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09-18-2013 , 10:09 AM
his perspective (like all peoples), is different than anyone else's. It is his version of reality

to him it is not delusional.

doesn't make him a bad person, or someone who is mean

just someone who is scared.

trolls live under bridges for a reason
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09-18-2013 , 01:07 PM
Pure, your art work is out of control awesome. Did the dates of the LV art fest pass? Curious as to how it went/let us know how it goes when it passes.

You seem like a super generous person, which will come back to you. You will always see a return on that. poker? not always. stay kind my friend.

And keep working playing guitar. now that you mention that youve been playing on the streets, I may have seen you play in August. I know its soul-less, but I hear the cover bands out there kill. think about taking that up for a summer or so. I'm sure it would be a quick 2-3k to revive the br.
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09-18-2013 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
his perspective (like all peoples), is different than anyone else's. It is his version of reality

to him it is not delusional.

doesn't make him a bad person, or someone who is mean

just someone who is scared.

trolls live under bridges for a reason
Shouldn't you be fapping?
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09-18-2013 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
Life is not serious

You don't see a lot of men because you are not one.
Says the guy who has been having a massive embarassing breakdown over the last couple days.

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Originally Posted by trob888
+1

stevesmith you are deluded beyond repair, just let it go
You my friend are deluded. Im with stevesmith all the way on this one.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
Cant shine till you grind
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09-18-2013 , 08:55 PM
I'm not embarassed about anything and neither is Pure

Why should we be?

We live our lives the way that we want to, not the way other people tell us to.

Carl isn't unhappy doing what he is now doing, and even if he was, it is his choice!

Poker isn't the only thing this world has ya know
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09-18-2013 , 09:06 PM
if it were true someone could make good money sitting in an area full of people playing a musical instrument id go out and do it if i knew how to play a musical instrument. But just like panhandlers those people dont make much and just like panhandlers, get told they have to move along. Im happy just grinding on Bovada since i cant afford to play live poker either with such a low roll. at least on bovada im steadily winning. How much did u actually make playing music? and i mean on a bad or average day, not a way above average day.

the best game in town for those with NO roll to speak of is $20 NL 50c-1 blinds at club fortune. their $1-6 spread limit game is also $1.50 per orbit in blinds instead of $3 per orbit as most spread limit games, saving u a lot when on a short roll.

how is it possible to make over $22k this year and yet be broke? i only made about $3k this year, played very little poker, been too broke, but id certainly would have no problems affording a place to live and money to buyin at NL if id won all that over the year. or if i had friends to live with for free and just sit on the computer, learning to improve my game and stake me, as u had for so long.
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09-18-2013 , 09:12 PM
but he isn't you

why are you comparing him to yourself?

what are you attempting to accomplish?
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09-18-2013 , 09:26 PM
Dont know who is more delusional ITT, stevesmith or dhcg?
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09-18-2013 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
but he isn't you

why are you comparing him to yourself?

what are you attempting to accomplish?
the hate some guys are giving him, is NOTHING compared to the hate some people give me on my blog and on another website. what im saying is he is lucky to have so many supporters and friends, who respect his desire to want to be as good at possible and succeed. i do too, but people just dont see it, and yet ive been doing it way more years. and i feel a lot of that hate is undeserved because i obviously manage money far better to not have gone broke as little as i won this year, yet still have over $600 cash and about $150 on bovada. But a lot of those who hate me claim its because i wasted money foolishly on other games besides poker which i dont feel is a problem your friend has.

But dont claim we arent alike. we are in a way, neither one of us would ever consider giving up the idea of playing poker for a living and both of us have shown success at it and with a bankroll, we could both do rather well at it. Hes been lucky to have friends like u take him in and stake him. ive never had a large longterm loan or stake, all mine were pretty small in nature and short term, like 1-2 buyins and settled up immediately after the game ended. if i wouldve had that opportunity, id be a success by now and wouldnt be getting so much hate on my blog. i dont know if uve even read it but ud find it interesting.

im just wondering whats the best way to get money together outside of poker, so was curious if hes having any luck with the music is all.

to be honest i think the reason i get all that hate is due to my aspergers, and my upbringing, a lot of people just give me **** due to my beliefs and they are blinded by that, and are unable to see that im good at poker due to it. ur friend is far more liberal and cool and thats why he dont get all the hate i get. But to claim hes not like me in his passion for poker and to achieve success regardless of how many say dont play, is not true at all
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09-18-2013 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
the hate some guys are giving him, is NOTHING compared to the hate some people give me on my blog and on another website. what im saying is he is lucky to have so many supporters and friends, who respect his desire to want to be as good at possible and succeed. i do too, but people just dont see it, and yet ive been doing it way more years. and i feel a lot of that hate is undeserved because i obviously manage money far better to not have gone broke as little as i won this year, yet still have over $600 cash and about $150 on bovada. But a lot of those who hate me claim its because i wasted money foolishly on other games besides poker which i dont feel is a problem your friend has.

But dont claim we arent alike. we are in a way, neither one of us would ever consider giving up the idea of playing poker for a living and both of us have shown success at it and with a bankroll, we could both do rather well at it. Hes been lucky to have friends like u take him in and stake him. ive never had a large longterm loan or stake, all mine were pretty small in nature and short term, like 1-2 buyins and settled up immediately after the game ended. if i wouldve had that opportunity, id be a success by now and wouldnt be getting so much hate on my blog. i dont know if uve even read it but ud find it interesting.

im just wondering whats the best way to get money together outside of poker, so was curious if hes having any luck with the music is all.

to be honest i think the reason i get all that hate is due to my aspergers, and my upbringing, a lot of people just give me **** due to my beliefs and they are blinded by that, and are unable to see that im good at poker due to it. ur friend is far more liberal and cool and thats why he dont get all the hate i get. But to claim hes not like me in his passion for poker and to achieve success regardless of how many say dont play, is not true at all
The above highlighted above which is not a claim, you blog about it yourself plus the fact that you abandoned your own child to live a life of degeneracy is why you get so much hate and Pure does not. He's young, he's taking a shot and he has far less life responsibility than you.

If Pure keeps at it he will make it. If he needs and wants it at some point I'm sure he could get another long term stake deal. You on the other hand are a COMPLETELY different story and a very sad one at that.

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09-18-2013 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by serio562
Dont know who is more delusional ITT, stevesmith or dhcg?
Hahaha. Um, ok. I have my own business and actually earn a living. I live in reality. Mortgage, bills, kids. etc. The other guy is a nutjob. I'm not sure why you're confused here.

I was really trying to help. I was trying to inject some tough love....obviously, that's not wanted here.
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09-18-2013 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike_The_Mad
The above highlighted above which is not a claim, you blog about it yourself plus the fact that you abandoned your own child to live a life of degeneracy is why you get so much hate and Pure does not. He's young, he's taking a shot and he has far less life responsibility than you.

If Pure keeps at it he will make it. If he needs and wants it at some point I'm sure he could get another long term stake deal. You on the other hand are a COMPLETELY different story.
i never had control over my son, hes lived with my mother all his life, never with me. ive no more abondoned him than his mother has, yet she dont get any of the hate, just me. ive seen him more than she has. shes still in the group home in OH. but he is 21 now so thats a moot issue.

why is it not considered wrong for a man to take a woman to an abortion clinic, kill the child using a procedure causing great pain, but it is considered wrong to allow the child to be born but have little contact with him? i had NONE with my dad, he died when i was one. Grew up alone with mom so never considered a man around the house as a big deal, or something that was needed. God would see things the other way and killing the child a far bigger sin. Im sure Pure has had sex with women before and the only reason he dont have a child is probably they had an abortion.

so as u see, its my political beliefs on this issue, that make everyone hate me. not my poker skills at all. my poker skills are not debatable, its obv i am a winning player longterm.

age dont matter, i have no more responsibilities than he does, to think that my age should make a difference is laughable. Like i said hes lucky hes got friends to stake him, but thats not because of his poker skills compared to mine, its because hes cool with the far out of the mainstream radical leftwing ungodly athiest people who frequent these poker sites, who arent even close to representing the general population. go to a small town in the midwest if u want the opinion of the general population of the usa and stay out of anything controlled and frequented by those who arent deeply religious. otherwise u will not get an unbiased opinion
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09-18-2013 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stevesmith1980
Let's talk about "unbalanced." Define "unbalanced."

I'm not sure a lot of people who start these threads know what that actually means in relation to the real world.

In the real world you go to work and you earn a wage. You've "worked" 30 hours this month in 2 1/2 weeks. It's not a mystery why you're broke. And to top it all off you keep taking vacations. THAT'S UNBALANCED.

I'm not sure why the majority of you young guys are so averse to work. Why can't you just play a schedule that looks something like this.....

M - 9am-5pm
T - 9am-5pm
W - 9am-5pm
T - off day
F - 5pm-1am
S - 5pm-1am
S - off day

40 hours a week x 17hr (your winrate) = $680 a week

This leaves you with plenty of money to live and plenty of time to "balance" (whatever the hell that even means).

This is the real world. This is life. And just like in real life; the harder you work and the more you succeed; the better the rewards. That's all their is to it. Not really a big mystery IMO.
Playing 9 a.m.-5 p.m. M-W can't possibly be a good choice.
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09-19-2013 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by IbelieveinChipKelly
Playing 9 a.m.-5 p.m. M-W can't possibly be a good choice.
punish fit or fold nit regs and the occasional tourist, not the most exciting poker but so easy and low variance, print money, rub on titties.
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09-19-2013 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stevesmith1980
Hahaha. Um, ok. I have my own business and actually earn a living. I live in reality. Mortgage, bills, kids. etc. The other guy is a nutjob. I'm not sure why you're confused here.

I was really trying to help. I was trying to inject some tough love....obviously, that's not wanted here.
yeah DHCG confirmed bat **** crazy. and if he doesnt like what i have to say then he can have KYDD go rub his head some more
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09-19-2013 , 12:54 AM
If your going to play 9-5 play like 4am - 12 instead. Actually just play evenings.
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09-19-2013 , 12:59 AM
Yea I would say 4pm-12am is a pretty good schedule during the week and something like 8pm-4am Friday-Saturday or obvious reasons
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09-19-2013 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
If your going to play 9-5 play like 4am - 12 instead. Actually just play evenings.
No need to take my schedule as gospel. I was just trying to say to put those hours in. Have a "shift." 1st, 2nd, 3rd....just like most folks. It's not hard. A lot of young guys seem to make it harder than it is. IT IS NOT HARD AT ALL. GROW THE F UP.

That's all I'm sayin.
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09-19-2013 , 09:45 AM
Would all the idiots that have filled the last three pages with their selfish nonsense mind staying out of this thread?
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09-19-2013 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stevesmith1980
No need to take my schedule as gospel. I was just trying to say to put those hours in. Have a "shift." 1st, 2nd, 3rd....just like most folks. It's not hard. A lot of young guys seem to make it harder than it is. IT IS NOT HARD AT ALL. GROW THE F UP.

That's all I'm sayin.
You made your point; now be done with it.
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09-20-2013 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by stevesmith1980
No need to take my schedule as gospel. I was just trying to say to put those hours in. Have a "shift." 1st, 2nd, 3rd....just like most folks. It's not hard. A lot of young guys seem to make it harder than it is. IT IS NOT HARD AT ALL. GROW THE F UP.

That's all I'm sayin.
Kids these days *shakes fist*

Can this thread please get back to cool pics, hand histories and life stories? It's getting a bit too looney/trolly/pointless-internet-feud-ey around these parts for my liking. Thanks.
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09-21-2013 , 12:58 AM
Stevesmith1980 makes me want to be a better man (In Jack Nicholson's voice from as good as it gets.)

Steve you sound like a guy who just "grew up", like just the other day. Move on dude, start your own thread where you can attempt to discredit Pure, his ideals, and motives in life.You can rant and rave all you want there. You have said your piece and the time for you in this thread has passed as you continually fail to provide anything constructive. I am shutting you down.

Pure please proceed with YOUR thread. It has been informative, in many ways, and entertaining. Keep doing your thing. The world needs more folks like you who don't buy in to the BS that other folks champion.
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09-22-2013 , 08:10 AM
Some more foreign currency from New Zealand, Norway, Malaysia, and Israel



Still on hiatus from poker, it feels refreshing to take an extended break even though I check 2+2 daily out of habit, I am the epitome of the song messageboard grinder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHZs...e_gdata_player

I think I will be able to play much better after taking this time away from the tables. I plan to save up a little more cash then take a shot this Monday. The rainy weather is gone, the temperatures are starting to drop a bit it is actually get a little chilly at night. I have been out playing my guitar everyday. My arms and fingers are building up some stamina, I can play 4 hrs now.

I had my first run in with the cops the other night. I was playing in front of the guts of Bill's. Eight LV metro officers come and tell me I can't have an amp (I play through a tiny battery powered amp) or a chord. I would think they have bigger fish to fry but I guess not. I had coicendentally checked the time and had decided to leave within 5 minutes right before they showed up so I was not tilted at all. It brings back memories of my high school days, band practice at my friend's garage we had the cops called on us countless times haha.

Anyhow I'll keep playing on the Strip and I doubt it will be a persistant problem but we'll see. I've had bike cops stop and watch me play for a while and not say anything. I have played Freemont street and security said I was fine as long as I'm 200 ft from the stage when bands play there.

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Originally Posted by danconner
Pure, your art work is out of control awesome. Did the dates of the LV art fest pass? Curious as to how it went/let us know how it goes when it passes.

You seem like a super generous person, which will come back to you. You will always see a return on that. poker? not always. stay kind my friend.

And keep working playing guitar. now that you mention that youve been playing on the streets, I may have seen you play in August. I know its soul-less, but I hear the cover bands out there kill. think about taking that up for a summer or so. I'm sure it would be a quick 2-3k to revive the br.
Thanks for the compliment. Thanks for the tip on the cover band idea.

I'll be exhibiting about 50 or 60 of my paintings here on October 4. First Friday is held monthly on the first Friday of every month, very easy to remember.

www.firstfridaylasvegas.com

I'll be participating as a chalk artist here on October 12th

www.summerlin.com/art-festival

I highly recommend both events if any of you happen to be in LV during this time.

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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
the hate some guys are giving him, is NOTHING compared to the hate some people give me on my blog and on another website. what im saying is he is lucky to have so many supporters and friends, who respect his desire to want to be as good at possible and succeed. i do too, but people just dont see it, and yet ive been doing it way more years. and i feel a lot of that hate is undeserved because i obviously manage money far better to not have gone broke as little as i won this year, yet still have over $600 cash and about $150 on bovada. But a lot of those who hate me claim its because i wasted money foolishly on other games besides poker which i dont feel is a problem your friend has.

But dont claim we arent alike. we are in a way, neither one of us would ever consider giving up the idea of playing poker for a living and both of us have shown success at it and with a bankroll, we could both do rather well at it. Hes been lucky to have friends like u take him in and stake him. ive never had a large longterm loan or stake, all mine were pretty small in nature and short term, like 1-2 buyins and settled up immediately after the game ended. if i wouldve had that opportunity, id be a success by now and wouldnt be getting so much hate on my blog. i dont know if uve even read it but ud find it interesting.

im just wondering whats the best way to get money together outside of poker, so was curious if hes having any luck with the music is all.

to be honest i think the reason i get all that hate is due to my aspergers, and my upbringing, a lot of people just give me **** due to my beliefs and they are blinded by that, and are unable to see that im good at poker due to it. ur friend is far more liberal and cool and thats why he dont get all the hate i get. But to claim hes not like me in his passion for poker and to achieve success regardless of how many say dont play, is not true at all

i never had control over my son, hes lived with my mother all his life, never with me. ive no more abondoned him than his mother has, yet she dont get any of the hate, just me. ive seen him more than she has. shes still in the group home in OH. but he is 21 now so thats a moot issue.

why is it not considered wrong for a man to take a woman to an abortion clinic, kill the child using a procedure causing great pain, but it is considered wrong to allow the child to be born but have little contact with him? i had NONE with my dad, he died when i was one. Grew up alone with mom so never considered a man around the house as a big deal, or something that was needed. God would see things the other way and killing the child a far bigger sin. Im sure Pure has had sex with women before and the only reason he dont have a child is probably they had an abortion.

so as u see, its my political beliefs on this issue, that make everyone hate me. not my poker skills at all. my poker skills are not debatable, its obv i am a winning player longterm.

age dont matter, i have no more responsibilities than he does, to think that my age should make a difference is laughable. Like i said hes lucky hes got friends to stake him, but thats not because of his poker skills compared to mine, its because hes cool with the far out of the mainstream radical leftwing ungodly athiest people who frequent these poker sites, who arent even close to representing the general population. go to a small town in the midwest if u want the opinion of the general population of the usa and stay out of anything controlled and frequented by those who arent deeply religious. otherwise u will not get an unbiased opinion
When I found your blog yrs ago I found it intriguing. I respect that fact that you have been on the grind for so long. You are obviously a consistent winner no denying that. You also seem to be a superior bankroll manager, props. As for all your "haters", nobody can be the judge of you besides yourself so take their words with a grain of salt.

I think we are alike in some ways. But I have never said I wouldn't ever give up playing poker for a living. It just so happens I have made more money playing poker than at any other job I've had. I have said I don't forsee myself playing poker professionally for 20+ yrs, I believe I will eventually move on to something else and will play less frequently.

Come on, I know you are smarter than to assume everyone who doesn't have children have all had abortions. There are a variety of forms of readily available, reliable contraception. I use a condom everytime I get laid, I know I can't handle the responsiblities of fatherhood at this point in my life. If something should go wrong there is the morning after pill.

I try to be easy going, I get along with pretty much everyone. I will agree I was fortunate to make friends from 2+2 that graciously helped me in tough times. If you would be slightly less abrasive and worked on your social skills I am sure you would find the same opportunities I was given. Referring to everyone on 2+2 as "mainstream radical leftwing ungodly athiest people" is not the kind of stuff you say if you want to network and make friends who will help you if you need it.


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Originally Posted by firefoxmaz11
punish fit or fold nit regs and the occasional tourist, not the most exciting poker but so easy and low variance, print money, rub on titties.
Morning games suck, I am not going to battle the nits. Nits are usually winning players or lose very little. Subtract rake and there is very little reason to play with them. (I don't mind 1 or 2 on my immediate left that will surrender the btn often) The majority of money injected into the poker economy comes from loose stations and people who bluff off their whole stack.


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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
If your going to play 9-5 play like 4am - 12 instead. Actually just play evenings.
Evening and early morning is undoubtedly the best time to play. This is when the highest ratio recreational players to serious players occurs.


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Originally Posted by Turntup74
Yea I would say 4pm-12am is a pretty good schedule during the week and something like 8pm-4am Friday-Saturday or obvious reasons
Sounds about right.


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Originally Posted by stevesmith1980
No need to take my schedule as gospel. I was just trying to say to put those hours in. Have a "shift." 1st, 2nd, 3rd....just like most folks. It's not hard. A lot of young guys seem to make it harder than it is. IT IS NOT HARD AT ALL. GROW THE F UP.

That's all I'm sayin.
Point taken.


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Originally Posted by bortron5000
Kids these days *shakes fist*

Can this thread please get back to cool pics, hand histories and life stories? It's getting a bit too looney/trolly/pointless-internet-feud-ey around these parts for my liking. Thanks.
More HHs + stories coming soon. Hopefully less drama.


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Originally Posted by ZombieApoc21
Stevesmith1980 makes me want to be a better man (In Jack Nicholson's voice from as good as it gets.)

Steve you sound like a guy who just "grew up", like just the other day. Move on dude, start your own thread where you can attempt to discredit Pure, his ideals, and motives in life.You can rant and rave all you want there. You have said your piece and the time for you in this thread has passed as you continually fail to provide anything constructive. I am shutting you down.

Pure please proceed with YOUR thread. It has been informative, in many ways, and entertaining. Keep doing your thing. The world needs more folks like you who don't buy in to the BS that other folks champion.
Thanks things should be getting back on track.

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09-22-2013 , 08:27 AM
JFC, 8 cops! Vegas piggies roll deep, lol.
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09-22-2013 , 08:29 AM
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JFC, 8 cops! Vegas piggies roll deep, lol.
I know, they must have seen I was wearing a Slayer T-shirt and called for backup. Slayer fans are notoriously psycho.
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