They probably read this thread and are results oriented.

OP just buy PIO ffs

If someone pays for my flight from Melbourne to America and back, then I'd be more than happy to play in almost any meetup game. I can't play 5/10 though cause then I'd owe $1k for breaking my rules, but I could do a 2/5 with an "optional" $10 straddle, which is almost the same thing.

Shame that the thread got locked so fast... it would've been interesting to hear some replies. Fwiw, I don't think my play was by any means great... I just don't think it was as atrocious as people are making it out to be. Maybe I lost like $40 in EV, but I certainly didn't lose $200 in EV.

I'm strongly considering this tbh. First I am seeing if any of my friends are buying Pio too, because we might be able to share a package.

Don't buy PIO. You don't need it at all for 100 cap 2/5 and it's more than likely you will misapply whatever you "learn".

It would mainly be for online 6max games.

How do you plan to travel with your passport stowed away as collateral?

You wouldn´t take the malicious advice of other posters (including me) ITT who have said that the collateral is worthless since you can get a new passport anyway now, would you?

The whole point of me giving my passport to DLuo is to prevent me from running off with the money in secrecy.

I'm sure if I negotiated some terms with him (eg. if I gave the dates of my flight, the country I was flying to and I gave him a large chunk of the money to hold on to, since I wouldn't take the full 20k overseas), then he would be reasonable enough to allow it.

But of course, this would only happen if someone else paid for my flights. I'm not going to be spending my own money on plane tickets because I need to minimise my non-poker related expenses.

Otherwise, you guys can come to Melbourne instead and we can play here.

You can still run off with the money in secrecy even without your passport - that's the whole point. Just report your passport as lost/stolen, get a new one and book a flight to a different country. Very simple.

And then what? Be a fugitive my entire life, just to avoid a 20k debt?

I'd sooner declare bankruptcy than choose this option.

Just pokerstove would be great for OP's game lol.

Why can't you just say "Yeah it was a spew. Lesson learned".

I've done so many incredible stupid things at the poker table but I try to learn from them.

Tough to do in poker (and life for the most part) because the result isn't the determining factor on whether or not it was stupid.

It takes an incredible amount of self reflection and honesty.

FYP.

Everyone makes mistakes, you've just gotta analyse and try to learn from them.

This tweet from Doug Polk seems pretty apt here imo (can't embed, not sure why)

https://twitter.com/DougPolkPoker/st...17672103178241

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Why don’t you answer these questions instead of just guessing at how bad that play was?

I didn't say you had to do that. It's merely an option you have available at your disposal.

20k is a lot of money in many parts of the world. Who said anything about being a fugitive? You could set up a new life in Thailand/SE Asia with your gf. All you need is a bit of courage, willpower and determination to do it.

I already admitted that it was a mistake that probably lost me some EV. I just don't think it was complete spew though, and I justified why I think that it was bad, but not complete spew, in many earlier posts.

Three questions on the AT hand.

1) what range did you put him on (with percentages) when you called?

2) what did you expect him to do on the flop when you called?

3) what range did you put him on (with percentages) when you folded on the flop?

Three questions on the AT hand.

1) Y DID U SPEW?

2) Do you not like money?

3) Why are you defending spew.

It's different to make -ev plays based on incorrect assumptions, then accept you made a mistake and move on. But being in denial is a road to disaster.

I can answer question 2: I expected him to jam pretty much ATC on the flop, so I was looking for favourable flops to stack off on. Any pair or gutshot and I was basically going to go with it.

But I can't answer questions 1 or 3 because no one ever thinks this way on earlier streets.

Like if someone Cbets the flop, are you going to try to look at their entire range of possible hands and try to calculate your overall equity against their range, or are you instead just going to keep things simple and make quick decisions like "alright I'll call this Cbet with any pair, any strong Ace high and any half decent draw"?

Ranges are so wide on earlier streets that I simply can't give you good answers to these questions. Like I don't know the exact frequency that he spazz 4bets a hand like J7s. I know that it's above 0% and probably less than 20%, but I don't know the exact frequency.

I felt like there might be enough spazzes in villain's range to justify calling pre and gii on favourable flops, but I was playing by intuition. There's no realistic way I can ever do any kind of calculations on the spot regarding this.

Even bad opponents think about these types of things.

There aren't many players who just think about their own cards now days. (Still some, but not many)

It was a spew. A complete spew.

Edit: Not down to the percentage, but they are at least thinking about what types of hands you can have.

This is not a good general way to think about poker in my opinion.

Ranges get narrowed because of events during the hand.

You’ve seen this player make two actions this hand (initial raise, and 4-bet).

After the initial raise, your theoretical range that villain can have should be pretty wide.

After a 4-bet, it should be significantly more narrow.

4bet after squeeze live ranges confirmed to be "ALL OVER THE PLACE, IMPOSSIBRU TO COMPUTE".

Just give it up and admit you've never touched equilab or any similar easy calculators. You've never written down a range in your life, you've never done a range vs range equity calculation ever.

Why is everyone here obsessed with flopzilla, equilab and pokersnowie?

Like come on... this is 2018. These programs are obsolete now that we have PioSolver.

Apparently not...

Try out this high tech tool: https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-too...r/texas-holdem

Wow you really are clueless. IF you had ever invested any time in studying the game you would know that the top pros routinely use these tools as well as Pio.

For someone like you, without a sense of your opponents' pre-flop ranges and how your hand/range plays versus theirs, Equilab is far more useful as a tool than Pio for you to get better in the short-term.

Id say there's a non 0% chance that 6m and Mirage are actually the same person and he's constantly just trolling this forum from two different pov's. They are both Australian after all...