Goal : 25NL Fullring .
09-07-2014
, 06:41 PM
09-07-2014
, 08:02 PM
Day 1 : 5NL Zoom
a high % of the players at 5nl zoom are nits , soo im having hard times trying to exploit their weaknesses , i Steal alot and resteal / 3bet a fair amount in LP , however i couldnt extract the same value as from the fish i used to play against at 2nl zoom , i decided to focus on areas of play per week , soo ill analyze preflop play for a week and make it solid then move to flop turn river , but a general hand for the first day might be good to start things off for me :
INTO :
a high % of the players at 5nl zoom are nits , soo im having hard times trying to exploit their weaknesses , i Steal alot and resteal / 3bet a fair amount in LP , however i couldnt extract the same value as from the fish i used to play against at 2nl zoom , i decided to focus on areas of play per week , soo ill analyze preflop play for a week and make it solid then move to flop turn river , but a general hand for the first day might be good to start things off for me :
INTO :
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30320781
BTN: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
SB: $10.34 (206.8 bb)
BB: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
UTG+1: $18.76 (375.2 bb) 20/14/3/foldVs3bet 80 (239 hand)
UTG+2: $5 (100 bb)
MP1: $5.27 (105.4 bb)
MP2: $3 (60 bb)
Hero (MP3): $10.74 (214.8 bb)
CO: $5.06 (101.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q
Q
UTG+1 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 4 folds
i think i made a mistake here but im not sure , what i tried to learn these last days is to know the reason why any bet will make me profit , soo my thought process here was : if i bet will any worse hand call ? and if i got 4bet how should i play it ? .. for the second question , if i got 4bet here i think it's a fold for me for the simple reason that he'll rarely do it with AK or JJ , will he call w AK or JJ ? , given his big gap between VPIP and PFR i guess ill have enough calls in his range for me to make profit , but while i was playing i didnt have these stats to think that . but im guessing against a nit a call here is def standard right ?
let's run some EV calcs , of a regular openning range :
i give UTG an OR of : 77+,AJs+,AQo+ (71 combo)
lets compare two types of lines , the line where i 3bet and he shoves or fold based on ranges and the line where i just flat and we go HU to showdown w/o betting postflop :
he'll shove AA KK QQ () , he folds rest :
EV_3bet = (58/71)*(4.4BB) - (13/71)*(10BB) = 3.6 - 1.83 = + 1.77BB
a bad play because we turn our hand into a bluff , he'll fold anything worse than QQ and shove the top of his range , soo flat calling here is better to keep his whole range at play and let him make mistakes postflop and benefit , however in this situation a 3bet might be better .
Flop: ($0.37) J T 3 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.23, Hero calls $0.23
and he leads for a big % of the pot (62%) , same question here about raising , if i raise here , how am i making value ? what worse can call here ? and what do i do if he 4bet ?
lets suppose he'll never call with AJ , the only hands that he'll call with are flush draws and straight draws ,
soo maybe im undervaluating the value of reraising here , EV of raising (i'll fold if he re raise on top) :
range (cbet most of his range) : TT+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,AJo-ATo,KJo+ (79 combo)
it seems that i block off his FDs combos w my Q of clubs , and since J and T are already on board the
only hand that can make him a flush draw is AcKc soo the range of him calling w SD and FD is : KQs,AcKc,KQo (9 combos) which i flip against ! (58% equity)
EV = (9/74)*(6.96) - (22/74)*(13.8) + (43/74)*(12) = 0.84 - 4.1 + 6.97 = + 3.71BB ( breakeven )
i guess the best play here is to just call and evaluate on turn again .
Turn: ($0.83) Q
(2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.53, Hero calls $0.53
i hit a set but AK got there if he bet it on flop , but im ahead of JJ and TT which he'll play like this a large % of the times , soo he bet and i call because no worse will call in this situation and i might scare off AA KK and JJ TT .
River: ($1.89) 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.45, UTG+1 calls $0.45
river completes the flush and he checks , i guess most of the times he doesnt have the flush and in this stage i just wanted to extract some value from AA KK JJ TT , soo i bet a small amount for him to call with those types of hands .
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BTN: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
SB: $10.34 (206.8 bb)
BB: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
UTG+1: $18.76 (375.2 bb) 20/14/3/foldVs3bet 80 (239 hand)
UTG+2: $5 (100 bb)
MP1: $5.27 (105.4 bb)
MP2: $3 (60 bb)
Hero (MP3): $10.74 (214.8 bb)
CO: $5.06 (101.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q
QUTG+1 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 4 folds
i think i made a mistake here but im not sure , what i tried to learn these last days is to know the reason why any bet will make me profit , soo my thought process here was : if i bet will any worse hand call ? and if i got 4bet how should i play it ? .. for the second question , if i got 4bet here i think it's a fold for me for the simple reason that he'll rarely do it with AK or JJ , will he call w AK or JJ ? , given his big gap between VPIP and PFR i guess ill have enough calls in his range for me to make profit , but while i was playing i didnt have these stats to think that . but im guessing against a nit a call here is def standard right ?
let's run some EV calcs , of a regular openning range :
i give UTG an OR of : 77+,AJs+,AQo+ (71 combo)
lets compare two types of lines , the line where i 3bet and he shoves or fold based on ranges and the line where i just flat and we go HU to showdown w/o betting postflop :
he'll shove AA KK QQ () , he folds rest :
EV_3bet = (58/71)*(4.4BB) - (13/71)*(10BB) = 3.6 - 1.83 = + 1.77BB
a bad play because we turn our hand into a bluff , he'll fold anything worse than QQ and shove the top of his range , soo flat calling here is better to keep his whole range at play and let him make mistakes postflop and benefit , however in this situation a 3bet might be better .
Flop: ($0.37) J
T 3 (2 players)UTG+1 bets $0.23, Hero calls $0.23
and he leads for a big % of the pot (62%) , same question here about raising , if i raise here , how am i making value ? what worse can call here ? and what do i do if he 4bet ?
lets suppose he'll never call with AJ , the only hands that he'll call with are flush draws and straight draws ,
soo maybe im undervaluating the value of reraising here , EV of raising (i'll fold if he re raise on top) :
range (cbet most of his range) : TT+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,AJo-ATo,KJo+ (79 combo)
it seems that i block off his FDs combos w my Q of clubs , and since J and T are already on board the
only hand that can make him a flush draw is AcKc soo the range of him calling w SD and FD is : KQs,AcKc,KQo (9 combos) which i flip against ! (58% equity)
EV = (9/74)*(6.96) - (22/74)*(13.8) + (43/74)*(12) = 0.84 - 4.1 + 6.97 = + 3.71BB ( breakeven )
i guess the best play here is to just call and evaluate on turn again .
Turn: ($0.83) Q
(2 players)UTG+1 bets $0.53, Hero calls $0.53
i hit a set but AK got there if he bet it on flop , but im ahead of JJ and TT which he'll play like this a large % of the times , soo he bet and i call because no worse will call in this situation and i might scare off AA KK and JJ TT .
River: ($1.89) 5
(2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.45, UTG+1 calls $0.45
river completes the flush and he checks , i guess most of the times he doesnt have the flush and in this stage i just wanted to extract some value from AA KK JJ TT , soo i bet a small amount for him to call with those types of hands .
09-08-2014
, 06:00 AM
09-08-2014
, 08:56 PM
Hand 1 :
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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Hero (BTN): $6.54 (130.8 bb)
SB: $2.63 (52.6 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $6.36 (127.2 bb)
UTG+2: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
MP1: $7.56 (151.2 bb)
MP2: $3.61 (72.2 bb)
MP3: $4.33 (86.6 bb)
CO: $2.50 (50 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 A
5 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, SB folds, BB checks
this is a fold w no stats or info on villain .
Flop: ($0.17) T 4 7
(3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, CO calls $0.15
maybe i should've bet more here , im semi bluffing with a nut flush draw + pair against a weak min bet , i expect to get away with it large % of the times , he called though .
Turn: ($0.57) 3 (2 players)
CO bets $0.27, Hero calls $0.27
its a pretty breakeven play imo , i dont have much implied odds and got some reverse odds against sets when i hit :
got 27% equity against TT,77,44,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,65s,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo
lets calculate the EV of me hitting and winning it straight :
EV = (0.2764)*(16.8) - (0.7236)*(5.4) = 4.64 - 3.90 = +0.74 BB
now lets calculate the EV of getting another 60% pot on the river
with the best hand :
EV = (0.2764)*(30.12) - (0.7236)*(5.4) = 8.32 - 3.90 = +4.42 B
River: ($1.11) K (2 players)
CO bets $1.06, Hero folds
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Hero (BTN): $6.54 (130.8 bb)
SB: $2.63 (52.6 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $6.36 (127.2 bb)
UTG+2: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
MP1: $7.56 (151.2 bb)
MP2: $3.61 (72.2 bb)
MP3: $4.33 (86.6 bb)
CO: $2.50 (50 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7
A5 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, SB folds, BB checks
this is a fold w no stats or info on villain .
Flop: ($0.17) T
4 7 (3 players)BB checks, CO bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, CO calls $0.15
maybe i should've bet more here , im semi bluffing with a nut flush draw + pair against a weak min bet , i expect to get away with it large % of the times , he called though .
Turn: ($0.57) 3
(2 players)CO bets $0.27, Hero calls $0.27
its a pretty breakeven play imo , i dont have much implied odds and got some reverse odds against sets when i hit :
got 27% equity against TT,77,44,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,65s,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo
lets calculate the EV of me hitting and winning it straight :
EV = (0.2764)*(16.8) - (0.7236)*(5.4) = 4.64 - 3.90 = +0.74 BB
now lets calculate the EV of getting another 60% pot on the river
with the best hand :
EV = (0.2764)*(30.12) - (0.7236)*(5.4) = 8.32 - 3.90 = +4.42 B
River: ($1.11) K
(2 players)CO bets $1.06, Hero folds
Hand 2 :
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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BTN: $16.08 (321.6 bb)
SB: $4.89 (97.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $7.87 (157.4 bb)
UTG+1: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
UTG+2: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
MP1: $3.21 (64.2 bb)
MP2: $10.84 (216.8 bb)
MP3: $4.47 (89.4 bb)
CO: $8.87 (177.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds
my game is pretty ****ed in the blinds atm .
if we call , are we gonna play a passive line , if we hit we call and if we hit we didnt hit we just x/f ? , is this line will make us any profit in the long term ?
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BTN: $16.08 (321.6 bb)
SB: $4.89 (97.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $7.87 (157.4 bb)
UTG+1: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
UTG+2: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
MP1: $3.21 (64.2 bb)
MP2: $10.84 (216.8 bb)
MP3: $4.47 (89.4 bb)
CO: $8.87 (177.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K
A3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds
my game is pretty ****ed in the blinds atm .
if we call , are we gonna play a passive line , if we hit we call and if we hit we didnt hit we just x/f ? , is this line will make us any profit in the long term ?
Hand 3 :
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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Hero (BTN): $5.05 (101 bb)
SB: $2.41 (48.2 bb)
BB: $5.11 (102.2 bb)
UTG+1: $7.19 (143.8 bb)
UTG+2: $5.27 (105.4 bb)
MP1: $5.08 (101.6 bb)
MP2: $6.06 (121.2 bb) (18/12/2 450 hand)
MP3: $6.32 (126.4 bb)
CO: $4.86 (97.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with T T
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.30, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.20
a tight 3bet % , how much i need to extract from him if i hit a set to make this call profitable ?
EV = (11.7%)*X - (88.3%)*(6BB) > 0
=> X > 45.282 BB
with another player calling im getting more implied odds , i think this call will
be profitable long term , i just was intimidated by calling a "whole" 3bet !
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Hero (BTN): $5.05 (101 bb)
SB: $2.41 (48.2 bb)
BB: $5.11 (102.2 bb)
UTG+1: $7.19 (143.8 bb)
UTG+2: $5.27 (105.4 bb)
MP1: $5.08 (101.6 bb)
MP2: $6.06 (121.2 bb) (18/12/2 450 hand)
MP3: $6.32 (126.4 bb)
CO: $4.86 (97.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with T
T2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.30, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.20
a tight 3bet % , how much i need to extract from him if i hit a set to make this call profitable ?
EV = (11.7%)*X - (88.3%)*(6BB) > 0
=> X > 45.282 BB
with another player calling im getting more implied odds , i think this call will
be profitable long term , i just was intimidated by calling a "whole" 3bet !
09-08-2014
, 09:09 PM
fun hand ..
nitty fold against an unknown ?
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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Hero (BTN): $7.80 (156 bb)
SB: $5.60 (112 bb)
BB: $5.49 (109.8 bb)
UTG+1: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
UTG+2: $7.58 (151.6 bb)
MP1: $16.36 (327.2 bb)
MP2: $7.75 (155 bb)
MP3: $5.30 (106 bb)
CO: $4.59 (91.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
UTG+1 raises to $0.15, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.67) K 7 K (4 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.35
Turn: ($1.37) A (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.70, Hero folds
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Hero (BTN): $7.80 (156 bb)
SB: $5.60 (112 bb)
BB: $5.49 (109.8 bb)
UTG+1: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
UTG+2: $7.58 (151.6 bb)
MP1: $16.36 (327.2 bb)
MP2: $7.75 (155 bb)
MP3: $5.30 (106 bb)
CO: $4.59 (91.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7
7UTG+1 raises to $0.15, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.67) K
7 K (4 players)UTG+1 bets $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.35
Turn: ($1.37) A
(2 players)UTG+1 bets $0.70, Hero folds
nitty fold against an unknown ?
09-10-2014
, 09:25 PM
poorly played !
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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BTN: $5.79 (115.8 bb)
SB: $4.90 (98 bb)
BB: $8.25 (165 bb)
UTG+1: $5.20 (104 bb) 9/8 from EP over 300 hands
UTG+2: $0.66 (13.2 bb)
MP1: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
MP2: $8.77 (175.4 bb)
Hero (MP3): $5.51 (110.2 bb)
CO: $5.54 (110.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K A
UTG+1 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, BB folds
Flop: ($0.50) 5 K 6 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB folds
Turn: ($1.10) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60
we have to call 24BB into 46BB or 3:1 odds , soo we need more than 25% equity for this call to be profitable , we have 24.13% equity against this range : KK+,66,AKs,AKo . (if we dont include 66 , the EV is still near zero )
so it should be an eazy fold !
River: ($2.30) 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20
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BTN: $5.79 (115.8 bb)
SB: $4.90 (98 bb)
BB: $8.25 (165 bb)
UTG+1: $5.20 (104 bb) 9/8 from EP over 300 hands
UTG+2: $0.66 (13.2 bb)
MP1: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
MP2: $8.77 (175.4 bb)
Hero (MP3): $5.51 (110.2 bb)
CO: $5.54 (110.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K
AUTG+1 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, BB folds
Flop: ($0.50) 5
K 6 (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB folds
Turn: ($1.10) 4
(2 players)UTG+1 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60
we have to call 24BB into 46BB or 3:1 odds , soo we need more than 25% equity for this call to be profitable , we have 24.13% equity against this range : KK+,66,AKs,AKo . (if we dont include 66 , the EV is still near zero )
so it should be an eazy fold !
River: ($2.30) 9
(2 players)UTG+1 bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20
09-10-2014
, 09:40 PM
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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BTN: $5 (100 bb)
SB: $10.51 (210.2 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $14.57 (291.4 bb) 6/4/0 70 hands
UTG+2: $6.26 (125.2 bb)
Hero (MP1): $5.13 (102.6 bb)
MP2: $4.98 (99.6 bb)
MP3: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.03 (100.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q Q
UTG+1 raises to $0.15, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, 5 folds
Standard ? , what worse can call here , im not seeing him calling w AKas a standard line for nits .. soo whats the value of raising , in the other side of it im losing equity when other players IP will overcall .
Flop: ($0.52) 6 3 2 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30
Turn: ($1.42) A (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, 2 folds
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BTN: $5 (100 bb)
SB: $10.51 (210.2 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $14.57 (291.4 bb) 6/4/0 70 hands
UTG+2: $6.26 (125.2 bb)
Hero (MP1): $5.13 (102.6 bb)
MP2: $4.98 (99.6 bb)
MP3: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.03 (100.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q
QUTG+1 raises to $0.15, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, 5 folds
Standard ? , what worse can call here , im not seeing him calling w AKas a standard line for nits .. soo whats the value of raising , in the other side of it im losing equity when other players IP will overcall .
Flop: ($0.52) 6
3 2 (3 players)UTG+1 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30
Turn: ($1.42) A
(3 players)UTG+1 bets $1, 2 folds