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05-21-2018 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
OP schooling the rest of us on business politics when the entirety of his professional experience is dropping out of college and delivering pizza for the last four years.

Get your degree dude. It’s the bare minimum requirement to find any type of gainful employment.
This is hilarious.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 05-21-2018 at 05:40 PM. Reason: Removed start of derail.
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05-21-2018 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I cannot abide. Kelvis needs to be banned from this site. He has implied my mother is a whore multiple time. What if it was your mother he was talking about mod? Would you allow him to stay on this site??
I'm not sure who this is supposed to be addressed to. Do you think mods actually read every post in this forum? The only reason why I'm here is because of your multiple post reports (one would have been fine).

But since you asked the question, if he was talking about my mother, I'd realize that he doesn't know me or my mother, and obviously he's just trolling. But that's just me.

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A warning is not sufficient he needs to be permanently banned to promote civility on this site. Please.
Thanks for the suggestion. I think banning him for this thread should be sufficient. If he posts in here again, report his post.

As for promoting civility, I'm glad to hear you're concerned about this, and look forward to you setting an example.

Edit to add: FFS, just realized this isn't Rich's thread. Kelvis, you can post here all you like - just stay out of Rich's thread. And apparently he's sensitive to "mom jokes", so do me a favour and lay off those, wouldya? Thanks!

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 05-21-2018 at 10:05 PM. Reason: Apparently I don't know what thread I'm in. :(
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05-21-2018 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
All I'm reading here is 'my gambling addiction screwed my life, so I'm going to be a professional gambler'.
The thread in a nutshell.
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05-21-2018 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
All I'm reading here is 'my gambling addiction screwed my life, so I'm going to be a professional gambler'.
So it's wrong of me to try to turn a weakness into a strength? It's wrong of me to try to base my career around the things that I'm passionate about?
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05-21-2018 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
So it's wrong of me to try to turn a weakness into a strength? It's wrong of me to try to base my career around the things that I'm passionate about?
Would you recommend a drug addict to becoming a drug dealer? Maybe it works out for you but no 'intelligent' person is going to think it's a good idea you pursuing a professional gambling career when you had gambling problems.
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05-21-2018 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Limited1
Would you recommend a drug addict to becoming a drug dealer? Maybe it works out for you but no 'intelligent' person is going to think it's a good idea you pursuing a professional gambling career when you had gambling problems.
Except being a drug dealer is an objectively bad profession for anyone to pursue, whereas being a professional poker player can be a positive thing.
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05-21-2018 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Except being a drug dealer is an objectively bad profession for anyone to pursue, whereas being a professional poker player can be a positive thing.

OMG the logic here is just so bad it’s almost unbelievable.

Bro, becoming a professional poker player is a bad profession for YOU to pursue. That’s what most of the last 600+ posts are trying to tell you.

You and your girl have champagne dreams and a water budget. And quitting your job just expedited the endgame that much faster.

Can’t wait for the “I went busto and it’s everyone else’s fault” post.



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05-21-2018 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Except being a drug dealer is an objectively bad profession for anyone to pursue, whereas being a professional poker player can be a positive thing.
Should an opioid addict pursue a pharmacy or anesthesiology career?
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05-21-2018 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Should an opioid addict pursue a pharmacy or anesthesiology career?
Depends. Is this opioid addict highly knowledgeable about the science of drugs? Do they know exactly which chemicals separate one drug from another? Are they an intelligent person in general that enjoys studying?

If yes to the above, then sure.
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05-21-2018 , 08:48 PM
So you really think that it's a good idea for an addict to put themselves in a situation where they not only have easy access to their addiction, but to be unable to earn a living without tempting fate daily?
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05-21-2018 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Except being a drug dealer is an objectively bad profession for anyone to pursue, whereas being a professional poker player can be a positive thing.
Can’t beat that variance free income though.
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05-21-2018 , 09:25 PM
Not a great way to get a reference...

So I had a really long 1/3 NL sesh last night which involved me staying at the casino until about 4pm. I left the casino $40 up and very tired. I had a work shift starting at 9pm and I decided to take a nap before work. I set an alarm for 7pm and off to sleep I went... I wake up by myself and I notice it's oddly dark outside. I check my phone and the time says 12:30am and I have 5 missed calls and 7 text messages. F**k.

I slept through the alarm. In my 4 years of working this job, this was only the second shift I had ever skipped without giving prior notice. The fact that this happened immediately after me giving my 2 weeks notice of resignation is really, really bad. It's not a good look at all. I had planned to show up to work early and work especially hard for the next 2 weeks, so that I could end things on a positive note and get some good references, but now I just f**ked up everything.

You know that feeling when you're sitting at a poker table raising 7 hands in a row, doing a lot of 3betting, and people immediately assume that you're just a maniac that raises 90% of hands, when in actuality, you just happened to get premiums 7 hands in a row? People make huge judgements about you based off a small sample size. And I feel that that has happened now. Based off a sample size of 1 shift, they probably now assume that I stopped caring about my job and don't really care if I leave this workplace on a bad note, which isn't true at all.

I immediately called the manager at 12:30am and apologised profusely. I explained everything to him, but I don't know if he believes me. Then I went back to the casino afterwards to play some more 1/3 and blow off some steam.

I played a 7hr session just now and ultimately lost $80. There were a few bad players on the table, but I seemed to constantly miss flops, and I couldn't really Cbet in 4way or 5way pots, so I had to give up a tonne of hands. The only 2 big pots I won involved 3betting AA pre, barreling off my stack and getting called down by junk, and stacking off QJss vs A5hh on an As Tc 9s flop and turning the flush. Otherwise I would've lost a fair bit more if it weren't for those hands.

Got a work shift tonight and I'm just praying to f**king God that I can at least get through these last 9 shifts without anymore problems. Then I can finally relax after that. Life will be easy in 2 weeks.
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05-21-2018 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Except being a drug dealer is an objectively bad profession for anyone to pursue, whereas being a professional poker player can be a positive thing.
By your metrics of success of 100k a year, a drug dealer would earn on average more than professional poker player. I am sure you see the many negatives in being a professional poker player, what do you see as the positive things of being a professional poker player?
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05-21-2018 , 09:41 PM
Mate ...put it into perspective... Who cares about a reference from a pizza job...Kerry Packer does not give a flying F$#k about a reference for your new POKER career. Resumes get you jobs(and you can make up anything you want on them) Time to relax is RIGHT now! Today! Tuesday 22nd May! You quit your dead end job to pursue your poker dream Now go make a Vision board
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05-21-2018 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
OP schooling the rest of us on business politics when the entirety of his professional experience is dropping out of college and delivering pizza for the last four years.

Get your degree dude. It’s the bare minimum requirement to find any type of gainful employment.
nice Johnny
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05-21-2018 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Not a great way to get a reference...

So I had a really long 1/3 NL sesh last night which involved me staying at the casino until about 4pm. I left the casino $40 up and very tired. I had a work shift starting at 9pm and I decided to take a nap before work. I set an alarm for 7pm and off to sleep I went... I wake up by myself and I notice it's oddly dark outside. I check my phone and the time says 12:30am and I have 5 missed calls and 7 text messages. F**k.

I slept through the alarm. In my 4 years of working this job, this was only the second shift I had ever skipped without giving prior notice. The fact that this happened immediately after me giving my 2 weeks notice of resignation is really, really bad. It's not a good look at all. I had planned to show up to work early and work especially hard for the next 2 weeks, so that I could end things on a positive note and get some good references, but now I just f**ked up everything.

You know that feeling when you're sitting at a poker table raising 7 hands in a row, doing a lot of 3betting, and people immediately assume that you're just a maniac that raises 90% of hands, when in actuality, you just happened to get premiums 7 hands in a row? People make huge judgements about you based off a small sample size. And I feel that that has happened now. Based off a sample size of 1 shift, they probably now assume that I stopped caring about my job and don't really care if I leave this workplace on a bad note, which isn't true at all.

I immediately called the manager at 12:30am and apologised profusely. I explained everything to him, but I don't know if he believes me. Then I went back to the casino afterwards to play some more 1/3 and blow off some steam.

I played a 7hr session just now and ultimately lost $80. There were a few bad players on the table, but I seemed to constantly miss flops, and I couldn't really Cbet in 4way or 5way pots, so I had to give up a tonne of hands. The only 2 big pots I won involved 3betting AA pre, barreling off my stack and getting called down by junk, and stacking off QJss vs A5hh on an As Tc 9s flop and turning the flush. Otherwise I would've lost a fair bit more if it weren't for those hands.

Got a work shift tonight and I'm just praying to f**king God that I can at least get through these last 9 shifts without anymore problems. Then I can finally relax after that. Life will be easy in 2 weeks.
Why do you play graveyard poker sessions after work especially when tired and not on your A-game? Is there a reason why you cannot finish work at 1am and go to bed? You could easily squeeze in a poker session before 9pm everyday before work when you are fresh and more likely to be playing your A-game. This shows you have terrible decision making, which is one of the reasons why people are cautioning you against pursuing your 'dream'.
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05-21-2018 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
So you really think that it's a good idea for an addict to put themselves in a situation where they not only have easy access to their addiction, but to be unable to earn a living without tempting fate daily?
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05-21-2018 , 11:33 PM
Good luck OP will be following.
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05-22-2018 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
The thread in a nutshell.
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05-22-2018 , 01:48 AM
1000th post.

Thank you to those who have supported the decisions I made. What's done is done now. I'm not getting my job back and I'm not going back to uni for at least another 2 years, most likely longer.

So I might as well make this work out to the best of my ability. As long as I can get through the next 2 weeks without dropping more than 2k, then there's no reason why this shouldn't work out. The grind will be so much easier once I stabilise my sleeping routine.
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05-22-2018 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
1000th post.

Thank you to those who have supported the decisions I made. What's done is done now. I'm not getting my job back and I'm not going back to uni for at least another 2 years, most likely longer.

So I might as well make this work out to the best of my ability. As long as I can get through the next 2 weeks without dropping more than 2k, then there's no reason why this shouldn't work out. The grind will be so much easier once I stabilise my sleeping routine.
Now i'm not one for setting $$ targets, but when you are beginning your pursuit of poker for a living shouldn't you have a goal that is slightly better than HUGELY negative?

If this is what you are aiming for while playing and working then

1. you dont have the ability, i and hundreds/thousands of others on here work and can play profitably.

2. Dont play until you finish at work completely and save yourself the money?

Oh and by the by, if youre girlfriend cant find full time work for reasonable wages (minimum is more than reasonable in Straya) then it is likely that she has no discernible or marketable skill. Not because of the economy or government or whatever reason. It is HER fault. Always Centrelink i guess though right!

Last edited by cheltNAM; 05-22-2018 at 02:38 AM. Reason: girlfriend stuff
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05-22-2018 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
So in total, I have $9100 to my name.
- $7000 is my bankroll
- $600 is my liferoll
- $1500 is emergency funds if I go bust
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Since the damage of busting my roll is about to become much greater (since I won't have a job anymore), combined with my recent bad beat session at 2/5, I've decided that I'll be playing primarily 1/3 NL. I'm hoping that I can keep my win rate above $20/hr (ideally $30+/hr) and put in at least 36hrs per week of volume (6hrs per day, 6 days per week).

This should allow me to continue to grow my bankroll whilst also living a comfortable life and keeping my risk of ruin fairly low. I'm excited for this new challenge.
Just quoting this so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle. Good luck!
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05-22-2018 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
So it's wrong of me to try to turn a weakness into a strength? It's wrong of me to try to base my career around the things that I'm passionate about?
Let’s take the moral judgement out of this...I don’t know you and I don’t care if you wreck your life. You’re no different from the other fish that know how to play on paper but can’t control themselves and end up inevitably spunking off stacks to people like me. So I don’t say it’s wrong, it’s your choice.

But it is idiotic, no it’s not a good idea for a degenerate to try to be a poker pro, any more than an alcoholic should run a bar or a drug addict hawk smack. It’s delusional to think otherwise.
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05-22-2018 , 04:39 AM
I would've folded KK in this spot

1/3, $700 effective.

Hero is dealt XX
Indian Woman raises $20 UTG (sizing tell: she never usually raises this big. She has to have {TT+, AQ+} at the bare minimum).
Asian Fish calls $20 MP
Hero 3bets $80 BTN
Indian Woman throws out 3 black chips which effectively is a 4bet to $320 (I don't think that this particular player is stacking off 230bbs deep with anything worse than KK)
Asian Fish folds
Hero folds

I've never once folded KK preflop in a live cash game, but I think that this is a situation where I could do it.

Spoiler:
Hero mucks QQ face up
Indian Woman shows KK

Last edited by 6bet me; 05-22-2018 at 04:48 AM.
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05-22-2018 , 04:46 AM
I would fold KK there, you have a read she only 4bets KK and she's in that demographic and we are over 150bb deep.

It's controversial on this site though because plenty of people say you need to be 500bb effective and have 1000+ hours of reads and have a pair of OMCs 3/4/5 betting before you are allowed to pitch the cowboys. I pitched KK twice live, one I am happy with was correct, once was too weak based on stack sizes (was early days playing live) but it turned out he had AA anyway.

I don't like showing your QQ hand.
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