Grinding Past the Fries
Sorry to hear that Gazzy. Guy clearly needs help (not from you ofc) and to gtfo of the poker/gambling world.
lol@the second edit.
lol@the second edit.
The guy is not a prick, he is a gambling addict and needs help.
Horse rocks up and says "the money's gone, there's nothing left, this is how we are going to proceed..." word for word, that is what he said
there is a time and place for violence.
I mean he can ofc be both. The gambling addiction is what is causing him to act like a prick so that seemed more pertinent.
Remember also that most poker pros heavily rely on these type of people to keep their career viable. It is difficult when something like this happens to you but I think we need to show them some compassion
Remember also that most poker pros heavily rely on these type of people to keep their career viable. It is difficult when something like this happens to you but I think we need to show them some compassion
This, such a sad story, it's hard to read that, feel bad for you and the guy. But on average lending money to gambling addicts is a bad idea, even to normal people it's already bad, since 90% of the people don't make effort in paying you back and you always have to keep asking them to pay back, which is super annoying for both sides.
The sickest thing is the guy trying to justify that his gambling happened to help you get your money back
The sickest thing is the guy trying to justify that his gambling happened to help you get your money back
Danny Ings is at Southampton though.
yeah, while reading I was hoping to see some overturn in that direction, but sadly it ended there :/
I benched him in FPL at the weekend
https://www.twitch.tv/gazzyb12345
Stream time, keeping an eye on the comments of this thread, some interesting stuff so far!
Stream time, keeping an eye on the comments of this thread, some interesting stuff so far!
What price did he get on Ings going to Southampton?
Good choice on cutting him out of your life and moving out asap. He's obv got a problem but that isn't your problem. For him to take no responsibility and not be apologetic at all it seems unlikely he pays you so prob best just forget about it and if the money somehow comes back then great. Prob a learning moment though in terms of choosing to stake him. Past stealing and degeneracy along with it being a stake for micros was unlikely to ever end well. What do you think his hourly was playing those games, I assume not a lot and he was bound to steal when he couldn't make money to fund his life/degeneracy.
staking sounds fun
Thanks for all the comments dudes, have picked a few to reply to...
Thanks for the sub homie! Sorry to hear you've been through the same thing
I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive. I appreciate the how disruptive a gambling addiction can be, but that doesn't excuse certain actions/lack of remorse!
Thanks for the advice bud, I particularly agree with point 1 (even tho the fight 100% happened, many mutual friends and casino managers were there); the number of lies and how casual they were was ridiculous when we found out about it all.
Thanks a lot bud, glgl this weekend! Let me know how it goes
Haha so much this! Got a mate who's owed me £300 for about 2 years now, people just assume that you're doing alright and there's no rush to pay it back.
Absolutely loved these three posts!
He got £1100 for a £400 stake, dunno if all that £1100 was profit or what. I suspect it was insta-reinvested tho.
Thanks a lot dude. As you say he's got a problem, and it's a shame, but it sure as **** ain't my problem!
stake me pls! Hope you're well bud x
***I have swapped the $109 from 13th Sept to 06th Sept (today), 150k gtd to 500k gtd, anyone who has bought a piece that has an issue with it feel free to make your feelings known, otherwise I'll switch em!***
MTTs - played the $22 and gg'd 2nd level, 3bet 88 pre vs a fish, he called, JT2r flop went x/x, he lead on 9 turn and potted 7 river. Sigh but hey ho. Played the $55 and busted just before end of reg. Played ok, just no spots. Also a Twitch viewer offered to flick me into the $215HU as a 20/80 freeroll, humbly accepted but lost in the 1st round after 4betting A5s for 60bb and running into KK, A95 flop... K turn woulda been a great story!
Rly pleased to have a winning day at 100z, things were tough for a while there. Couple of quick hands...
Was in no mood to fold
Yucky vs aggro reg
100z regs I mean what the ****ing ****
Had this guy tagged as a reg, hence the 3b, obvs not lol
Sigh call vs the min 4b, sigh gii, horrible hand to be up against equity wise!
Trying to push a fish about, couldn't put him on that!
Crushed this fkn ant
This autopilot 3bet escalated quickly
Dunno what ur reppin m8 but u should never have a set here
Redline 4 lyf
Ok that'll suffice, WCOOP so far and tomorrow's schedule...
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subbed my man!
really sad story this is. you can just hope he will get his problems fixed anytime in his life and accepting help he might need but before all this happening he just have to realize that he is ****ing sick of this ****. people like him dont see anything in their life which does not suprise me by his behaviour. i was in the same situation like this for years having a roomate with same problems.
really sad story this is. you can just hope he will get his problems fixed anytime in his life and accepting help he might need but before all this happening he just have to realize that he is ****ing sick of this ****. people like him dont see anything in their life which does not suprise me by his behaviour. i was in the same situation like this for years having a roomate with same problems.
I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive. I appreciate the how disruptive a gambling addiction can be, but that doesn't excuse certain actions/lack of remorse!
It’s probably not what you want to hear, but he’s at the mercy of his own disease and it has everything to do with that and not with him being scum (although he might be anyways, idk). I’ve had a way-too-high number of experiences with this sad stuff.
1. Usually everything he said to you while trying to cover his ass will have turned out to be a lie. That includes the story about the fight, him getting banned, etc. Addicts will go to ridiculous lengths to make up lies about the (usually boring) reason why they lost the money.
2. In the future just ask around in the forums before making decisions like this when backing people. I knew from the 2nd paragraph where this story was going. Literally every single person would have told you staking someone with a gambling problem to do more gambling is never a good idea. I think everyone I know who has been involved in this world has a story like yours to go with it. As it is, it sounds like he has had the capability to pay people back. If he can get over his gambling issue and you remain in touch I would bet you will see your money back one day too. When the smoke clears just talk to him and come up with an easy payment plan.
3. I know this sucks to hear but 2k pounds is a cheap price to pay in this situation. My good friend had a friend/horse that he was living with for years who lied about every bankroll on every site, doctored screenshots, etc to the tune of 150k. Was just the quietest guy and never had any reason to suspect. Anyways it’s a real sickness and it’s out of the guys control and you did the right thing by moving out. Too many times people have to get worse than before getting better and it sounds like he’s deservedly got a pile of **** to climb out of. Hopefully he will seek help and get better bc of it.
If you can find it in your heart, realize that he has a lifelong disease to grapple with that’s capable of taking everything from him. He’s going to have to change everything in his life (including his job at the gambling shop) in order to beat it, and until he does it will screw up his ability to live a happy life, he will lose everything and everyone around him.
Either way sorry this happened to you. Great storytelling as always though!!! You’ve got a super entertaining writing style
1. Usually everything he said to you while trying to cover his ass will have turned out to be a lie. That includes the story about the fight, him getting banned, etc. Addicts will go to ridiculous lengths to make up lies about the (usually boring) reason why they lost the money.
2. In the future just ask around in the forums before making decisions like this when backing people. I knew from the 2nd paragraph where this story was going. Literally every single person would have told you staking someone with a gambling problem to do more gambling is never a good idea. I think everyone I know who has been involved in this world has a story like yours to go with it. As it is, it sounds like he has had the capability to pay people back. If he can get over his gambling issue and you remain in touch I would bet you will see your money back one day too. When the smoke clears just talk to him and come up with an easy payment plan.
3. I know this sucks to hear but 2k pounds is a cheap price to pay in this situation. My good friend had a friend/horse that he was living with for years who lied about every bankroll on every site, doctored screenshots, etc to the tune of 150k. Was just the quietest guy and never had any reason to suspect. Anyways it’s a real sickness and it’s out of the guys control and you did the right thing by moving out. Too many times people have to get worse than before getting better and it sounds like he’s deservedly got a pile of **** to climb out of. Hopefully he will seek help and get better bc of it.
If you can find it in your heart, realize that he has a lifelong disease to grapple with that’s capable of taking everything from him. He’s going to have to change everything in his life (including his job at the gambling shop) in order to beat it, and until he does it will screw up his ability to live a happy life, he will lose everything and everyone around him.
Either way sorry this happened to you. Great storytelling as always though!!! You’ve got a super entertaining writing style
Crazy ****ing story. Must be a super stressful situation to be in chasing around this money being told different stories everytime. I guess the painful parts are like going for dinner and him knowing he's gonna scum you right after that and also him just acting like nothing his happened is not only tilting but also probably means he just needs a lot of help. I'll be at the same cash race this weekend funnily enough.
Anyway yeah I hope he eventually he realises how badly he's ****ed up because right now it just seems like denial has taken over when he doesn't get how bad things were.
PS that journey from London to Inverness would put me on astro tilt.
Anyway yeah I hope he eventually he realises how badly he's ****ed up because right now it just seems like denial has taken over when he doesn't get how bad things were.
PS that journey from London to Inverness would put me on astro tilt.
He got £1100 for a £400 stake, dunno if all that £1100 was profit or what. I suspect it was insta-reinvested tho.
Good choice on cutting him out of your life and moving out asap. He's obv got a problem but that isn't your problem. For him to take no responsibility and not be apologetic at all it seems unlikely he pays you so prob best just forget about it and if the money somehow comes back then great. Prob a learning moment though in terms of choosing to stake him. Past stealing and degeneracy along with it being a stake for micros was unlikely to ever end well. What do you think his hourly was playing those games, I assume not a lot and he was bound to steal when he couldn't make money to fund his life/degeneracy.
stake me pls! Hope you're well bud x
***I have swapped the $109 from 13th Sept to 06th Sept (today), 150k gtd to 500k gtd, anyone who has bought a piece that has an issue with it feel free to make your feelings known, otherwise I'll switch em!***
MTTs - played the $22 and gg'd 2nd level, 3bet 88 pre vs a fish, he called, JT2r flop went x/x, he lead on 9 turn and potted 7 river. Sigh but hey ho. Played the $55 and busted just before end of reg. Played ok, just no spots. Also a Twitch viewer offered to flick me into the $215HU as a 20/80 freeroll, humbly accepted but lost in the 1st round after 4betting A5s for 60bb and running into KK, A95 flop... K turn woulda been a great story!
Rly pleased to have a winning day at 100z, things were tough for a while there. Couple of quick hands...
Was in no mood to fold
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $194.66 (194.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $153.79 (153.8 bb)
UTG: $105.50 (105.5 bb)
MP: $479.57 (479.6 bb)
CO: $175.40 (175.4 bb)
BTN: $67.04 (67 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, CO calls $9.50
Flop: ($25.50) J 4 J (2 players)
Hero bets $7.99, CO calls $7.99
Turn: ($41.48) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $17, Hero calls $17
River: ($75.48) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $137.91 and is all-in, Hero calls $116.30 and is all-in
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SB: $194.66 (194.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $153.79 (153.8 bb)
UTG: $105.50 (105.5 bb)
MP: $479.57 (479.6 bb)
CO: $175.40 (175.4 bb)
BTN: $67.04 (67 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, CO calls $9.50
Flop: ($25.50) J 4 J (2 players)
Hero bets $7.99, CO calls $7.99
Turn: ($41.48) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $17, Hero calls $17
River: ($75.48) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $137.91 and is all-in, Hero calls $116.30 and is all-in
Spoiler:
Results: $308.08 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: J 4 J 2 7
Hero showed K K and won $305.58 ($151.79 net)
CO showed A Q and lost (-$153.79 net)
Final Board: J 4 J 2 7
Hero showed K K and won $305.58 ($151.79 net)
CO showed A Q and lost (-$153.79 net)
Yucky vs aggro reg
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SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $147.27 (147.3 bb)
UTG: $67.38 (67.4 bb)
MP: $119 (119 bb)
Hero (CO): $366.04 (366 bb)
BTN: $90.48 (90.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $7.50
Flop: ($20.50) 4 2 7 (2 players)
BB bets $10.13, Hero calls $10.13
Turn: ($40.76) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50
River: ($91.76) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $101.64 and is all-in, Hero calls $101.64
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SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $147.27 (147.3 bb)
UTG: $67.38 (67.4 bb)
MP: $119 (119 bb)
Hero (CO): $366.04 (366 bb)
BTN: $90.48 (90.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $7.50
Flop: ($20.50) 4 2 7 (2 players)
BB bets $10.13, Hero calls $10.13
Turn: ($40.76) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50
River: ($91.76) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $101.64 and is all-in, Hero calls $101.64
Spoiler:
Results: $295.04 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 4 2 7 2 3
BB showed 6 5 and won $292.54 ($145.27 net)
Hero showed T T and lost (-$147.27 net)
Final Board: 4 2 7 2 3
BB showed 6 5 and won $292.54 ($145.27 net)
Hero showed T T and lost (-$147.27 net)
100z regs I mean what the ****ing ****
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SB: $171.08 (171.1 bb)
BB: $163.92 (163.9 bb)
UTG: $122.19 (122.2 bb)
MP: $104.06 (104.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $122.62 (122.6 bb)
BTN: $43.92 (43.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $13, MP folds, Hero calls $10
Flop: ($29.50) 8 6 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.75, BB raises to $23.77, Hero calls $15.02
Turn: ($77.04) Q (2 players)
BB bets $24.60, Hero calls $24.60
River: ($126.24) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $102.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $61.25 and is all-in
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SB: $171.08 (171.1 bb)
BB: $163.92 (163.9 bb)
UTG: $122.19 (122.2 bb)
MP: $104.06 (104.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $122.62 (122.6 bb)
BTN: $43.92 (43.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $13, MP folds, Hero calls $10
Flop: ($29.50) 8 6 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.75, BB raises to $23.77, Hero calls $15.02
Turn: ($77.04) Q (2 players)
BB bets $24.60, Hero calls $24.60
River: ($126.24) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $102.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $61.25 and is all-in
Spoiler:
Results: $248.74 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 8 6 2 Q 2
BB showed A K and lost (-$122.62 net)
Hero showed 8 8 and won $246.24 ($123.62 net)
Final Board: 8 6 2 Q 2
BB showed A K and lost (-$122.62 net)
Hero showed 8 8 and won $246.24 ($123.62 net)
Had this guy tagged as a reg, hence the 3b, obvs not lol
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SB: $107.94 (107.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $126.37 (126.4 bb)
UTG: $131.51 (131.5 bb)
MP: $142.83 (142.8 bb)
CO: $121.74 (121.7 bb)
BTN: $84.80 (84.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 3
4 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $6
Flop: ($18) 8 K 3 (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero calls $10
Turn: ($38) Q (2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls $18
River: ($74) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $70.94 and is all-in, Hero calls $70.94
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SB: $107.94 (107.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $126.37 (126.4 bb)
UTG: $131.51 (131.5 bb)
MP: $142.83 (142.8 bb)
CO: $121.74 (121.7 bb)
BTN: $84.80 (84.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 3
4 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $6
Flop: ($18) 8 K 3 (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero calls $10
Turn: ($38) Q (2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls $18
River: ($74) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $70.94 and is all-in, Hero calls $70.94
Spoiler:
Results: $215.88 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 8 K 3 Q 6
SB showed 5 A and lost (-$107.94 net)
Hero showed 6 3 and won $213.38 ($105.44 net)
Final Board: 8 K 3 Q 6
SB showed 5 A and lost (-$107.94 net)
Hero showed 6 3 and won $213.38 ($105.44 net)
Sigh call vs the min 4b, sigh gii, horrible hand to be up against equity wise!
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SB: $285.26 (285.3 bb)
BB: $102.75 (102.8 bb)
UTG: $123.40 (123.4 bb)
MP: $54.47 (54.5 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $178 (178 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 5
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, CO raises to $16, Hero calls $7
Flop: ($33.50) 5 6 7 (2 players)
CO bets $18, Hero raises to $162 and is all-in, CO calls $66 and is all-in
Turn: ($201.50) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($201.50) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
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SB: $285.26 (285.3 bb)
BB: $102.75 (102.8 bb)
UTG: $123.40 (123.4 bb)
MP: $54.47 (54.5 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $178 (178 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 5
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, CO raises to $16, Hero calls $7
Flop: ($33.50) 5 6 7 (2 players)
CO bets $18, Hero raises to $162 and is all-in, CO calls $66 and is all-in
Turn: ($201.50) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($201.50) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $201.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 6 7 6 T
CO showed 9 7 and won $199 ($99 net)
Hero showed 4 5 and lost (-$100 net)
Final Board: 5 6 7 6 T
CO showed 9 7 and won $199 ($99 net)
Hero showed 4 5 and lost (-$100 net)
Trying to push a fish about, couldn't put him on that!
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SB: $221.85 (221.9 bb)
BB: $93.83 (93.8 bb)
UTG: $141.15 (141.2 bb)
MP: $123.18 (123.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $79.85 (79.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with T J
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50
Flop: ($5.50) K 3 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.72, BB calls $1.72
Turn: ($8.94) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50
River: ($31.94) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $84.28 and is all-in, BB calls $78.11 and is all-in
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SB: $221.85 (221.9 bb)
BB: $93.83 (93.8 bb)
UTG: $141.15 (141.2 bb)
MP: $123.18 (123.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $79.85 (79.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with T J
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50
Flop: ($5.50) K 3 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.72, BB calls $1.72
Turn: ($8.94) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50
River: ($31.94) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $84.28 and is all-in, BB calls $78.11 and is all-in
Spoiler:
Results: $188.16 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: K 3 7 A J
BB showed A A and won $185.66 ($91.83 net)
Hero showed T J and lost (-$93.83 net)
Final Board: K 3 7 A J
BB showed A A and won $185.66 ($91.83 net)
Hero showed T J and lost (-$93.83 net)
Crushed this fkn ant
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Hero (SB): $111.69 (111.7 bb)
BB: $107.21 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $138.89 (138.9 bb)
CO: $97 (97 bb)
BTN: $109.11 (109.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6) K 6 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.88, BB raises to $8.69, Hero calls $6.81
Turn: ($23.38) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $15.99, Hero calls $15.99
River: ($55.36) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $16.92, Hero raises to $84.01 and is all-in, BB folds
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Hero (SB): $111.69 (111.7 bb)
BB: $107.21 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $138.89 (138.9 bb)
CO: $97 (97 bb)
BTN: $109.11 (109.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6) K 6 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.88, BB raises to $8.69, Hero calls $6.81
Turn: ($23.38) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $15.99, Hero calls $15.99
River: ($55.36) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $16.92, Hero raises to $84.01 and is all-in, BB folds
Spoiler:
Results: $89.20 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: K 6 8 4 A
Hero mucked 9 9 and won $86.70 ($42.10 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$44.60 net)
Final Board: K 6 8 4 A
Hero mucked 9 9 and won $86.70 ($42.10 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$44.60 net)
This autopilot 3bet escalated quickly
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Hero (SB): $111.18 (111.2 bb)
BB: $186.69 (186.7 bb)
UTG: $205.07 (205.1 bb)
MP: $77.98 (78 bb)
CO: $147.76 (147.8 bb)
BTN: $108.27 (108.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, BTN calls $9
Flop: ($25) J 5 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.84, BTN calls $7.84
Turn: ($40.68) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $23.51, BTN calls $23.51
River: ($87.70) K (2 players)
Hero bets $67.83 and is all-in, BTN folds
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Hero (SB): $111.18 (111.2 bb)
BB: $186.69 (186.7 bb)
UTG: $205.07 (205.1 bb)
MP: $77.98 (78 bb)
CO: $147.76 (147.8 bb)
BTN: $108.27 (108.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, BTN calls $9
Flop: ($25) J 5 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.84, BTN calls $7.84
Turn: ($40.68) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $23.51, BTN calls $23.51
River: ($87.70) K (2 players)
Hero bets $67.83 and is all-in, BTN folds
Spoiler:
Results: $87.70 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: J 5 2 9 K
Hero mucked 7 A and won $85.20 ($41.85 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$43.35 net)
Final Board: J 5 2 9 K
Hero mucked 7 A and won $85.20 ($41.85 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$43.35 net)
Dunno what ur reppin m8 but u should never have a set here
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $58.68 (58.7 bb)
UTG: $153.05 (153.1 bb)
MP: $139.18 (139.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $410.41 (410.4 bb)
BTN: $103.20 (103.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2, BB folds
Flop: ($6) 5 8 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.76, SB raises to $15, Hero calls $11.24
Turn: ($36) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $21.50, Hero raises to $98.70, SB folds
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SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $58.68 (58.7 bb)
UTG: $153.05 (153.1 bb)
MP: $139.18 (139.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $410.41 (410.4 bb)
BTN: $103.20 (103.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2, BB folds
Flop: ($6) 5 8 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.76, SB raises to $15, Hero calls $11.24
Turn: ($36) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $21.50, Hero raises to $98.70, SB folds
Spoiler:
Results: $79.00 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 8 4 2
SB mucked and lost (-$39 net)
Hero mucked 7 7 and won $76.50 ($37.50 net)
Final Board: 5 8 4 2
SB mucked and lost (-$39 net)
Hero mucked 7 7 and won $76.50 ($37.50 net)
Redline 4 lyf
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
Hero (SB): $104.30 (104.3 bb)
BB: $71.72 (71.7 bb)
UTG: $135.76 (135.8 bb)
MP: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
CO: $204.87 (204.9 bb)
BTN: $88.60 (88.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, MP calls $7.50
Flop: ($21) Q 6 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.58, MP calls $6.58
Turn: ($34.16) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $21.42, MP calls $21.42
River: ($77) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $66.30 and is all-in, MP folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
Hero (SB): $104.30 (104.3 bb)
BB: $71.72 (71.7 bb)
UTG: $135.76 (135.8 bb)
MP: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
CO: $204.87 (204.9 bb)
BTN: $88.60 (88.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, MP calls $7.50
Flop: ($21) Q 6 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.58, MP calls $6.58
Turn: ($34.16) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $21.42, MP calls $21.42
River: ($77) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $66.30 and is all-in, MP folds
Spoiler:
Results: $77.00 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: Q 6 3 8 3
Hero mucked K A and won $74.50 ($36.50 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$38 net)
Final Board: Q 6 3 8 3
Hero mucked K A and won $74.50 ($36.50 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$38 net)
Ok that'll suffice, WCOOP so far and tomorrow's schedule...
https://gyazo.com/c10e50ad17c91c3c4bbbbdb758176058
Thanks for the ban in the stream spazzyb didn't even get the chance to talk after mentioning mirage. It seems you have gone down the marketing road in poker with coaching/streaming as many other average regs have to resort to stay in the game, Probably a smart choice as you appear to be a likable guy (lovable idiot). Strange thing is you only have a graph of 250k hands claiming to beat 100z at 7bb? from 2017>now, for a guy that use to grind 1mil+ hands a year that seems odd and it probably tells me that the rest of your sample over this time was not worth showing/deleted out of your db. Now you can tell me you were playing live or some other bs but 250k~ hands online in almost 2 years from you is hard to believe, your sheep following will help defend you anyway. Also don't pull the ''he's obsessed with me'' crap I barely open this site/have not posted in a year. Now I can understand dental is expensive and you don't want to spend $ fixing that big gap between your teeth....but cmon 2nl grinders in 3rd world countries are not sitting on wooden stools. You started this thread what almost 5 years ago at 50nl? and now you're at 100nl keep up the good work pce.
Strange thing is you only have a graph of 250k hands claiming to beat 100z at 7bb? from 2017>now, for a guy that use to grind 1mil+ hands a year that seems odd and it probably tells me that the rest of your sample over this time was not worth showing/deleted out of your db. Now you can tell me you were playing live or some other bs but 250k~ hands online in almost 2 years from you is hard to believe
Also, say I had grinded on Stars in 2015 and 2016 and hadn't beaten 100z for the 7bb I do today, so what? Would your argument genuinely be "AHAHA YOU USED TO BE BAD AT 100Z AND NOW YOU BEAT IT REALLY WELL OMFG". Think about that for a minute.
Reeks of jealousy to me
Now, you can either reply to this post and I'll annihilate you once more, or like last time you can leave with your tail between your legs after yet another spanking by the great Gazzy****ingB
Edit - https://gyazo.com/0867c890468ad3c420bfe68db7fe8ade - y u tryin to be all nicey nicey on twitch chat after being banned but trying to look clever in here? You've been utterly rekt mate!
I'm a very nice guy obv, not a hater yet. Impressive to see how fast you come to save your image though and why would anyone brag about midstakes? Aussies don't have a lot of options poker wise(online). I mean you're playing 100nl and are a charity case surrounded by people a lot better than you, I have guitars worth more than you ***** chill....you aint a baller. Post some real samples and stop pretending to be a crusher to your ''small audience'', you're even dumber than I thought if you're not making any $ off twitch/socials. Mum jokes died a long time ago also you can do better GappyB.
Hate to come across a tad bit xenophobic, but from my experience failed aussie poker players tend to be disproportionately ****ish. Maybe it's because it's such a sporting hotbed so the average aussie who instead turns to poker and then fails is prob a genetically challenged gimp who has to then deal with the realisation that they don't make up for it by being gifted on the felt?
Just a (most likely ******ed) shellysashes crackpot theory of course.
Just a (most likely ******ed) shellysashes crackpot theory of course.
Love you
Sorry to hear you got stiffed, although I am a bit surprised by your naivity in this case, since it is gambling degenerates like the guy you staked that makes up a good % of your paycheck. In this case I think you did the right thing by cutting ties to this guy, and just write it off as a loss. I mean, you knew from the start that he had a gambling problem, and then he did what gambling degens do - lost a bit degening, didn't win at the poker tables, tried to get back to even by gambling more and didn't bink.
You have to realise that what he is saying about gambling to give you your money back is most likely true in his mind, most gamblers are able to rationalise things in these ways. Everything he told you and the way he has reacted and acted are just classical examples of this and, at least in my opinion, says nothing about him as a person - just based on these actions you can't really classify him as a prick/non-prick/scammer/non-scammer etc.
In the future, if you ever enter into staking deals, make sure that the person you stake does not have any history of any sort of compulsive gambling, unless it is a stake for a session/tournament with you at the casino at the same time (then he would have to be an utter degen beyond all saving to attempt some ****, although that isn't unheard of either).
In all seriousness, staking a gambling addict and being surprised that he eventually degens off all/part of your stake is basically like having an alcoholic who has been clean for a week or two going to the shop to buy booze for you and then being surprised when he goes off the rails and drinks your booze himself instead of bringing it home.
And as I mentioned at the start of my post, keep in mind that people like him are to a large extent the same people that pay your bills - that might help you accept the loss mentally. Sure, you can tell yourself that the guy punting of stacks at 10/20 is just a "well-off guy wanting to have fun and splash around", and that might be true, although more often than not he will have some sort of addiction problems - be they severe or mild, but most non-addicts somehow don't blow that kind of money at a poker table "just for fun".
You have to realise that what he is saying about gambling to give you your money back is most likely true in his mind, most gamblers are able to rationalise things in these ways. Everything he told you and the way he has reacted and acted are just classical examples of this and, at least in my opinion, says nothing about him as a person - just based on these actions you can't really classify him as a prick/non-prick/scammer/non-scammer etc.
In the future, if you ever enter into staking deals, make sure that the person you stake does not have any history of any sort of compulsive gambling, unless it is a stake for a session/tournament with you at the casino at the same time (then he would have to be an utter degen beyond all saving to attempt some ****, although that isn't unheard of either).
In all seriousness, staking a gambling addict and being surprised that he eventually degens off all/part of your stake is basically like having an alcoholic who has been clean for a week or two going to the shop to buy booze for you and then being surprised when he goes off the rails and drinks your booze himself instead of bringing it home.
And as I mentioned at the start of my post, keep in mind that people like him are to a large extent the same people that pay your bills - that might help you accept the loss mentally. Sure, you can tell yourself that the guy punting of stacks at 10/20 is just a "well-off guy wanting to have fun and splash around", and that might be true, although more often than not he will have some sort of addiction problems - be they severe or mild, but most non-addicts somehow don't blow that kind of money at a poker table "just for fun".
I'm a very nice guy obv, not a hater yet. Impressive to see how fast you come to save your image though and why would anyone brag about midstakes? Aussies don't have a lot of options poker wise(online). I mean you're playing 100nl and are a charity case surrounded by people a lot better than you, I have guitars worth more than you ***** chill....you aint a baller. Post some real samples and stop pretending to be a crusher to your ''small audience'', you're even dumber than I thought if you're not making any $ off twitch/socials. Mum jokes died a long time ago also you can do better GappyB.
I'm a very nice guy obv, not a hater yet. Impressive to see how fast you come to save your image though and why would anyone brag about midstakes? Aussies don't have a lot of options poker wise(online). I mean you're playing 100nl and are a charity case surrounded by people a lot better than you, I have guitars worth more than you ***** chill....you aint a baller. Post some real samples and stop pretending to be a crusher to your ''small audience'', you're even dumber than I thought if you're not making any $ off twitch/socials. Mum jokes died a long time ago also you can do better GappyB.
Hate to come across a tad bit xenophobic, but from my experience failed aussie poker players tend to be disproportionately ****ish. Maybe it's because it's such a sporting hotbed so the average aussie who instead turns to poker and then fails is prob a genetically challenged gimp who has to then deal with the realisation that they don't make up for it by being gifted on the felt?
Just a (most likely ******ed) shellysashes crackpot theory of course.
Just a (most likely ******ed) shellysashes crackpot theory of course.
Love you more big guy.
Sorry to hear you got stiffed, although I am a bit surprised by your naivity in this case, since it is gambling degenerates like the guy you staked that makes up a good % of your paycheck. In this case I think you did the right thing by cutting ties to this guy, and just write it off as a loss. I mean, you knew from the start that he had a gambling problem, and then he did what gambling degens do - lost a bit degening, didn't win at the poker tables, tried to get back to even by gambling more and didn't bink.
You have to realise that what he is saying about gambling to give you your money back is most likely true in his mind, most gamblers are able to rationalise things in these ways. Everything he told you and the way he has reacted and acted are just classical examples of this and, at least in my opinion, says nothing about him as a person - just based on these actions you can't really classify him as a prick/non-prick/scammer/non-scammer etc.
In the future, if you ever enter into staking deals, make sure that the person you stake does not have any history of any sort of compulsive gambling, unless it is a stake for a session/tournament with you at the casino at the same time (then he would have to be an utter degen beyond all saving to attempt some ****, although that isn't unheard of either).
In all seriousness, staking a gambling addict and being surprised that he eventually degens off all/part of your stake is basically like having an alcoholic who has been clean for a week or two going to the shop to buy booze for you and then being surprised when he goes off the rails and drinks your booze himself instead of bringing it home.
And as I mentioned at the start of my post, keep in mind that people like him are to a large extent the same people that pay your bills - that might help you accept the loss mentally. Sure, you can tell yourself that the guy punting of stacks at 10/20 is just a "well-off guy wanting to have fun and splash around", and that might be true, although more often than not he will have some sort of addiction problems - be they severe or mild, but most non-addicts somehow don't blow that kind of money at a poker table "just for fun".
You have to realise that what he is saying about gambling to give you your money back is most likely true in his mind, most gamblers are able to rationalise things in these ways. Everything he told you and the way he has reacted and acted are just classical examples of this and, at least in my opinion, says nothing about him as a person - just based on these actions you can't really classify him as a prick/non-prick/scammer/non-scammer etc.
In the future, if you ever enter into staking deals, make sure that the person you stake does not have any history of any sort of compulsive gambling, unless it is a stake for a session/tournament with you at the casino at the same time (then he would have to be an utter degen beyond all saving to attempt some ****, although that isn't unheard of either).
In all seriousness, staking a gambling addict and being surprised that he eventually degens off all/part of your stake is basically like having an alcoholic who has been clean for a week or two going to the shop to buy booze for you and then being surprised when he goes off the rails and drinks your booze himself instead of bringing it home.
And as I mentioned at the start of my post, keep in mind that people like him are to a large extent the same people that pay your bills - that might help you accept the loss mentally. Sure, you can tell yourself that the guy punting of stacks at 10/20 is just a "well-off guy wanting to have fun and splash around", and that might be true, although more often than not he will have some sort of addiction problems - be they severe or mild, but most non-addicts somehow don't blow that kind of money at a poker table "just for fun".
Woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, dunno if y'all can tell.
Almost like a tasty 2.0 on your hands Gazzy, seems like you draw alot of negative attention for whatever reason... Must be doing something right.
Thanks for the ban in the stream spazzyb didn't even get the chance to talk after mentioning mirage. It seems you have gone down the marketing road in poker with coaching/streaming as many other average regs have to resort to stay in the game, Probably a smart choice as you appear to be a likable guy (lovable idiot). Strange thing is you only have a graph of 250k hands claiming to beat 100z at 7bb? from 2017>now, for a guy that use to grind 1mil+ hands a year that seems odd and it probably tells me that the rest of your sample over this time was not worth showing/deleted out of your db. Now you can tell me you were playing live or some other bs but 250k~ hands online in almost 2 years from you is hard to believe, your sheep following will help defend you anyway. Also don't pull the ''he's obsessed with me'' crap I barely open this site/have not posted in a year. Now I can understand dental is expensive and you don't want to spend $ fixing that big gap between your teeth....but cmon 2nl grinders in 3rd world countries are not sitting on wooden stools. You started this thread what almost 5 years ago at 50nl? and now you're at 100nl keep up the good work pce.
lol
so glad I found this thread... thourougly entertaining!!!!
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