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07-31-2018 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
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Why dont you play on 200z during friday/saturday nights only?
You have the roll to play it, but it seems you have a mental block or something because youve always ran bad in there. Change your graph to bbs so you cant see how much youre winning/losing at 200z. Just restrict yourself to play in there during good times, soon the rungood will come and you will feel more confident grinding that stake.

On weekends I think 200z is more beatable in bb/100 than 100z. Fish/reg ratio is the same and rake is way smaller.
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07-31-2018 , 03:27 PM
I don't understand the awful call with aces tbh.
Your turn sizing on the other hand seems pretty awful but I don't see how you can fold this river (and lol @ him showing K7s here...)
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07-31-2018 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bananasplit
I don't understand the awful call with aces tbh.
Your turn sizing on the other hand seems pretty awful but I don't see how you can fold this river (and lol @ him showing K7s here...)
Turn size seemed standard to me tbh

River V should never be shoving 1 pair hands. I mean maybe he has a hand like AK of spades that he just monkey shoves river with but that's gunna be rare. His river lead is gunna be either 2pair+ or a bluff, and what could he really bluff with? 86 of spades, maybe? I probably tilt call the river too tbh but I think a fold makes a lot of sense.
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07-31-2018 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Turn size seemed standard to me tbh

River V should never be shoving 1 pair hands. I mean maybe he has a hand like AK of spades that he just monkey shoves river with but that's gunna be rare. His river lead is gunna be either 2pair+ or a bluff, and what could he really bluff with? 86 of spades, maybe? I probably tilt call the river too tbh but I think a fold makes a lot of sense.
I am a micro donk, so I have a 5b shove range here, but I thought good players at the higher limits that they didn't have a 5b range here and just 4bc with there whole range, is this not the case?.
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07-31-2018 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
https://www.twitch.tv/gazzyb12345

Streaming again, anyone willing to make me a decent twitch layout I'll give 2 hours of free coaching to! PM me
Big fan, happy to help.

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07-31-2018 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Harmonica
I am a micro donk, so I have a 5b shove range here, but I thought good players at the higher limits that they didn't have a 5b range here and just 4bc with there whole range, is this not the case?.
I don't know how this relates to what I said. But yeah, a lot of higher stakes players don't have a 5bet shove range and just call their whole range vs 4bet. If V never 5bets I hate calling the river even more
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08-01-2018 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Was the last hand (#11) vs a reg? I kind of understand his turn line, but wtf is he doing calling river with what has to be one of his worst bluff catchers?

Never played 200z on stars, but it sounds/looks tough. Though based on the HH it seems like you hold your own fine
Yeah haha, it's bizarre **** like this that makes me believe this stake is still very beatable once I finally get back in there properly.

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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Why dont you play on 200z during friday/saturday nights only?
You have the roll to play it, but it seems you have a mental block or something because youve always ran bad in there. Change your graph to bbs so you cant see how much youre winning/losing at 200z. Just restrict yourself to play in there during good times, soon the rungood will come and you will feel more confident grinding that stake.

On weekends I think 200z is more beatable in bb/100 than 100z. Fish/reg ratio is the same and rake is way smaller.
Haha I knew someone would react like this the meme is just a wee bit of banter. I'm happy shotting whenever the games look good during the week. It'll take a wee bit of time, and a wee bit of study, but don't worry man, I'll get there!

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Originally Posted by Bananasplit
I don't understand the awful call with aces tbh.
Your turn sizing on the other hand seems pretty awful but I don't see how you can fold this river (and lol @ him showing K7s here...)
Think the call OTR is really bad, like I say I just tilt sigh snapped without even thinking. There are almost no hands that we beat. ***Turn sizing is normally really bad and def not standard, but I know this guy is a huge station and when he calls flop there are almost 0 hands he will fold, so sizing up as an explo is wp imo (the fact he called w K7 for this size deems this strat to be good )*** <--- I put that in *** because I thought it was rly important lol

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Originally Posted by tgiggity
River V should never be shoving 1 pair hands. I mean maybe he has a hand like AK of spades that he just monkey shoves river with but that's gunna be rare. His river lead is gunna be either 2pair+ or a bluff, and what could he really bluff with? 86 of spades, maybe? I probably tilt call the river too tbh but I think a fold makes a lot of sense.
Yeah this. It's an awful call!

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Originally Posted by Harmonica
I am a micro donk, so I have a 5b shove range here, but I thought good players at the higher limits that they didn't have a 5b range here and just 4bc with there whole range, is this not the case?.
Yeah people defo have a 5b range here at this stack depth. It's more like 180bb deep that people start to "no 5bet". This player very capable of 5bet bluffing A5s type hands here!

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Originally Posted by dairuss86
Big fan, happy to help.

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08-01-2018 , 08:15 PM
Crispy day. Streamed twice, first one was class, second one was aids.



I mean wtf is this

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $100 (100 bb)
    Hero (BB): $160.05 (160.1 bb)
    UTG: $118.07 (118.1 bb)
    MP: $135.82 (135.8 bb)
    CO: $126.92 (126.9 bb)
    BTN: $148.35 (148.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
    UTG raises to $2.50, 3 folds, SB calls $2, Hero raises to $13, UTG calls $10.50, SB calls $10.50

    Flop: ($39) 5 5 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12, SB folds

    Turn: ($63) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $22.50, UTG raises to $93.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $70.57

    River: ($249.14) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $249.14 pot ($2.50 rake)
    Final Board: 5 5 4 3 K
    Hero showed Q Q and won $246.64 ($128.57 net)
    UTG showed 9 T and lost (-$118.07 net)


    Never holding here

      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $281.39 (281.4 bb)
      BB: $46.95 (47 bb)
      UTG: $107.41 (107.4 bb)
      MP: $375.69 (375.7 bb)
      CO: $317.32 (317.3 bb)
      BTN: $109.15 (109.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
      3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, BTN calls $7.50

      Flop: ($21) T 2 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $10, Hero raises to $27, BTN raises to $99.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $72.15

      Turn: ($219.30) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($219.30) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $219.30 pot ($2.50 rake)
      Final Board: T 2 8 3 A
      Hero showed K K and lost (-$109.15 net)
      BTN showed Q J and won $216.80 ($107.65 net)


      Vs whale, siq river Stars

        Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $230.89 (230.9 bb)
        BB: $422.72 (422.7 bb)
        UTG: $129.55 (129.6 bb)
        MP: $100 (100 bb)
        CO: $190.22 (190.2 bb)
        Hero (BTN): $107.30 (107.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q T
        UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $7

        Flop: ($21.50) 4 5 8 (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero bets $11, UTG calls $11

        Turn: ($43.50) A (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG raises to $36, Hero calls $21

        River: ($115.50) 8 (2 players)
        UTG bets $55, Hero calls $50.30 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $216.10 pot ($2.50 rake)
        Final Board: 4 5 8 A 8
        UTG showed A 8 and won $213.60 ($106.30 net)
        Hero showed Q T and lost (-$107.30 net)


        Mmmmmmmmmmonumental blowup from tight reg

          Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          Hero (SB): $208.27 (208.3 bb)
          BB: $249.29 (249.3 bb)
          UTG: $209.80 (209.8 bb)
          MP: $92.81 (92.8 bb)
          CO: $112.34 (112.3 bb)
          BTN: $101.50 (101.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with T 8
          3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, BTN calls $9

          Flop: ($25) 8 Q 5 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $17, Hero calls $17

          Turn: ($59) Q (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $72.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $72.50

          River: ($204) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $204 pot ($2.50 rake)
          Final Board: 8 Q 5 Q 9
          Hero showed T 8 and won $201.50 ($100 net)
          BTN showed J K and lost (-$101.50 net)


          A fun one!

            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            SB: $98.24 (98.2 bb)
            BB: $100 (100 bb)
            UTG: $192.92 (192.9 bb)
            MP: $149.01 (149 bb)
            Hero (CO): $176.74 (176.7 bb)
            BTN: $86.59 (86.6 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A
            2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $7.50

            Flop: ($20.50) 7 6 K (2 players)
            BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

            Turn: ($40.50) 6 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $14.70, BB calls $14.70

            River: ($69.90) A (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $142.04 and is all-in, BB calls $65.30 and is all-in

            Spoiler:
            Results: $200.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
            Final Board: 7 6 K 6 A
            BB showed T K and lost (-$100 net)
            Hero showed Q A and won $198 ($98.00 net)


            Ghastly runout

              Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

              SB: $155.69 (155.7 bb)
              Hero (BB): $269.68 (269.7 bb)
              UTG: $122.77 (122.8 bb)
              MP: $100 (100 bb)
              CO: $262.09 (262.1 bb)
              BTN: $177.41 (177.4 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 8
              2 folds, CO raises to $2.07, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $7.93

              Flop: ($20.50) Q 2 5 (2 players)
              Hero bets $6.43, CO calls $6.43

              Turn: ($33.36) A (2 players)
              Hero bets $23.50, CO calls $23.50

              River: ($80.36) Q (2 players)
              Hero checks, CO bets $43.29, Hero calls $43.29

              Spoiler:
              Results: $166.94 pot ($2.50 rake)
              Final Board: Q 2 5 A Q
              Hero mucked 9 8 and lost (-$83.22 net)
              CO showed Q A and won $164.44 ($81.22 net)


              el em eff ay oh

                Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                SB: $86.48 (86.5 bb)
                BB: $109.34 (109.3 bb)
                UTG: $175.56 (175.6 bb)
                MP: $97 (97 bb)
                Hero (CO): $103.22 (103.2 bb)
                BTN: $56.17 (56.2 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is CO with T 9
                UTG raises to $3, MP folds, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, UTG raises to $23, Hero calls $14

                Flop: ($47.50) K T 3 (2 players)
                UTG bets $13.99, Hero calls $13.99

                Turn: ($75.48) Q (2 players)
                UTG checks, Hero checks

                River: ($75.48) J (2 players)
                UTG bets $12.42, Hero raises to $66.23 and is all-in, UTG folds

                Spoiler:
                Results: $100.32 pot ($2.50 rake)
                Final Board: K T 3 Q J
                UTG mucked and lost (-$49.41 net)
                Hero mucked T 9 and won $97.82 ($48.41 net)


                Turn play is something I'll tell my children's children about one day

                  Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                  SB: $108.41 (108.4 bb)
                  BB: $232.95 (233 bb)
                  UTG: $64.39 (64.4 bb)
                  MP: $101.07 (101.1 bb)
                  Hero (CO): $151.13 (151.1 bb)
                  BTN: $102.50 (102.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is CO with J K
                  UTG folds, MP raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $7.50, 3 folds, MP calls $5.30

                  Flop: ($16.50) 7 T A (2 players)
                  MP checks, Hero bets $5.67, MP calls $5.67

                  Turn: ($27.84) 4 (2 players)
                  MP bets $16, Hero calls $16

                  River: ($59.84) J (2 players)
                  MP checks, Hero bets $121.96 and is all-in, MP folds

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $59.84 pot ($2.50 rake)
                  Final Board: 7 T A 4 J
                  MP mucked and lost (-$29.17 net)
                  Hero mucked J K and won $57.34 ($28.17 net)


                  And let's finish with a punt. That got through. Is a punt still a punt if it gets through....?

                    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                    SB: $228.73 (228.7 bb)
                    Hero (BB): $378.02 (378 bb)
                    UTG: $121.74 (121.7 bb)
                    MP: $178.37 (178.4 bb)
                    CO: $102.07 (102.1 bb)
                    BTN: $241.88 (241.9 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BB with J K
                    2 folds, CO raises to $2.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.35

                    Flop: ($5.20) J 2 8 (2 players)
                    Hero checks, CO bets $1.52, Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $19.50, Hero calls $13.50

                    Turn: ($44.20) T (2 players)
                    Hero checks, CO bets $29.50, Hero calls $29.50

                    River: ($103.20) A (2 players)
                    Hero bets $100.70, CO folds

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $103.20 pot ($2.50 rake)
                    Final Board: J 2 8 T A
                    Hero mucked J K and won $100.70 ($49.35 net)
                    CO mucked and lost (-$51.35 net)


                    ***

                    Went to play live tonight with my boy Benabadbeat. We start at a good 1/2 but everyone has got like £80 max. Eventually they start a £1/2 deepstack where the buyin is uncapped. Game is alright but not great, and then this American dude sits down whilst chugging a beer and is like "lets go boys." Absolute carnage ensued, game was amazing! Whale was in for like £2k so I put £2500 on the table to cover him, just in case. I just couldn't get a spot vs this guy in a decent pot. Over the course of 3 hours I called him down super light 5 times, 4 times in small pots with marginal holdings, and the last one, I'm in the double straddle (game was 1/2/5/10), he opens to 30 on btn, I make it 150 w AKdd, he calls. Q53dxx. I bet 200 into 300 coz fk GTO and he calls. 3x turn, I x, he bets 200, I call. River is an 8 I think, I x and he bets 500. I snap him off. Diamonds obv suck but Ben will confirm, this guy was rofling so hard all night, the call is okay.

                    Fun story before the above HH. 6 guys limp, inc the whale in SB, Ben makes it 80 from BB, a few calls. Whale decides to donk 250 in the dark, folds round to first limper on 853r who jams 800 w AKo (after limp-calling). Whale legit snap calls w 72o and they RIT and chop!

                    One more fun live story, mad mad props to Ben for this. So there's a French guy in the game, a rec but not terrible, I remember him from playing in LDN before and my vague memory is that he did something scummy and ppl were mad. Anyway I open AJo in HJ, he calls CO. QJ9r, x/x. Turn 3x, I bet 66%, he calls. River 2x, I reach for chips and he sighs, picks up his cards and goes to muck them. I pause like wtf are you doing, and bet anyway. He then puts his cards back down, puts a chip on top of them, and goes into the tank. After a minute I'm like pls call pls call pls call. He eventually calls, I show my hand and he goes "just a jack? no good." and shows QTo. I start berating **** out of him for whatever bull**** angle he was trying to shoot. Whole table is wetting themselves at me tearing this guy a new one. He's like "no no that's not what I was doing" and I'm like "yeye just stretching your arm were you?", absolute clown. Anyway the guy to the whale's left gets up and the angleshooter launches a £1 chip into the seat to lock it, like insta did it. Ben just goes "I mean this guy's total scum!", whole table is laughing away at Ben's comment and the angler is like "what did you say mate". Justice is served so so so sweetly however. Ben announces it's his last hand and puts the £10 straddle on (lol live fish for doing this but w/e). Whale limps SB, angler limps BB, Ben x's A5o. Flop T55fd. X to Ben who bets whatever, both call. 6fd turn, x to Ben who bets like 60% pot. 5 on the fkn river. Whale leads 200, angler legit snaps him off, and Ben just leans over and casually asks the angler "how much you got left there m8?" Angler shows about 300 max more, Ben thinks for a bit, then pops it to £555. Whale snap mucks and angler goes "yeah I can't fold", and calls. Angler asks "you got a five?" Ben is motionless and so quietly goes "...yip." Angler asks "Yeah? You have a five?" and Ben just quietly goes ".......yip." Ben shows and the angler gets up and snap leaves, not without a few comments from half the table as he goes.

                    Justice!
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                    08-01-2018 , 08:19 PM
                    Yess the live stories are back, A+
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                    08-01-2018 , 08:38 PM
                    Hahah what a ****
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                    08-01-2018 , 09:07 PM
                    Like the sizing pre vs whale with AKs and wtf at this angler story I swear when you think you’ve seen it all they come out of nowhere
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                    08-02-2018 , 05:10 AM
                    lmao. Can confirm whale was whale and scum was scum.
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                    08-02-2018 , 05:36 AM
                    …...yip
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                    08-02-2018 , 05:38 AM
                    Gazzy & Ben Live Poker tales are the ****ing nuts. More more more!
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                    08-02-2018 , 06:23 AM
                    Haha, don't browse 2p2 but my friend linked me this. Absolute justice! I honestly can't believe people like this french guy are real humans that exist, disgusting really. Was a pretty fun table, I was the Chinese guy who left midsession in formal clothes disguise.

                    I messaged my friends as I was leaving in those exact words, 'watch this scum lock that seat' - Sure enough I get a message minutes later confirming.

                    Actually the funniest moment was when he had the option to put on the £50 super-duper-super straddle. Just completely unashamedly unjokingly asks for a donation from table to make up his straddle. I immediately ask him if he's a real, american whale calls him out for essentially begging for money, whole table erupts in laughter.

                    Anyway didn't know it was you 2 until a friend told me, was fun playing with you both, see you around for some more live rofly adventures. Made an interesting fold against you bena , small pot tho. something like KJ3sxx 8s where you overbet turn
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                    08-02-2018 , 06:34 AM
                    Ah, yeah I remember you. You shouldn’t have left!

                    hahaha I totally forgot about that. The dude asking someone to pay half his straddle and the whale literally going ‘wow that’s the first time I’ve ever seen someone beg at the table’. What an embarrassing moment for that dude

                    I had JJ on the KJx8ss board btw. Ez game for you. Nice fold
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                    08-02-2018 , 06:51 AM
                    Had work today otherwise would have never left!

                    Had KQo with Qs in that hand, pre is meh but figured no point 3b you when 2 weaker players in bb and straddle.

                    One hand am v high up, but Qs seems nut worst card to have and in general, most live players (which is what I thought you were at the time) weighted towards value in these spots especially vs seemingly young asian rec station


                    gg wp anyway, hope you boys got most of it back.
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                    08-02-2018 , 08:30 AM
                    Wait, he was already at the table and changed his seat to the left of the whale?
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                    08-02-2018 , 08:52 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by tgiggity
                    Was the last hand (#11) vs a reg? I kind of understand his turn line, but wtf is he doing calling river with what has to be one of his worst bluff catchers?

                    Never played 200z on stars, but it sounds/looks tough. Though based on the HH it seems like you hold your own fine
                    Even though I think villain should auto check back the turn to realize equity, I don't think his river call is that bad. Yes, having the Tc is pretty bad but having the 8 blocker is really crucial imo.
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                    08-02-2018 , 09:27 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by heat555
                    Wait, he was already at the table and changed his seat to the left of the whale?


                    Yep. And I said ‘this guy is pure scum quietly’ and he said ‘what?’ Grinding Past the Fries
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                    08-02-2018 , 09:42 AM
                    Deserved juctice dealt by Ben
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                    08-02-2018 , 10:13 AM
                    Will reply to this utter brilliance of a thread later, but for now, we stream!

                    https://www.twitch.tv/gazzyb12345
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                    08-02-2018 , 12:26 PM
                    I open 2+2, then there's your thread on the first page

                    ... the title makes me wanna go to McDonald's and order Big Tasty + fries + sauce + some side burger, or to hit an actual grill burger place, even better

                    Unfortunately missed the stream, when is the next one?
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                    08-02-2018 , 03:18 PM
                    Double "........yip" was impressively gto Ben, mad props
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                    08-02-2018 , 04:58 PM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by GrimIsCool
                    Gazzy & Ben Live Poker tales are the ****ing nuts. More more more!

                    Time to make joint live thread???

                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
                    Double "........yip" was impressively gto Ben, mad props

                    haha, thank you. been running sims for live and this was the solution

                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
                    …...yip



                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by ichigogogo
                    Had work today otherwise would have never left!

                    Had KQo with Qs in that hand, pre is meh but figured no point 3b you when 2 weaker players in bb and straddle.

                    One hand am v high up, but Qs seems nut worst card to have and in general, most live players (which is what I thought you were at the time) weighted towards value in these spots especially vs seemingly young asian rec station


                    gg wp anyway, hope you boys got most of it back.

                    Noted. I will only overbet as a bluff from now on and bet ‘calling’ size from now on. Thank you for the tips!
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