and energy to do so. However that’s our choice, you don’t HAVE to give him advice, you don’t HAVE to continue reading this “train wreck”. But we all do, because deep down we are all very curious to see how this will turn out.

We also have the choice on our attitudes, it serves no purpose to be negative, except for maybe feeding your ego to be able to say “I’m better than you”. It’s actually ridiculous that 6b is still posting on this thread after the continue bashing by the public, but that doesn’t mean you should continue to bully him. Negativity breeds more negativity, which is not conducive to any form of success for anybody. Be a compassionate positive human being for a change, you’ll be amazed at how much happier you’ll be.

FYI - I’m up $1055 from my share of the staking so far. Early days, but 6b’s A game is actually pretty decent if you haven’t realised already. I’m happy to have a prop bet about 6b winning/losing $x if any of you trolls want to take me up on it and discuss some terms.