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06-11-2024 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
The games on Global feel pretty safe to me, it's a very small ring-fenced pool and they've issued refunds recently. App games are inherently sketchy but I think it's hard for them to be more incompetent than most sites that accept US players, and with very small pools I think me, my agent, or security would realize fairly quick.

On Ignition we have proof of bots, colluders, and RTA but I haven't heard of anyone getting a refund so either they're keeping the money or they literally haven't banned anyone. I don't think I'll ever come back so no crushing 200z sadly.

It seems like players are doing a good job of self-policing especially at higher stakes so I'm not completely pessimistic, and we're already playing a game with a very significant barrier to winning (rake)
I've gotten refunds from Ignition in the past for collusion/cheating. Few hundred bucks. I don't know much about poker bots but I don't think they're that prevalent or that big of a problem. I would estimate 99%+ of the player base are real humans. Also I've never seen any obvious collusion like seesawing or anything like that but people could definitely be sharing hole cards I guess. And how good is RTA these days? Don't you need a supercomputer to solve outputs in real time? At least turns and rivers get more complicated and take lots of time I thought. Doesn't seem to be an issue, but that's just a guess.

What I do know about Ignition is that every other table has a 50% VPIPing whale in full ring games. And players who will mini3bet preflop from a 2.5bb open to 4bb total 3bet. All sorts of wildly bad stuff.

Good luck!
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06-11-2024 , 01:09 PM
+$14.6k, definitely the worst variance I've experienced in terms of all-in EV but I collected enough punts and nit money that I'm somehow up. Games have been good, at some point I was 8-tabling because they were all too fishy to leave

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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
nice! just realized this blog was yours, seems like you are on a really good trajectory to move up and start playing higher. i'd probably try and stick to one site but I 100% understand the struggle. In my blog I switched sites like 6-7 times over the period of 1.5 years, it helped keep me engaged and focused but definitely hurt my winrate . See you at the tables (maybe) and glgl!
tyty! Not quite sure how it would hurt WR just to have more tables to choose from

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Originally Posted by Chip Wynn
I've gotten refunds from Ignition in the past for collusion/cheating. Few hundred bucks. I don't know much about poker bots but I don't think they're that prevalent or that big of a problem. I would estimate 99%+ of the player base are real humans. Also I've never seen any obvious collusion like seesawing or anything like that but people could definitely be sharing hole cards I guess. And how good is RTA these days? Don't you need a supercomputer to solve outputs in real time? At least turns and rivers get more complicated and take lots of time I thought. Doesn't seem to be an issue, but that's just a guess.

What I do know about Ignition is that every other table has a 50% VPIPing whale in full ring games. And players who will mini3bet preflop from a 2.5bb open to 4bb total 3bet. All sorts of wildly bad stuff.

Good luck!
How recently? Seems like 1-2 years ago games were very good and they actually cared somewhat

RTA would be plugging spots into Wizard, presolved library on a second PC, or some custom more automatic software that exists. I agree not a big issue even though like 5% of my hands are against a guy who allegedly got caught using RTA


Didn't think call was winning but didn't want to fold

Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BBs, fold, BB calls 1.5 BBs

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T 9 7
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB Bets 4.1 BBs, Hero calls 4.1 BBs

River: (13.7 BB, 2 players) 8
BB Bets 11.5 BBs, Hero Raises to 93.4 BBs and is all-in


Felt like a spot some weaker regs will be close to range folding

Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 7

fold, HJ raises to 2.5 BBs, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BBs

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 3
Hero checks, HJ checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero Bets 13.75 BBs

Got both through, would be nice if it was Iggy and I could see what people fold
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06-11-2024 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
How recently? Seems like 1-2 years ago games were very good and they actually cared somewhat

RTA would be plugging spots into Wizard, presolved library on a second PC, or some custom more automatic software that exists. I agree not a big issue even though like 5% of my hands are against a guy who allegedly got caught using RTA
It was a long time ago like 5+ years ago. Seems like the games are pretty good currently. And yeah I'd be more worried about game integrity if I was playing heads-up, at full ring it's not much of a concern for me.
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06-12-2024 , 11:25 PM
+$15.3k

Forgot about this, should take like 20 hours so definitely doable
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06-13-2024 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip Wynn
It was a long time ago like 5+ years ago. Seems like the games are pretty good currently. And yeah I'd be more worried about game integrity if I was playing heads-up, at full ring it's not much of a concern for me.
RTA is less of a concern in 6m or FR, but collusion was also an issue on ACR, and potentially could happen / is happening on ignition
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06-13-2024 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit
RTA is less of a concern in 6m or FR, but collusion was also an issue on ACR, and potentially could happen / is happening on ignition
From my experience collusion is happening waaaaaaay more on Ignition.

I think it being anonymous has a lot to do with it. But just the feel of the games. Like is it normal to have cold 4bets twice an orbit constantly?

Or limp limp, iso, raise, jam? See this all the time on Ignition.

In ACR you basically never see that latter and cold 4s happen at normal frequencies. Yes there could be collusion happening, but it's happening at way lower rates and they are better about concealing the methods. Perhaps maybe just card sharing to help drive more precise decisions.
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06-18-2024 , 04:24 AM
There is for sure hand sharing and RTA on both of these sites. They were littered with them when I was playing last year.

I’d stay away from both of these and maybe away from online in general unless u have a good reason to trust a legit legal site
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06-18-2024 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
+$14.6k, definitely the worst variance I've experienced in terms of all-in EV but I collected enough punts and nit money that I'm somehow up. Games have been good, at some point I was 8-tabling because they were all too fishy to leave


tyty! Not quite sure how it would hurt WR just to have more tables to choose from


How recently? Seems like 1-2 years ago games were very good and they actually cared somewhat

RTA would be plugging spots into Wizard, presolved library on a second PC, or some custom more automatic software that exists. I agree not a big issue even though like 5% of my hands are against a guy who allegedly got caught using RTA


Didn't think call was winning but didn't want to fold

Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BBs, fold, BB calls 1.5 BBs

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T 9 7
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB Bets 4.1 BBs, Hero calls 4.1 BBs

River: (13.7 BB, 2 players) 8
BB Bets 11.5 BBs, Hero Raises to 93.4 BBs and is all-in


Felt like a spot some weaker regs will be close to range folding

Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 7

fold, HJ raises to 2.5 BBs, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BBs

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 3
Hero checks, HJ checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero Bets 13.75 BBs

Got both through, would be nice if it was Iggy and I could see what people fold




RTA is a huge issue and we have to stop telling people or acting like it’s not. It’s the worst thing to happen to poker and very very hard to recognize this type of cheating. It’s easier for us to see when 2 people might be colluding 1 hand than it is to tell if someone’s playing perfectly over thousands of hands
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06-18-2024 , 02:06 PM
+$16.5k, mostly 100nl since tables at 200 were mostly bad and I didn't think I was playing very well

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Originally Posted by cashtorg
RTA is a huge issue and we have to stop telling people or acting like it’s not. It’s the worst thing to happen to poker and very very hard to recognize this type of cheating. It’s easier for us to see when 2 people might be colluding 1 hand than it is to tell if someone’s playing perfectly over thousands of hands
Imo if you can't spot several bad plays within 1k hands you're either not paying attention or a fish
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06-18-2024 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
+$16.5k, mostly 100nl since tables at 200 were mostly bad and I didn't think I was playing very well


Imo if you can't spot several bad plays within 1k hands you're either not paying attention or a fish

When card sharing is involved things might look like bad plays
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06-27-2024 , 04:31 PM
+$17.8k, games were great yesterday so I played for like 6 hours

Study volume has been really bad this month, if anyone is playing similar stakes and wants to do some GTOW studying my discord is cornuts (or PM here)


BTN vs BB srp, I have JT no and go for the range XR. They fold with I'm guessing a hand that should never have c-bet
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06-28-2024 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
+$14.6k, definitely the worst variance I've experienced in terms of all-in EV but I collected enough punts and nit money that I'm somehow up. Games have been good, at some point I was 8-tabling because they were all too fishy to leave


tyty! Not quite sure how it would hurt WR just to have more tables to choose from


How recently? Seems like 1-2 years ago games were very good and they actually cared somewhat

RTA would be plugging spots into Wizard, presolved library on a second PC, or some custom more automatic software that exists. I agree not a big issue even though like 5% of my hands are against a guy who allegedly got caught using RTA


Didn't think call was winning but didn't want to fold

Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BBs, fold, BB calls 1.5 BBs

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T 9 7
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB Bets 4.1 BBs, Hero calls 4.1 BBs

River: (13.7 BB, 2 players) 8
BB Bets 11.5 BBs, Hero Raises to 93.4 BBs and is all-in


Felt like a spot some weaker regs will be close to range folding

Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 7

fold, HJ raises to 2.5 BBs, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BBs

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 3
Hero checks, HJ checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero Bets 13.75 BBs

Got both through, would be nice if it was Iggy and I could see what people fold
Sorry if this is random just wanted to know for my microstake ass what's the reasoning to ob turn in h2? just curious seems cool kekw
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06-28-2024 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sattitg
Sorry if this is random just wanted to know for my microstake ass what's the reasoning to ob turn in h2? just curious seems cool kekw
In a lot of spots you can overbet a ton of hands when pfr xb flop. I used to overbet pretty much every unpaired hand in this spot some years ago and printed money against weaker regs. Not something I would do blindly these days but I'm sure there's regs who it's not a bad idea to do that against.
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06-28-2024 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sattitg
Sorry if this is random just wanted to know for my microstake ass what's the reasoning to ob turn in h2? just curious seems cool kekw
Mostly just having way more trips+. Problem with the size is you isolate yourself against a strong river range, but going smaller with A7 specifically seemed pretty bad
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06-30-2024 , 09:35 PM
June +$5700

20k hands on Global +$5k. Probably similar volume at 100 and 200nl

Lifetime graph for global


Rest on Iggy maybe a few k hands
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06-30-2024 , 10:16 PM
200nl, villain is a smart guy. Luckily I realized my turn call is braindead and I'm below bottom of range
Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.3 BBs, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.3 BBs

Flop: (5.1 BB, 2 players) Q J 8
Hero checks, CO Bets 3.8 BBs, Hero calls 3.8 BBs

Turn: (12.7 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO Bets 9.5 BBs, Hero calls 9.5 BBs

River: (31.7 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero Bets 40.5 BBs, CO folds


Villain holds 2k
Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T

fold, HJ raises to 2.25 BBs, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.25 BBs

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) Q 7 5
Hero checks, HJ Bets 1.75 BBs, Hero Raises to 5.9 BBs, HJ calls 4.15 BBs

Turn: (16.8 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero Bets 20.8 BBs, HJ calls 20.8 BBs

River: (58.4 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero Bets 19.6 BBs, HJ folds
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07-03-2024 , 04:10 PM
+$21k

Got the AI solve tier for wizard today. Cool stuff but when I try to use dynamic it sometimes picks really dumb sizes
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07-03-2024 , 04:19 PM
you think turn delayed cbet of 25 and 50% is dumb?
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07-03-2024 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
you think turn delayed cbet of 25 and 50% is dumb?
this is what it does if I give it fixed sizes


25/50 is losing .9% EV (from start of turn) in Pio compared to allowing many sizes
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07-03-2024 , 05:34 PM
How does EV change in the AI solver if you force it to use something like 1x/2x on the turn instead of 0.25x/0.5x?
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07-03-2024 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Zamadhi
How does EV change in the AI solver if you force it to use something like 1x/2x on the turn instead of 0.25x/0.5x?
25/50: 2.63
100/200: 2.65
150: 2.65
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07-03-2024 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
this is what it does if I give it fixed sizes


25/50 is losing .9% EV (from start of turn) in Pio compared to allowing many sizes
thats weird I thought dynamic sizings usually gave you what is deemed the highest EV sizes
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07-04-2024 , 11:13 PM
+$23.8k, I'm beginning to think I could be running well

Games were a bit dead but very soft so I was playing mostly 500 at some point

Found Marinelli's old blog and read through it. Some gems in here for sure: https://web.archive.org/web/20221202...-hsnl-journal/
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07-05-2024 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
+$23.8k, I'm beginning to think I could be running well



Games were a bit dead but very soft so I was playing mostly 500 at some point



Found Marinelli's old blog and read through it. Some gems in here for sure: https://web.archive.org/web/20221202...-hsnl-journal/
Thanks for linking this. I needed to read it again.
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07-13-2024 , 11:02 AM
+$26.4k. Won a $2k pot and definitely ran over EV

I'll probably end up getting back in the app game streets. Other than that there's 400nl on ACR, but then for half the regs I'm playing against one pot is the average monthly salary where they live. Guess I'll have to just get good (for an American at least)

Or battle the bots on Bonition


4bp BTN vs CO, if I make CO range bet we basically never fold and floating AdTd is winning 1.5bb
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