How has the money been playing guitar? I watched a Guy playing buckets on Fremont street a few years ago and he seemed to be raking it in.
Good luck building your roll back up!

I am making between 5 and 30 an hr. So oddly enough it averages out to be about the same as my poker winrate this year with less standard deviation. I am really enjoying it aswell.

I think it's cool that you play guitar on the street.

What's your plan for all of these currencies you collect that you can't use? I don't know anything about how you would get money for these, so that's why I asked. Also don't know why everyone is ragging on Steve. He makes valid points, even if it is harsh. To the guy who said how can you be broke when you've made 22k? LOL pretty easy, especially if you are including money you owed to friends that you paid back, etc...and if you are paying taxes, which is up in the air with poker grinders, it's even easier to be broke off that amount. Sorry, random thoughts. GL as always OP.

A video of you playing on the strip would be the nuts.

+1

I played a short session, not really comfortable playing with my whole roll on the table. Most of my money has been going to bills the last two weeks but now that they are out of the way I'll have a little bit more cash to invest in my bankroll.

Fortunately most people toss American currency. I presume I have shared my music with visitors from around the global which I think is awesome. I'll probably give them to my friend who has a coin collection.

I'll post a clip or two at the beginning of next month.

September 2013

Total hours played- 30.5
Average hourly winrate- $4
Winnings- $107

2013 YTD

hours played- 1301.5
Average hourly winrate- $17
Winnings- $22758

i wouldnt think they could earn anywhere close to that, or id try to learn to play one and do it myself. better than no income at all.

They are starting to take out the blue crutches, everything will be suspended by cables much like the newly opened eastern span of the bay bridge

I played another short session, still just nitting it up. I should be able to save a up a full bi by the weekend.

There are many legal (not to mention illegal) ways to hustle in Vegas without seeking employment. There are people selling water, people selling those flowers weaved from palm leaves. There are people selling rap albums and people selling poetry. Everyone has talents that can be utilized.

If you did want to learn a musical instrament you can find many free lessons in any style you could want to play on YouTube.

September 2013

Total hours played- 33.5
Average hourly winrate- $3
Winnings- $101

2013 YTD

hours played- 1304.5
Average hourly winrate- $17
Winnings- $22752

can i send you like 1-300 go play and take half your action in some cash action this weekend? Let me know I can send via paypal or bank or w/e is easy for you. lmk.

I genuinely appreciate the offer, but I have to decline. I really want to rebound on my own. I have nothing but time and determination. I can come up with enough money to cover my bills and add a little to my bankroll everyday. I'll just keep firing until I gain traction.

I used to be a pessimist but over this last year I really see the positives in every situation and I am an optimist now. I see this as a rare chance where I can empathize with recreational players who have to earn money before they can hit up the poker room. I will not have many opportunities to play with my whole roll on the table and it is really a different game when the money has real immediate value, I enjoy the challenge.

Thanks again for the offer.

I really dig your attitude, man.

GL

Gl Carl...and I think your art is awesome because your art is what has come out of you and I consider you an awesome individual.

The ones who make fun of art are the ones that can't make any art themselves.

Lol...critics.

I made killer hand turkey's in school, though.

I got in a short session, played alright. I'm looking to play a few 6 hr long sessions this weekend.

September 2013

Total hours played- 36.5
Average hourly winrate- $6
Winnings- $228

2013 YTD

hours played- 1307.5
Average hourly winrate- $17
Winnings- $22877

Thanks.





You are awesome aswell, you are on course to accomplish great things.

I create what I feel like if some people don't like it no big deal.


Haha I remember those.

I degened almost my whole roll in a $100/$200 game a few years ago. Every pot meant a lot to me, it really was pretty cool until I obv went bust. You get a nice rush playing, just don't get used to it.

A+

Whole bankroll on the table playing 100/200 is much different than whole bankroll on the table playing 1/2.

Mike Caro has said big bankrolls should be protected. On the other hand small bankrolls that can easily be replaced do not need the same care.

I will practice better bankroll management once I have a few K saved up. I'll make sure my spending habits are in check as well.

I don't particularly like the feeling of having my whole bankroll on the table but it is an interesting experience and this might be the last time in my life that I am completely broke.

Yes, I wouldn't advise it as a general strategy, but I think it's good for most people to experience. Going broke and struggling to get back on your feet builds character while teaching you about BRM the hard way. I was much better for it and I don't regret any of my reckless BRM behavior in poker. You'll be better for it too.

I hope its not a leak that I never expect to go broke or have my entire br on the table .

jokes aside, I do see where your coming from and the value it will have on your future to be in this situation as long as you learn a lot from it.

Got in another short session. My first time buying in for the max in awhile, managed to a little more than double it with a couple hands. I started off with less than Macklemore had in his pocket a week ago, Bankroll is up to $670.

My buddy Ryan called me up tonight, he probably thought of me because he was on his way to play the famously crazy deep 1/2 5 to go NL game at the Palace in Hayward. He has to turn himself in on the 18th of next month. So I'm going to work hard and should be able to come up with a couple hundred for a plane ticket to see him before he goes away to do his time.

I've got a couple more Ryan stories to share when I get around to it.

I agree. I definitely feel it is a great life experience and good learning experience.


I think a better way to look at it is you have to take care of your leaks otherwise you will end up broke.

September 2013

Total hours played- 37.5
Average hourly winrate- $15
Winnings- $575

2013 YTD

hours played- 1308.5
Average hourly winrate- $18
Winnings- $23224

Met up with LotGrinder at the Shoe in Cincy last night after I was done with day 1a of the main and we grabbed a bite a Bobby Flay's burger joint.....and guess what? We started talkin about pure_aggression. He said I was too hard on him. I agree...I was a little harsh. That's just me. I'm a rough bastard. I have a lawncare company. I drink bourbon. I dip. I rarely shave. That's just me. So, sorry.

Don't be a freakin hobo, though...and please reconsider the stake offering. We also discussed that. I used to think that refusing a little financial aid made me a bigger man or something too...it doesn't.

*Also, isn't it kinda funny how there's a full circle of poker bums like ourselves that somehow end up meetin up all because of this site and the goofy game? From Vegas to Detroit to Cincy. Pretty cool.

I definitely saw Carl mention that networking is a skill set/important part of life somewhere in this thread and he has networked well within the poker community. So, if he took a stake imo it would just be using one of his talents to get funds to make money in a game he's demonstrated that he can beat.

And yes I definitely said Pure_Aggression needs to get back at a 1/2 table asap, but it's choice on whether or not to accept a stake.

Gl Carl.

This thread is hard for me to read

I planned on playing 6 hrs but cut it a little short. I had a couple interesting hands come up tonight.

Hand 1:

V1 (106)- 35 yo asain male, loose
V2 (900)- 40 yo white female, loose passive pre and postflop
Hero's Image (276)- 25 yo sat down for 2 rounds and haven't played a hand

Preflop (3):
Hero is UTG dealt AQ Hero opens for 8, V1 calls from LP, V2 calls from BB.

Flop (23):
AQ3
Hero bets 8, V1 calls, V2 calls.

Turn (45):
K
Hero bets 25, V1 calls, V2 c/r to 90, Hero tanks forever and I get the clock called on me, I really consider folding but and decide to call, V1 calls and is all in.

Only real hand I beat is A3, KQ, K3, I lose to AK, 33, JT

V2 tells the dealer "low red card"

River (315):
9
V2 shoves for 170 effective, Hero gets the clock called on him again, don't take as long this time and fold.



Hand 2:

V1 (500)- 30 yo asian male, loose preflop, have seen him blf miss draws, also saw him make a loose river call.
V2 (500)- 30 yo asian male, aggressive not overly loose or tight
V3 (200)- 50 yo asian lady, loose passive preflop, opening sizing is large when she does pfr
V4 (400)- 30 to white guy, tight straight forward
Hero's Image (240)- 25 yo playing pretty tight, squeezed a couple times but haven't gone to sd

Preflop (3):
Hero is BTN dealt AJ V1-V4 limp, Hero raises to 14, V1-V4 call.

Flop (69):
QT8
V1-V4 check, Hero bets 50, V1 c/r 150, V2-V4 fold, Hero calls, I figure this is about a breakeven spot so I probably should have folded.

V1 shoves dark.

Turn (369):
7
Hero calls 76

River (521):
2

I stoved it, I only have 29% equity vs sets, 2ps, 1 combo of Kx I need 33% equity to commit on this flop so turns out to be a pretty big mistake. Also I guess I could have checked behind instead of cbet.



No need to apologize over being too harsh. You are entitled to your opinion, I agree with some of the stuff you said and disagree with some of the stuff you said. I've been through the military, I've been through jail. There's not a chance in hell I get my panties in a bunch over anything someone posts on 2+2.

2+2 is quite the phenomenon, who would think that there would be an internet forum for 250000 degens to congregate.


As Kydd has said this will build character. The main qualities I am instilling in myself are independence, perseverance, and mental toughness.

I think this thread is a good contrast to a thread such as Matt Moore's for all the poker players who are thinking of quitting their job and playing poker for their main income. I just think it is another realistic perspective on the life of a grinder. Of course he is undoubtedly a much better player than me. He started out with 10k, I've never had 10k to my name.

I'll mention my plan again. I can earn enough playing my guitar to cover my bills and save a little each day to put into my bankroll. If I am out of action for a few days big whoop. I've played over 4K hrs of poker the last few yrs. It's not going to kill me to be out of the action temporarily. Whenever I am ready there are a plethora of games running 24/7 down the street from my place.

I've been meaning to post some stats as far as my winrates before and after my 6 month coaching/staking arrangement with Kydd. We can do a little side by side comparison. I'll try and get to that tomorrow.


In what way?

September 2013

Total hours played- 41
Average hourly winrate- $4
Winnings- $169

2013 YTD

hours played- 1312
Average hourly winrate- $17
Winnings- $22818