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09-05-2018 , 07:53 AM
Sorry to hear that Gazzy. Guy clearly needs help (not from you ofc) and to gtfo of the poker/gambling world.

lol@the second edit.
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09-05-2018 , 08:01 AM
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The guy is not a prick, he is a gambling addict and needs help.
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Horse rocks up and says "the money's gone, there's nothing left, this is how we are going to proceed..." word for word, that is what he said
the definition of a prick
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09-05-2018 , 08:21 AM
there is a time and place for violence.
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09-05-2018 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MR McDonald
the definition of a prick
I mean he can ofc be both. The gambling addiction is what is causing him to act like a prick so that seemed more pertinent.

Remember also that most poker pros heavily rely on these type of people to keep their career viable. It is difficult when something like this happens to you but I think we need to show them some compassion
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09-05-2018 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by deathorglory0
The guy is not a prick, he is a gambling addict and needs help.
This, such a sad story, it's hard to read that, feel bad for you and the guy. But on average lending money to gambling addicts is a bad idea, even to normal people it's already bad, since 90% of the people don't make effort in paying you back and you always have to keep asking them to pay back, which is super annoying for both sides.

The sickest thing is the guy trying to justify that his gambling happened to help you get your money back
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09-05-2018 , 09:47 AM
Danny Ings is at Southampton though.
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09-05-2018 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyM2033
Danny Ings is at Southampton though.
yeah, while reading I was hoping to see some overturn in that direction, but sadly it ended there :/
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09-05-2018 , 10:17 AM
I benched him in FPL at the weekend
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09-05-2018 , 10:50 AM
https://www.twitch.tv/gazzyb12345

Stream time, keeping an eye on the comments of this thread, some interesting stuff so far!
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09-05-2018 , 03:39 PM
What price did he get on Ings going to Southampton?
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09-05-2018 , 04:36 PM
Good choice on cutting him out of your life and moving out asap. He's obv got a problem but that isn't your problem. For him to take no responsibility and not be apologetic at all it seems unlikely he pays you so prob best just forget about it and if the money somehow comes back then great. Prob a learning moment though in terms of choosing to stake him. Past stealing and degeneracy along with it being a stake for micros was unlikely to ever end well. What do you think his hourly was playing those games, I assume not a lot and he was bound to steal when he couldn't make money to fund his life/degeneracy.
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09-05-2018 , 05:43 PM
staking sounds fun
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09-05-2018 , 08:45 PM
Thanks for all the comments dudes, have picked a few to reply to...

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Originally Posted by jektisss
subbed my man!

really sad story this is. you can just hope he will get his problems fixed anytime in his life and accepting help he might need but before all this happening he just have to realize that he is ****ing sick of this ****. people like him dont see anything in their life which does not suprise me by his behaviour. i was in the same situation like this for years having a roomate with same problems.
Thanks for the sub homie! Sorry to hear you've been through the same thing

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Originally Posted by MR McDonald
wow what a prick
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Originally Posted by deathorglory0
The guy is not a prick, he is a gambling addict and needs help.
I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive. I appreciate the how disruptive a gambling addiction can be, but that doesn't excuse certain actions/lack of remorse!

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Originally Posted by Oladipo
It’s probably not what you want to hear, but he’s at the mercy of his own disease and it has everything to do with that and not with him being scum (although he might be anyways, idk). I’ve had a way-too-high number of experiences with this sad stuff.

1. Usually everything he said to you while trying to cover his ass will have turned out to be a lie. That includes the story about the fight, him getting banned, etc. Addicts will go to ridiculous lengths to make up lies about the (usually boring) reason why they lost the money.

2. In the future just ask around in the forums before making decisions like this when backing people. I knew from the 2nd paragraph where this story was going. Literally every single person would have told you staking someone with a gambling problem to do more gambling is never a good idea. I think everyone I know who has been involved in this world has a story like yours to go with it. As it is, it sounds like he has had the capability to pay people back. If he can get over his gambling issue and you remain in touch I would bet you will see your money back one day too. When the smoke clears just talk to him and come up with an easy payment plan.

3. I know this sucks to hear but 2k pounds is a cheap price to pay in this situation. My good friend had a friend/horse that he was living with for years who lied about every bankroll on every site, doctored screenshots, etc to the tune of 150k. Was just the quietest guy and never had any reason to suspect. Anyways it’s a real sickness and it’s out of the guys control and you did the right thing by moving out. Too many times people have to get worse than before getting better and it sounds like he’s deservedly got a pile of **** to climb out of. Hopefully he will seek help and get better bc of it.

If you can find it in your heart, realize that he has a lifelong disease to grapple with that’s capable of taking everything from him. He’s going to have to change everything in his life (including his job at the gambling shop) in order to beat it, and until he does it will screw up his ability to live a happy life, he will lose everything and everyone around him.

Either way sorry this happened to you. Great storytelling as always though!!! You’ve got a super entertaining writing style
Thanks for the advice bud, I particularly agree with point 1 (even tho the fight 100% happened, many mutual friends and casino managers were there); the number of lies and how casual they were was ridiculous when we found out about it all.

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Originally Posted by Labax
Crazy ****ing story. Must be a super stressful situation to be in chasing around this money being told different stories everytime. I guess the painful parts are like going for dinner and him knowing he's gonna scum you right after that and also him just acting like nothing his happened is not only tilting but also probably means he just needs a lot of help. I'll be at the same cash race this weekend funnily enough.

Anyway yeah I hope he eventually he realises how badly he's ****ed up because right now it just seems like denial has taken over when he doesn't get how bad things were.

PS that journey from London to Inverness would put me on astro tilt.
Thanks a lot bud, glgl this weekend! Let me know how it goes

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Originally Posted by yasuo
one of the biggest lesson I have learnt from poker is never trust anyone when it comes to money
Haha so much this! Got a mate who's owed me £300 for about 2 years now, people just assume that you're doing alright and there's no rush to pay it back.

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Originally Posted by AndyM2033
Danny Ings is at Southampton though.
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Originally Posted by nomalice
yeah, while reading I was hoping to see some overturn in that direction, but sadly it ended there :/
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Originally Posted by deathorglory0
I benched him in FPL at the weekend
Absolutely loved these three posts!

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Originally Posted by Husker
What price did he get on Ings going to Southampton?
He got £1100 for a £400 stake, dunno if all that £1100 was profit or what. I suspect it was insta-reinvested tho.

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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
Good choice on cutting him out of your life and moving out asap. He's obv got a problem but that isn't your problem. For him to take no responsibility and not be apologetic at all it seems unlikely he pays you so prob best just forget about it and if the money somehow comes back then great. Prob a learning moment though in terms of choosing to stake him. Past stealing and degeneracy along with it being a stake for micros was unlikely to ever end well. What do you think his hourly was playing those games, I assume not a lot and he was bound to steal when he couldn't make money to fund his life/degeneracy.
Thanks a lot dude. As you say he's got a problem, and it's a shame, but it sure as **** ain't my problem!

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Originally Posted by doctor877
staking sounds fun
stake me pls! Hope you're well bud x

***I have swapped the $109 from 13th Sept to 06th Sept (today), 150k gtd to 500k gtd, anyone who has bought a piece that has an issue with it feel free to make your feelings known, otherwise I'll switch em!***

MTTs - played the $22 and gg'd 2nd level, 3bet 88 pre vs a fish, he called, JT2r flop went x/x, he lead on 9 turn and potted 7 river. Sigh but hey ho. Played the $55 and busted just before end of reg. Played ok, just no spots. Also a Twitch viewer offered to flick me into the $215HU as a 20/80 freeroll, humbly accepted but lost in the 1st round after 4betting A5s for 60bb and running into KK, A95 flop... K turn woulda been a great story!



Rly pleased to have a winning day at 100z, things were tough for a while there. Couple of quick hands...

Was in no mood to fold

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $194.66 (194.7 bb)
    Hero (BB): $153.79 (153.8 bb)
    UTG: $105.50 (105.5 bb)
    MP: $479.57 (479.6 bb)
    CO: $175.40 (175.4 bb)
    BTN: $67.04 (67 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
    2 folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, CO calls $9.50

    Flop: ($25.50) J 4 J (2 players)
    Hero bets $7.99, CO calls $7.99

    Turn: ($41.48) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $17, Hero calls $17

    River: ($75.48) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $137.91 and is all-in, Hero calls $116.30 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: $308.08 pot ($2.50 rake)
    Final Board: J 4 J 2 7
    Hero showed K K and won $305.58 ($151.79 net)
    CO showed A Q and lost (-$153.79 net)


    Yucky vs aggro reg

      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $100 (100 bb)
      BB: $147.27 (147.3 bb)
      UTG: $67.38 (67.4 bb)
      MP: $119 (119 bb)
      Hero (CO): $366.04 (366 bb)
      BTN: $90.48 (90.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
      2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $7.50

      Flop: ($20.50) 4 2 7 (2 players)
      BB bets $10.13, Hero calls $10.13

      Turn: ($40.76) 2 (2 players)
      BB bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50

      River: ($91.76) 3 (2 players)
      BB bets $101.64 and is all-in, Hero calls $101.64

      Spoiler:
      Results: $295.04 pot ($2.50 rake)
      Final Board: 4 2 7 2 3
      BB showed 6 5 and won $292.54 ($145.27 net)
      Hero showed T T and lost (-$147.27 net)


      100z regs I mean what the ****ing ****

        Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $171.08 (171.1 bb)
        BB: $163.92 (163.9 bb)
        UTG: $122.19 (122.2 bb)
        MP: $104.06 (104.1 bb)
        Hero (CO): $122.62 (122.6 bb)
        BTN: $43.92 (43.9 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 8
        UTG folds, MP raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $13, MP folds, Hero calls $10

        Flop: ($29.50) 8 6 2 (2 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets $8.75, BB raises to $23.77, Hero calls $15.02

        Turn: ($77.04) Q (2 players)
        BB bets $24.60, Hero calls $24.60

        River: ($126.24) 2 (2 players)
        BB bets $102.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $61.25 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $248.74 pot ($2.50 rake)
        Final Board: 8 6 2 Q 2
        BB showed A K and lost (-$122.62 net)
        Hero showed 8 8 and won $246.24 ($123.62 net)


        Had this guy tagged as a reg, hence the 3b, obvs not lol

          Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: $107.94 (107.9 bb)
          Hero (BB): $126.37 (126.4 bb)
          UTG: $131.51 (131.5 bb)
          MP: $142.83 (142.8 bb)
          CO: $121.74 (121.7 bb)
          BTN: $84.80 (84.8 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 3
          4 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $6

          Flop: ($18) 8 K 3 (2 players)
          SB bets $10, Hero calls $10

          Turn: ($38) Q (2 players)
          SB bets $18, Hero calls $18

          River: ($74) 6 (2 players)
          SB bets $70.94 and is all-in, Hero calls $70.94

          Spoiler:
          Results: $215.88 pot ($2.50 rake)
          Final Board: 8 K 3 Q 6
          SB showed 5 A and lost (-$107.94 net)
          Hero showed 6 3 and won $213.38 ($105.44 net)


          Sigh call vs the min 4b, sigh gii, horrible hand to be up against equity wise!

            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            SB: $285.26 (285.3 bb)
            BB: $102.75 (102.8 bb)
            UTG: $123.40 (123.4 bb)
            MP: $54.47 (54.5 bb)
            CO: $100 (100 bb)
            Hero (BTN): $178 (178 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 5
            2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, CO raises to $16, Hero calls $7

            Flop: ($33.50) 5 6 7 (2 players)
            CO bets $18, Hero raises to $162 and is all-in, CO calls $66 and is all-in

            Turn: ($201.50) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
            River: ($201.50) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $201.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
            Final Board: 5 6 7 6 T
            CO showed 9 7 and won $199 ($99 net)
            Hero showed 4 5 and lost (-$100 net)


            Trying to push a fish about, couldn't put him on that!

              Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

              SB: $221.85 (221.9 bb)
              BB: $93.83 (93.8 bb)
              UTG: $141.15 (141.2 bb)
              MP: $123.18 (123.2 bb)
              Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)
              BTN: $79.85 (79.9 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is CO with T J
              2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

              Flop: ($5.50) K 3 7 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $1.72, BB calls $1.72

              Turn: ($8.94) A (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50

              River: ($31.94) J (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $84.28 and is all-in, BB calls $78.11 and is all-in

              Spoiler:
              Results: $188.16 pot ($2.50 rake)
              Final Board: K 3 7 A J
              BB showed A A and won $185.66 ($91.83 net)
              Hero showed T J and lost (-$93.83 net)


              Crushed this fkn ant

                Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                Hero (SB): $111.69 (111.7 bb)
                BB: $107.21 (107.2 bb)
                UTG: $100 (100 bb)
                MP: $138.89 (138.9 bb)
                CO: $97 (97 bb)
                BTN: $109.11 (109.1 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
                4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

                Flop: ($6) K 6 8 (2 players)
                Hero bets $1.88, BB raises to $8.69, Hero calls $6.81

                Turn: ($23.38) 4 (2 players)
                Hero checks, BB bets $15.99, Hero calls $15.99

                River: ($55.36) A (2 players)
                Hero checks, BB bets $16.92, Hero raises to $84.01 and is all-in, BB folds

                Spoiler:
                Results: $89.20 pot ($2.50 rake)
                Final Board: K 6 8 4 A
                Hero mucked 9 9 and won $86.70 ($42.10 net)
                BB mucked and lost (-$44.60 net)


                This autopilot 3bet escalated quickly

                  Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                  Hero (SB): $111.18 (111.2 bb)
                  BB: $186.69 (186.7 bb)
                  UTG: $205.07 (205.1 bb)
                  MP: $77.98 (78 bb)
                  CO: $147.76 (147.8 bb)
                  BTN: $108.27 (108.3 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
                  3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, BTN calls $9

                  Flop: ($25) J 5 2 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $7.84, BTN calls $7.84

                  Turn: ($40.68) 9 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $23.51, BTN calls $23.51

                  River: ($87.70) K (2 players)
                  Hero bets $67.83 and is all-in, BTN folds

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $87.70 pot ($2.50 rake)
                  Final Board: J 5 2 9 K
                  Hero mucked 7 A and won $85.20 ($41.85 net)
                  BTN mucked and lost (-$43.35 net)


                  Dunno what ur reppin m8 but u should never have a set here

                    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                    SB: $100 (100 bb)
                    BB: $58.68 (58.7 bb)
                    UTG: $153.05 (153.1 bb)
                    MP: $139.18 (139.2 bb)
                    Hero (CO): $410.41 (410.4 bb)
                    BTN: $103.20 (103.2 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 7
                    2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2, BB folds

                    Flop: ($6) 5 8 4 (2 players)
                    SB checks, Hero bets $3.76, SB raises to $15, Hero calls $11.24

                    Turn: ($36) 2 (2 players)
                    SB bets $21.50, Hero raises to $98.70, SB folds

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $79.00 pot ($2.50 rake)
                    Final Board: 5 8 4 2
                    SB mucked and lost (-$39 net)
                    Hero mucked 7 7 and won $76.50 ($37.50 net)


                    Redline 4 lyf

                      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                      Hero (SB): $104.30 (104.3 bb)
                      BB: $71.72 (71.7 bb)
                      UTG: $135.76 (135.8 bb)
                      MP: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
                      CO: $204.87 (204.9 bb)
                      BTN: $88.60 (88.6 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
                      UTG folds, MP raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, MP calls $7.50

                      Flop: ($21) Q 6 3 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $6.58, MP calls $6.58

                      Turn: ($34.16) 8 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $21.42, MP calls $21.42

                      River: ($77) 3 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $66.30 and is all-in, MP folds

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $77.00 pot ($2.50 rake)
                      Final Board: Q 6 3 8 3
                      Hero mucked K A and won $74.50 ($36.50 net)
                      MP mucked and lost (-$38 net)


                      Ok that'll suffice, WCOOP so far and tomorrow's schedule...

                      https://gyazo.com/c10e50ad17c91c3c4bbbbdb758176058
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                      09-05-2018 , 09:41 PM
                      Thanks for the ban in the stream spazzyb didn't even get the chance to talk after mentioning mirage. It seems you have gone down the marketing road in poker with coaching/streaming as many other average regs have to resort to stay in the game, Probably a smart choice as you appear to be a likable guy (lovable idiot). Strange thing is you only have a graph of 250k hands claiming to beat 100z at 7bb? from 2017>now, for a guy that use to grind 1mil+ hands a year that seems odd and it probably tells me that the rest of your sample over this time was not worth showing/deleted out of your db. Now you can tell me you were playing live or some other bs but 250k~ hands online in almost 2 years from you is hard to believe, your sheep following will help defend you anyway. Also don't pull the ''he's obsessed with me'' crap I barely open this site/have not posted in a year. Now I can understand dental is expensive and you don't want to spend $ fixing that big gap between your teeth....but cmon 2nl grinders in 3rd world countries are not sitting on wooden stools. You started this thread what almost 5 years ago at 50nl? and now you're at 100nl keep up the good work pce.
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                      09-05-2018 , 10:05 PM
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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      Thanks for the ban in the stream spazzyb didn't even get the chance to talk after mentioning mirage
                      Ahaha I remember your posts from last year, went to look them up, you came at the king and missed then, funny to see it took you a whole year to muster up the courage to try again np on the snap ban, socially awkward passive aggressive dudes not allowed in streamchat

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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      It seems you have gone down the marketing road in poker with coaching/streaming as many other average regs have to resort to stay in the game
                      Coaching is a pretty sweet thing to do to subsidise my income, but I make no money from streaming or my instagram page, they're both just a lot of fun! Nice try suggesting I'm making a living off of either, my 7bb 100z winrate is enough thank you very much!

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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      Probably a smart choice as you appear to be a likable guy (lovable idiot).
                      I'm fairly certain you don't like me, but thanks I guess.

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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      Strange thing is you only have a graph of 250k hands claiming to beat 100z at 7bb? from 2017>now, for a guy that use to grind 1mil+ hands a year that seems odd and it probably tells me that the rest of your sample over this time was not worth showing/deleted out of your db. Now you can tell me you were playing live or some other bs but 250k~ hands online in almost 2 years from you is hard to believe
                      Sorry to absolutely destroy you right off the bat but I was playing on Party/iPoker up until then and hadn't been on Stars in about 2 years. This is literally all the hands I have at 100z. You've just been utterly rekt straight away cuz.

                      Also, say I had grinded on Stars in 2015 and 2016 and hadn't beaten 100z for the 7bb I do today, so what? Would your argument genuinely be "AHAHA YOU USED TO BE BAD AT 100Z AND NOW YOU BEAT IT REALLY WELL OMFG". Think about that for a minute.

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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      your sheep following will help defend you anyway.
                      Reeks of jealousy to me

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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      Also don't pull the ''he's obsessed with me'' crap I barely open this site/have not posted in a year
                      This is the 3rd time you've stepped to me in this thread and today was the second time I've banned you from my stream. I mean I'm sure we can all agree that you're pretty ****ing obsessed with GazzyB! Not to mention jealous of my small fanbase

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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      Now I can understand dental is expensive and you don't want to spend $ fixing that big gap between your teeth
                      Ironic seeing as I can fit my mammoth pipe in between the gap in your mum's teeth.

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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      but cmon 2nl grinders in 3rd world countries are not sitting on wooden stools
                      Moved into this house <24 hours ago, don't worry I'll be a new one soon. It'll probably cost more than your entire bankroll m8. Spare me the "looool I play midstakes" line that's coming, it's clear to see why you are in here trying to bring me down (other than your clear obsession); you bustooooo! Also never mind what I sit on, you should see what your mum sits on!

                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      You started this thread what almost 5 years ago at 50nl? and now you're at 100nl keep up the good work pce.
                      A lot of regs that were playing 5 years ago have dropped out the game. I'm proud that in this environment I can beat 100z for the clip I do and that I am relevant enough to have haters like you

                      Now, you can either reply to this post and I'll annihilate you once more, or like last time you can leave with your tail between your legs after yet another spanking by the great Gazzy****ingB

                      Edit - https://gyazo.com/0867c890468ad3c420bfe68db7fe8ade - y u tryin to be all nicey nicey on twitch chat after being banned but trying to look clever in here? You've been utterly rekt mate!
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                      09-05-2018 , 10:22 PM
                      I'm a very nice guy obv, not a hater yet. Impressive to see how fast you come to save your image though and why would anyone brag about midstakes? Aussies don't have a lot of options poker wise(online). I mean you're playing 100nl and are a charity case surrounded by people a lot better than you, I have guitars worth more than you ***** chill....you aint a baller. Post some real samples and stop pretending to be a crusher to your ''small audience'', you're even dumber than I thought if you're not making any $ off twitch/socials. Mum jokes died a long time ago also you can do better GappyB.
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                      09-05-2018 , 10:46 PM
                      Hate to come across a tad bit xenophobic, but from my experience failed aussie poker players tend to be disproportionately ****ish. Maybe it's because it's such a sporting hotbed so the average aussie who instead turns to poker and then fails is prob a genetically challenged gimp who has to then deal with the realisation that they don't make up for it by being gifted on the felt?

                      Just a (most likely ******ed) shellysashes crackpot theory of course.
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                      09-05-2018 , 11:47 PM
                      Love you
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                      09-06-2018 , 06:11 AM
                      Sorry to hear you got stiffed, although I am a bit surprised by your naivity in this case, since it is gambling degenerates like the guy you staked that makes up a good % of your paycheck. In this case I think you did the right thing by cutting ties to this guy, and just write it off as a loss. I mean, you knew from the start that he had a gambling problem, and then he did what gambling degens do - lost a bit degening, didn't win at the poker tables, tried to get back to even by gambling more and didn't bink.

                      You have to realise that what he is saying about gambling to give you your money back is most likely true in his mind, most gamblers are able to rationalise things in these ways. Everything he told you and the way he has reacted and acted are just classical examples of this and, at least in my opinion, says nothing about him as a person - just based on these actions you can't really classify him as a prick/non-prick/scammer/non-scammer etc.

                      In the future, if you ever enter into staking deals, make sure that the person you stake does not have any history of any sort of compulsive gambling, unless it is a stake for a session/tournament with you at the casino at the same time (then he would have to be an utter degen beyond all saving to attempt some ****, although that isn't unheard of either).

                      In all seriousness, staking a gambling addict and being surprised that he eventually degens off all/part of your stake is basically like having an alcoholic who has been clean for a week or two going to the shop to buy booze for you and then being surprised when he goes off the rails and drinks your booze himself instead of bringing it home.

                      And as I mentioned at the start of my post, keep in mind that people like him are to a large extent the same people that pay your bills - that might help you accept the loss mentally. Sure, you can tell yourself that the guy punting of stacks at 10/20 is just a "well-off guy wanting to have fun and splash around", and that might be true, although more often than not he will have some sort of addiction problems - be they severe or mild, but most non-addicts somehow don't blow that kind of money at a poker table "just for fun".
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                      09-06-2018 , 08:26 AM
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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      I'm a very nice guy obv, not a hater yet. Impressive to see how fast you come to save your image though and why would anyone brag about midstakes? Aussies don't have a lot of options poker wise(online). I mean you're playing 100nl and are a charity case surrounded by people a lot better than you, I have guitars worth more than you ***** chill....you aint a baller. Post some real samples and stop pretending to be a crusher to your ''small audience'', you're even dumber than I thought if you're not making any $ off twitch/socials. Mum jokes died a long time ago also you can do better GappyB.
                      You have $10 to pay for taxi?
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                      09-06-2018 , 08:35 AM
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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      I'm a very nice guy obv, not a hater yet. Impressive to see how fast you come to save your image though and why would anyone brag about midstakes? Aussies don't have a lot of options poker wise(online). I mean you're playing 100nl and are a charity case surrounded by people a lot better than you, I have guitars worth more than you ***** chill....you aint a baller. Post some real samples and stop pretending to be a crusher to your ''small audience'', you're even dumber than I thought if you're not making any $ off twitch/socials. Mum jokes died a long time ago also you can do better GappyB.
                      You've come in, tried to embarrass me and ended up embarrassing yourself. I genuinely don't understand why so many people have this desire to bring me down. I'm not a great poker player, I'm somewhere between average and good, I like to think I'm a nice guy, it's just so boring having to do this every few weeks. "YOUR GRAPH ONLY HAS 250K HANDS SHOW THE WHOLE THING YOU FAILURE!" just so tiresome and pathetic.

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                      Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
                      Hate to come across a tad bit xenophobic, but from my experience failed aussie poker players tend to be disproportionately ****ish. Maybe it's because it's such a sporting hotbed so the average aussie who instead turns to poker and then fails is prob a genetically challenged gimp who has to then deal with the realisation that they don't make up for it by being gifted on the felt?

                      Just a (most likely ******ed) shellysashes crackpot theory of course.


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                      Love you
                      Love you more big guy.

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                      Originally Posted by ReGen
                      Sorry to hear you got stiffed, although I am a bit surprised by your naivity in this case, since it is gambling degenerates like the guy you staked that makes up a good % of your paycheck. In this case I think you did the right thing by cutting ties to this guy, and just write it off as a loss. I mean, you knew from the start that he had a gambling problem, and then he did what gambling degens do - lost a bit degening, didn't win at the poker tables, tried to get back to even by gambling more and didn't bink.

                      You have to realise that what he is saying about gambling to give you your money back is most likely true in his mind, most gamblers are able to rationalise things in these ways. Everything he told you and the way he has reacted and acted are just classical examples of this and, at least in my opinion, says nothing about him as a person - just based on these actions you can't really classify him as a prick/non-prick/scammer/non-scammer etc.

                      In the future, if you ever enter into staking deals, make sure that the person you stake does not have any history of any sort of compulsive gambling, unless it is a stake for a session/tournament with you at the casino at the same time (then he would have to be an utter degen beyond all saving to attempt some ****, although that isn't unheard of either).

                      In all seriousness, staking a gambling addict and being surprised that he eventually degens off all/part of your stake is basically like having an alcoholic who has been clean for a week or two going to the shop to buy booze for you and then being surprised when he goes off the rails and drinks your booze himself instead of bringing it home.

                      And as I mentioned at the start of my post, keep in mind that people like him are to a large extent the same people that pay your bills - that might help you accept the loss mentally. Sure, you can tell yourself that the guy punting of stacks at 10/20 is just a "well-off guy wanting to have fun and splash around", and that might be true, although more often than not he will have some sort of addiction problems - be they severe or mild, but most non-addicts somehow don't blow that kind of money at a poker table "just for fun".
                      I can't be arsed replying to this bit by bit but it's clear you didn't properly read it. I haven't cut the guy out, I haven't "just written off" the debt, and the bolded part is just lol.

                      Woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, dunno if y'all can tell.
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                      09-06-2018 , 09:10 AM
                      Almost like a tasty 2.0 on your hands Gazzy, seems like you draw alot of negative attention for whatever reason... Must be doing something right.
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                      09-06-2018 , 09:13 AM
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                      Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
                      Thanks for the ban in the stream spazzyb didn't even get the chance to talk after mentioning mirage. It seems you have gone down the marketing road in poker with coaching/streaming as many other average regs have to resort to stay in the game, Probably a smart choice as you appear to be a likable guy (lovable idiot). Strange thing is you only have a graph of 250k hands claiming to beat 100z at 7bb? from 2017>now, for a guy that use to grind 1mil+ hands a year that seems odd and it probably tells me that the rest of your sample over this time was not worth showing/deleted out of your db. Now you can tell me you were playing live or some other bs but 250k~ hands online in almost 2 years from you is hard to believe, your sheep following will help defend you anyway. Also don't pull the ''he's obsessed with me'' crap I barely open this site/have not posted in a year. Now I can understand dental is expensive and you don't want to spend $ fixing that big gap between your teeth....but cmon 2nl grinders in 3rd world countries are not sitting on wooden stools. You started this thread what almost 5 years ago at 50nl? and now you're at 100nl keep up the good work pce.
                      I don't wanna say owned but

                      lol
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                      09-06-2018 , 09:32 AM
                      so glad I found this thread... thourougly entertaining!!!!
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