Because this is live 1/3 and people don't fold pre flop

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I don’t mind the squeeze with KQo but I think you can size down a little. I wouldn’t expect people play back at you particularly much and picking up $40 rake free is a great outcome. As played it’s a sigh fold obv. Fwiw, given your limited bankroll I think it’s a spot we can just fold as mitigating as much variance as possible should be more of a concern than pushing your edge.

Regarding feeling like you were playing quite disciplined, folding KJo on the button to an UTG open isn’t really disciplined, vpip’ing at all with would be spew imo. You might want to reconsider your ranges in lots of spots if this is a tighter fold for you as you may be VPIP’ing too much across the board. Given the low buyin cap (100bb) you need to play tighter ranges.

Your mental game seems super iffy and needs a lot of work as you’re too concerned with pots that have already happened and it’s affecting your thought process well after it should.

Gl, rooting for you.


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KQ off isnt a bad light 3 bet candidate in a vacuum,and if the circumstances/good premises are there. However in this instance:

1) OPs image is likely losing/frustrated and aggro, making the play less good due to a very likely smaller amount of fold equity and the chances that regs are indeed trapping (exploiting OPs aggro tendencies) with big hands in between- like was the case in this hand where he ran into AA from one of the flatcallers of the first open. Regs and especially older OMC types _loves_ to trap aggro young guys with their aggression, so this is a dynamic OP needs to be aware of.

2) Stacks should preferably be deeper than less than 100 BB when we perform squeezes like this. Because we would want having the treat with alot of money behind, having more playability postflop over multiple streets and so forth.

+ that such plays adds an insane amount of extra variance that OP simply doesent need at this point after ditching his part time job,being on a losing streak with a frustrated mindset and his roll getting closer to "houston we have a problem" territory everyday. Grinding lots of hours,playing rock solid poker with executing very strong fundamentals, and get a winning streak going should be OPs only main goal at the moment+ focusing on getting his food expences down alot.

Bolded exactly.

My normal playing style is LAG and my natural tendency is to come out firing. What I've learned through the years burning many buy-ins to start a session is that maybe it's best to just tap the brakes a bit when starting a new session. Sit back, relax, see how the other players are playing and learn the table dynamics. Information is so important in this game and knowing things like whether Player X has a fold button today could be worth a lot of money.

Your line is really bad. You just have 1 pair with very little possibilities. It's not a hand I would want to put much money in the pot with considering you have no backdoor flush draw or even a backdoor straight draw. Obviously play differs, but where I play in a multiway pot (I realize this particular one is just 3 ways) most of the mediocre regs are only leading this flop with A8+. Some are only leading with 2pair and sets. Of course terrible players could be leading with all sorts of hands like 54 even.

Regardless, in general I'm not looking at this board and thinking "wow, I'm in love with Q8 here" In some ways I'd rather have 86 here, because even though the queen is a nice kicker, the up and down straight draw can help us slither out of a jam when an opponent does have a monster. A8 is a hand I'd love to have here..not only does it fair well against 8x hands but if our opponent does have a monster there still a chance we can pull the old runner runner suckout for his stack trick. Still, A8 is just one pair so it's not like I'd be trying to bloat the pot up with that hand either.

Because they are patient..or rather, because you are not. You've only played 25 minutes right? So less than 2 orbits. It's not unreasonable to think you might not hit the strongest hand in 2 orbits.

Honestly if your plan is to calloff after raising with KQo here then just fold in the first place. I think it's probably in your best interest to just fold regardless, and go after more of the easy money low variance spots...particularly if this is early in the session, 3betting with KQo from OOP doesn't seem like the most well thought out strategy for you to be taking right now.

Good work on those folds. Stick to the plan. Play tight..maybe even nitty. It's better to play too nitty than too loose, especially since you are still in the early stages of learning how to really beat this level. As you gain more knowledge, more confidence, and a larger bankroll then you should begin opening your game up more.

I wouldn't worry too much about this spot. Sure maybe his 3betting range is actually super tight but in general this is just standard stuff. Imagine if he had 88 and held. Or better yet, imagine if he had AQ and hit a queen to win. Those are super standard hands that happen every day and are not a big deal. I can understand it feeling like a big deal considering you already lost a buyin but you can't let it get to you.

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A player who is so nervous about losing that the player's decision-making is negatively impacted.

Sorry for the tilt rant before. In the heat of the moment, these things can be pretty frustrating, but I feel much better now, having been away from the table for a few hours.

I only ended up losing $365 today. I had a few small wins here and there, which helped to mitigate the losses.

So I'm still up $407 since the day I went pro 3 days ago and I've put in 22 hours of play in that time. I guess I'm not really running that bad after all.

I'm actually really happy with myself for being able to walk away from the table when tilted. The old me would've stayed at the table, loosened up significantly, dropped $1k at 1/3, grabbed a few beers and then jumped up to 5/5/10. But I'm better than that now.

Dont be sorry man, its your thread- you can do and write whatever you want.

Also last bolded part is a huge skill to have, so well done in developing on that part. _Huge_ edge if you are able to just stand up and walk away from the table if you know deep down youre not playing well, is tilted or other reasons you shoudnt be sitting at the table.

Learn to have other defence mechanisms when you feel the urge to tilt away, loosen up and play higher. Like get away from the table at all cost at first of course, then go have a beer or 3, go home and go to the gym, go home and watch netflix,get some sleep, go have a burger or whatever you do to steam off away from the table.

Ye don't be sorry about ranting bro, don't be holding back on the entertainment value. let it all out.

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I don't see how the KQo is bad, I mean squeezing is fine for obvious reasons then if dude back raising had 213$ to start the hand with then it becomes very ****in close and probably fine to call against perceived range at the very least

some people replying to you seem to be extremely result oriented and this is annoying to read their attempt at giving advice based on the results of the HH they read

Its not smart to play high variance with limited BR so that's the main point I think they were talking about. Plus Villain is never ever jamming worse. A pro should be putting himself in intelligent plus ev spots, not ******ed ones.

In a vacuum it's fine, but I think you have to realise this is live 1/3 and making these kinds of plays isn't advisable against the pool. Also I'm curious as to what you think villains perceived range is?

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the thing is the squeeze is massively +EV with KQo, then the call is really close if we're effectively getting 2:1, and I haven't seen people mention he should avoid playing high variance, they are straight up saying "this is bad" when it actually is not really bad

I agree he should look to have a lower variance approach as long as he doesn't give up too much EV in most spots

well tbh vs an unknown I'd expect very little AA/KK/QQ, not impossible but very little, more along the line of 88-JJ and maybe AQ and AK, and well you never know could be the occasional spazz some people do out of frustration vs squeezes, I think against this range we have a call if it's 213 - 65 to call which wasn't clear from described HH

Ive played hands like the KQ and the Q8s exactly like that many times. The KQ I sometimes fold and sometimes call after the 3 bet depending on the situation and player.

The Q8s, Id rather raise the flop than call the flop. When you raise the flop and then get a brick or and big overcard on the turn, they will fold quite often on the turn to another bet. This time the guy probably already had a big hand so obviously that wont work but it doesnt mean the play isnt good.

However, on this guys tiny bankroll (and with no reads early in a session) I would not be trying any of this kind of ****. No lite 3 bets, no getting tricky with raising the flop with weak hands. Just ABC semi nitty low variance poker.

he says reg backjams 213$, how is it an extra 213$ if we already have 65 in the pot, if it was remainder of bad reg's stack then it's 225 - 65 meaning it's 160/477

meaning KQo against a range of 55-AA and AQ+ is a slightly +EV call

Except that isn't going to be his shoving range. In 1/3 at Crown, people only 3bet/squeeze with very strong hands. So if someone knows that, they obv aren't shoving wide at all. Also, even if they don't take this into consideration, they are still heavily weighted to AT+ and 99+. I don't know why you think someone is shoving 55 even at this level?

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55 is a better shove than AT....

Neither me or other players care what a 2+2 poster with in depth knowledge means is a good shove or not: we care about what 95 percent of villains actually is shoving at a 1/3 live table.

Its far far more likely that the bad reg (according to OP, i am not so sure) flatted with a strong hand like JJ+ or AQ/AK in order to trap people behind, than villan ever light backshoving babypairs like 55.

For sure, just because 55 might be a better shove than AT doesn't mean a 1/3 player will consider this

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Exactly, this is one of the most common traps 2+2 posters fall into. Convincing themself that the way they look at poker,their thoughtprocess,or what they would do in a certain spot is the reality for their random opponents too.

Projecting their own views onto their opponents.

or you know, assuming that the entire pool of 1/3 plays the same way

Sorry but how is making an exploitative adjustmwnt the same as assuming all players play the same?

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