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Old 04-25-2012, 02:44 PM   #26
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Re: Graduated - Now Let's Create My Life! (NL200)

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So u check river IP with nuts?

That's the point I didn't catch that I had a straight flush
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:29 PM   #27
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Re: Graduated - Now Let's Create My Life! (NL200)

Only 2BI left! Maybe for you guys its not much, but beating that swing means a lot to me. I know now that I have to play perfectly on NL400 to avoid NL200 and NL100!





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    SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
    BB: $403.43 (201.7 bb)
    MP: $303.05 (151.5 bb)
    Hero (CO): $439 (219.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 6
    MP folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB calls $4

    Flop: ($13) Q 2 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $13, Hero raises to $46, BB calls $33

    Turn: ($105) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $351.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $351.43

    River: ($807.86) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $807.86 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: Q 2 6 9 2
    BB showed K K and lost (-$403.43 net)
    Hero showed 6 6 and won $804.86 ($401.43 net)



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    Old 05-13-2012, 06:27 PM   #28
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    Re: Graduated - Now Let's Create My Life! (NL200)

    This month is getting much better. last 30k hands looks nice. Decided to play this month NL200/NL400 and next month only NL400.



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    Old 05-13-2012, 06:30 PM   #29
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      BB: $252.85 (126.4 bb)
      MP: $214.90 (107.5 bb)
      Hero (CO): $387 (193.5 bb)
      BTN: $228 (114 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
      MP folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN folds, SB raises to $16, BB folds, Hero calls $10

      Flop: ($34) 9 9 7 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($34) 3 (2 players)
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      River: ($100) 9 (2 players)
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      Old 05-13-2012, 08:54 PM   #30
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      wtf was the A10 guy doing :s Would actually be sick if he had AK here, cuz once you x/b the flop you never have a pair and his ******ed pot pot after checking 997 is just so lolbluff.
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      Old 05-13-2012, 11:46 PM   #31
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      Become a mid stakes player at the end of August - I mean playing only NL400+ with reasonable BRM.
      Keep pressure on self improvement not on grinding. Become a Learner not a Grinder.
      Playing at least 40k hands/month on 4-8 tables
      What is your bankroll strategy? How many buy-ins do you need to move up in stakes?

      Are you still playing only 4-8 tables?
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      Old 05-14-2012, 12:53 AM   #32
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      gl nice thread sir.
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      Old 05-14-2012, 06:40 AM   #33
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      wtf was the A10 guy doing :s Would actually be sick if he had AK here, cuz once you x/b the flop you never have a pair and his ******ed pot pot after checking 997 is just so lolbluff.
      Yeah Now he knows he can vbet AK there ;p He was ******ed really..

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      What is your bankroll strategy? How many buy-ins do you need to move up in stakes?
      About bankroll management. It depends a lot. Once I played 10BI roll and it works really well (10BI limit up and if I lose 2BI I go back to lower stake). But as a standard is 20-30BI. If I played some limit before 20BI is enough definitely.

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      Are you still playing only 4-8 tables?
      Only? I think that is optimal number of tables for me. There are few things I don't like in massive multitabling:
      - You're going into autopilot mode quicker
      - You can't evolve your game because you're playing standard lines
      - There is no fun from playing poker if you are not thinking about every hand.
      - It's not always this way: more tables = more money.In fact usually is this way: more tables -> winrate is getting lower -> no more fun from poker -> we are getting bored = $/h is the same or even lower.

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      Old 05-14-2012, 10:30 AM   #34
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      Subscribed. Hope your progress will give me the motivation to get back to grinding/learning hehe.
      GL at the tables!
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      Old 05-14-2012, 10:14 PM   #35
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      Subscribed. Hope your progress will give me the motivation to get back to grinding/learning hehe.
      GL at the tables!
      My first motivation and always was is my girlfriend. Maybe it sounds funny but her smiles are best awards for me.
      On the second place is of course $/hr : DD

      Today had very boring session like 1,5k hands break even and then at the end 3 spots and +1k$ ; ) Like this!

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      What I observed I'm not nervous during long session after hard gym training. It works very well on my mindset. Also I didn't eat much because my metabolism slowdown without movement now I feel like a Pacman eating everything what I can find.

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      Old 05-15-2012, 10:16 AM   #36
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      Re: Graduated - Now Let's Create My Life! (NL200)

      Question; how do you go about looking at results?
      During sessions, after sessions once a week or what?
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      Old 05-15-2012, 10:48 AM   #37
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      Question; how do you go about looking at results?
      During sessions, after sessions once a week or what?
      Hmm I think that it depends a lot on the personal character. Somebody can be tilted after 2-3 BI and someone can play A-game after loosing 5-7 BI.

      If you are asking about me hmmm... When I'm playing NL600 loosing 2-2,5BI is automatically sitout for me. I become nervous and can't focus enough. But on NL200 I can loose like 3-5BI and still playing A-game. So we can see that I like to have control on my session and my stoploss is around ~1k$.
      I look into cashier only when I'm running really bad. When I'm winning I can even forget to check the account.

      Dusty Schmidt in "Threat you poker like a bussines" sad that he looks just once per month. But I don't agree with a huge part of this book...


      This month looks really nice starting to play more NL400 than NL200 so I expect the red line will get higher and higher...




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        Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
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        Flop: ($30) 5 2 2 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $22, Hero raises to $76, BTN calls $54

        Turn: ($182) 5 (2 players)
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        River: ($382) Q (2 players)
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        Old 05-16-2012, 09:06 PM   #38
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        Re: Graduated - Now Let's Create My Life! (NL200)

        Today my internet provider decided to make me some surprise so I didn't play much.

        I had one spot which really bothers me so help me with this one...

        3bet pot stats : http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/197/asdmh.png
        He plays 34/25 with ft3bet 39 and (19) on the CO WTS 28 W$SD 48 after 18k hands (bought database)

        No dynamic between us. He knows maybe that Im 3betting a lot like 3 orbits and I 3bet (not him) like 7 times.

        Im not really sure about my river bet. Don't you think is to thin? He has to call for 70bb! Do you think that changing pot management in this spot can influence his river calling range?

        I prefer to bet 54$ on the flop and then like ~140$ T. His stack to pot ratio would be worse on the river and he would be more likely to bluff catch with 9x,TT,AT, QQ,KK ?



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          BB: $400 (100 bb)
          MP: $412.40 (103.1 bb)
          CO: $490.50 (122.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
          MP folds, CO raises to $12, BTN folds, Hero raises to $40, BB folds, CO calls $28

          Flop: ($84) 4 9 3 (2 players)
          Hero bets $42, CO calls $42

          Turn: ($168) A (2 players)
          Hero bets $124, CO calls $124

          River: ($416) J (2 players)
          Hero bets $294, CO calls $284.50 and is all-in

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          I can't say that NL400 become easier but I think people thinking process is leveled... "I know that he knows that I know"... wtf ;O I've been playing solid poker for like 2k hands and have seen sick actions .


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          Old 05-17-2012, 12:05 PM   #39
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          Just found this. What an awesome thread. I think it's great how much time and detail you put into your posts for SS and uNL players like myself to learn from.

          As for the hand, I'm a micro player and my thinking would be that any Ax he has has 2pr by now or AK and I'm not sure he bluff catch with worse pairs here.

          I like your thinking with SPR. I never think like that cause I don't have to right now but it's nice to get insight into higher level thinking.
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          Old 05-17-2012, 07:52 PM   #40
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          Don't play anywhere near this high but the AQ looks fine to me, surely you'd be triple barreling this runout a fair bit?
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          Old 05-18-2012, 07:48 AM   #41
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          Don't play anywhere near this high but the AQ looks fine to me, surely you'd be triple barreling this runout a fair bit?
          I would but I really don't care about balance with this player. And decided that this river bet is to thin. He calls far more ofter A2-A5 than random Ax so he's got two pairs, AK,AJ and set sometimes. X/F R is really bad play but x/c is fine because he can turn his 9x hands into a bluff.

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          Just found this. What an awesome thread. I think it's great how much time and detail you put into your posts for SS and uNL players like myself to learn from.
          Thank you. Your Welcome.

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          As for the hand, I'm a micro player and my thinking would be that any Ax he has has 2pr by now or AK and I'm not sure he bluff catch with worse pairs here.

          I like your thinking with SPR. I never think like that cause I don't have to right now but it's nice to get insight into higher level thinking.
          As I wrote above - you are right he is not calling with worse.

          I couldn't go just straight up!



          But that's fine. I played stable good poker. Maybe one spot I x/ship T to thin. Just no spots to get value. 2 flips + KK<AA so just setups.

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          Old 05-19-2012, 02:04 AM   #42
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          I really like this hand also. I call the flop because of the fish behind. Call the T is pretty simple as long as i can represent FH + 7x + 86 + AhKh on the R. If he checks he is never ever x/c with some TT-QQ.


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            BB: $199 (99.5 bb)
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            Preflop: Hero is UTG with A Q
            Hero raises to $6, MP folds, CO calls $6, 2 folds, BB calls $4

            Flop: ($19) 9 7 5 (3 players)
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            Turn: ($47) 7 (2 players)
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            River: ($109) K (2 players)
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            Generally calling twice with a draw then bluff shoving when you miss is bad but I'll try to come up with reasons that it is good here

            Because you opened from UTG your perceived range is tight to begin with. Always nice to bluff when you start out with tight range. Your range is made hand heavy when you call the flop. If you see this flop with standardish 16% opening range from UTG you will have made hand 65s or better around 38% of the time ( flopzilla ). And flush draw 8% of the time. So even thou it is a draw heavy board it is almost impossible to put you on a draw. From the get go it seems you have a made hand. But how strong is the question for vilain ? And if villain auto ch folds QQ-TT OTR then turning even some pairs to bluff could be good. What would be the best hand you would turn to bluff here ?
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            Old 05-23-2012, 03:10 PM   #43
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            Where u at?
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            Old 05-24-2012, 09:14 AM   #44
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            Hi guys sry for being out of order.

            About wakeboarding it was so ****in awesome that Im even thinking about buying a board It cost a lot because the boat took like 30l/hour of petrol, but its worth this money.

            I was like +5,5k this month and now Im +1,2k swings on NL400 and some part of this was my bad game.

            I will put some graph later.

            I have to learn more. 4 hours of gaming and 2 hours of learning from today.

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            Old 05-24-2012, 09:01 PM   #45
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            This fckn HM2 purge my database from NL100... Watch yourself because there is a bug. I had to clean NL100 hands bacause I dont play there and it slowdowns my databse. There is something like "do not delete hands played by..." and IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ALIASES !

            From today I decided to not look into a cashier. Just dont care about winnings and play.

            My last look and last picture of cash results graph :

            (this month suckz also ; / )



            I will look into the cashier on the 31st June

            Im back again on NL200.
            Try to build up my BR.
            I love wakeboarding ; )
            I really think that I have skills for NL400+ dunno whats wrong with this fckn limit...

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            Generally calling twice with a draw then bluff shoving when you miss is bad but I'll try to come up with reasons that it is good here

            Because you opened from UTG your perceived range is tight to begin with. Always nice to bluff when you start out with tight range. Your range is made hand heavy when you call the flop. If you see this flop with standardish 16% opening range from UTG you will have made hand 65s or better around 38% of the time ( flopzilla ). And flush draw 8% of the time. So even thou it is a draw heavy board it is almost impossible to put you on a draw. From the get go it seems you have a made hand. But how strong is the question for vilain ? And if villain auto ch folds QQ-TT OTR then turning even some pairs to bluff could be good. What would be the best hand you would turn to bluff here ?
            His weird check on the R says "hey, Ive got middle showdown value and I can't thin vbet or busted draw". Shovin here is fine I think. About turning my hand into a bluff hmmm.. I don't have many middle pocket pair on the R in my range after my line so I don't have to change them into a bluff ; )

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            Old 05-25-2012, 03:45 AM   #46
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            His weird check on the R says "hey, Ive got middle showdown value and I can't thin vbet or busted draw". Shovin here is fine I think. About turning my hand into a bluff hmmm.. I don't have many middle pocket pair on the R in my range after my line so I don't have to change them into a bluff ; )
            You have some. If you had 88 and checked back the river and lost to TT it would haunt me the rest of the session. If our read is that he has weak sd value or a busted draw and he is not cc'ing with his weak hands, why would we not shove river with everything we got there with ?

            88 ------> shove to fold out QQ-TT. If he ch calls TT we gain information that our read " that he always folds weak sd value in this spot" is wrong. Adjust accordingly. For the same reason if you end up OTR with any draw/A2hh/A5hh/65hh always shove. Maybe 98s/T9s/A9s is a shove aswell. Why would we ever want to ch back 9x when we put villain on QQ-TT that will fold to a shove ?

            AA-TT -----> shove. TT for aforementioned reason and AA-JJ for straight up value if we happen to be wrong and he is capable cc'ing TT. And shoving TT and never getting called is good for your red line
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            Old 05-29-2012, 10:44 AM   #47
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            You have some. If you had 88 and checked back the river and lost to TT it would haunt me the rest of the session. If our read is that he has weak sd value or a busted draw and he is not cc'ing with his weak hands, why would we not shove river with everything we got there with ?
            Imo it's not godd to shove there with every SD value because sometimes you will get called by better and you are building up the variance.

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            Old 06-01-2012, 08:58 AM   #48
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            Hi bichezzz!

            I decided to change my software, new deal, new power, new motivation. As long as every reg know how I play, fresh, new start will give me more confidence.
            Last month I think I ended like +1k. I played pretty well. Few variance spots on NL400 costed me a lot but you know ... **** happens

            I will play NL200 with NL400 shots. I have to be more confident about my game which is break even for a 80k hands. Everybody know that being confident about your decisions is one of the most important mindset concept. If you call T with intention to ship R you just have to do this. The limit you are currently playing can't influence on decision.

            Im not sure If I like this hand. I know that his valueraising range on the flop is sth like AQ,KQ,33,44 his doesnt have a lot of FD but few he has because of the fish on the BB. He is more likely to call with QQ preflop because of the fish I know that he is capable of turning hand into a bluff also. River everythin is busted and I dont expect him to bluff shove there, so donkshove for value is fine?


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              BTN: $200 (100 bb)
              SB: $193.30 (96.7 bb)
              BB: $246.35 (123.2 bb)
              Hero (UTG): $261.40 (130.7 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
              Hero raises to $6, MP calls $6, 4 folds

              Flop: ($15) Q 4 3 (2 players)
              Hero bets $10, MP raises to $28, Hero calls $18

              Turn: ($71) 6 (2 players)
              Hero checks, MP bets $45, Hero calls $45

              River: ($161) T (2 players)
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              Old 06-02-2012, 02:57 AM   #49
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              Im not sure If I like this hand. I know that his valueraising range on the flop is sth like AQ,KQ,33,44 his doesnt have a lot of FD but few he has because of the fish on the BB. He is more likely to call with QQ preflop because of the fish I know that he is capable of turning hand into a bluff also. River everythin is busted and I dont expect him to bluff shove there, so donkshove for value is fine?


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                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13010461

                MP: $235.25 (117.6 bb)
                CO: $164 (82 bb)
                BTN: $200 (100 bb)
                SB: $193.30 (96.7 bb)
                BB: $246.35 (123.2 bb)
                Hero (UTG): $261.40 (130.7 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
                Hero raises to $6, MP calls $6, 4 folds

                Flop: ($15) Q 4 3 (2 players)
                Hero bets $10, MP raises to $28, Hero calls $18

                Turn: ($71) 6 (2 players)
                Hero checks, MP bets $45, Hero calls $45

                River: ($161) T (2 players)
                Hero bets $182.40 and is all-in, MP calls $156.25 and is all-in

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                Your hand is face up as made hand by the river. Qx+. When you shove KK+. He should be able to play pretty perfectly vs your shove. Fold when he had Axhh and call when he has you beat. Except AQ/KQ falls in between. Probably boils down to how he plays them. Shoving river with AQ/KQ could be too thin. Your perceived range is mostly overpairs/AQ-KQ by the river because it is UTG vs HIJ. Shoving KQ vs that range is not that great. He will probably check back AQ/KQ. Which makes donk shoving KK alot better. If you are always going broke with KK vs QQ/44/33/AA but might not get value from AQ/KQ if you check then I approve donk shoving. Sets + AA 15 combos. AQ/KQ 18 combos. Shoving all day everyday. Twice on Sundays.

                Tougher question is how are we going to play the rest of our range here ? AQ-KQ/Axhh/65hh ? Flop and tu the same imo. CF KQ. CC AQ and hope for a chop or a random spazz. Axhh/65hh CF unimproved. Counting on very big mistake when we hit our hand for implied odds.
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                Old 06-02-2012, 03:49 AM   #50
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                GOd. no offense OP, but you are one big donk ^^
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