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Hi I´m a 22 year old dude from Sweden that´s trying to grind my way up the stakes. I started playing poker serioulsly in January this year where I started at 5nl. Took a break from grinding poker during summer but now I'm back and will be playing 25nl. My goal for this thread is to reach 100nl by the end of the year.

I recently reset my db but here's my 25nl results from the last 2 weeks

I can't view this picture myself for some reason (404 error) but I hope everyone else can, someone please let me know

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09-30-2017 , 08:51 PM

UpDog

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Sounds good, but I also cannot view the picture

Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

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09-30-2017 , 09:01 PM

dittoro

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Originally Posted by UpDog

Sounds good, but I also cannot view the picture

https://imgur.com/a/jKbZH

I guess I have to post links until I figure it out

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10-01-2017 , 07:14 AM

7ckngTilt

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which sites do you play on? svenskaspel? i am also playing at NL10-25 currently

glgl!

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10-01-2017 , 07:59 AM

PandaLife

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Hey man, cool to see you have a thread now. gl!

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Originally Posted by dittoro

https://imgur.com/a/jKbZH

I guess I have to post links until I figure it out

Right click image in the imgur post, and click 'copy image adress'

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10-02-2017 , 03:41 PM

dittoro

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Originally Posted by 7ckngTilt

which sites do you play on? svenskaspel? i am also playing at NL10-25 currently

glgl!

Thank you! Atm only playing on pokerstars but have tried my fare share of sites, including svenska spel

hit me up if u want to talk some strat!

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10-02-2017 , 03:42 PM

dittoro

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Originally Posted by PandaLife

Hey man, cool to see you have a thread now. gl!

Right click image in the imgur post, and click 'copy image adress'

Thank you and thank you Panda, I figured it out

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10-02-2017 , 03:59 PM

dittoro

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Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 415

Goals for this month is going to be:
[] Play 30K hands at 25nl+
[] Start playing 3 zoom tables with A game
[] Take a shot at 50nl (need to win a few more BI at 25nl first)
[]12 gym sessions
[]15 hours of studying poker

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10-02-2017 , 06:22 PM

7ckngTilt

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Originally Posted by dittoro

Thank you! Atm only playing on pokerstars but have tried my fare share of sites, including svenska spel

hit me up if u want to talk some strat!

PM sent broski

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10-02-2017 , 08:12 PM

#10

dittoro

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Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 415

Played a short midnight session!

Played decent not great but was a frustrating session

This is probably a punt, not sure, but the reg I was playing seemed like the guy that would turn Ahx into a bluff on river, and I'm only losing to very few combos.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37840475

BTN: $30.11 (120.4 bb)
SB: $59.83 (239.3 bb)
BB: $86.37 (345.5 bb)
UTG: $35.66 (142.6 bb)
MP: $88.51 (354 bb)
Hero (CO): $30.35 (121.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

UTG raises to $0.65, MP folds, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.35) T

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.25, UTG calls $2.25

Turn: ($8.85) 2

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.50, UTG calls $4.50

River: ($17.85) J

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $8, UTG raises to $26.91 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.60 and is all-in

Spoiler:

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White magic almost made me fold this

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37840477

BTN: $12.64 (50.6 bb)
SB: $26.30 (105.2 bb)
BB: $25.47 (101.9 bb)
UTG: $37.60 (150.4 bb)
MP: $35.47 (141.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $25.03 (100.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

UTG raises to $0.85, MP folds, Hero raises to $2.72, 2 folds, BB raises to $9.50, UTG folds, Hero raises to $25.03, BB calls $15.53

Flop: ($51.01) 9

(2 players)
Turn: ($51.01) 6

(2 players)
River: ($51.01) 3

(2 players)

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Not sure on this line with this hand but just wanted a fold so have to bet big right?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37840478

BTN: $60.13 (240.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $53.97 (215.9 bb)
BB: $36.92 (147.7 bb)
UTG: $44.02 (176.1 bb)
MP: $64.99 (260 bb)
CO: $7.67 (30.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9

UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, UTG calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.25) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2

Turn: ($10.25) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $11.75, UTG folds

Spoiler:

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Oh nothing better than coolering weak nit regs

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37840479

BTN: $30.44 (121.8 bb)
SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $27.19 (108.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $25.14 (100.6 bb)
CO: $26.56 (106.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 3 folds, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $0.74, Hero calls $0.74

Turn: ($2.82) 8

(2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($7.82) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $5.75, Hero raises to $21.28 and is all-in, BB calls $15.39 and is all-in

Spoiler:

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10-03-2017 , 04:08 PM

#11

dittoro

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Tried playing with 3 zoom tables and didnt go too well. Didnt play A-game and ran terrible at times so Im happy winning a Buy-in.

Ugh bad spot but worked out nice

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37840561

BTN: $59.45 (237.8 bb)
SB: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $18.11 (72.4 bb)
MP: $20.24 (81 bb)
CO: $66.01 (264 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

4 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.50) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.50) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $22.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $20.25 and is all-in

Spoiler:

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Trying to become a redline warrior

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37840562

BTN: $34.08 (136.3 bb)
SB: $28.08 (112.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $28.41 (113.6 bb)
UTG: $25.22 (100.9 bb)
MP: $90.25 (361 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

UTG raises to $0.75, MP folds, CO calls $0.75, BTN folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) 4

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG folds, CO calls $3

Turn: ($13.50) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $20.25, CO folds

Spoiler:

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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37840564

BTN: $25 (100 bb)
SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $35.87 (143.5 bb)
UTG: $77.79 (311.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $34.61 (138.4 bb)
CO: $20.48 (81.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 3 folds, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34) A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.84) 7

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

River: ($6.84) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.50, BB calls $7.50

Spoiler:

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10-03-2017 , 04:24 PM

#12

Kockar

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 374

Subbed. How do you find the 25z pool overall? I am also struggling when I move from 2 to 3 tables even if I am comfortable in most spots, but I always have the feeling that variance is increased with factor 1000. Never really experienced 8-9 BI downswings within one session when 2-tabling. GL at your journey!

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10-03-2017 , 04:49 PM

#13

dittoro

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Originally Posted by Kockar

Thanks mate

The pool is really soft I feel like, its a lot of fish there

when I stepped up there I thought a high winrate wouldnt be possible bc of rake, but a winrate of 6-8bb/100 seems possible from my time there (maybe more).
I have the same experience as you, but I think the variance I experience when I 3-tabling is just bc I play worse.

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10-03-2017 , 06:50 PM

#14

dittoro

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Just after I said the pool was soft I played some more and lost 3 BI in 200 hands

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10-04-2017 , 05:52 AM

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AltoZZ

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Subbed!
I've been playing 2tbls on NL25 zoom + 2 normal tables to keep the volume as high as possible.
Zoom seems pretty fishy and there's loads of fishes in the pool imo.

If I add third zoom table, I feel like I play much worse and can't find good spots to play ''optimal'', same as you. Thats why I try to calm myself and play only 2 zoom tables.

I like ur playstyle by betting huge on certain spots. Dunno if thats the right play but man, that sure as hell seems solid

GLGL!

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10-04-2017 , 07:59 AM

#16

dittoro

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Originally Posted by AltoZZ

GLGL!

Yeah I've been thinking of mixing in a few reg tables aswell, it's just hard bumhunting the lobby at the same time as you are playing zoom.
U can print money by overbetting, the guy with a set of 8s tanked for a while and then called, so it seems like a good play

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10-04-2017 , 02:36 PM

#17

dittoro

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Played around in Crev and did some 3bet pots sims. Im hoping someone can help me understand one spot I can't get my head around.

I 3bet from Bu vs UTG and he calls

The ranges i put in were
UTG calling defend range vs 3bet

and my 3bet range

After I bet 1/3 on flop with my entire range here this is what Crev tells UTG to do

I just cant understand how UTG should fold 80%, is my tree too simple or did I do something else wrong or is this just the correct way of playing these ranges?

I guess Im very overpair heavy in this spot that calling JJ isnt going to be profitable? And is this a sign that I should 3bet more than the range I put in?

Last edited by dittoro; 10-04-2017 at 02:58 PM.

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10-04-2017 , 06:47 PM

#18

dittoro

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Played a decent session today and manage to play quite well with 3 zoom tables.

vs fish, heart was beating very fast when I went all-in

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37841596

BTN: $30.78 (123.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $67.19 (268.8 bb)
BB: $20.25 (81 bb)
UTG: $17.42 (69.7 bb)
MP: $60.64 (242.6 bb)
CO: $50.37 (201.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.75, BTN folds

Flop: ($4.50) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.15, BB calls $2.15

Turn: ($8.80) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, BB calls $4.50

River: ($17.80) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $25.50, BB folds

Spoiler:

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He had some crazy stats so had to just call down, got totally owned...

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37841597

BTN: $48.10 (192.4 bb)
SB: $75.83 (303.3 bb)
BB: $21.60 (86.4 bb)
UTG: $25 (100 bb)
MP: $26.03 (104.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $37.09 (148.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.99, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.01

Flop: ($6.10) 8

(2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($10.10) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($18.10) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $12.60 and is all-in, Hero calls $12.60

Spoiler:

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And here's my whole 25nl graph since I reset my database

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10-04-2017 , 08:43 PM

#19

dittoro

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Made 4 BI in a small session just after, there was this massive whale with a massive stack in the zoom pool

soon ready for 50nl!!

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37841606

BTN: $31.39 (125.6 bb)
SB: $40.80 (163.2 bb)
BB: $26.70 (106.8 bb)
UTG: $20.64 (82.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $60.48 (241.9 bb)
CO: $196.58 (786.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.62, CO raises to $0.99, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $2.51

Flop: ($7.35) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25

Turn: ($15.85) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($43.85) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $25, Hero calls $25

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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10-04-2017 , 11:09 PM

#20

rcarvallob

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 19

hey man good luck with your challenge .
a couple of questions:
-dont you think that 30k hand is a small sample size to move up to 50nlz?.
-what is your true winrate? beacuse im playing also in this pool and the rake its taking me like 7bb/100 .. so in the graph of poker tracker said 5bb but this is after the rake so i guess u had a true win rate of 12bb/100 or so?..

keep the good work .

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10-05-2017 , 02:31 AM

#21

AltoZZ

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 796

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Originally Posted by dittoro

That's true.. But I think it's way profitable (atleast for me) to play 2 zoom and 2 reg tables.

btw, wanna share ur stars nickname?

I hear u with the overbet... Might wanna add that strat to my own game aswell.

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10-05-2017 , 05:51 AM

#22

dittoro

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Originally Posted by rcarvallob

thanks mate

1. Yes 30k hands is a small sample but it's very likely that I'm a winning player at 25nl. I'm just gonig to start with taking 50nl shots to see if I can compete. There's "bad regs" I've played at 25z that right now have moved up to 50nl and 4 table so I think I can be winning there.
2. Well from this sample my "true winrate" is in this case 12-13bb/100. I get the feeling you think that 12bb/100 isnt sustainable?

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10-05-2017 , 05:59 AM

#23

dittoro

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Originally Posted by AltoZZ

That's true.. But I think it's way profitable (atleast for me) to play 2 zoom and 2 reg tables.

btw, wanna share ur stars nickname?

I hear u with the overbet... Might wanna add that strat to my own game aswell.

I used hotkeys last night (in combination with starshelper) and 3 zoom tables wasnt that bad anymore, so 3 tables is going to be my standard from now on

reg tables could be good if you just want a good winrate but I want to get alot of hands in aswell.
Yes I'm sending you a Pm

You should, just dont overbet vs mee

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10-05-2017 , 01:25 PM

#24

rcarvallob

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 19

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Originally Posted by dittoro

thanks mate

1.- yes i kind of had the same feeling, but i have like 90k hands and im a small winner so im trying to elevate my winrate first .. what do you think that should be the rake bb/100 in the 50z pool for what u have been playing?

2.-i do think is sustainable, and if u think that u are much better than the pool im with you in move in up.

3 i was courious in your nickname also in the stars

good luck !

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10-05-2017 , 02:19 PM

#25

dittoro

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Originally Posted by rcarvallob

I haven't played any 50nl at all so I have no idea how the rake is there but hopefully not more than 5bb/100. I'm moving up when I have the bankroll and I'm sure I can beat the stake before that. Right now I don't quite have the bankroll for 50nl but the confidence.

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