Hi.

Nice session.

I think a lot depends on his 3 bet frequency. If it's is small I would fold. If it's large I would probably 4 bet and fold to a 5 bet pre flop

As for the river not sure what line they are taking very strange. Again it all depends on the opposition are they are fish just betting the strength of thier hand with no regard for the board texture. Or are they are thinking opponent raising for value. Possible they made A6/A9 and hasn't eaten noticed the flush.

I would try to keep thins pretty simple at these stakes especially on ipoker

Ya i agree with you about 4-beting or folding when he makes a normal 3-bet sizing. But he made it so small getting almost 4 to 1.

Honestly the more i think about it the more i think he just had a small-mid range flush. Once i call the flop and he has Diamonds checking the turn is a good option for him.

He doesn't want to get check raised if i slow played a big hand (though i wouldn't, many 25nl players would, then check raise turn) and/or my hand looks like JJ,QQ,A10s,K10s that don't want to fold on that turn anyways so a check is good.

Then i pot and though he obv doesn't have the nut flush cuz i block that he may just be jamming all J and Q high flushes at 25nl. There is a chance he is a wizard and/or complete donk and bluff jammed but its unlikely.

I'll find out later today though what he jammed since i can download the history and let you know

Thanks for the input dude!

Hello and welcome back my fellow self torturers! As always i hope the grind has treated you with kindness and understanding! Nah, Imagine? haha

SO i didn't do a journal for Wednesdays grind yet and therefore i will do a wrap up of my last two grinds in one! You didn't think it could be done, but check me out.

I could sum up my last two grinds with one word, that word being "****". No i don't mean this in a pleasant manner i mean it in the more urban dictionary type of way. I have had quite a ruff go of it. My grind on Wednesday was just full of coolers, bad decisions, and silly bluffs.

I was not on my A game and I'm choosing to just pretend like it didn't happen. Of course I've learned from mistakes to the best of my abilities but I'm going to leave the memory of it behind me. That being said we ended that sesh down just shy of 2 buy-ins.

Today's grind was also quite unpleasant. It started ok and i was up two buy-ins about half way through and then was forced to fold a set of Q's 200 BB's deep on the river. This hand I do plan on posting BUT i thought it would be fun to wait 24hrs when I'm able to download the whole cards and include whether I am a sicko or a ******. Stand-by for that, should be fun.

Two hands after this on the same table I flop a set of 10s and get it on the turn against a nuted straight on a 2-flush board. I'll go ahead and post this hand as well tomorrow along with the previously mentioned hand. But think we will find that a fold was in order and i let the previous QQ hand get to my decision making.

That being said i continued on with the rest of my grind without any decisions being negatively effected. We continued to run pretty bad. Getting it in against half stacks as large favorites unknowings to me that they had their Nikes on for that runner runner bullshizznizz. When all was said and done we found ourselves down for the day $22. Considering we ran $44 under EV I guess i'll take it.

Quick questions for any wizards in the thread what does it mean that my red line is always horridly down and my show downs up? There is probably no easy answer to that question but it seems im always put in wierd spots where i feel i have to peel flop and then fold the turn with continued aggression.

This is particularly true in the BB. The BB is also my only losing postions down down $185 in that spot ALONE. Looks like i'll be doing some research on why that might be. In the meantime i've tried calling less and instead either raising or folding. Just so hard to fold when you're so often given a good price to call in the micros. (min raising, lots of flat callers, and so on..).

After my grind i was watching Aussie Millions and decided to fire up some HU SNGs. I've grinded these for a small sample in the past and won at a 58% win rate so i may throw it them in from time to time at half the buy in I'm currently playing in cash. Took down 2/2 with a nice little $19 profit if you count the rake.

Well it is late and I'm ready to drift into the wonderful world of the subconscious. Thanks everyone who has come by and left a comment or stopped into my stream and mentioned they'd been in here.(that happened today, was very cool). Goodnight!

Stake: 25nl, $10 HU SNG
Bankroll: $614
1/25-26 Results:-$53
Hands Played: ~9000
Win Rate: 8.5bb/100

negative redline is standard.

Hey everyone I'm latet to getting to my grind today so i'll keep this short. Last nights session ended up $39 and had a particularly interesting hand i wanted to post. I have the opponents whole cards as well and will expose them in my next journal. Hopefully we will get some guesses as to what he had first!

Also quickly before i do that I hit 10k hands last night and wanted to post my 10k hands graph so i'll do that now.



So here is the hand. I'm going to wait to talk about what I was thinking until i get some feedback on the hand. So without further ado here is the nastiest QQ fold.



As always thanks for stopping by and i hope the grind treats you with kindness and understanding! nah, imagine?

Stake: 25nl, $10 HU SNG
Bankroll: $653
1/27 Results:+$39
Hands Played: 10.3k
Win Rate: 9.5bb/100

If you think he can shove TT there then you have to call btw. You lose to (4) combos of 98s. Your pot odds are just over 25% so if he has 2 weaker hands in his range either as value or bluffs you need to call.

Im new at this but wouldn't i be calling something like $23(did math in head real quick prob off a few bucks) to win $51? So more like 2 to 1 or 50% odds or am i doing something wrong?

Oh and btw villain had 67dd

You need to call 18.95 to win a pot of (27.4 + 27.4 + 16.90).

Pot odds are 18.95 / (71.7) = 26.4%

You lose to 4 combos of 98s

You need him to have x combos of bluffs or worse value hands to profitably call river

x/(4+x) = 0.264

x = 0.264(x+4)
x = 0.264*x + 1.05
0.736x = 1.05
x = 1.42


So if he has a bit more than 1.5 bluff or value hand its a call. Also, he can EASILY ship sets here. When you're thinking about whether or not to call if you beat some of his value range it's usually a slam dunk call.

ok im just confused. 38.97-.75=38.22-1.50=36.72-4.95=31.77-8.45=$23.32 not $18.95. Or am i trippin. Also the pot is 16.90 and that is not including the 8.45 i bet before he shipped. Im so lost where you're getting these numbers

(1) How much do you have to call?

(2) What is the amount the pot will be if you do call?

(1) / (2)

required equity (RE) in an end of action spot is

RE = amount to call/(amount to call + total pot)

RE = 18.86/(18.86 + 52.75)

RE = 18.86/71.61

RE = 0.26 (or 26%)

This is pretty basic poker math...no offence, but is 25nl wise if you haven't nailed basic math?

and yeah, that QQ is never a fold.

PS you don't need to work this out at the table...a small chart will give you the main break points.

If you fold QQ there, what hands do you call with? The runout is great to valuebet AQ/KK+, 77/TT/QQ for 3 streets, barrel AK as bluffs. If you raise 89s UTG then that's 4 combinations vs all the other stuff you have as value let alone bluffs. He is supposed to raise all his sets and add a few combinations of 88/99 as bluffs so not only do you beat almost all of his value there aren't even hands in your range that you can call with if you fold QQ.

You don't have a hand that is in the close call/fold regime where you even need to consider pot odds. First because you have the top top of your range and you're beating so much of his value that your equity should be 50%+.

I was asking where he got the 27.4+27.4 because as you stated the pot was 25.35+27.4/ Also btw im not calling $18.86 im calling $23.32. Which is why i was asking where he got the 18.86 from. I'm rusty at this as i took several months off and wanted to make sure i wasn't crazy in getting different numbers.

He was probably just estimating but as someone who is very rusty i wanted to be sure for my own sake

If you do the math it ends up being .30 (not that it matters.)

Link to said chart if you don't mind? Thanks!

You make some very good points. I guess when it came down to it i was making an exploitative fold against what the stats was showing as a very tight player. I don't always make folds like this which is why i posted it because it was out of the ordinary. Obvi i didn't think it through like you just laid out, which makes me feel ******ed for folding. But hey that is why I'm here, to learn. So thank you

So, guess I'll just be posting standard hands where we make standard plays that way i don't get berated. lol Kidding..ish. Anyhow the grind last night was pretty wild as you might expect for a Saturday night.

Had some really bad coolers getting AA in for 100bbs on 632 flop against 55 and losing to a set on the river. Also getting QQ in on a A42 board against 64cc against a half stack, losing on the turn to a two pair. Then getting KK in for 100bbs standard on a J high board. Such is life as a poker wannabe!

Just tough to take sometimes as the night could have gone soooo much better! But when all was said and done we still ended the night up $43 and played a cool 1025 hands! Looking forward to tonight's grind and may even throw in some small tourneys on the side! As always I hope the grind treats you with kindness and understanding. Nah, Imagine?

Stake: 25nl, $10 HU SNG
Bankroll: $697.24
1/27 Results:+$43
Hands Played: 11.3k
Win Rate: 9.8bb/100

No, your math is still wrong. The final pot is everything. You have BTN covered and he jammed 27.4, so just ignore the fact you already have some money in as a bet. It's 27.4 + 27.4 + the current pot (16.90) to get the final total = 71.70. The amount you have to call is 27.4 - 8.45 = 18.95

18.95/71.70 is still 26.4%

The chart he's referring to is simply what your pot odds are facing different sized bets. It'd be less useful here facing a raise as it is less standard. The math is quite simple in basically all spots unless you're in some multiway situations with side pots, so you should be able to do the math in your head within 10 seconds probably. Charts just help you commit it to memory. The next step is to range your opponent and yourself, count combinations, and determine whether the equity you have is enough vs. his range of bluffs/better hands.

Kelvis was saying you're just too high up in your range to consider folding basically. But, sometimes that doesn't matter and we can make very exploitative folds/calls with reads.

1/2psb = 1/2/(1/2 + 1/2 + 1) = 0.250
2/3psb = (2/3)/(2/3 + 2/3 + 1) = 0.285
1psb = 1/(1 + 1 + 1) = 0.333
1.5psb = (1.5)/(1.5+1.5+1) = 0.375
2psb = 2/(2+2+1) = 0.400
infinite psb = infinity/(infinite + 1) = ~0.50

Keep it up man. You are almost to your 4 figure mark!!

Cheers man. Happy Grinding. See you in stream.

oohhhh ok im ******ed, wow. Thanks for taking the time to explain everything i really appreciate that!

Hello every one! How are we doing on this fine evening?? As always i hope the grind has treated you with kindness and understanding. Nah, Imagine?

So My grind on 1/29 was a ruff one for me. We did end +$17 but i could have been so much more. I always seem to peek somewhere around the 800 hand mark and then in the last 200 hands all the coolers come through.

I'm not going to spend any time talking about the coolers as we are all poker players and we have out own bad beats to worry about. Needless to say i decided a day off poker would be in my best interest as i was feeling a little frustrated. I was ahead of schedule 1k hands already so figured why not.

So yesterday I didn't play any 25nl cash i just took care of somethings i wanted to do around the house, played some video games, and just didn't worry about the grind. Towards the end of the night i thought it would be fun just to hop into a couple tables of 10nl HU cash for funzies.

I stacked a couple shorties and ended up $12. Decided to take that and see what i could do with it in random SNGs just hangin out and havin fun. Played a couple $5 HU SNGs and broke even. Then played in a $10 and took it down. So i actually ended +$20 just from tooling around and relaxin.

Today i return back to my grind and look forward to it. I'm glad i took the day off the usual four table 25nl grind but am ready to jump back into! GL on the tables 2day and remember to be grateful to be FREE!!!!

Stake: 25nl, $10 HU SNG
Bankroll: $722
1/29-1/30 Results:+$25
Hands Played: 12.3k
Win Rate: 9.8bb/100

Hello every1! It's been almost a week now since my last post i've just not gotten around to it. No i have not gone bust, thank god right? Seriously though its been a good few days.

I think I am like 500 hands behind schedule since when i first started this 1k a day challenge but ive also thrown in some zone today so when i get those hands downloaded tomorrow i may find out im right on track.

Cash since the last time i talked to you guys has been relatively meh. I had a few losing days for one or two buy ins but we are on the come up now! I was breaking even and feeling bored of cash and decided on Friday that i was just going to light up some tournaments and have a tourney day!

Well we took 6th in a 500 GTD flopping bottom straight to nut straight cashing for $38 and then took 2nd in the $10 8k GTD for $1.3k! Pretty sweet right!? Not to mention the last couple days have been good to us in cash and booking small wins!

I took $1.1k of that tourney money off for extra life cushion. I could have kept it on and had 20 buy ins at 100nl but decided the extra cushion would be worth it and also i'd still like to move up through the ranks. Even with taking $1.1k off it still gave us a nice $200 bump to our roll!

Also we have hit 15k hands so I'm going to post that here. Its actually 15.8k and included the 1.4k hands of zone we played, 25nl of course. So here it is!



Well guys as always i hope your grinds treat you with kindness and understanding!!!! Nah, Imagine?


Stake: 25nl, $10 HU SNG
Bankroll: $966(Not including the $1.1k of tourney win that we withdrew)
1/31-2/05 Results:+$1344
Hands Played: 15.8k
Win Rate: 10.6bb/100

Well done man keep it up.

Super sweet day on the tournaments for you. Also getting a little board of cash might try a couple of tournaments if I can find enough quality uninterrupted poker time.

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we know, we come for the lols

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Alright guys It's been just over a week since the last time i posted on here and for good reason. I took about a week off of poker. I did a dummy dumb dumb thing. Last time i posted on here my role was at about $900. Well I went through a horrendous downswing which landed me short about $400 dollars. About $100 of that was from random tourney's here and there.

Needless to say one night after my grind i wanted to let some steam off so i took $120 and short stacked a 400nl table. I was sitting there for some time watching this one whale of a player just dumping and playing worse than anyone I'd seen. He was raising every pot and calling 3-bets then calling down super light trying to hit. So i was patient and and waited for a good hand.

I woke up with QQ on the B and whale player raised 4x from UTG. I potted looking to get it in. He donk led on a 9 high flop so naturally i just jammed for the remainder of my stack. He called off with Q4o. You might ask, was there a 4 on the flop? No, No there was not. He called off with Q high and no straight draw. But of course the turn was a 4 and the river a 4. After this i thought there is no way i can leave this game with him here. I was suppose lose the $120 and call quits but this guy was just soooo bad.

I only had $400 and change left in my account because of the downswing, the $120 i just lost and all the money i withdrew earlier. So i sat with the remaining $400. Was this smart? NO. Was i a little tilted? YES BUT this player was just giving it away and though $400 would be a very tuff beat for my roll, on and off the site, i decided to take the shot.

Not even a couple hands later i woke up with AA, as I'm sure you can imagine this would be my downfall. This time a reg opens from UTG 3x and whale calls. I pot in the cutoff, UTG calls, whale calls. Flop is 783sss. I hold the A of spades. UTG checks, whale leads(as he always does).

I decide I'm ready to get it in with this player givning he's done this with complete air, he could do it with top pair with single spades and on the OFF the occasion he flopped a flush and decided to lead with it i still had the nut flush draw. So I pot his bet, UTG folds, and whale jamms.

WELLLL the whale had 910ss and we needed a spade which didn't come. RIP our bankroll, our dreams, our chance as some yummy whale meat. So i decided to take a week off poker and refresh. This weekend i decided i was ready to get back into the saddle but instead of re depositing on ignition (with the previous cash and tourney winnings) right away i would have some fun and go play a little live poker.

I took $400 as a stop loss and was looking to crush some dinguses and also just have fun with the live human element. It was fun and by the end of a somewhat swingy night i left +$500. If i lived closer to card rooms I'd deff play live more regularly but since I live 2 hours from the nearest I'm just going to stick to online for now.

That being said i have decided to switch up my form of poker on ignition. I love cash and i want to eventually be a cash game grinder primarily but with the rake where it is at the micros I'm going to find alternative ways to build to a point where i can play at a stake that won't crush my winrate so badly.

So I depo $400 on Ignition and I'm going to be playing low stakes tournaments and grinding the HU SNGs while i do it. Ive played HU SNGS up to the $50 dollar mark and over a 500 game sample was able to beat the games at 57% winrate and even better at the lower $10 and $20 limits.

So that is the plan and once i get to where i can play at least 100nl but more likely 200nl where the rake doesn't eat at your hourly NEARLY as much I'll meander back to cash. For those of you wondering when we ended all of our cash and after the horrific downswing we were 21753 Hand in 25nl with a measly $133.02 profit and a bb/100 of 2.45bb/100 But on the bright side with rake not included that's just under 15BB/100. lol Gross

So that is the plan and I'm stickin to it! I still stream on twitch from time to time at twitch.tv/TzurrR. Come by and say Hi!

As always i hope the grind treats you with kindness and understanding! Nah, Imagine?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Stake: Micro Tournaments, $10 HU SNG
Bankroll: $439
2/18/2017: +$39