Or get fired (wrongfully or rightfully). Or get ill. Or the company goes bankrupt.
Don't worry about the future. Try to live in the moment. Mindfulness can reduce stress and improve well being.
you can just find another job w similar pay, gl finding a decent job when you are 31, and have been playing poker for the last 10 years and have 0 experience and 0 skills outside of poker.
Bolded might be the worst advice of all time, and is a quick way to poverty.
Stop the presses, Tadoe wins the internet! Everything you say is absolutely spot on, thank you for that
well its not is it. Online Poker wont be around for ever. Delusional to think so. Playing live for a living is worse than deskjob. And unless you suddenly become a genius (which i doubt you will), compared to your lifespan, its going to be very very quick until youre a busto **** reg with no money/experience. infact, you aint too far of it now (seeems close)
Oh and most people who care about vpp's so much often dont end up getting very far and theres couple of regs i know whos been stuck at 100nl for 5 years because of this.
SiD is right. i play much higher than you and im worried whats going to happen just after 2016. TCfromUB said he wants to be out in a year or two because how things are shaping up.
Why are you so bothered SID? For someone who couldn't care less you do an awful lot of caring atm.....
I said i didnt care about Gazzy's future, which is true. I am in a much better position then Gazzy and i am infinitely more worried about my future then Gazzy is about his, and i was curious to see if he, or someone can explain to me why my fears are irrational. I would love for the latter to be untrue, but from everything that has been posted, my beliefs have not changed.
At 31 and have 0 skills from playing poker, you would probably not get a decent job and will have to start from the bottom, taking a min wage job if you need it. Assuming there was no studying or education.
Sorry guys but I don't wanna talk about it any more, it's effectively an argument about the future of online poker. Please don't worry about me or my future, I will be fine! And please stop talking about it.
Booked up me and the burd to go to Faro in Portugal on 31st Jan for a few days. Gives me something to work towards and then I can chill for a few days and get back to normal in Feb!
WORD UP HAP HAZARD, positive thinking is the only way to succeed in life. and Gaz f*ck em they can say what they want just dont listen, go for your dreams do what yall wanna do.
Well looks like I'm a different person, but I come from different environment too, I'm not scared of nothing, I don't over think, I don't give a fk what's going on in 10-20-30 years, damn I rather die in a heist gone wrong than live to be 70 years old average joe reading newspaper in my apartment with my old ass dog and drinking tea.. but whatever u can think and say what yall want and do what yall want idgaf never have never will. im out too
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Yeah, it is pretty much pointless to argue about that topic. Everyone is different. Some prefer to blow their wage at the 1st of the month and not care about tomorrow, some won't spend anything more than absolutely neccessary and miss living today; most are somewhere in the middle.
Living situations are different too, most importantly the options you have besides playing poker. If you are 25 and have a university degree that can get you a job with a high expected future income the situation is much different than if you are 50 and have no degree of any sort.
That being said, i myself (living in an expensive european country; prospects of having a decent job in a few years; won't emigrate bc/ of having a family) would get as much education as i can besides playing poker. This might be totally different for others though, especially for many of the russian grinders that probably won't make 50k a year after university.
Im in a similar position to gazzy, playing micros/smallstakes for the last x years and not having an education or plan B. And im with SID here, genuinely worried about my future. Like most grinders say, online poker is a bubble and it is slowly dying to a point where it isnt worth playing anymore.
Personally, im going to give it 2 more years max and if i cant move up and start saving some money in that time, im gonna quit and go get an education. And the min wage is 300€ in my country too, so u can ball it up playing just the micros.
I spent a long time working as a recruiter/head hunter in the UK. I live in Newcastle but I covered Scotland too and most of the North of England.
The opinions that most of you guys have about Gaz having no chance of getting a job are pretty far off the mark. You guys are painting a picture as if Gaz will walk into company X and be like 'sup bros. I played 50nl for a living for the past couple of years, have no skills and qualifications but can I have a LOLDESKJOB pretty please?'
In actuality it doesn't work like that. There are many 'creative' ways to enable yourself to appear to be more desirable when applying for jobs. You just have to seek solid advice and paint a good picture of yourself.
One example is that I'm sure Gaz knows someone who would write him a reference to say he did periods of work for him/her. Yes this is underhanded but it's not like Gaz is gonna get a job as a surgeon and operate on our relatives. 1/1,000,000 people could blag their way into such a position.
I don't know Gaz personally, but he's clearly not a complete and utter moron. I have seen some of the most ridiculous people get the most amazing jobs/opportunities because of their ability to paint a good picture; right from their CV to their interview technique and subsequently their ability to learn quickly and do a good job.
I'm a prime example. I left uni with a 2:1 in finance from an awful uni. Worked in recruitment and dicked about for a bit. I now work as a financial analyst for the biggest accountancy firm in the world. It's only because I knew the right people and presented myself well (+ a little bit of luck)
Overall Gaz is happy in what he's doing and you guys are implying that he's doomed for life and is a complete moron.
Also with poker there's the possibility that Gaz can just have a massive breakthrough and become a high stakes crushing beast. However unlikely, it's why most of us play.
Cliffs;
- not as hard to get a job in the UK as you all make out.
- Gaz is happy.
- poker has ok possibilities
I spent a long time working as a recruiter/head hunter in the UK. I live in Newcastle but I covered Scotland too and most of the North of England.
The opinions that most of you guys have about Gaz having no chance of getting a job are pretty far off the mark. You guys are painting a picture as if Gaz will walk into company X and be like 'sup bros. I played 50nl for a living for the past couple of years, have no skills and qualifications but can I have a LOLDESKJOB pretty please?'
In actuality it doesn't work like that. There are many 'creative' ways to enable yourself to appear to be more desirable when applying for jobs. You just have to seek solid advice and paint a good picture of yourself.
One example is that I'm sure Gaz knows someone who would write him a reference to say he did periods of work for him/her. Yes this is underhanded but it's not like Gaz is gonna get a job as a surgeon and operate on our relatives. 1/1,000,000 people could blag their way into such a position.
I don't know Gaz personally, but he's clearly not a complete and utter moron. I have seen some of the most ridiculous people get the most amazing jobs/opportunities because of their ability to paint a good picture; right from their CV to their interview technique and subsequently their ability to learn quickly and do a good job.
I'm a prime example. I left uni with a 2:1 in finance from an awful uni. Worked in recruitment and dicked about for a bit. I now work as a financial analyst for the biggest accountancy firm in the world. It's only because I knew the right people and presented myself well (+ a little bit of luck)
Overall Gaz is happy in what he's doing and you guys are implying that he's doomed for life and is a complete moron.
Also with poker there's the possibility that Gaz can just have a massive breakthrough and become a high stakes crushing beast. However unlikely, it's why most of us play.
Cliffs;
- not as hard to get a job in the UK as you all make out.
- Gaz is happy.
- poker has ok possibilities
Not disputing anything that you said but this whole thing came about because gazzy said he will never work a desk job in his life again. No one is doubting his ability to get a job if he had too, SID just questioned how he was so sure on this matter.
Not disputing anything that you said but this whole thing came about because gazzy said he will never work a desk job in his life again. No one is doubting his ability to get a job if he had too, SID just questioned how he was so sure on this matter.
Ah ok fair enough.
I guess my points stand and it definitely was implied that it'd be very difficult for Gaz to obtain employment.
I did miss the bit however where Gaz said he'd never work a job again.
C'mon guys pls stop talking about it, I made an offhanded comment about my reluctance to go back to grinding a desk (there are other jobs out there that don't require a desk you know) and it has escalated into life stories and banishment for SID, pls let it go. Although CLS's summary is spot on, if I don't make it to the nosebleeds by 2016 I'll still be okay
Done for the day, same as yesterday just not feeling the grind. OTOH 6/6 winning days!
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 3
UTG raises to $1.50, MP folds, CO calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB folds, BB raises to $7.75, UTG calls $6.25, CO calls $6.25, Hero calls $6.25
Flop: ($31.25) A T A (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($31.25) 3 (4 players)
BB bets $15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $49.86 and is all-in, BB folds
Spoiler:
Results: $61.25 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: A T A 3
Hero mucked 3 3 and won $58.75 ($36 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$22.75 net)
UTG mucked and lost (-$7.75 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$7.75 net)
My gf doesn't really like me playing outside of her working hours. She was very understandable when I was grinding 16 hour days in December, so it's only fair I respect her wishes now I'm not grinding all hours of the day. Plus it is fairly fishy at 50nl 24/7 really!
WORD UP HAP HAZARD, positive thinking is the only way to succeed in life. and Gaz f*ck em they can say what they want just dont listen, go for your dreams do what yall wanna do.
Well looks like I'm a different person, but I come from different environment too, I'm not scared of nothing, I don't over think, I don't give a fk what's going on in 10-20-30 years, damn I rather die in a heist gone wrong than live to be 70 years old average joe reading newspaper in my apartment with my old ass dog and drinking tea.. but whatever u can think and say what yall want and do what yall want idgaf never have never will. im out too
No one told him that he should stop playing poker or to stop following his "dream". We are just saying that he is being incredibly naive to think he will never have to work for another man again when he is currently grinding 50z to get out of make up. And i wont even comment on your mindset, bc it is clearly lol and you wont really fall through with this once/if you begin to struggle. (Edit: i read your PGC thread and you sound incredibly young so your post makes more sense)
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Originally Posted by raikkonen3
Not disputing anything that you said but this whole thing came about because gazzy said he will never work a desk job in his life again. No one is doubting his ability to get a job if he had too, SID just questioned how he was so sure on this matter.
Ya Gazzy made a idiotic statement and didnt make any secondary post about the topic except for gtfo sid for pointing out his idiocy, good job bro.
hes right in the part where you have to think about your future
If you dont have a business planned to get out of poker at some point, you'll be ****ting yourself under a bridge at some point unless you're waiting for one of your parents death to retire on a small tropical island.