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Built a nice Bankroll $5k+
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Made enough $ to repay my dad
2 20.00%
BUSTED!
5 50.00%

02-13-2018 , 04:40 PM
I lost count of how many grands I stole my father. Around the 20 mark.

In the last four months only I've managed to steal €10k from his credit card, but first things first, everything started because of a forgotten comma:
It was 2014 and a 17 years old me had recently discovered PokerStars and occasionally deposited max 50 bucks to grind'em up to a few hundreds always ending up busting it all either at 1/2NL or High stakes MTTs.
And then the day came, I was moving exactly €40 from my father's bank account to my prepaid card but I made a honest mistake (I swear) and sent myself €4000 just because I forgot to place the comma between the €40,00 and the decimals. F*** me, when I found out I didn't know how to tell my father without him thinking I was plotting smth. So I cowardly didn't. Classic me. Waited until he found out for himself and told me "Don't even think about playing poker with that money". So that same night I did. Started playing cash game online at the bar with friends. It only took me two weeks to burn through the 4k. A month later I crashed my mum's new car for another €6k in damages.

Back to us.
Yesterday was a friend of mine's 23rd birthday so we celebrated and at 2am I was laying in bed too high to close my eyes, next to my soon to be baby mama, and I couldn't help but think how many experiences could have bought us those 10 thousand euros I wasted on poker, roulette and slots. I felt angry at myself for having been so blinded by my endless crave for more $ that I forgot to live.

Now it's a new day and I will not make the same mistakes.
When I'm on top of my game I proved myself to be more than able to play texas holdem.



My first placement on a PokerStars.it major. Chopped it HU for little less than €5k, my biggest poker score so far. Hyped on the win I was making one final table per session. Then it all went south (as you can see from the complete graph)

I also started playing on WPN where I initially found myself very happy with their MTTs schedule and the field level.

This is my graph with my first account on WPN. Huge swings but also my best multitabling results, made two final tables coming 4th and 6th and 11th at the $109 in the same night. Very happy. On a mere 161 games I cashed a total of over $10K.





As I write I took the last $1.5k from my dad's card and that is what my bankroll amounts to. I now play on AmericasCardroom as QuantumM1nd and I'm never going bust again! It's only +HEV from now on!

Last edited by QuantumM1nd; 02-13-2018 at 04:53 PM.
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02-13-2018 , 05:13 PM
In glgl!
Btw how can you play on acr in italy?
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02-13-2018 , 05:37 PM
You can register on ACR through an agent. Write to me on pm
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02-13-2018 , 05:57 PM
You stole money from your father in amount of 4k and now took another 1.5k? Or did you pay him back and arr left with 1.5k? Why didnt you cash out the "accidental" 4k right away and give it back? You sound like a scumbag tbh.
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02-13-2018 , 06:56 PM
Wait, you took the last $1,500 from your dad's credit card??

You sound like a degen in every sense of the word. I think you have some issues to work out before you try and do this seriously...like taking care of that baby that's on the way.
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02-13-2018 , 09:07 PM
@sweetswing1 I took more than €15,000 total from him w/out his permission. He found out and got really pissed, every time. I never had the chance to pay him back yet, at least not for the amount I would like to give him. I might set up a monthly payment plan, 1k a month and I'm square in less than 2 years. But that's not exactly what I'm after. I want to make a fortune.

@DonkFace77 I fully recognise myself as a degenerate gambler. I spent two years in London as an abroad Business Management student. I didn't need to work, as many other undrgards I've met. My father would pay for my accomosation, my uni tutition and send me ca. £1k a month. He is so kind to even pay me on top for the representation work I do for him. So I basically had nothing to do but study, turn in god work, get good grades and enjoy the privileged life a healty 19 years old can live in LND. Then I started playing roulette at casions and I had the craziest time of my life. False highs and true lows. Living day by day. Managing my finances like I had all the money in the world. Had to feed myself with friends' leftovers for a while. Lost a lot of weight. Lost a lot of confidence. Lost a lot of time in my best years. Still, I wouldn't change a day of my past life.
Now, I feel you when you say I need to fix things seriously. What do you mean by taking care of a baby?

Financially I envision myself crashing Online MTTs first and Live events after.
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02-13-2018 , 09:09 PM
"I was laying in bed too high to close my eyes, next to my soon to be baby mama"

Are you not having a baby?
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02-13-2018 , 09:11 PM
Yes we are. I was actually asking what you think raising a baby requires. lol
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02-13-2018 , 09:20 PM
Oh Gotcha.

Raising a baby requires a father who's not going to blow all her diaper money on tilt. How can you expect people to believe a kid who stole $15k from his dad and gambled it all away isn't going to do the same with any other money he gets his hands on?

It's your life and we've all been through some struggles but thinking you're going to just magically turn it around without addressing some core issues just isn't realistic.

What are you going to do for a living while youre on this poker journey?
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02-13-2018 , 09:31 PM
We are talking finances as expected, but that isn't all there is to it. Btw how is it going with your soon to be 1 year old?
She will hopefully receive a maternity of little more than 600 a month.
I work for my father but I don't get compensated for that, not that he wouldn't pay me if needed but I am really trying to make it playing poker.

I am looking at a $100 to $200 profit per session on average. That would be more than enough to start with.
I guess stay tuned to see how realistic that is with a $1,500 bankroll.

This is what my ACR account looks like at the time of writing.


Last edited by QuantumM1nd; 02-13-2018 at 10:01 PM.
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02-13-2018 , 10:04 PM
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02-13-2018 , 10:12 PM
You are delusional. You want an easy way. Get a job and pay your father back and look after your soon to be kid. Poker looks like the answer to you but youll just end up stealing from him again. The balls on you. Youre a spoiled child that is going to get a brutal reality check at some point soon. Sooner the better.
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02-13-2018 , 10:37 PM
I recognise Poker as not being an easy way.
It is tough mentally and emotionally.
It makes me want to quit every time the best play is not rewarded. It crushes my soul at times but it elevates me when it works out.
You are 100% right but I am confident I will evolve tomorrow, and the next day and so on.
I won't be reckless. I will proceed with caution.
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02-13-2018 , 11:13 PM
you've lost $2500 in the last two weeks. How are you going to all of the sudden start making 100-200 per session??

Dont get me wrong, I hope you make a million dollars, but you need more of a plan than "I just will"
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02-14-2018 , 04:57 AM
You're delusional OP. I hope you decide to take a big step back from the game, stare deep into your soul and figure out the right path for you. The solution isn't playing more poker with more or less the exact same plan that got you here. I'm speaking from experience.
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02-14-2018 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkFace77
you've lost $2500 in the last two weeks. How are you going to all of the sudden start making 100-200 per session??

Dont get me wrong, I hope you make a million dollars, but you need more of a plan than "I just will"
I think losing was mostly due to reckless spending sessions and playing under the influence. This thread will def help me check myself and play my A game more frequently.
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02-14-2018 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nefirmative
You're delusional OP. I hope you decide to take a big step back from the game, stare deep into your soul and figure out the right path for you. The solution isn't playing more poker with more or less the exact same plan that got you here. I'm speaking from experience.
I am radically changing my approach. I do investigate my life path everyday and that's a different story.
Poker is my financial path at the moment.
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02-14-2018 , 12:59 PM
Seems like a rollercoaster downwards! Het help man!

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G925F met Tapatalk
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02-14-2018 , 01:19 PM
I usually don't post on other PG&Cs unless I see some very outstanding/interesting threads, but im posting now because this one is very outstanding for all the wrong reasons.


Being completely unbiased and viewing the info you've provided, it seems to me that you've built up this false narrative that you are good enough to play mtts for a living based on one 5k bink. On top of that you've admitted to theft for a ridiculous amount of money to feed this narrative.

On top of that you apparently have a child on the way, which costs an extreme amount of money per year, and the onus is 100% on you and one other person to meet those requirements.



I think your major issue starts right here:

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Originally Posted by QuantumM1nd
When I'm on top of my game I proved myself to be more than able to play texas holdem.

What in your mind honestly makes you believe this, besides a couple small wins over a growing losing sample? I believe that common variance is tricking you into thinking that you are something that you arent, and when your first standard 50bi mtt downswing hits you'll be left confused and stealing more money to feed your problem.

If you honestly think you have what it takes to be a full time mtt player online then I hope you can check some of these things off the req. list:

- have you studied the game for 10k hours? 5k? 1k? 100 hours even?
- Do you have years of experience as a winning player with solid results to
back it?
- have you been coached by a professional mtt player with the results and
coaching prowess to back it?
- Do you have a carefully laid out financial and life plan to fit the needs and
schedule of an online mtt grinder? One who is able to play 4+ days a week
of 10+ hour sessions?


If you can't say yes to one of these things, especially the bolded one, then you need to absolutely make sure that the others are a strong yes to even have a chance at making it as a full time mtt grinder. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for almost guaranteed failure. And that doesn't sound like something you can afford right now with a child on the way and a large debt in your back pocket.


I hope you read through this and actually consider the idea of finding a job to support and pay back those around you instead of feeding what seems to be a pipe dream of yours. The word responsibility comes to my mind first and foremost.

Unless of course you can answer yes to those questions above, in which case best of luck to you.

Or better yet this is just a troll post and I wasted 10 minutes of my time writing this. But if not then I truly hope you read this and take it seriously because I'm not trying to put you down, I'm sincerely trying to help you and those around you by helping you make better decisions. You're still very young but you only get one chance at your early twenties and I think you need to truly consider how to approach this point of your life given your current circumstances.
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02-14-2018 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueCollarPoker
I'm sincerely trying to help you and those around you by helping you make better decisions.
I think most of us are. I have a feeling, however, that what we are saying falls on deaf ears. He's attributing the luck swings of variance to his skill and the bad luck swings to variance. I hope for his future kids sake that he sorts this out
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02-15-2018 , 06:01 AM
@BlueCollar Thank you for taking the time to write such a honest and detailed post I do appreciate the interest and the help you are offering.

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Originally Posted by BlueCollarPoker
What in your mind honestly makes you believe this, besides a couple small wins over a growing losing sample?
I am not only looking at one big score to judge my poker self. I did show some good results in some of the hardest PS.it and WPN games (see sharkscope 1 and 2) and a >50% ITM on local live MTT. But what gives me confidence is the ability to join a game's rythm and be able to read my adversaries with a good accuracy, and that happens with higher frequency when I show results, instead my game gets sloppy when I don't win, sort of a vicious circle.

To answer your other questions, I have studied the game for some 100h or so and keep doing so, I have played more than 30k hands online in MTTs only, I have never been coached but it's going to be the first thing as soon as I increase my roll enough to invest a couple hundreds in professional coaching, I am able to play complete sessions 3/4 days a week and I can live on a very low budget also considered the inexpensive place where I live with my gf.

@DonkFace77 Thank you for that. I sincerely appreciate your comments and suggestions and carefully try to integrate them in my decision meking processes. I am attributing my upswings to my skill and in particular to the confidence boost that those swings provide me, but I know the massive downsings ae caused by my sloppy play, inexistent bankroll management, rush and playing under the influence.
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02-15-2018 , 07:05 AM
PokerStars: €520 --> €400 -€120
WPN: $620 --> $578 -$42

Played from 5pm to 11pm multitabling 2-4 MTTs and Sats on PS.it and WPN.
Made some itms but ended up making a loss on both rooms. I sticked to the low buyin tournaments which has never happened before, only got out of line on WPN playing a $33 6max which I busted quickly because of bad play and lack of focus. Won a €10 sat to €100 Night on Stars which I busted after 1h of play with 66 semibluffed All in turn facing a 50% bet with one overcard on the board and a flush draw for me, got called by a set of dueces. Got my fair share of bad beats too, below some of the funniest.
Suggestions on how to improve HM HUD and post-session review are welcome.





First hand of the tournament (HUD has not loaded yet). 4way all in preflop.



My second hand at the table. SB bets All in on the flop.


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02-16-2018 , 12:22 PM
PokerStars: €400 --> €241 -€159
WPN: $578 --> $233 -$345

Negative session. Played abi too high for my roll and only one small cash at the $44 8max 9th/250. Bad luck and should have stayed away from high buy-ins.





Bad start of session. Much frustration right at the beginning.



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02-16-2018 , 01:35 PM
Your graphs show that you are at best a break even player (Or Worse) that got lucky in 1 tournament.
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02-16-2018 , 01:37 PM
It’s not just the 1 5k shot. Check the graphs properly.
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