Double post #2

Another day of running against aces etc. Despite only losing at 5NL I'm going to move up to 10NL, feeling confident about my game and I know how bad I've run so far at 5NL, but ofcourse I have lots of work to do to improve my game. Going to study some ranges/watch a video first and later I'll start some hands at 10NL. If there's a limit I want to move out of without showing positive results it's 5NL rather than higher ofcourse.

Last day at 5NL:



5NL total:




Ty mate you too!

First day at 10NL and the running against aces continued, only positive thing that happened was that I got it allin with aces preflop for like the first time since I started playing cash games, and yes that's as sad as it sounds. Field was pretty soft still, only a little bit more 3betting from what I've seen so far.




GTOWizard has this as a 4bet/call, not sure if it's that great at the micro's though since a lot of people play more passive with AK/QQ, 4 bet sizing needs to be a little smaller though

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 105.7 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 111.1 BB
Hero (UTG): 109.1 BB
MP: 137.7 BB
CO: 48.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 11 BB, fold, Hero raises to 28 BB, SB raises to 100 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 72 BB


Ez fold?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 122.3 BB
BB: 80.9 BB
UTG: 66.5 BB
MP: 104.3 BB
CO: 426.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) A Q 6
BB checks, Hero bets 6.5 BB, BB calls 6.5 BB

Turn: (29.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 14.7 BB, BB raises to 29.4 BB, Hero?


Standard fold against this sizing?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 103.9 BB
BB: 210.6 BB
UTG: 52.4 BB
MP: 68.4 BB
CO: 92.3 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN raises to 21 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Flop: (43 BB, 2 players) 2 2 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 21 BB, Hero?


This hand was pretty weird, felt otr that I could get some value of some worse hands

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 80.7 BB
SB: 104.3 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 33.2 BB
MP: 418.2 BB
CO: 142.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8 4 9
SB bets 2.9 BB, Hero calls 2.9 BB

Turn: (11.8 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 5.9 BB, SB calls 5.9 BB

River: (23.6 BB, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets 7.4 BB, SB raises to 26.1 BB, Hero?


Another pretty weird river spot, felt like a slowplayed flush/full house and couldn't really find any hands he would do this with as a bluff

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 140.5 BB
Hero (BB): 103.7 BB
UTG: 138.5 BB
MP: 240.8 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T 2 Q
Hero checks, UTG bets 2.7 BB, Hero calls 2.7 BB

Turn: (10.9 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: (10.9 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 7.9 BB, UTG raises to 29 BB, Hero?

H1. Looking grim probably not folding the suited one. Even given the position. And the hand to strong to only call the 3bet. So dont sweat that one.

H2 never seen a double x/r with anything but a set. But if you bet turn. Feels your commit and there 2 fd on board. I would probably pay the man.

H3. fold. Bad sizing choice from V.

H3. That did nit turn out so good. Sigh fold. Bluff catcher on x/r river mb you sized openned the doir. Probably not.

H4. Sometimes lead turn. As played. Would probably fold. Same reasoning as the o e before. Im yet to see someone bluffing there. Can not value raise thin there. So our hand is kinda bluff catchy. If you had the Kd i would puke after getting raise.

Ty for your feedback!

H2 isn't a double x/r though and why are we committed as we haven't even put in 30bb in total?

i got mad respect for you previously playing what you played and having the discipline to start at nl2

I mean he might have some Ax lower but with the flush draw I think. yeah I meant. X/C X/R

Hehe thanks but I think it's for the better, so far I'm down money in cash games. When I played SNGs I did some 25nl/50nl zoom for fun but never played more than 2k hands I believe. The funny thing is I improved my game at 2NL so when I played mtts on sunday I really changed my playstyle quite a bit

Ah yeah cool

Makes sense, I'd imagine cash is more 'fun' than SNGs as well since the format actually allows you to play hands. :P

True but so far I'm running really bad

I find mtts the most enjoyable but currently working fulltime so I usually only play some on sundays

But at the same time I thought the raise turn was a shove (H2) from shortstack. now that I see he has chips behind. I think I lean more towards fold.

H1 (AKs): Pretty std imo, AKs, is the lowest hand i call here, and against some of the opponents im folding, like you said most people on micro of the regs are suuuuper nitty preflop about getting it in.

So as you said, for most of the AKo, AKs, QQ is not a jam here, which leave us with KK or AA, where we only have 23% equity, he need to be jamming the default range of QQ+ AKs+ in the scenario we have 37% equity and we need like 35% to call. But even that, if we feel we are way better, those crazy close spots on micro's might not even be worth it, when we consider the huge rake on NL10 (if we take that into account), we are calling 7.2$ to win 20$ -4.5%, or 7.2/(20*0.955) = 37.7% pot odds, so if he jam QQ+ AKs+ taking the rake into account, we are making a breakeven call, vs someone we assume to be better than.

H2 (AJ): I've looked over alot of your hands, just didn't comment, you often post (idk if its random?) hands where you lead the second you get checked to. Is this a trend (as in a leak) or just random misfortune that many of the hands you post does that?

Whats your bet when checked to as PF caller?

Im checking this flop back, I really see no point in betting. What hand's do he 3b with pf? A2s+ 99+ AJo+

We are capped here, so basicly the only nutted hand we can have is 66 or AQ, while he can have AA, QQ, AQ, and since we don't block the hearts, he can be x/r ALOT with Ah, KTh JTh etc, and we are now in the worlds most shitty position on the flop, where we felt we had some equity, but he can now force us out easily, since we are legit holding the absolut bottom of our range here... What do you protect against? What do you want value from?

The bet feels like there is no thought process behind it, same goes for the turn bet, it seems so automated.

You put your self in a shitty spot, but you can't fold to the raise, obviously he seem nutted, but since we still have 2 FD's and are readless vs a fish, im calling here, praying to the gods he have a combo draw he spazed out with who will check the river. We need to call 15bb into like 60 so bout 25% and he wont randomly do this with AQ, AK, QQ, AA, most of the time we feel them on the flop, so he kinda capped his own range by check calling flop. Which mean that unless it's a slowplay on a wet flop, where we told him ''we got a part of it'' - He could very well hold a combo draw, or some random A2h he didnt x/r or A2d. So call and evaluate river

H3 (AQo): The PF sizing obviously suck, since we kinda are forced to call, but im not liking it, i might even consider folding, is it readless? Do you think btn have 4b bluffs in his range? (A2-A5s, Kx low suited?) that he turns into a bluff 4b here? If so we are happily calling.

If not, and his 4b range is AQs+ JJ+ we are really in a weird spot on 99% of the flops.

In general just a snap fold on the flop, could he be bluffing us? Sure, but if we call what do we want on the turn? Q? Does a Q chance alot vs his PF 4b range? (if it's wide yes, if not noooo). Does a A help us? Yea most likely, but we can still find our self in **** vs AK.

So calling this flop would be a blunder with AQo, im more prone to find a call here if we had a BD FD, since he can slow down with his 4b bluff hands on the turn, and we can pick up some more pure equity, right now we don't even know if Q or A is pure equity.

H4 (A6s): Is this ever a 3b for you? Or pure call? (Im slightly agro, so this is a 3b like 90% of the time for me, so i rarely find my self in this spot).

Anyhow calling pf is fine, calling flop is perfectly fine.

But here we kinda have it again, when checked to we bet, but why do we bet? Remember our range is capped as **** calling in BB, so we hold only the worst of the worst of aces, for many we don't even hold any suited aces (since many 3b them), but more of the off suited aces).

And why that sizing?

Again river is kinda the same pot to stir in, the big question is why.

This hand, I think a little ''homework'' excercise would help you tons. Open Equilab or any program you can put in a range.

Make his SB PF Opening range:
Make your BB PF Calling range:

Compare the two, and try on every street to weed out the hands you can, and see what ranges we end up with on the different streets.

If you want to I will be more than happy to do it with you on discord, but it seem to be a general thing watching over your hands, ranges is kinda ''missed'' for you when thinking about what to do.

H5 (KTo):
PF Fine.
Flop Fine.
Turn Fine.
River is kinda iffy, only we can have the flush (going for a turn x/r).

He really capped his range, why would he check the turn with a flush, just to raise a river lead? He have the initiative, and we are still not folding our Qx Tx to a turn bet, unless its HUGE, so he can still find value with a flush.

Meaning when he checks he hold basicly no flushes.

His range is now more QQ, QT, 22, but than again, why would he check the turn? He can extract value from Tx Qx and single diamonds, where as he can only hope to see a diamond on the river, for you to see value in your Ad Kd, where he now can extract more value.

His line will contain more bluffs than strong holdings, the strong hands you talk about, would have had to think they could only go for 1 street of value, but being IP for him just make that statement weird.

As played im calling and happily paying him when he have a nutted hand, make a little note on it, and know that a NL10 reg by no means have the skills to realise we have this note, and for us not to exploit it going forward.

Sorry for the long txt, im bad at making things short, best of luck with your grind!.

i personally get incredibly bored in online cash games because there's no end game, ie no changing dynamics just pure vanilla rinse and repeat thousands of times

tourney format way more fun imo because dynamics and table meta constantly changing

H2. Response to Nana.I think flop is not close towards a X. Betting always Ak (if mix in there.) Always AQ. I could debate having some check with the AJ. Buuuut I would rarely x tbh

We have ton of worst Ax. To check flop.
Turn i think its x because of spr. And the draws. Type of spot where now the draws on average becomes better bet than the made hand no redraw. But I thibk the Ev diff isnt as brutal.

H3 AQ. To the backdoor call. Even AQs with the backdoor woukd be moslty fold for me against that size. For 1/3 as most people use. I would probably call.

For the A6 i think once again that nana. Is a bit ool with the explaining. If we call some ah backdoor. We dont x/back that turn very much. Not a lot of player will go. X/call x/raise with the top tier of the ax. Part. It make sens but not much people do it. But river is way closer i dont personnaly use those type of sizing river. Bc our hand is face up. But still dont think its a massive blunder.

K10. Nana i would never use the word never in poker. I think some players have flush there. I know because i x back on pairing card turn with some flush. V also might have x with some full house i dobt thibk its impossble. I like the small lead because you can rebalamce it with some ax of the nuts suits as bluff and find way to balance it. And a lot of opponent might not raise their flush turns to bet. Because of texture of the board. Or when V as the nut draw he calls pretty dead when we have the value part : the 10. But i think if you dont have lead on pairing turn card. X is okay.
River nono snap fold at ps 10nl for me.

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Nana, don't say sorry for the long post, your post has been the most detailed so far itt and you definately spotted a leak! The bet when checked to I've been doing since watching a 500NL zoom reg a few years ago, I ofcourse don't do this 100% but usually when I think I'm ahead of an opponents checking range. I can't find the stat in PT4, maybe you can tell me how I can see that stat.

Because I've always been a turbo SNG/MTT guy I never really did much study of ranges and how they play out on certain board textures etc. as most of the important stuff there was ICM/pushfold ranges and playing with shallow stacks.

You bet the first thing I'm going to do is study some of these spots in Equilab.

I'm happy to talk to you on Discord (never used it but whatever, oldschool Skype guy here), by the way you're talking about equities, ranges etc. I know you have a very good understanding of the game and can definately help a cash game newbie like me in a couple hand reviews or whatever strategy talk we can do.

Really sucks you're in the situation you're currently in but I'm sure you will get out of this and are a big crusher in a couple years!

Yesterday:



Today:



Felt really good about today, around breakeven in ev while I ran into AA 3 times preflop. Played pretty well in 3b/4b pots and managed to take down a 4b pot which probably would've ended up in a split pot if I didn't shove the river. Did ran into a few tough spots though and not sure if I played them all well.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 126.5 BB
SB: 99.1 BB
BB: 112.2 BB
UTG: 179.2 BB
Hero (MP): 108.6 BB
CO: 93.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 7 7 3
BB checks, Hero bets 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 12.5 BB, Hero calls 10 BB, fold

Turn: (35.5 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

River: (79.5 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 75.2 BB and is all-in, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 50 BB
SB: 131.8 BB
BB: 118.6 BB
UTG: 151.9 BB
Hero (MP): 138.6 BB
CO: 122.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

UTG raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 7.2 BB, fold, BTN raises to 25.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 120.7 BB
SB: 67.8 BB
Hero (BB): 119.1 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 78 BB
CO: 96.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T Q 5
Hero checks, UTG bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, UTG bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (33.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, UTG bets 83.5 BB and is all-in, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 107.3 BB
SB: 117.2 BB
Hero (BB): 124.7 BB
UTG: 161 BB
MP: 100.5 BB
CO: 115.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.1 BB, Hero calls 1.1 BB

Flop: (4.2 BB, 2 players) 6 T 5
SB bets 1.6 BB, Hero calls 1.6 BB

Turn: (7.4 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 2.8 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, SB calls 9.2 BB

River: (31.4 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 24 BB, SB raises to 101.5 BB and is all-in, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB
SB: 105.4 BB
BB: 101.1 BB
Hero (UTG): 101 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 115.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9 K 5
Hero bets 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Turn: (10.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 7.6 BB, CO calls 7.6 BB

River: (25.7 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 18.6 BB, CO raises to 103 BB and is all-in, Hero?

Hey my man! I love to see you keep posting hands! Will take a look.
H1: any read? Reg or not. People on here will throw rocks at me. Might just fold turn sometimes. I would fold river if i could not find it on flop.

H2: reads again a bit important. To adapt freq. Std: call.

H3: as played snap muck that bit*h. Interested if you find some 3bet from there with the suited one. Other point to consider: do you sometime raise as X/R OOP with some strong top pair. Food for thoughts.

H4. Preflop sometime 3bet. Flop sometime raise sometime call. Turn almost always raise based on sizing. I think you can go bigger.
River. Bet/fold. I puke in my mouth swallow back it up. And click the fold.

Already 10NL? Cant wait for 25NL! Ez game.

Ty mate! If not mentioned every villain is random or fish

H2 he has 50bb stack not sure you noticed that

I sometimes x/raise tpgk otf yeah but usually against a cu/bu/sb with loose opening/cbet stats

Still haven't perfected my preflop game but usually I call borderline suited hands if villains have tight opening stats (not that useful if u only got 50 hands ofcourse), KQs is probably a 3bet from all positions not sure though gotta check.

Not sure if you missed h5 on purpose, not that I need you to comment on every hand but just to make sure I read your comment about the right hand

Yeah I only played 2 and 5NL for 10k hands, I'll definately play 50k+ hands at 10NL with a decent winrate before moving up

H2 oh no I did not My bad. Post some more I'll comment on the last one and new one after my session?

Let me check when I get home, probably have some hands of 2 days ago or just some smaller spots

H2. when shortstacker commit himself you probably have more experience playing tourney than me. haha But I lean on the tigher side so mb fold is better.

Yeah I just view this as a 50bb allin

Some more hands:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.6 BB
SB: 200.2 BB
Hero (BB): 139.5 BB
UTG: 102.2 BB
MP: 121.6 BB
CO: 93.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, MP calls 12.5 BB, fold

Flop: (33 BB, 2 players) 9 4 4
Hero bets 10.4 BB, MP calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (53.8 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 23 BB, MP raises to 96.2 BB and is all-in, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 107.9 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 181.3 BB
UTG: 115.7 BB
Hero (MP): 114.7 BB
CO: 157 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 6 T J
BB checks, Hero bets 2.8 BB, BB calls 2.8 BB

Turn: (11.1 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 4.8 BB, Hero calls 4.8 BB

River: (20.7 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 9.4 BB, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 112.1 BB
SB: 134.3 BB
BB: 159.8 BB
Hero (UTG): 102.7 BB
MP: 359.9 BB
CO: 261.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 6 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, BB calls 9 BB

Flop: (33 BB, 2 players) J 7 Q
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (33 BB, 2 players) 2
BB bets 11 BB, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101 BB
Hero (SB): 115.8 BB
BB: 75.7 BB
UTG: 118 BB
MP: 85 BB
CO: 141.7 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T 3 K
Hero bets 1.9 BB, BB calls 1.9 BB

Turn: (9.8 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 7.1 BB, BB raises to 14.2 BB, Hero?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 188 BB
SB: 146.4 BB
BB: 103.5 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 107.5 BB
CO: 94.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG raises to 3.4 BB, Hero raises to 10.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 100 BB and is all-in, Hero?

Had an okish day today, got it in good preflop a couple times which was a pleasant suprise, but in almost all big postflop pots my opponents seemed to be at the top of their range. Tried to go for 4k hands today but near the end I was pretty tilted because of this so I stopped playing



Will post some (or a lot) hands tomorrow so there isn't 20 uncommented hands.

Did also review a hand with Nana which definately helped me improve my postflop game, hand analysis while playing and bet sizing. Thanks so much!

Will comment in the hanging hands from above.

H1:i would not use as big of a sizing.
Flop mainly bet sometimes x/c rarely x/r.
As played i dont mind the bet turn. And fold

H2: nice size J10 boards are interesting as it hits flat from bb a lot. Could go bigger as exploitm as u block some of his raise.
Turn: i would sometime overbet this combo so your size is weak.
River. Sigh fold.

H3: bet small flop. Call turn now.

H4: mostly bet big, sometime x/raise. Rarely x/c.
No way i fold to the clickback. Probably fold river.

H5: ishh. Always AK? Might be some QQ? I see this more freq as AK. But tough one.

Ty man! He donks turn in h2 so it's not my sizing

Also h5, when I see people open shove or shove 100bb over 3bets it's AA pretty often (from what I've seen when clicking watch hand unfold) at the micros